So... do you want to see more exploits? Anyway, all support would be massivly apprechiated: ko-fi.com/lemoncake101 Come chat in my discord: discord.gg/bSs2e9YsFv
A few things you haven't mentioned: -The trading cities will just use your own ideas as their own. So if you pick Exploration/Expansion (you dont need to fill out the ideas, just pick the groups), they'll start with Explo/Expansion -If you don't want to spend lots of Stab on declaring on your trade cities, just use 50 reform progress to change to another reform that doesn't have trade leagues. Your trade cities will automaticallly get independence.
9:26 You cant stay shogun and move your capital to the new world. Also for anyone interested in this keep in mind that there is a limit for 100 cleint states and 75 trade cities ( or vice versa?) meaning you wont be able to create more than them
Doing this with byz might be interesting. They get the ability to create client states quite early, and their pronoia system results in them not taking up relation slots
One small thing that wasn't mentioned: you can't create infinite client states, you can only create a total of 100 over the course of the game. That should be more than enough even if doing this exploit but it might impact someone who likes to use a lot of client states in their games
If you have the thalassocracy reform you can make client states and trade cities into trade protectorates which will not take up a diplo relation slot and will give you global trade power and goods produced modifier, I was able to bully my friend by doing this strat as venice
You can also do this by having a vassal, grsnting them the province, then declaring war on them and taking all the provinces except that one so they auto colonise. Used to do that a lot under the pre Leviathan system
I haven’t tested this but possibly found something. Open Livonian order form Latagia, take exploration and admin ideas. Colonize Canada and move that one monument to capital for promote culture cost. Now at 70% promote culture cost form Austria and take the reform for another 33% -100% promote culture cost. Then form Prussia and conquer Silesia for mission. Reward is to loose 3 aggressive expansion flat every time you promote culture. It’s essentially free AE if it works. I’m gonna try it my next game
I'm literally in the middle of a Ryukyu Three Mountains where I'm exploiting the client states from Mercenary and Influence by becoming the Shogun. This is great
The Burgundy events only inherits subjects whose capitals are either Dutch, Flemish, in the French group, or members of the HRE. So that would only work with new world subjects.
@@LemonCake101 there are 2 top Gove types for it imperial Austrian momarchy and Roman imperial senate. There are some Russian gov reforms, several missions too. I think you could technically reduce cost till 80% permanent and 40% time permanent
You could also play as Byz, this removes a few issues with the strategy: - you can create client states without the idea group choice (you just need a specific t2 gov reform, this also works by just culture shifting to Greek) - you can turn your client states into pronoia, which don't take diplo slots and can be annexed for free (though it does take a while to do so)
You dont have to stay on the menu the whole time. Clicking on the colony last day and then waiting one day will give you the menu. The change from colonist coming to colony started is what triggers the bugged menu. Also you could just release the client states as ashikaga and then revassalize 5 years later
@LemonCake101 you could divide it up into monarchy reforms, tribal reforms, theocracy reforms, and republic reforms. Or exclude tag unique reforms like ottoman government etc
You should be able to do that, any vassal of yours with high enough relation will be ok with being an eyalet. In my otto games I diplo vassal africans then turn them into eyalets for the fun of it.
I mean it's a bit of juggling but if you do it while stacking monarch power from tributary state or just grab the gov reform that gives +1 monarch point from tributaries it's a monarch point for every province :)
its not viable imo. you create a client state and colonize a province instatnly but that province is of no use to you and you have to wait the standard 10 years to diplo annex them back. stacking serttler increase and chance modifiers still seem a better idea, or developing an economy strong enough to tank the maintainance of 8 colonies with just 2 colonists. one of the best way to expand quick is just maintain colonies without colonists. if you have the cha ching for that though
@@LemonCake101 oh u are cheater.. didn’t even mind that such a scum is possible besides youtube players. totally worth to unsubscribe now and switch to playmaker’s channel. no doubt he is the honest one.
@@LemonCake101is there a version of this exploit that doesnt use console commands? Because if not you might as well just console command your way into getting the provinces?
I think you should show exploits openly more often. They are a lot of fun and the only 2 reasons not to talk about them arent really valid. A) They actively hurt achievements as a skill measure -> Invalid because you can just cheat any achievement in steam AND can cheat in ironman with no complexion at all. B) For multiplayer. There you obviously would ban these exploits anyway and player could once again just cheat way more subtle than having a exploit. Talking about it will also make it harder for people to do exploits in multiplayer games. Also for the vast vast majority EU4 is essentially a Singleplayer game
No you can't get whole north america by 1500. First of all 3 Idea groups, second of all there is 100 client state per game limit and that's mean you can do it "only" at 100 provinces. I don't "hate" this video but you didn't talked about this limit and described impossible scenario.
I mean that is true, you basically have to abuse trade posts and a lot of truce breaks for it in practice, but for sure it was hyperbole in the 'technically possible assuming infinite stabhit admin and dip points'.
@@LemonCake101 i think almost everyone knows how diplo/admin point would burn doing this but my main point is 100 client state limit. I think it isn't commonly known that there is a limit on them and they can be abuse only 100 times while north America has more than 100 provinces to colonize
@@arekzawistowski2609 yes, but then you hit natives that can be conquered and so on: I mean yeah as I said right on the onset of the video, I decided to showcase this exploit because it really wasn't that powerful. But yeah your point of not technically being able to use it for all of NA stands somewhat: like yeah anyone actually insane to pull that off wouldn't be bothering to do so.
@@LorenzSinclair I already used the loading screens like 5 times over, so I am kinda out of art really: so I go for the related images from the google images
So... do you want to see more exploits?
Anyway, all support would be massivly apprechiated: ko-fi.com/lemoncake101
Come chat in my discord: discord.gg/bSs2e9YsFv
Better formulate that Madagascar world conquest strategy.
Yes we want.
The Portugese hate this one small trick!
Poor Portugal, falling behind
😢 Pope said all land is ours or Castille's !
remain calm
all province tierlist endures
lemon cake will suffer
my fingers will also suffer typing this over and over
There is much to be done
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@@LemonCake101lmao you're playing with fire
😂😂😂😂
@@LemonCake101if only I could spare the coin 🤣
@@LemonCake101I have my immediate budgeting goal. 1000 ducats is a lot, but not impossible
A few things you haven't mentioned:
-The trading cities will just use your own ideas as their own. So if you pick Exploration/Expansion (you dont need to fill out the ideas, just pick the groups), they'll start with Explo/Expansion
-If you don't want to spend lots of Stab on declaring on your trade cities, just use 50 reform progress to change to another reform that doesn't have trade leagues. Your trade cities will automaticallly get independence.
Indeed: again these things can be expanded for sure
hmm, it might work with the Pronoia subjects to inherit it on ruler death without using diplo relations
Could be interesting for sure
Byz can also get a special gov reform that lets it create client states early
Yeah but they can only have so many Pronoias active I thought? Granted they can get a lot more Pronoiar slots throughout a run
Ottoman eyalets would also probably work
my first thought when the diplo slot issue was raised
9:26 You cant stay shogun and move your capital to the new world.
Also for anyone interested in this keep in mind that there is a limit for 100 cleint states and 75 trade cities ( or vice versa?) meaning you wont be able to create more than them
Yup
I wonder what's the speedrun for colonising all uncolonized provinces is, could you actually do it fast enough to do it all before 1500?
I mean losing dip each month won't actually be an issue here
Could be an interesting run for sure
Doing this with byz might be interesting. They get the ability to create client states quite early, and their pronoia system results in them not taking up relation slots
Yeah, many tags have options in this regard for sure.
Wow thats powerful
One small thing that wasn't mentioned: you can't create infinite client states, you can only create a total of 100 over the course of the game. That should be more than enough even if doing this exploit but it might impact someone who likes to use a lot of client states in their games
^ yes, that is fair, and honestly I should have mentioned that in the video. The limit is technically 99 too but yeah not normally an issue.
@@LemonCake101you seem to have forgotten the client state K00, good sir
If you have the thalassocracy reform you can make client states and trade cities into trade protectorates which will not take up a diplo relation slot and will give you global trade power and goods produced modifier, I was able to bully my friend by doing this strat as venice
Yup, that is an option, enjoy :)
You can also do this by having a vassal, grsnting them the province, then declaring war on them and taking all the provinces except that one so they auto colonise. Used to do that a lot under the pre Leviathan system
instant colonization fan vs siberian frontier enjoyer
Make trade cities, convert them to trade protectorate, repeat this for every province and enjoy million ducat income
Yup, very balanced, thank you Paradox.
Thank you. I saw. The trade city suggestion and immediately thought of that exploit.
Does take a little longer, though.
I haven’t tested this but possibly found something. Open Livonian order form Latagia, take exploration and admin ideas. Colonize Canada and move that one monument to capital for promote culture cost. Now at 70% promote culture cost form Austria and take the reform for another 33% -100% promote culture cost. Then form Prussia and conquer Silesia for mission. Reward is to loose 3 aggressive expansion flat every time you promote culture. It’s essentially free AE if it works. I’m gonna try it my next game
Wait that's amazing, I need to take a look.
@@LemonCake101 spending hours on the wiki is honestly so draining haha. Please let me know if it works cause easy WC if so
I'm literally in the middle of a Ryukyu Three Mountains where I'm exploiting the client states from Mercenary and Influence by becoming the Shogun. This is great
no wonder lemon cake uses exploits with bad luck like that commet sighting
use the burgundy event to insta inherit all your vassals?
true, with some setup...
The Burgundy events only inherits subjects whose capitals are either Dutch, Flemish, in the French group, or members of the HRE. So that would only work with new world subjects.
Love your exploits/tricks videos! Keep it up.
Did you ever do culture conversion time-cost video?
Could be an interesting one to look at, but not sure if there are enough things for it.
@@LemonCake101 there are 2 top Gove types for it imperial Austrian momarchy and Roman imperial senate. There are some Russian gov reforms, several missions too. I think you could technically reduce cost till 80% permanent and 40% time permanent
Now this as Ottomans with eyalets would be infinitely more broken
You could also play as Byz, this removes a few issues with the strategy:
- you can create client states without the idea group choice (you just need a specific t2 gov reform, this also works by just culture shifting to Greek)
- you can turn your client states into pronoia, which don't take diplo slots and can be annexed for free (though it does take a while to do so)
Another great video. Keep up the content!
Thanks!
spain has liked your video
Spain prefers to do it by the sword I find
@@LemonCake101 Actually with muskets and diplomacy
You dont have to stay on the menu the whole time. Clicking on the colony last day and then waiting one day will give you the menu. The change from colonist coming to colony started is what triggers the bugged menu. Also you could just release the client states as ashikaga and then revassalize 5 years later
Yes, clicking last day works too to be clear, for sure.
How many photos of buff men have you saved for all your thumbnails up until now
The folder in my PC is literally titled 'Topless Men' in fairness
God i love colonizing!
Can you do a gov reforms tier list?
I mean... there's a lot of them?
@LemonCake101 you could divide it up into monarchy reforms, tribal reforms, theocracy reforms, and republic reforms. Or exclude tag unique reforms like ottoman government etc
@@ziggytheassassin5835yes he could rank each tier of generic one (still a lot, but manageable)
Would this Work in Byzantine Vassal Type? I gonna try smth
Would becoming Shogun and creating client states bypass the dip relations limit, or are client states not daiymos?
client states aren't daimyos sorry :(
Could this be used by Otto’s for infinite eyelets
No clue actually, never played new Ottos :P
@@LemonCake101liar th-cam.com/users/liverrCNPaMVR_I?si=z85j85w4n3XDUK4V
You should be able to do that, any vassal of yours with high enough relation will be ok with being an eyalet. In my otto games I diplo vassal africans then turn them into eyalets for the fun of it.
@@Brutian96 fair enough, consider me wrong here
There are some mission trees, which allow another golden age. How many can you get in total?
Could be something cool to look into, but a lot are endtags/require you to start as them (Ottos/Finland)
it's called the fast_colonize console command
Guess this would be good as Byzantium or Ottos with Pronoia and Eyalets.
You can do multiple trade cities in same node as long as you can tributary them
Yup, but you have to do some more juggling basically hence why I mentioned it as something to be careful with
I mean it's a bit of juggling but if you do it while stacking monarch power from tributary state or just grab the gov reform that gives +1 monarch point from tributaries it's a monarch point for every province :)
I'm afraid to imagine what you will do in eu5
so you can basically preserve cultures which would die out 100%
Not really? This still follows normal colonization culture conversion rules.
Evilmaxxing
can you create daimio vassals with client states?
nope :(
If you kick them from the trade league, can you create a new trading city?
Yes
its not viable imo. you create a client state and colonize a province instatnly but that province is of no use to you and you have to wait the standard 10 years to diplo annex them back. stacking serttler increase and chance modifiers still seem a better idea, or developing an economy strong enough to tank the maintainance of 8 colonies with just 2 colonists. one of the best way to expand quick is just maintain colonies without colonists. if you have the cha ching for that though
Yeah, I mean this is what I mean by practical limitations, and why I was comfortable sharing it.
Can one turn client states into eyelets? Asking for a friend....
I don't believe so :(
blue Portugal 😔
This is just the same video of the student but little worde
Wait did he do a video on this topic?
how did u take exploration ideas in 1444? it’s definitely impossible
console command demonstration
@@LemonCake101 oh u are cheater.. didn’t even mind that such a scum is possible besides youtube players. totally worth to unsubscribe now and switch to playmaker’s channel. no doubt he is the honest one.
@@LemonCake101is there a version of this exploit that doesnt use console commands?
Because if not you might as well just console command your way into getting the provinces?
@@Rynewulf you don't need console commands for the exploit, I only used the console to grab a colonist in 1444.
I think you should show exploits openly more often. They are a lot of fun and the only 2 reasons not to talk about them arent really valid.
A) They actively hurt achievements as a skill measure -> Invalid because you can just cheat any achievement in steam AND can cheat in ironman with no complexion at all.
B) For multiplayer. There you obviously would ban these exploits anyway and player could once again just cheat way more subtle than having a exploit. Talking about it will also make it harder for people to do exploits in multiplayer games.
Also for the vast vast majority EU4 is essentially a Singleplayer game
I mean I avoid talking about exploits because I think they take away from the nature of the game especially the more... powerful ones.
No you can't get whole north america by 1500. First of all 3 Idea groups, second of all there is 100 client state per game limit and that's mean you can do it "only" at 100 provinces. I don't "hate" this video but you didn't talked about this limit and described impossible scenario.
I mean that is true, you basically have to abuse trade posts and a lot of truce breaks for it in practice, but for sure it was hyperbole in the 'technically possible assuming infinite stabhit admin and dip points'.
@@LemonCake101 i think almost everyone knows how diplo/admin point would burn doing this but my main point is 100 client state limit. I think it isn't commonly known that there is a limit on them and they can be abuse only 100 times while north America has more than 100 provinces to colonize
@@arekzawistowski2609 yes, but then you hit natives that can be conquered and so on: I mean yeah as I said right on the onset of the video, I decided to showcase this exploit because it really wasn't that powerful. But yeah your point of not technically being able to use it for all of NA stands somewhat: like yeah anyone actually insane to pull that off wouldn't be bothering to do so.
Japan ;)
Nice
maaaayyyybe you should turn off some of those notifications off lol
Especially pointless ones like country gained a cardinal or you gained a CB
Oh I should, but then how could I complain?
This just doesn’t ever seem useful enough to justify losing 3 idea groups tbh
If you want to block pop ups write msg on console 1:35
I didn't want to block them I wanted to complain :P
AI generated background 💀💀💀
I literally go on google and nick a picture from google images I will be honest :P
5 mins 89 veiws yiu fell up
Something something I am on the grind?
brah the ai generated background
I literally go on google images and google these I will be honest, I can promise you I did not generate it myself :P
hi. drunk. summary?
Hold province open when colonize and press funny button for free land
@@LemonCake101 i didnt actually expect you to reply lmao -- ill come back tomorrow sober nd check it out
@@uvbe nw enjoy I do still read all the comments just struggle to find time to answer all of them
Nerd
ai art background :(
I just used google images man I can't draw
@@LemonCake101 should use eu4 images! or related drawings from the era
@@LorenzSinclair I already used the loading screens like 5 times over, so I am kinda out of art really: so I go for the related images from the google images
@@LemonCake101 unfortunate
@@LorenzSinclair yeah again: I am just nicking stuff from google images, if its AI art, well its getting stolen too
I wanted to unsubscribe after seeing you change time speed with the mouse.
Honestly, I am really bad at using hotkeys