This lady is amazing in teaching skill. Since I learnt harmonium on my own Iam able to understand her depth and clarity. I learnt harmonium to know the pattern of each swaras. I know now the features of each raga , so that I can bring that mood of the raga by playing its features. I was a singer only. But now I can bring that bhava into the raga of the song by just playing its features. I personally feel it is better a singer learns harmonium , keyboard or anyone instrument to bring that bhava to the raag. Thats why alaapana is needed. Mastery of the swaras can be had by key board or harmonium bcs instrument can't make mistake when you play a raaga, bcs each raaga has specific swaras and you perfectly know whether you are deviating from the raaga or not.
I can identify the base note or Shruti but I'm not very good at identifying all the other notes of the song. I think I've not put in efforts to identify them. I must start to do that to learn/explore the music. I've not learnt playing instrument either but I know the names of 12 notes w.r.t base note/shruti and can sing them. I somehow find it easy to identify the raaga (known ones 😅) based on the feel/bhaava/emotions the song brings out. You're right 👍 the aalaap and most importantly the important phrases 'pakad' (along with vaadi samvadi aaroh avroh) which help not only to identify the raaga but to bring out the bhaava/feel of the raaga.
Basically , per western music concept, she is helping to understand how to figure out which Mode the song is tuned in. Like ionian mode , Lydian mode, harmonic minor mode. Etc.
No sir, It is not talking about modes. It is talking about finding the root note of any song, and then identifying other notes of the song using the interval theory. What she implies is that you need to be really familiar with your intervals given the root.
Yes, I used to for first 2,3 lines. If the song is - say 'mukala.. mukabla..' - others can also identify when I play. But it it is a melody.. they will give a hostile stare.. for my mottai swaras.😅
Excellent discussion and superb presentation. Yes in Jazz the most common chord progression is 2-5-1, or re- pa-sa. The composition will start from re and land on sa.
Miss Prathiba, huge fan of your videos. I have learnt Carnatic music for 3-4 years in school and am an engineer, can hugely connect to how you explain the material. God gifted talent!
Great. I have been using this technique not for singing but to play instruments, however while doing transformations of notes from one instrument to another is a challenge i.e. playing on Bb Saxophone and then playing same song on Eb Soprano sax or on a G# flute. This exercise then becomes a little tricky and i tend to jump scales than the original. I tried to study in detail the circle of fifths etc. But i always have the confusion of the correct scale.
You have gained very good musical skills and I Congratulate you. But these tougher skills are for few lucky ones only. Not for all. God bless you Pratibha jee.❤❤❤❤
Very interesting! I do very easily find out saa in any song, but I would not have been explain how it happens. May be in the back of mind I must be following same process very quickly, without even noticing what I am doing and how I am finding saa in a song! You are gem!
Since I’m going through VoxGuru Carnatic Grade 1 classes, I am salivating thinking when I’ll progress to the level of identifying the swaras. The Pro Challenge in this grade itself is there, as in other Grades, which is reverse of what you talked about, i.e. producing the sound based on a random note thrown at you. As usual your style of teaching is so impressive - the very reason why I enrolled into the course - these videos are treasure house for future reference.
I think only 1 in 10000 people are pitch perfect. Its a subconscious skill that cannot be acquired. Either you have it or you dont ;). The way I learnt is to compare the note to your standard spoken voice, in my case it happens to be A2 and then guess the octave or note from there.
There is a difference between having perfect pitch and the skill we are developing here. Perfect pitch is where you directly identify the absolute note that is being played. Like identifying A2, C3 etc just by ear. But here we are not doing that. All we are doing is, identifying the root note (here also we don't identify it directly by ear, but we remember the sound and then match it using a keyboard). Then we decode other notes relative to the root, which again doesn't require perfect pitch but more an understanding of the 12 notes and intervals in an octave. So the ability to decode notes, relative to a certain frame of reference is much easier to do than identifying the absolute note. So good news, more people can do this even if you don't have perfect pitch 😊
Excellent explanation ❤ even I try to use the longer method to decode the swaras..I guess I need to focus on understanding the swarasthanas of the 12 notes
Madam, I always wanted to acquire the ability of identifying notes of song just by listening. I wasn't given a chance to learn music from a teacher in my childhood. But now I am in medical College and I watched lectures on music theory (western). And I was able to understand scales, modes, chords. After that I bought a Ukulele and I practiced on it. I was able to find notes of songs which I used to hear in my childhood easily but I found it difficult doing same with the songs I heard in my adulthood. I am pretty slow at decoding notes usually takes an hour for a song by hit and trial method. I want to increase my speed in identifying notes. I usually don't try to find the root note, instead I always start the song on any random note and then I try to find relative notes. I have no aspirations of playing as a professional along with a singer so I never bothered about finding actual root note. I only learn and play for peace of mind and as a hobby. Do you have any suggestions on how can I improve my speed ? I don't wish to find absolute notes, I rather want to focus only on relative notes.
We have 3 self learning courses on ear training on the VoxGuru app and 3 more courses are on the way. This provides a structured method for decoding which is more reliable and can help find the notes faster and easily. Do check out the VoxGuru app on Android or iOS.
Hii Ma'am, Your videos are really helpful for us... Please share some exercises for preventing the Adams apple to raise above while singing high notes...
For a person who doesn`t know basics of music though has urge to know this is impossible.... And a learned person sure will know this eventually on journey of learning music .
How to identify the swaras in a song bcoz the pitch may vary as pa for some may sound like ma in different pitch.. how to identify both pitch and swaras?
That was a very informative video but ma'am a (probably stupid) question..when you give the example of Ae haerat-e-aashiqui, why can't the first note be treated as Sa and treat the rest of the notes with reference to that Sa? Why should it be treated as a Pa?
You dont " learn" to translate / identify notes ; it just happens. I was getting formal training in classical music as a child ; & I found myself seamlessly playing violin to any song / tune that I heard . You can't "teach" this as separate skill in music.
This video is more from a vocalist perspective of how to identify notes without an instrument to play it on. While the matching of notes is intuitive, being able to translate it into swaras instantly requires systematic practice. In this video i have shared my journey of the challenges i faced and how I overcame them.
Sure, we have a wide variety of self learning courses on the VoxGuru app. You are welcome to explore them. Sharing the links below! Android - bit.ly/3nTLqex iOS - apple.co/2Yfeowu
This lady is amazing in teaching skill. Since I learnt harmonium on my own Iam able to understand her depth and clarity. I learnt harmonium to know the pattern of each swaras. I know now the features of each raga , so that I can bring that mood of the raga by playing its features. I was a singer only. But now I can bring that bhava into the raga of the song by just playing its features. I personally feel it is better a singer learns harmonium , keyboard or anyone instrument to bring that bhava to the raag. Thats why alaapana is needed. Mastery of the swaras can be had by key board or harmonium bcs instrument can't make mistake when you play a raaga, bcs each raaga has specific swaras and you perfectly know whether you are deviating from the raaga or not.
I can identify the base note or Shruti but I'm not very good at identifying all the other notes of the song. I think I've not put in efforts to identify them. I must start to do that to learn/explore the music.
I've not learnt playing instrument either but I know the names of 12 notes w.r.t base note/shruti and can sing them.
I somehow find it easy to identify the raaga (known ones 😅) based on the feel/bhaava/emotions the song brings out.
You're right 👍 the aalaap and most importantly the important phrases 'pakad' (along with vaadi samvadi aaroh avroh) which help not only to identify the raaga but to bring out the bhaava/feel of the raaga.
Basically , per western music concept, she is helping to understand how to figure out which Mode the song is tuned in. Like ionian mode , Lydian mode, harmonic minor mode. Etc.
No sir, It is not talking about modes. It is talking about finding the root note of any song, and then identifying other notes of the song using the interval theory. What she implies is that you need to be really familiar with your intervals given the root.
Yes, I used to for first 2,3 lines. If the song is - say 'mukala.. mukabla..' - others can also identify when I play. But it it is a melody.. they will give a hostile stare.. for my mottai swaras.😅
Excellent discussion and superb presentation. Yes in Jazz the most common chord progression is 2-5-1, or re- pa-sa. The composition will start from re and land on sa.
Miss Prathiba, huge fan of your videos. I have learnt Carnatic music for 3-4 years in school and am an engineer, can hugely connect to how you explain the material. God gifted talent!
You are a really great teacher.Especially your passion of diving deep in to fundamentals of the subject is praiseworthy .
You have a beautiful voice and you are very good teacher 🙏🏼
This is such an amazing video! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR WISDOM ❤🎉
Great. I have been using this technique not for singing but to play instruments, however while doing transformations of notes from one instrument to another is a challenge i.e. playing on Bb Saxophone and then playing same song on Eb Soprano sax or on a G# flute. This exercise then becomes a little tricky and i tend to jump scales than the original. I tried to study in detail the circle of fifths etc. But i always have the confusion of the correct scale.
Thank you... God bless you...
👌❤️🌹🙏🏻🌺💜👍
You have gained very good musical skills and I Congratulate you. But these tougher skills are for few lucky ones only. Not for all. God bless you Pratibha jee.❤❤❤❤
Very interesting! I do very easily find out saa in any song, but I would not have been explain how it happens. May be in the back of mind I must be following same process very quickly, without even noticing what I am doing and how I am finding saa in a song! You are gem!
Since I’m going through VoxGuru Carnatic Grade 1 classes, I am salivating thinking when I’ll progress to the level of identifying the swaras. The Pro Challenge in this grade itself is there, as in other Grades, which is reverse of what you talked about, i.e. producing the sound based on a random note thrown at you.
As usual your style of teaching is so impressive - the very reason why I enrolled into the course - these videos are treasure house for future reference.
I got my answers here… Thank you so much Pratibha madam🙏🏻
Thanku for sharing such great experience and knowledge mam Charan sparsh thanku very much 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I think only 1 in 10000 people are pitch perfect. Its a subconscious skill that cannot be acquired. Either you have it or you dont ;). The way I learnt is to compare the note to your standard spoken voice, in my case it happens to be A2 and then guess the octave or note from there.
There is a difference between having perfect pitch and the skill we are developing here. Perfect pitch is where you directly identify the absolute note that is being played. Like identifying A2, C3 etc just by ear. But here we are not doing that. All we are doing is, identifying the root note (here also we don't identify it directly by ear, but we remember the sound and then match it using a keyboard). Then we decode other notes relative to the root, which again doesn't require perfect pitch but more an understanding of the 12 notes and intervals in an octave. So the ability to decode notes, relative to a certain frame of reference is much easier to do than identifying the absolute note. So good news, more people can do this even if you don't have perfect pitch 😊
@@VoxGuru Thank you for clarification.
@@VoxGurui learned it by same way..by comparing the note with keyboard notes
Finding the key.
Thank you
Please upload the next part video as soon as possible please
Hi,This is an exemplary skill.would like to try.
Wow! Technically enriching and very well articulated! Maybe its a lot of intuition and an equal amount of acquired skill!
Thank you for sharing these tips 🙂🙏
Keezh sthaayi, madhya sthayi, Tara sthaayi
Where song starts is to be identified
Presentation and the language marvellous
Excellent Prathibhaji.❤🙏👍🙇♀️
Excellent explanation Sister. Thankyou so much ❤❤
Root note and frame of reference is the key to success for singers and musicians
I am impressed with you knowledge on music though your mere talk sound like music
Very useful video for aspiring musicians 🎸
Thank you sooo much ma'am ❤❤❤❤😊
Excellent explanation ❤ even I try to use the longer method to decode the swaras..I guess I need to focus on understanding the swarasthanas of the 12 notes
As usual,Super explanation .
Thank you so much for valuable information 🙏🏻❤️
Superb content. 👌👍👏🙏
This can help us play any song on harmonium or keyboard.
This was very helpfull for me. Thank you
your voice is so good!
Excellent information
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏💛💛
Madam, I always wanted to acquire the ability of identifying notes of song just by listening. I wasn't given a chance to learn music from a teacher in my childhood. But now I am in medical College and I watched lectures on music theory (western). And I was able to understand scales, modes, chords. After that I bought a Ukulele and I practiced on it. I was able to find notes of songs which I used to hear in my childhood easily but I found it difficult doing same with the songs I heard in my adulthood. I am pretty slow at decoding notes usually takes an hour for a song by hit and trial method. I want to increase my speed in identifying notes. I usually don't try to find the root note, instead I always start the song on any random note and then I try to find relative notes. I have no aspirations of playing as a professional along with a singer so I never bothered about finding actual root note. I only learn and play for peace of mind and as a hobby. Do you have any suggestions on how can I improve my speed ? I don't wish to find absolute notes, I rather want to focus only on relative notes.
We have 3 self learning courses on ear training on the VoxGuru app and 3 more courses are on the way. This provides a structured method for decoding which is more reliable and can help find the notes faster and easily. Do check out the VoxGuru app on Android or iOS.
Mam can you please make a video on how to get higher notes in falsetto and whistle notes please 🙏🙏🙏
Very insightful!! Thanks for sharing!✨🙏❤
Hi,
You should give one example SA of another swara 🙏🌹
Hii Ma'am,
Your videos are really helpful for us...
Please share some exercises for preventing the Adams apple to raise above while singing high notes...
🙄🙄🥺
a very good teacher !
ನಮಗು ಇಷ್ಟನೀವು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲು ಹೇಳಿಕೊಡುವಂತಿದ್ದರೆ. ನಮಗೆ ಬೇರೆಭಾಷೆ ಬರುವುದಿಲ್ಲ ಆದರು ನಿಮ್ಮ ಎಲ್ಲಾವೀಡಿಯೋಗಳನ್ನ ನೋಡಿ ಅರ್ಥಮಾಡಿಕೊಳ್ಳಲು ಪ್ರಯತ್ನಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ
ನಾನು 1 ವರ್ಷದಿಂದ ಕೇಳ್ತಿದಿನಿ ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಹೇಳಿ ಅಂತ ಅವ್ರು ಓನ್ಲಿ ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ಅಂತರೆ
Excellent! Thank you...
Chala Chala bagundi madam..🎉🎉
Very cool, Pratibha!! :)
Identifying notes is the true test of "knowing" music.
For a person who doesn`t know basics of music though has urge to know this is impossible.... And a learned person sure will know this eventually on journey of learning music .
I am a master of perfect pitch.. I have been training carnatic for 10 years now....
Are u able to sing the song :O duniya ke rakhwale" in the original scale as sung by MOhd Rafi-try it out.
Great teaching
Superb awesome
You sing so beautifully!
Excellent
Keyboard has Octave and Keyboard Transpose.
U have this inbuilt
Lovely explanation ❤
Amazing mam
Very valuable insight for self learning aspirants❤
Knowledgeable videos which are helpful.
Amazing video ma'am 👏
Please mujhe is song ka note chahiye saathiya mere me to Tera Deewana hu
Thanks for giving us such valuable lessons
Thank you so much ❤❤❤❤❤
What aLovely session
Thank you
No advertisement was hurt while making this video. 9:13
Thanks 🙏
You are blessed!
Thank you so much madam🙏💐
Its really a game changer. 😊
Kab kya routine hona chahiye voice ko practice karne keliye???
Thank you so much ❤
How to identify the swaras in a song bcoz the pitch may vary as pa for some may sound like ma in different pitch.. how to identify both pitch and swaras?
Very good video...much needed one
U are a born music teacher
This tutorial is very good😄...Can you please post a tutorial on the song PRANAVALAYA from the movie Shyam Singha roy🙏🙏
Hope you'll see this comment.
Thank you madam 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I was going to say "By their finger prints". Your answer makes a lot more sense. Mine was just nonsensical.
I’m still trying to get that skill from my physics days at Rajasthan 😊
Very Precisely presented 🙏
Through this course will we able to identify the notes in keyboard for any song even western songs?
What a wonderful session 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌👌👌👌
I want to learn raga...
I have tried this for so many years ..I can sing in pitch but find it very difficult to identify the swaras
Thanks Madam
Very good
Thank you mam
I am learning Hindustani classical music, Can I take Ear training course?
Good
Exactly not all songs starts from sa..
❤🎉 super 👌 😊
I am a Muslim, but I would love to be a Hindu and named Swaras, and my wife named Shruti ❤
brother u r hindu u r not muslim
How to identify raga in any song
It's very very difficult 😢😢
That was a very informative video but ma'am a (probably stupid) question..when you give the example of Ae haerat-e-aashiqui, why can't the first note be treated as Sa and treat the rest of the notes with reference to that Sa? Why should it be treated as a Pa?
The question is still unanswered. How do you know the song starts from sa or pa?
As mentioned, a deep understanding of the 12 swaras and recognizing their position relative to the root note will help with this.
Hi madam I want to identify the notes using your methods
Sure we can help. please whatsapp us at +91 98402 43715 to discuss more details about our courses.
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lovely
You dont " learn" to translate / identify notes ; it just happens.
I was getting formal training in classical music as a child ; & I found myself seamlessly playing violin to any song / tune that I heard .
You can't "teach" this as separate skill in music.
This video is more from a vocalist perspective of how to identify notes without an instrument to play it on. While the matching of notes is intuitive, being able to translate it into swaras instantly requires systematic practice. In this video i have shared my journey of the challenges i faced and how I overcame them.
Pls give details for download ing app
Sure, we have a wide variety of self learning courses on the VoxGuru app. You are welcome to explore them. Sharing the links below!
Android - bit.ly/3nTLqex
iOS - apple.co/2Yfeowu