Protect the Protection! I am equally interested in seeing how you set up your HBHF and electrics. How you connect your batteries and simplify your circuitry.
I always look forward to getting a notification that you posted a new video. This is still one of the most underrated rust channels out there. At the same time, I hope we get to utilize these tricks before everyone learns about them. Keep up the awesome videos!
I just ran a test with two layers of fences and much to my surprise not only did they block arrows... but completely absorbed all bullets, including explosive ammo. Nothing gets damaged when shooting through the rings. Meanwhile turrets can still fire and do damage from the inside. This has insane roof defense potential... I hope they don't patch this before I get to try it out next wipe 😅
Thing is, putting frames around turrets sucks because it makes LOS points that anyone can exploit by keeping the frame between them and the turret. More frames compounds that problem. The best solution to prevent someone from grubbing turrets will still be more turrets I think. The way I see it if a single turret eats up 5minutes of anyone's time it's done its job. You're that much closer to being back online. An easy hbhf system that can be mass replicated would be huge to learn though.
If you see the example in the video, and in all of my base builds, I always have 3-4 sets of turrets around the compound guarding each other, so it's no biggy. Much better than having some naked build up twig frames and destroy them I think. I'd build this 10 out of 10 times in wipe
As always excellent video. I use the turrets behind doors with sensors and openers all the time. Sometimes I use garage door. Sometimes I use double door. Depends on the purpose. And you can have many doors as you want run off of one sensor. Also I use the old blocker trick to keep the door closed when the turret is out of ammo. Can't give away free guns.
@@GameLightz are you positive because I've done a crap ton of weapon testing and no gun can shoot through 2 layers of fence. Not saying your lying as I've never tested it with turrets, but it just wouldn't make sense for them to be the anomaly
@@Ze_Internet You're not saying I'm lying, you only said it's a "stupid and lazy design" ? Ok :) If you never tested it with turrets, maybe you should! :)
I am still pretty new to the game so i linger long hours over great videos like this. I just setup my first real auto-turret defences and was immediately raided a couple of hours later. Thing is though, people were coming and going to my base and just ignored my turrets. I placed them behind two chain link fences with good fields of fire. Lacking pythons i used SARs for the turrets, however when testing the damage naked, i took quite a while to kill me. I wonder if those fences reduces the damage a lot or if it's just because i use the SAR in the turrets. Thx for the videos, i love them! Keep em coming!
Fences don't reduce damage as far as I know, but turrets are a bit funny, and sar has very low damage already and shoots slow on turret. You want pythons or boltys
This is so useful! A video of HBHF would be amazing. Wonder if there are any unique ways of hiding the sensor? A video on that and other HBHF sensor stuff would be cool. As always, amazing content!!!
Normally it's difficult to find elevated terrain to hide the wires :) So usually it'd be placed somewhat hidden by the base's external foundations or high walls :)
I wouldn't mind a video about the hbf sensor. Been a long time since I've played rust, but your vids were my favorite. Was one of your first viewers on the Sultan!
@@notfred596 I did it cuz i get excited to show new stuff I discover. Never did it for the subs :) But I won't lie, that does give me more motivation. And also it was one weird way of getting to share my music. Heh. Thanks again man.
Would be excellent if you can make the hbhf video. Will be also good if you can manage to make a video with the most useful electric connections in rust for your new's bases or so.
hey man just came off a wipe using the temple base design and I'm looking forward to using it again and adding some chain-link fences to my compound love the vids btw.
Oh the HBF sensors are lovely one wipe I had external TC's extend past my external walls and I had the doors facing inwards toward my base, added the HBF sensors in the grass so they couldn't be seen easily anyone that walked up to my wall would have the doors open and shoot them, also linked it to my alarms so it would send me a message and I had their direction marked so the notification on rust+ would tell me the direction of incoming enemies. I never got raided and pretty much all targets were just naked lol, to be fair everyone on the server knew what I did so they didn't really try it lol. Oh yeah also, use incendiary rounds and put a bolty in just incase raiders try to bait it open they get a nice good amount of health taken and severe bleeding
Rigged up sensors (with garage door turrets) twice myself but raiders got around it by carefully maintaining distance from the sensor. Interested to see if there’s a configuration which handles that kind of scenario. Multiple sensors maybe?
Man..I'm just getting into RUst...I'm totally hooked. I don't have the patience for vanilla, so I always play 5x and 10x...but my base is NEVER there the following day. So, I've been trying to find ways to defend it and it seems like turrets are hte only way to go. the other traps just aren't good enough. Thanks for the hints!
Keep in mind those servers also yield more sulfur, which means more boom for raiding. Therefore you have to build big and fast otherwise you just get steamrolled.
that would be great and all but auto turret can't shoot through 2 chain link fences either i tested this a few months back, they can't destroy them but they have no use either, unless they changed and now they can shoot through it
i thought i’d finish this base up rq b4 i hop off but then the last roof piece wouldn’t place & i was tweaking out until 3 am trying to find a solution
I would love a basic tutorial/setup with electrical because I watched 3 tutorials and so far I dont get it, I always endup having the turrets not working and rely solely on shotgun traps and flame turret, you got a like from me on that one :)
I was wondering what you would do to make the hardest base to offline. I personally have not been onlined since i first started playing over a year ago. I have tried to make bases with 2 bunkers- haven’t been able to get a 3rd that makes sense. The deadman bunker makes sense and hidden pixel gap loot rooms also seem like good additions.
Basically ALL of my bases are built around that concept: You get offlined, you continue like nothing much happened because of hidden loot and bunkers. I think the "Trio Heaven" is my absolute best in that sense
Can confirm the temple/trio dream is great! Offlined last night by an 8 man (console though) and barely lost any loot! My partner got on at the end and defended from the shooting floor for 40 min until they gave up. We are adding more turrets but the compound and gatehouses are super scuffed from terrain/monuments. GLightz I’d LOVE to see a video where you would add external facing turrets to the temple/trio dream with and without gatehouses.
I am especially wondering if replacing the triangle frames above the bunkers with triangle floors would break the bunker. If not, then I could turn those floor tiles into turret cages facing the compound walls.
Am I wrong or did this use to work for HV rockets as well not long ago? I specifically tested it. But I can't get it to work anymore. Damage goes right through. Must be fixed. Arrows still work.
@@GameLightz Okay, I KNEW I wasn't crazy. I used that all over my last compound to make it a pain in the ass to raid and just questioned if I was being really stupid lmao Sad that they nerfed it.
you'll just have more blind spots. But blindspots don't matter since you don't have just one turret pod, and the blind spot should be pointing directly at the base, which makes it irrelevant.
1) Sneak past the turrets using the door frame for the chain link fences like how aloneintokyo did it. 2) Shoot out the hb sensors and the turrets are shut behind the doors for however long the owners are not around.
Not so easy. You don't have a view to the sensors until you're in the base, and they can be concealed under rocks as I've shown. Also, you'd have a ring of turret pods around the base (pretty much all of my bases have this). etc. You can't ever grubproof but you can come so close as makes no difference
tried a few things, nothing really works, since SAMS take up a ton of space and stuff you build around them will sometimes block the rockets. I should try some more tho
Can you possibly do a quick SAM turret protection tutorial? I got MLRS raided and the guys told me I needed to protect my SAM turrets better, but I don’t know how to do that without blocking the turrets visibility.
Would I make this video if turrets couldn't shoot through it? Come on :) At least as of right now, they can. If FP change that, as they changed chainlinks once before, there will be an update on the channel :) And no, splash isn't blocked by chainlinks
I doubt it very much. This seems quite balanced. It takes some mats, knowledge, and preparation to use this. And it only really protects against melee/arrows.
I'd rather use garage doors. Reason being: I just learned about an electric setup where the turrets are off so long as the door is closed. The turrets take a second to "boot up" so the garage door is kind of perfect :P
You can get walls very close to each other using halfgapping and widegapping techniques and with some clever engineering, get the effect you're talking about
@@GameLightz kk. Though not sure anymore that would be the way to do it as i recently saw turrets complettly hidden from sight. Question there would rather be if one could delay the heartbeat sensor trigger. So enemy feels safe, goes well into range and then gets deleted ^^.
I put turrets in triangles withre fences but I didn't know that the fences can't be removed now I don't have access to the turret how can I destroy the fance😅😢😅
Hbf sensor video would be great. Haven't seen a clean video of it online. But I'd do double doors opening inward before garage doors. It's faster.
I saw a clean vid of it last month worked like s charm
@@Oscarhagsjo source? Title of the video perhaps
double doors opening inwards can only be closed from the inside, but not opened
@@pyrex2177 rust+
@@pyrex2177 not true. I made if work with HFBs in the past.
my gatehouse design is slowly but surely becoming bulkier and more extreme thanks to these tips
Same
All gatehouse base please. :3
@@abitofapotato that’s just a village base which is also great
Protect the Protection! I am equally interested in seeing how you set up your HBHF and electrics. How you connect your batteries and simplify your circuitry.
why does this guy not have more subcribers? One of the best on TH-cam in my humble opinion! Nice Work, thanks for the content!
I'm just having fun mate :)
I always look forward to getting a notification that you posted a new video. This is still one of the most underrated rust channels out there. At the same time, I hope we get to utilize these tricks before everyone learns about them. Keep up the awesome videos!
I just ran a test with two layers of fences and much to my surprise not only did they block arrows... but completely absorbed all bullets, including explosive ammo. Nothing gets damaged when shooting through the rings. Meanwhile turrets can still fire and do damage from the inside. This has insane roof defense potential... I hope they don't patch this before I get to try it out next wipe 😅
They haven't patched it in well over a year, check the video date :)
@@GameLightz work on console ?
Fav Rust channel
i like the way you make these videos, short and plenty of information. reminds me of those "Quick fact" parts of a lot of shows.
Good to know. I had recently noticed my chain link fences weren't stopping projectiles. Thanks for the solution :)
Great video..didn’t know 2 fences are now needed instead of 1 so that’s helpful…also would love to see the implementation of the hbhf sensor
what a sweet clip! Thank you bro!
Thing is, putting frames around turrets sucks because it makes LOS points that anyone can exploit by keeping the frame between them and the turret. More frames compounds that problem. The best solution to prevent someone from grubbing turrets will still be more turrets I think. The way I see it if a single turret eats up 5minutes of anyone's time it's done its job. You're that much closer to being back online. An easy hbhf system that can be mass replicated would be huge to learn though.
If you see the example in the video, and in all of my base builds, I always have 3-4 sets of turrets around the compound guarding each other, so it's no biggy.
Much better than having some naked build up twig frames and destroy them I think.
I'd build this 10 out of 10 times in wipe
i like how this is like the most well put together video ever but the point of it is "chain link fence doofus"
I try :P
1:44 that text is bold af
lol
As always excellent video. I use the turrets behind doors with sensors and openers all the time. Sometimes I use garage door. Sometimes I use double door. Depends on the purpose. And you can have many doors as you want run off of one sensor. Also I use the old blocker trick to keep the door closed when the turret is out of ammo. Can't give away free guns.
I guess a video on the subject is due :)
@@GameLightz sounds like it. Looking forward to it, and as always I just may learn a new trick or two.
@@GameLightz We need this! :D
@@GameLightz yes please ;)
You can also connect door sensors through walls that way
i quickie over the subject of hbhf sensors would be a nice one for the newbies im sure! thanks for another great vid
But did you test if the auto turret is able to shoot at someone consistently through 2 chainlink fences
That was my concern too
Shhhhhh
Of course it shoots through. Perfectly and without issue.
@@GameLightz are you positive because I've done a crap ton of weapon testing and no gun can shoot through 2 layers of fence. Not saying your lying as I've never tested it with turrets, but it just wouldn't make sense for them to be the anomaly
@@Ze_Internet You're not saying I'm lying, you only said it's a "stupid and lazy design" ? Ok :)
If you never tested it with turrets, maybe you should! :)
The simple solutions are always the best
Wisest words have never been spoken.
Except for once. The wisest saying that was ever spoken goes:
"Wants to, does. Doesn't want to, doesn't do."
I am still pretty new to the game so i linger long hours over great videos like this. I just setup my first real auto-turret defences and was immediately raided a couple of hours later. Thing is though, people were coming and going to my base and just ignored my turrets. I placed them behind two chain link fences with good fields of fire. Lacking pythons i used SARs for the turrets, however when testing the damage naked, i took quite a while to kill me.
I wonder if those fences reduces the damage a lot or if it's just because i use the SAR in the turrets.
Thx for the videos, i love them! Keep em coming!
Fences don't reduce damage as far as I know, but turrets are a bit funny, and sar has very low damage already and shoots slow on turret.
You want pythons or boltys
@@GameLightz Thx mate. I changed them to Pythons.
i would like to see a video on the hbhf sensors, how to set them up.
I've been losing turrets through chain link fences, guess I finally know why
Thanks and sure, I'm looking to your hbf sensor video since I'm big fan of auto turrets.
please do the video on how to setup the motion sensor! I've been looking for it for a long long time
HBF sensor video would be awesome. never really understood how to get them to work
Turrets will not shoot through the double chainlink as well, I repeat do not double chainlink your turrets if you want them to still work.
They'll shoot perfectly well through double chainlink. And you can shoot them with bullets through also. It's only arrows and melee that are stopped.
This is so useful! A video of HBHF would be amazing. Wonder if there are any unique ways of hiding the sensor? A video on that and other HBHF sensor stuff would be cool. As always, amazing content!!!
If you place hbs between sheet metal wall and high stone wall it will hide it ;)
@@KEKnightCS1 like on the gatehouse you mean? That's a great idea! Thanks!
Precisely
Wasn't even aware or tried to deploy sensors on the ground 0_o that could be amazingly OP thanks for the tips!!
Normally it's difficult to find elevated terrain to hide the wires :)
So usually it'd be placed somewhat hidden by the base's external foundations or high walls :)
Yes for sensor tutorial pls
Was just wondering about this. I want to see tips for motion sensor. Mine are always so obvious
hbf sensor will be perfect , nice video .
I wouldn't mind a video about the hbf sensor. Been a long time since I've played rust, but your vids were my favorite. Was one of your first viewers on the Sultan!
No way!!! :)))))))
Dude that's over a year now. Almost 2 maybe.
Tons of love man, tons of love.
@@GameLightz I remember finding you and being disappointed you didnt have more subs, but kind of relieved because the bases were so good!
@@notfred596 I did it cuz i get excited to show new stuff I discover. Never did it for the subs :)
But I won't lie, that does give me more motivation.
And also it was one weird way of getting to share my music. Heh.
Thanks again man.
yo your videos are on point man thank you
im an old player but i was rarely using turrets so it was even helpful for me but i already thought of the sensor but not the double chainlink fences
Love it glightz :)
hbf sensor vid would be greatly appriciated
Would be excellent if you can make the hbhf video. Will be also good if you can manage to make a video with the most useful electric connections in rust for your new's bases or so.
hey man just came off a wipe using the temple base design and I'm looking forward to using it again and adding some chain-link fences to my compound love the vids btw.
Hey man, can the bullets from the turret still go through the two fences.
Of course
Good tips. When's the next "story build" coming out!? Or have you retired that format?
That's a random inspiration thing. I never "set out" to do that :)
Oh the HBF sensors are lovely one wipe I had external TC's extend past my external walls and I had the doors facing inwards toward my base, added the HBF sensors in the grass so they couldn't be seen easily anyone that walked up to my wall would have the doors open and shoot them, also linked it to my alarms so it would send me a message and I had their direction marked so the notification on rust+ would tell me the direction of incoming enemies. I never got raided and pretty much all targets were just naked lol, to be fair everyone on the server knew what I did so they didn't really try it lol. Oh yeah also, use incendiary rounds and put a bolty in just incase raiders try to bait it open they get a nice good amount of health taken and severe bleeding
NICE :)
damn a HBF video would be great :)
im never gonna live it down am i
Rigged up sensors (with garage door turrets) twice myself but raiders got around it by carefully maintaining distance from the sensor. Interested to see if there’s a configuration which handles that kind of scenario. Multiple sensors maybe?
If you have raiders incoming you should probably have a button that opens everything and leaves it open, circumventing the sensors
If you keep your turrets 3 foundations from your hbs nothing can be triggered from a distance
Man..I'm just getting into RUst...I'm totally hooked. I don't have the patience for vanilla, so I always play 5x and 10x...but my base is NEVER there the following day. So, I've been trying to find ways to defend it and it seems like turrets are hte only way to go. the other traps just aren't good enough. Thanks for the hints!
Keep in mind those servers also yield more sulfur, which means more boom for raiding. Therefore you have to build big and fast otherwise you just get steamrolled.
Someone took my turrets through a single chainlink fence with door and code lock - have a been a newb thinking the code lock would lock the door?
not sure I understand
always want to see more content from you
Damn, thanks! :)
great idea...i was a jail wall user till this vid....thankyou
im like i need to sleep. then i watch this guy you know the rest
I LOVE THAT.
I have youtubers like that, that I watch and fall asleep to cuz of their voice
@@GameLightz actually i meant you dont let me sleep i go try on rust 😁
@@reoztp OH lol.
Shit my bad
Those cheeky lil grubs.
CHEEKY
that would be great and all but auto turret can't shoot through 2 chain link fences either i tested this a few months back, they can't destroy them but they have no use either, unless they changed and now they can shoot through it
they shoot through it just fine
i thought i’d finish this base up rq b4 i hop off but then the last roof piece wouldn’t place & i was tweaking out until 3 am trying to find a solution
I would love a basic tutorial/setup with electrical because I watched 3 tutorials and so far I dont get it, I always endup having the turrets not working and rely solely on shotgun traps and flame turret, you got a like from me on that one :)
Thanks for sharing man!
being that guy only makes sense if you're gonna raid but most of those weirdos sit there for hours griefing turrets for no reason
they want a free gun and ammo :)
Can a turret shoot with full damage a player when the turret shoot trough 3-4 layers of chain ?
Looking forward to the HBF Sensor Vid :D
I was wondering what you would do to make the hardest base to offline. I personally have not been onlined since i first started playing over a year ago. I have tried to make bases with 2 bunkers- haven’t been able to get a 3rd that makes sense. The deadman bunker makes sense and hidden pixel gap loot rooms also seem like good additions.
Basically ALL of my bases are built around that concept: You get offlined, you continue like nothing much happened because of hidden loot and bunkers.
I think the "Trio Heaven" is my absolute best in that sense
Can confirm the temple/trio dream is great! Offlined last night by an 8 man (console though) and barely lost any loot! My partner got on at the end and defended from the shooting floor for 40 min until they gave up. We are adding more turrets but the compound and gatehouses are super scuffed from terrain/monuments. GLightz I’d LOVE to see a video where you would add external facing turrets to the temple/trio dream with and without gatehouses.
I am especially wondering if replacing the triangle frames above the bunkers with triangle floors would break the bunker. If not, then I could turn those floor tiles into turret cages facing the compound walls.
@@londorsblade7241 It will not break the bunkers, no.
I don't play this game but I watch a lot of people do it.
Could you use the gap trick to put two fences really close? Would it still stop the arrow?
I think it would, but I will need to test it. I think it'll likely leave exploitable angles
Am I wrong or did this use to work for HV rockets as well not long ago? I specifically tested it. But I can't get it to work anymore. Damage goes right through. Must be fixed. Arrows still work.
It did, but now splash goes through.
@@GameLightz Okay, I KNEW I wasn't crazy. I used that all over my last compound to make it a pain in the ass to raid and just questioned if I was being really stupid lmao
Sad that they nerfed it.
Isn’t there a way to wallstack two chainlink fences really close to each other to avoid the double door frame small blind spot for turrets?
you'll just have more blind spots.
But blindspots don't matter since you don't have just one turret pod, and the blind spot should be pointing directly at the base, which makes it irrelevant.
0:44 WHO WOULD HAVE "THUNK" LMAOOOO
1) Sneak past the turrets using the door frame for the chain link fences like how aloneintokyo did it.
2) Shoot out the hb sensors and the turrets are shut behind the doors for however long the owners are not around.
Not so easy.
You don't have a view to the sensors until you're in the base, and they can be concealed under rocks as I've shown.
Also, you'd have a ring of turret pods around the base (pretty much all of my bases have this).
etc.
You can't ever grubproof but you can come so close as makes no difference
perfect !!! i like this style of guide !!!!
Yes on the HBHF vid
Do you have any ideas for how to place SAMs specifically for MLRS while being grub proof?
tried a few things, nothing really works, since SAMS take up a ton of space and stuff you build around them will sometimes block the rockets.
I should try some more tho
Does this also count for spear poking? That's the 2nd way people will get at your turrets
One chainlink is enough against spears
Can you possibly do a quick SAM turret protection tutorial? I got MLRS raided and the guys told me I needed to protect my SAM turrets better, but I don’t know how to do that without blocking the turrets visibility.
I tried several things, nothing seems to really work.
F7 report it, because MLRS is basically a cheat for zergs to delete trios/duos/solos
if you cant shoot the turret through two chain walls or whatever.. wouldnt that stop it from shooting other people?
nope
Pretty sweet trick.
So if the dual fences are stopping projectiles won't they stop the turret from hitting them aswell
they only stop arrows and melee
Ok I was just confused on it that makes sense though
Yep im subbing! Hopefully in the future you make console tips too!
I don't even have a television at home :>
Grubbers hate this man!
eKostiK!!!!! Dude have I got some nutty stuff to show u
The old school trick was dope
Does this not work anymore?
Can you make video for automatically open close & doors every 5 sec
It's possible, but I don't think it's that useful. Grubs will compound bow the turrets.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked turrets CANNOT shoot through 2 gates/fences.
Easy enough to check
@@roboticunclephil There are some angles where gates will block turrets from acquiring targets, but I never said to use gates, so it's good
2 layers of chain link. Who would have thought?
hbf sensor vid please
Can the turrets themselves succesfully shoot through double chainlink though?
And do they block rockets?
Would I make this video if turrets couldn't shoot through it? Come on :)
At least as of right now, they can.
If FP change that, as they changed chainlinks once before, there will be an update on the channel :)
And no, splash isn't blocked by chainlinks
@@GameLightz Touche.
Thanks for answering.
you can try but you will never stop the grub 👑
That is true. Grenades will still work.
So can the turret still shoot through the fences if players cant
yes
HBO sensor would be great.
Thanks
HBO sensor tells u when content is rated R
If you cant shoot through 2 chain link fences then how can a turret shoot through it? doesnt that make this pointless?
Gamelightz can you answer this
It's a bullet. Bullet go through.
Funnily enough, even when chainlink protected turrets from player bullets, the turret bullets still went through.
@@GameLightz You're the best!
@@thempror1 Thanks I'll take that :P
I have heard of turrets put behind Ramps too. How do these fair?
Ramps don't protect them.
The ramps only serve to prevent people pushing through to the room where the turret is.
thx u man!)
Aren't they going to patch this too?
I doubt it very much.
This seems quite balanced. It takes some mats, knowledge, and preparation to use this. And it only really protects against melee/arrows.
Next video 7 months from now: triple chain link fence!
Does the double chain link fence stop bullets as well?
no, and splash also
Double chain link fence also block bullets?
sometimes, it depends on relative distances.
why would u need a door if its grub proof? does rockets go through?
Door where? What point in the video?
Ty ty ty! Good stuff!
yes PLEASE to the sensor tutorial
Another good video
I appreciate that
Hbf sensor + hq doors. garage doors too slow.
I'd rather use garage doors. Reason being:
I just learned about an electric setup where the turrets are off so long as the door is closed. The turrets take a second to "boot up" so the garage door is kind of perfect :P
So the turret can shoot through double chain link fence?
yep
Will the turrets shoot through both chain fences
yes
@@GameLightz W channel for responding questions at 2 years old video. Ur the best bro.
please make a video for the HBF sensor PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I've been wanting to, im just sick so i cant record
What about the Cell Wall and Door?
I mention those in the video :)
They're a big no no
is it possible to wall stack in Rust? So that you could place two of these chainlinkfences and then a garage door with sensor close behind each other?
You can get walls very close to each other using halfgapping and widegapping techniques and with some clever engineering, get the effect you're talking about
@@GameLightz kk. Though not sure anymore that would be the way to do it as i recently saw turrets complettly hidden from sight. Question there would rather be if one could delay the heartbeat sensor trigger. So enemy feels safe, goes well into range and then gets deleted ^^.
i would love an hbf video
I put turrets in triangles withre fences but I didn't know that the fences can't be removed now I don't have access to the turret how can I destroy the fance😅😢😅
lol :P
That's why I put a garage door to access the turret in the last example there.