What Happened to Rudolf Hess's Plane?
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The strange story of Rudolf Hess arriving in Scotland in 1941 remains unresolved even today. But what happened to his plane and the Luftwaffe uniform and flight suit that he was wearing when he was captured? The plane still (partially) exists and his uniform is missing, stolen shortly before his death at the age of 93 in Spandau Prison, Berlin.
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There is a part of the plane at IWM North Salford Quays
Actually its $11.99 for mothers day only!
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Last year, I moved to Surrey, not far from Mytchett, where Hess was initially held for questioning. I've read somewhere that there was allegedly a gunfight there between his guards and some Free Polish soldiers. Do you have any information about this? It might be a good subject for one of your war stories.
As a wee boy, any time we were driving down that way for a family outting, my dad would always point out the area where Hess's plane crashed. As a youngster it was quite exciting to think this part of history had occured so close to home and made me want to read more about it.
Was it at Eaglesham? I never figured out exactly where, but that was my understanding. Off the old moor road?
@@tonykeast9966 yes, near Eaglesham
I had the same experience, "This is where JFK was shot"
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If Hess had landed closer to Glasgow his plane would have been found without a radio or tyres.
Are you insinuating that Glasgow has a high crime rate? 🤔
@@clavichord Glaswegians are just very eager to recycle.
😂😂... And he'd have been discovered having a sneaky one in some Clydeside dive... 😂😂🏴👍
@@garygrandy9443 Yip... We even recycle new stuff... 😂😂
Hmmmm. I don't imagine that Hess would have been predisposed in any particular fashion as to the disposition of his personal property. In other words, I wonder if Hess might not have had a desire for some of his personal property to be destroyed as he must have known that end for him was near and the last British commandant of the prison seemed to take some liberties with destroying his property shortly before his death. I know, speculation but something doesn't sound right towards the end there. We may never know. A memoir - if he has one or was allowed to pen one - would be informative. Another thought-provoking installment, thank you.
Thanks Mark! My great grandfather was one of the men that captured Hess, he’s in the photograph at the very start of the video, thank you for giving a better idea of my great grandfathers story :)
We’re at dude I’d like to take a peek at that.
This video said nothing about what happened. The capturing and imprissoning is one of the greatest crimes from ww2. Thank your great grandfather for that. Werwolf knows
We were cousins he is also my great grand father
Your great grandfather was a brainwashed self hating white weather he knew it or not.WFP
And when father did his National Service (late 40s) his battalion was stationed at Spandau (I believe the barracks was next to the prison) but mention Berlin and you'd get a 2hr story about "when I guarded Hess..." 🙂
Hi Mark, The plane crashed in, what was at that time my grandfathers field at Bonnyton Farm which was close to Floors Farm. My dad, then a young boy was there when some of the photographs you show were taken. He often told me he remembered the low loader lorry they brought in to remove the plane getting stuck in the field. My dad always told me that Hess mistook Eaglesham House, a large country estate house which was near by, for the Duke of Hamiltons residence. We used to have a shoe box full of pieces from the plane found when the field was ploughed but it's been lost at some point.
My Grandpa was the police Sargent who guarded the plane on the farm. And was a well know figure in the area, being over six foot tall and a highlander.
I’m currently in the process of getting rid of a bunch of my stepdads stuff. He passed suddenly due to a heart attack 8 years ago. So much stuff and a lot of military stuff that I have no idea of it’s significance to him. I can’t ask him. To me it’s just stuff. I’m not trashing, but moving it along to others but with no provenance. Sadly a shoebox full of metal scraps will eventually become just that.
@@dmcgee3 are there any local historical society or museums you could donate it too.
My Grans uncle was the superintendent of mearnskirk TB hospital at the time of the crash. When we cleared out my aunts house after her death we found a small part scratched with the date of the crash. We also found a photo of some soldiers posing next to ahut with a swastika painted tail plane nailed to the gable end of a wooden hut.
I HIGHLY doubt it. Sorry, fam…
That Saturday, as an 8 year old I was still outside playing on my roller skates at our home in the Glasgow suburb of Croftfoot. It was still very light at 11 pm as we enjoyed double summer time. I heard the sound of a German plane which we all knew by the recognisable drone of its engines. I was able to distinguish it as a twin engined messerschmitt and followed its flight until it disappeared behind the Cathkin Brae hills. We later learned the story and how Hess had been taken to the Busby Scout hall and subsequently to The Tower of London.
Thanks for that Euan... 👍🏴
A witness to history
your full of BS. Are you that desperate for attention? No one believes you.
Rubbish...that's the spin put out...by all accounts,Hess never left Scotland,via a cell in Paisley,Buchanan Castle, then in a large house up north,which i'm still researching(he definitely was in Sutherland in 1942 before his death near Dunbeath,Caithness).
Rudolph Hess is one of the true great mysteries of Would War 2. Mark your historical videos about that time period are simply outstanding!
indeed. My theory is that this was just an attempt by Hess to save his own life rather than any real attemt at a negotiation
@@phililpb What makes you say that?
He's "mission" was never acknowledged by Hitler. He probably believed he could make somekind of a peace deal or allience with Britain. He's mental health has been put to a question.
@@phililpb Not sure I buy that. The likelihood I think is that he was sent on a pre-agreed mission by Hitler with the British government to negotiate a peace deal with Britain. This will never be admitted to, and any archive records will have been distroyed.
@@clavichord He did say it was his theory.
Which does not make sense as the Germans were on the up at that stage. I could understand if the event took place in 43,44 or 45.
I'd heard a story that Hess' plane hade been taken to Carluke. The maintenance hanger still belonged to the MOD until the late 70's I believe. After it was sold off, it was a workshop for a glazers for a while. Sadly now demolished.
That is correct. The site of the hanger is now a football pitch.
The hanger had huge naval anchors in it in the late 70s - early 80s. Had a wee look in once after someone tried to berak in. I worked out of the local police office at the time.
wasn't the T2 hangar set on fire by vandals? going by the photos I've seen wasn't the exterior was covered in mirrors/glass? looked butt ugly.....
Yeah, I lived in Carluke for a short time and was told a few local tales/rumours by an older fella that drank in The Wee Thackit. Can't remember his name, he was a retired teacher.
@@johnkane8490naval anchors?
Another brilliant production, Dr. Felton. I appreciate how you document what would seem to many unimportant side notes of history, but are quite intriguing nonetheless. Thank you again for this video!
A bit false though. I have true pieces of Hess's plane for sale. Also Hitler Shoehorns, hitler office desk novelty mini pool, hitler suspenders & cumberbunds. Boxes of them. Get one for all friends and family. Same with pieces of the true cross. Any size / colour you want. Teak, pine, oak etc. Current special on Elvis sweat. Buy 1 vial, get 1 free.
I will never understand why he's was imprisoned for life. He definitely had some info that couldn't be released
It’s because of his eye brows
SC: The Soviets refused to agree to his release. One probable reason is that maintaining the prison gave the KGB access to West German territory.
Good point and how well did he fly that plane and arrive so close to his destination.
A cruel and spiteful sentence, he spent most of the war as a prisoner.
Maybe if he offered peace and the arrest of AH the government might want to keep that a secret to conceal the fact there was another option than D-Day and all the associated casualties.
Dr Feltons productions should be a staple in all schools , I've learnt so much from watching your videos , my eldest is doing world war 2 in history in school and I always get him to watch your videos , so as a dad I say thank you for the help your are giving my eldest in school.
to your first point - these would be great in a school setting!
The schools don't want anyone to know the truth. They also want us to forget all of history that doesn't fit their narrative.
No space in the school diary,between the groomers doing drag shows and filling their heads with 'Climate Change' B/S! Indoctrination these days,not education!
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My father was a US paratrooper during Market-Garden so I have a lifelong interest in WWII historical research. Every episode from Dr. Felton has me on the edge of my seat.
I'm much the same but my family covers 3 continents and two oceans with their involvement in WW2 and my uncle's brothers in law all had Iron Crosses. The one time they were all together was fascinating.
@@vinnyganzano1930 All three of my father's sons became US paratroopers. We were proud to follow in his footsteps.
Liar.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray What?
@@j3dwin You cower behind an anonymous name. You lie about your real name. Anyone who had such an illustrious relation would be proud enough to use their real name.
Hess' story is so interesting, That's for the continous videos Dr. Felton, Your work is appreciated
Hello Dr. Felton. Another little known story of WW2 that not many people know about that you have brought to life. Thank you and have a great day!
It is beautiful when one’s childhood was mostly about reading books of these historical Incidents and watching old documentaries, it brings some nostalgic feelings.
Agreed. Those that stole and or destroyed the Hess personal effects stole from history. From you and me and future generations. Never white-wash or rewrite history or mistakes will be repeated.
@@george6252 so true so true.... as the saying goes, history repeats itself‼️®™️
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I’m sure Mark can read my mind, I was going to ask him to do an episode on Hess. He was imprisoned close to me in South Wales. Locals seem to think he was treated very well and could be seen being driven around the country lanes, included at least one day out to a local horse race.
You mean during the war??
@@wolfmauler . Yep, he spent most of 1942-45 in Wales.
@@bordersw1239 don't take it personally, but I find this impossible to believe.
@@duartesimoes508 . Google Rudolph Hess, Abergavenny.
@@duartesimoes508 Many rumours about his supposed links to important people, and the embarrassment that could have come out if he was released. Which is why he was a one man prison deal.
Hess' mission, imprisonment and death seem destined to be forever shrouded in mystery.
Indeed one of the dirtiest British secret to be covered up forever
You'll find that the USA lied and deceived the Germans, then killed them.. Nothing honorable at all
I always wondered what Hess knew that caused the allies to hide him away like they did. No other prisoners were treated like that.
He had dirt on the Duke of Windsor and Mrs Simpson.
No other prisoners were deputy Furher !
The Germans wanted peace with Britain but they can't admit that can they when the war cost us so much. Destroyed our empire killed millions and now the ultra Liberal policies of globalism essentially destroying England.
Simple spite and vindictiveness. They were going to have their pound of flesh, and revenge was on the menu. His treatment was a disgrace.
he was sent on a peace mission and later killed in prison. Killed because if he had been released, he would have had the opportunity to tell the truth and that was prevented. He was a man of honour, risked his life to prevent the murder of the German people and sacrificed himself for a just cause.
I was a carer in Scotland for over 28 years and I looked after one of the soldiers who was there the day he was caught. I remember him telling me the plane was split new as it still had its brown greased paper on the guns! I traced the exact spot where the plane crashed and its still accessible but now part of the motorway but there is part still accessible from the roundabout. I am going in the spring here is Scotland to film it and post up on my channel. great clip thanks for uploading.
After he was taken into custody, initially to the hall at the top of Church Rd in Busby, maybe comandered for the duration, then to Giffnock Police Station, some say the Scout Halls in Giffnock but a bit unlikely with the Police Station a only few streets away, with secure cells, then onto Maryhill Barracks, all of which are still there apart from the barracks. Only the outer wall survives.
I’ve always thought it strange the Rudolph Hess was locked up life, yet others who went on to be found guilty of many other things got off considerably lightly.
I was thinking the same...Seems like they would have accepted this as a surrender so early in the war and given a lighter sentence...Would like to know the true reason he did this act...
I was also wondering the same thing about Joachim Von Ribbentrof, I mean the guy was a diplomat, and he was sentenced to death ? I don't understand, and I fail to make the connection between these harsh sentences, and justice. This brings me to another point, which is the very term "war criminal", because it is a blatant oxymoron, with hypocrisy stitched right into the definition, as all war is one giant murder, legitimized, sanctioned, propagated, directed, promoted, and prosecuted by all governments, that promotes the war to it's people through the lenses of fear, hate, and force. Warfare is an entirely criminal, and savage enterprise, at it's core.
Yes...that sentence was very harsh. Hess seemed like a nice guy and was very handsome, too. Maybe he WAS on a "noble" peace mission. Otherwise, WHY would he have risked his life like that? Very sad story.
As an engineer I have to say I admire the quality and precision in that engine
Dutch qualitat 😉
I saw the fuselage when it was on display at the Imperial War Museum in London. That item and Lawrence of Arabia’s motorcycle that he was riding at the time of his death were amazing things to see.
Another brilliant video! I've personally always felt rather sorry for Hess.... He took it upon himself to try to end a war between two nations, against the will of his commander in chief, but ended up being punished for it anyway.... even as people who had done much worse things during the war were aquitted.
Trust me.. there were forces at work that didn't want peace. Remember it was the British that declared war on Germany. I'm often surprised at how many people think it was the other way round!. All we managed to achieve was endless decades of Eastern Europe held captive behind the iron curtain. As for Poland (the reason for the war) that too ended up under the red jackboot. The Soviet Union prevailed all over Europe. You're still seeing it today in the Ukraine. Your comment is spot on. All the best.
@@292Nigel Oh i know, don't worry... I was just always sad that they kept the man imprisoned for over four decades....until his death! You'd get less time for murdering a child today....
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Very true. There was an element of spite and vindictiveness in his punishment. They had a figure head in their grasp, and they were determined to have their 'pound of flesh'. Revenge was on the menu!! I felt very sorry for him. He didn't deserve the outrageous treatment he was given. His crime was naivety, and being on the loosing side.
@@292Nigel nothing i can disagree with there!
@@292Nigel Why would we trust you? You are just another commentator on a TH-cam video. You do know that Britain and France had a Pact with Poland regarding the "eventuality" of their invasion by the Germans. Maybe you would prefer living under the Nazis?
Best history channel PERIOD !
I've had a piece of this history in my hand....my friend's grandfather had in his possession a section of the aircraft, a flat light, aluminium type metal alloy scrap about the size of your hand. Someone had written on it "He who Hessitates is lost". A profound observation given the probable soul searching Hess did prior to making the risky decision to flee (if it was indeed him). I didn't know they had an engine part at East Fortune. Think I'll take a trip over and see it. Great story Mark and interesting to hear more about the fate of his plane and possessions.
Thats so cool.. also it's a really interesting quote
Me too! And I still have it. It's not a huge piece, but remarkable to think of all it went through. It came into my possession as a young boy - at the time I thought that Hess's detention was a gross injustice. Now, much older, I realise that Hess was complicit in Hitler's murder and aggression, however I still feel the sentence was massively unjust.
Aye go to East Fortune anyway, great day out...👍🏴
Everyone’s grandfathers were around at the time. Amazing! I’m the only person here that had a GREAT grandfather in the war. Y’all are some old ass folks.
@@LazyLizzy706 2 Grandsons of the 10th(Tenth) US President,President Tyler were still alive until a year past March(2021)...let that sink in,their Grandfather was born when the USA was only FOURTEEN(14) years old,1790!!!!
Only one remains alive today!
There's a section of the plane at The Imperial War Museum North on Salford, Greater Manchester. Looks to be a Luftwaffe cross from the wing or fuselage.
It would have been interesting to know “what if” the British had actually taken up Hess,s interesting “offer” and gone down the ceasefire route .
hess had no power to act on that, he had gone awol, hence nothing would have happened
in our country we have a fictive story about that. only no peace agreement and so on. i believe the duke of died. in a aeroplane. somewhere above sweden. fictive story
@@shutup2751 Obviously the phrase " What if " passed you by...
@@shutup2751 what if that was a lie?
This is one that has been talked about probably since it happened.
Broadly put a German British armistice would have meant no Western front and no bombardment of German industry.
It would probably also short circuit any German declaration of war against the United States a few years later which probably means no lend lease to the Soviet Union.
Personally I think this translates to a German victory on the Eastern front, there are many who would disagree with this.
German victory in the East means the Cold war would have been with Hitler's successors leading to unpredictable consequences.
A Soviet victory would lead to Soviet domination of Western Europe and equally unpredictable consequences.
So it might be better, it might be much worse this is something for a science fiction author to play with and several have.
OK, here's something.. It's interesting Dr Felton that you say his 'shoes' were taken along with his uniform etc. This could carry some significance as I had many years ago a conversation with a lady in Suffolk who owned an antique shop. During the regular "Are you looking for anything particular" type introduction I told her I was interested in 'old military items' moreover German military, in a broad sense. She told me it was a shame because if I'd come in a few months back she had something that may have interested me.
She went on to tell me a story of the night a German plane came down on her Mothers farm in Scotland and that the man who parachuted from it was a high level Nazi, his name was Rudolf Hess.
She told me that her Mother was the first to see him, took him into the farmhouse, gave him something to eat and drink and offered him a pair of shoes as the boots he was wearing were not suitable for his 'journey ahead of him' for whatever reason, maybe they were damaged or too restrictive to wear I don't recall if a reason was offered.
She went on to tell me that her Mother kept the boots for many years and when her daughter opened a shop she gave them to her as a curio to keep/display etc.
She said that over the years the boots, being leather had become very hard and brittle almost to the point of collapse. "Nobody was ever going to wear them and probably nobody would have perhaps believed me about who they belonged to anyway" she said, implying that this story was one that she had never actually told before.
The lady told me she had literally 'got rid of them' only some months before.
Now, I don't know how credible this story is, but as she didn't have them to show me or try to sell to me she had nothing to gain by lying about these boots. And knowing the outline of the facts as they were even back then, what she was saying did all sound fairly credible. If her Mother really had taken him in for refreshments after his landing and exchanged his boots for a pair of shoes, what else may she have had, the helmet perhaps?
Interesting in that the details of how Hess was found contradicts the official account.
Great video Professor Felton....never knew much behind the circumstances of Rudolf Hess and his flight to Britain
I love these snippets of history that usually go unnoticed. Thanks again Dr. Felton.
it's these fascinating little details that get lost in the bigger picture of the Second World War., never heard any of this in school and it definitely would have added to Hess' story. I only found out a couple of weeks ago that Hess spent some time in a hospital 20 minutes away from in Abergavenny, global history on a local scale and none of my friends or family knew. Thank you Dr Felton for giving us the history that falls through the cracks
Mark, can you cover the story of Prince George Duke of Kent, killed in an air crash during WW2?
Lots of interesting rumors around the circumstances, such as the briefcase full of Swedish Kronas with him.
Thanks
Sounds juicy. Great suggestion. 👍
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@@rjchavers9267 The wiki article is really interesting. He had a very flamboyant lifestyle, was a senior freemason and a brother of the King.
Compared to other WW2 stories it is ignored. Very few books on his life or death.
I'm keen to see that video too.
is that the story about the plane crash where they said that they had recovered everyones body that was on the plane and then the following day the tail gunner was found alive?
The way this man was treated was inhumane, no one was to know how bad things would get, so he was a useful scapegoat. He should never have been given such a severe sentence.
*He should never had been forced to listen to Spandau Ballet for 40+ Years !*
It was always the British that rejected his release not the Russians as we were told,just finished the book on this subject and it’s Churchill who should of been in prison till he died
@@GrrMeisterYou know this much is true.
I have to say I am close friends with Rudolf Hess's descendent, which is fascinating being such a World War 2 Historian. They are only similar in appearance.
That would be challenging.
A friend of mine is a descendant of Reinhard Heydrich, creepy for sure.
@@thEannoyingE He was an evil bastard....i would never admit that!
Hess always struck me as a modern day "Man in the Iron Mask", and I don't fully understand his "war crimes". How about a video detailing the actual war crimes charges against Hess? His participation in WWII was somewhat limited, given that he became a prisoner in 1941.
He may have had a limited role during WW2, but in the years leading up to it he was Hitler's right-hand man and was deeply involved with everything the Nazis did.
@@DK-gy7ll as were many but didn’t Serve Life in prison!! Ok maybe Not all the way back to the 20,s but there certainly were a lot more worse war criminals that were eventually released….
His only “crime” was that he knew the dirty secret that Britain could have ended the war there and saved millions of life but deliberately turned down the peace initiative as they had a different hidden agenda.
My memory is that the Soviets vetoed his release.
@@DK-gy7ll but you can make somebody responsible for things he didnt do
Thank you for continuing to produce these works.
Amazing that he was convicted of war crimes, sentenced to life but kept his personal belongings that were then stolen.
They were in a store room not in his cell
That is the kind of history we have come to appreciate from you Dr Felton, a lot of other unanswered questions remain and can be speculated about Hess’s intentions but his plane and flight gear are of great interest! Be super if your video starts new questions about where they are now !
I have often wonder over my 70 years of life what happened to his plane.. thanks Mark this was a very good video and answered some of my questions..
There's a thing called Google....great for researching such things....stick the Royal Family in there,start with Prince Andrew's real Dad,fun research,especially once you start digging,not even the Eastenders script writers could come up with that script(check the images too,Andy,spit of his Dad). You're welcome....
@@williamrae9954 Google your trusted source for honest and reliable information for the masses..
@@tinkmarshino No,it's a fuck'n search engine... doh
@@williamrae9954 Relax Billy boy.. your way to tense.. If I hopped you up sorry man.. Why is every one so angry today.. I was just meaning that there is not a lot of truth on the internet and it is hard to find.. I hunt down original papers and source material is all.. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers brother..
@@tinkmarshino I'm that relaxed, last US CDL medical (thorough)I had, I'm got the same heart rate as an F1 driver, 54BPM...ticking over!
Great work mark
Don't know, probably melted down to make more spitfires.🤣
But my dad was one of those on duty the night they brought Hess, under heavy guard, into Mary Hill Barracks in Glasgow that night.
Yip, the old Guardhouse is still there on the Maryhill Road, as are most of the walls... I signed on for my Service directly opposite... 👍🏴
It’s very suspicious he was kept in prison with good no explanation of his mission.
One of the the thing's that keeps me going is watching Mark Felton and learning a lot more about World War II
Me too ,absolutely fantastic researching of ww2 ,
I remember seeing one of the engines and part of the rear fuselage at IWM London. Clearly visible in the fuselage was an item of radio equipment. I think these are the parts now at IWM Duxford.
I always wondered that myself. Thank you.
Always an outstanding video and presentation.
Enjoyed the video. I actually saw Hess, at a distance in the garden, in Spandau in 1984. How bizarre!
Always a pleasure to watch Mr. Felton's well-researched and presented videos!
The official line...nothing to do with real research...bit like the Covid lies,the official stats are trotted out,not the truth....Covid jab injury payments??
Love your stuff Mark! Thanks for all the effort you put into your work.
YAY!!! Thanks Mark!
I still don’t understand how your content is consistently original and relevant to military history
Eh? explain yourself, I'm curious as to what made you spend time writing your comment.
The victors wrote the history books, push their AGENDA, & outright censorship, obviously. You really have to dig for truth. You'd be surprised where deep dives take you, if you know where to look.
Well. He's a military focused historian 😆
@@TezKingboom someone say copy past
@@christx3326 so this channel is a good start then.
I was a new 2nd Lieutenant assigned to Berlin in 1982. One of my first assignments was to command the American guard detachment at Spandau Prison. We were all told that if we said anything to Hess, we would be put on the next train out of Berlin. I saw him walking every day, but I kept my distance from him!
What is it Hess?
I have never commented on your videos. But watched almost all of them. You make top notch content! Cudos to you for digging so deep in your sources and putting your videos so god together! Love from norway!
Just a little side note for you Mark, he was first spotted over the Northumberland Coast at a little village inland called Chatton, just outside Wooler where I live, and I know the son who lives on a farm just outside Chatton called Wandon Farm, his father was on duty that night in his observer post, when Hess's plane flew over on his way North.
Thanks for that....i know he flew from east - west,used the Firth of Clyde for bearings,then turned eastwards towards what is now East Kilbride probably flying over near this house using the hills to dodge radar at RAF Turnberry
Ronald Speirs who featured in ‘Band of Brothers’ (being in charge of ‘D’ Company) later became governor of Spandau prison when Hess was an inmate.
I hope Hess didn't take any cigarettes off Spiers 😄
@MFX_media Maybe, maybe not, that’s why he have these things called trials.
But seeing your other comments you’re just a troll.
Best wishes from New Zealand Dr Felton. Another captivating story.
Love that your channel is over 1.5 M subs and we still get those movie maker style transitions and texts! Never change man!!
From Scotland, where the story is well known, an excellent video Dr. Mark! Dungavel House is sadly now used as a detention centre for refugees and immigrants, surrounded by razor wire. No-one can say for sure if the choice of crash landing site implicated the Hamiltons in co-operation with the Nazis, but suspicions remain to this day. I respect your desire to limit the conversation to the whereabouts of the aircraft parts. I sense there may be more to be told, when those involved are no longer with us?
Aye its an absolute tip now. I've been in it a few times in the course of work over the past few years and it's a waste of a lovely historical building... 🏴👍
he was held at Buchanan castle which now derelict, funny how every connection to Hess and the UK has been "rubbed out"
it's also odd that the files on Hess in the UK are still classified today, even though they should've been released by now.
i suspect the royal family were having secret talks with Hitler. afterall there are recently released pictures of the royal family doing Nazi salutes in the grounds of Buckingham palace
@Cjaydaloc True, sad to see these places being whittled away to nothing or demolished. Complete travesty...
Quality video - I've been to Duxford many times and seen that wreckage, never realised what it was though!
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Thank you once again, Dr. Felton. for a very interesting and thought-provoking look back into the realms of history.
For the last two years i have been the resident archaeologist for the redevelopment of the former Messerschmitt HQ and factory complex at Haunstetter, Augsburg. Substantial remains of some of the factory buildings survived underground, although sadly, due to money and the "baggage" associated with this history, I was not permitted to record them. Numerous aircraft and vehicle pieces have been recovered; many before I took the job. Sadly they just disappeared as souvenirs before being recorded. I have however saved a barbette from an Me 210/410 as well as parts of the machines actually used in the production of the aircraft. In March of this year we had an unexploded bomb (500lber), the second in three years of work. Also recovered were concrete bombs, used as ballast to simulate real bomb loads. Some buildings remain intact, most notably the HQ building itself and what I believe was the building used for the storage of flight gear. I'm currently excavating approximately 50 metres away from the concrete apron where the 110 would have been parked prior to takeoff. The project is due to finish this summer; I can't say I'll be sorry. I cannot help but think that had I been allowed to do my job, I could have potentially thrown some new light on the the subject of WW2 aircraft production in Germany, as well as the lot of those who were tasked with working there - both the willing and not. A missed opportunity I think.
Anything new become of your work?
@@hubriswonk My contract ended in November, so I have not been back on site. However, I have stashed some substantial pieces of an Me410 which I need to bring back - so I will let you know what the site looks like now
Thank you Mark for your history!!
Hess’ flight is the greatest unanswered part of WWII. Britain needs to explain their actions, I believe they lured him with no intention of making a deal and were astonished he actually showed up.
They were setting up a nazi. Nothing really to explain. He was lucky he was shot on site.
Since they kept him in prison for lifetime and even so many decades later when initiatives had started to finally release the old men due to his physical condition they decided to murder him to keep the truth buried for ever. Shameful
I agree. The story just doesn’t add up. It’s true that Hitler wanted to make peace with Great Britain during the “phony war”. That fact was confirmed by Adolph Galland and there’s a video of that on TH-cam. There seems to be no doubt that Hess’s mission was an attempt to secure a cessation of hostilities between Britain and Germany. I’m unclear as to exactly what Hess’s specific war crimes were or why they warranted a life sentence or why it was necessary to have him occupy a cell as the only prisoner in the entire facility isolated from other prisoners at such great expense. How can the allies treatment of Rudolf Hess be reconciled with our beliefs as expressed in Mathew 5:9.
Love your work! Enjoy everyone and can’t wait for the next …
Will you be doing an episode about Hess, his incarnation and death?
Really enjoyed the one about Himmlers capture and death
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing it, Mark.
Another amazing historical coverage about Rudolf Hesse s airplane
Dr, Felton. Please do a story on Hess, his story and the British. I have never really understood the exact details of it, or read anything of note. I do believe Hitler, didn't want to fight the British. He had said so, he was more concerned about Russia. So it's very possible that this was an official mission? What's baffling to me is why the British, never even entertained the thought? Why?
Brilliant video. Thanks for sharing.
thanks for your curiosity stream plug Mark ....Its awesome
RIP Rudolf Hess
Great content as always Mark, but I'm interested in knowing more about Hess's history after the crash landing, I've watched your video on him many times and something seems off.. Heard there were some top secret documents that would perhaps be declassified in the future, anything you know?
Another amazing chapter in history, thank you for your reporting.
Such a cool video! Thanks for touching on all the obscure!
If you don't smash the like button instantly on Mark Felton videos I just don't understand you
I better not since that would bring up a dialog asking if I want unsubscribe.
Excellent video that I’d never even crossed my mind any of his plane survived to this day! Excellent story Dr. Felton only partly answered.
What puzzles me is why was Hess kept alive for so long. Refused to be allowed to speak with anyone, even his own son. Then “committed suicide” as a old man that has been addressed he wouldn’t have had the strength to do it. Was German courts close to allowing him freedom after all these years to speak about something British was terrified that could be harmful to it? Strange British soldiers were on duty during his death and immediate destruction of the prison without a thorough investigation should have been required by the courts or justice system of Germany. Far to many unanswered questions Dr. Felton you should try and help address for us please. As you are able to access info we can’t 😉
Keep 'em coming Mark!
Another wonderful video!
Thanks a lot Dr. Felton.
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Excellent video - There has to be so much to the Hess story. I like the item by the British medical officer at Spandau who investigated Hess' 1st World War record to show that he was not the hero the German propaganda had promoted because his scars were too insignificant for the wounds it was claimed he survived. His investigations actually confirmed that Hess was very much a heroic figure who had survived very serious injuries which led the doctor in a completely different direction. He could see that the person in Spandau did not have the appropriate substantial scars to be Hess and equally convincing was the stonewalling and closed for 100 years files he tried, via different avenues, to see to confirm his new suspicion - So many things about Hess do not make sense. At the time everyone thought he would be a propaganda bonanza but he was a spectacularly disappointing non event. More speculative is the idea that :- 'Hess' was part of a 'peace deal' supported by the Crown to help convince the Reich for the purposes of delaying or changing their actions:- And why did 'Hess' as per some recent high profile politically sensitive prisoners have damage inconsistent with unassisted suicide.
There is a part of the plane currently on display at the Imperial War Museum North in Manchester, UK.
Been watching your videos for a couple years… you really track down a lot of what seems hard to find information. One of my favorites is still about “The Bell” 🔔 I still think there’s something more 😉 and can’t remember if you did one on the sinking of the “heavy water” in the north. That story is very intriguing to me as well.
I used to go to the East Anglian Aviation Society (If I recall the name correctly) when I was a plane-mad kid. It would have been around 1972-1975ish. They had set up at Duxford aerodrome and were collecting all sorts of artifacts in the hangars. I remember parts of Hess’s plane up against one wall in one of the hangars, there wasn’t much of it. That outfit was taken over or absorbed by the Imperial War Museum some time after I stopped going. It wasn’t open to the public at the time I was helping there. Ormond Haydon-Baillie kept planes there at the time and sometimes did some amazing low passes apparently. I never witnessed one though, only ever going on a Sunday. If anyone recalls dates, I was there when a Junkers 52 arrived from Spain and a B24 stopped over on route from I think India. I can remember getting into the rear turret of the B24 and thinking it was a bit snug, and I was a 7.5 stone (105lb) kid.
Hess wasn't around for most the world War II; why did he receive such a severe sentence? Especially since his last official action was one of a peacekeeping mission?
Because he was one of the people who started WW2 which killed 27 million.
So sick and tired of history being changed to be socially correct, thank you Mr. felton for your fantastic insights‼️®™️
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Fascinating, as always Mark.
Awesome stuff! Thanks dude!
Forgive the ignorance, but why was Hess given a life sentence even though he was captured so early in the war while officers such as Karl Dönitz who oversaw the majority of successful U-Boat operations and given a much lighter sentence such as him being released in 1956 to live out the rest of his life freely?
Hess played a roll in the instigation of the Nuremberg laws and the concentration camps, planning wars of aggression. Had he been released however West Germany was going to arrest him for his complicity in the night of the long knives, as Rohms murder was actively prosecuted after the war.
Donitz was a military commander only accused of ordering the machine gunning of helpless sailors in the Ocean. Should be noted that allied naval commanders where accused of the same and some allied naval commanders protested Donitz' prison sentence.
@@jasonschweigert8069 Ah, OK thanks
Being a senior Nazi, presumably Hess was aware of the upcoming operation Barbarossa. Perhaps this "peace" flight was his attempt to avoid the inevitability of a 2 front war?
Hess was the sole prisoner in Spandau after the release of Speer in 1966. The Soviets liked that as it gave them access to the western zone during their guard rotation.
An unexpected and fascinating twist to the Hess story, thank you Mark 🙏🏼
I went to Spandau prison back in 1990, while stationed in Berlin, a city of so much history. If you ever get a chance to go, it is a must-see City.
When I was in the army (the same as my dad)
I was on a detail that guarded Rudolph Hess, my dad did the same thing
We took over from the Americans and handed over to the East German guards
Hess was a very lonely bloke in spa day prison, he would just walk around talking to himself, he was a very lonely figure walking around the prison
We were under orders not to speak to him
I did take a couple of photos of him
My dad was there too, he said same thing.
It was Russian troops. Not East German
@@andrewclark5444 there were Russian officers, the guards were East German
I know, I swapped gear with them, they liked English cigarettes and out coffee
I was there, were you ?
Yes I was there 1968 army flag tours
You are not supposed to ask about Rudoph Hess - Deputy Leader of Germany.
Why do you think he was held 'incommunicado' for the rest of his life?
He was not incommunicado BUT it was some years before he agreed to see his family AND IF he had been a double - after those years relatives would see who they expected to see - like the Demjanuk trial
Certain media powers - that we all know today only too well - established their new and false 'narrative' for the post war period.
This did not include how Germany desperately wanted peace and an alliance with Great Britain - or the details on how Britain was being manupulated into yet another fraternal WAR with Germany.
For exactly the SAME reason WW1 hero Captain Archibald Maul Ramsay, MP, was arrested and jailed (without even charges let alone a conviction) in Pentoville Prison for four and a half years.
He was released after the War and the same day took back his seat in the House of Commons.
Thanks Dr. Felton for another illuminating video that presents fascinating information that others ignore or overlook. You remain the standard that all others should aspire to.
I love your content you are giving me more information from WW2 that I didn't know
New video. great
When I was growing up in Woodley Berkshire 70/80s one of my friends told me his mothers stepfather was involved with Hess`s early capture being in the army. He liberated a dagger from the plane crash site, as Hess was in a Luftwaffe uniform it was probably a Luftwaffe dagger, maybe a type 1. He loaned it to the local British legion and never got it back they seemed to think he gave it as a donation!! so this is out there to somewhere, interestingly his mothers real father went down on HMS Hood
Amazing how many things "on loan" became donations when the owner expresses a desire for the return of it.
My Mom is 95 and had a friend lost on the Bismark. Today is Mothers Day. I will ask her to e-mail me the story. Heard it as a child but dont remember...
Unlikely on this flight Hess would also have ceremonial dagger
@@von-Adler Why not if he thought he was brokering a major peace deal for Der Fuhrer ?
Fuselage was on display at the IWM London, '75-'77 or so. I saw it.
Really fascinating story, Mark. I had no idea about this incident at all. Incidentally, there was an unfortunate resurgence in the interest of Hess during the 1970s Skokie protests. The protestors there wanted Hess removed from Spandau where he was being imprisoned. Of course, this was never done, and we know what happened.
The real question is, what happened to Hess' eyebrow trimmers?
My dad has a 9mm Luger WITH ORIGINAL papers, matching number magazine AND the document of who received the weapon in Germany, along with his Iron Cross and ribbons-NOT for sale!!!!!
I learn something new every time I watch your videos, there simply brilliant thank you Mark!