Remember Madison that most of your reaction is emotional and your viewers can share them. Those of us who have seen this relive those emotions. Your commentary is just right .
Jake was an example of either stand for something, or fall for anything. He accepted like a man in the very last instant, and spurred his horse out from under him. He spared his friend the agony of having to hang his pal. THis movie is so dang good.
Your comments about storytelling hit home. I think about films of the 30s, 40s and 50s during the old studio system. The backbone of the studios were the "B" movies. These were lower budget productions that were made to fill the movie theaters need to run two films, when folks went out weekly to movies and expected a full night of viewing. The B productions were just as solid in storytelling as the main bigger budget film. Today many of the B pictures are regarded more highly than the big budget offerings. The talent doing the B pictures were the same, the screenwriters were top notch and many brilliant directors made their way to favor by doing B pictures. They also were given more freedom in getting the B picture done quickly. Today, movies are massively budgeted but the foundations in writing and storytelling are often lacking.
Woodrow Call : I guess it's our fault, we shoulda shot sooner. Augustus 'Gus' McCrae : I don't want to start thinking, Woodrow, about all the things that we shoulda done for this good man.
High quality in anything is not easy to find so that is why we appreciate it when we find it. There are many shows I would rather watch 50 times over than just something new which is usually quite disappointing👏👏👏
I very much appreciate your thoughts about storytelling and the depth we are missing out on in so much of current cinema and television production. All the minor characters have three dimensional identity. The French saloon keeper back in Lonesome Dove, the old Mexican bandit who died back over the border from LD, the characters in Arkansas, the villain brothers and their backstory, Clara's invalid husband, DeeBoot, the cooks, Clara's Mexican hand, Clara's young daughters are given depth and a sense of their evolving autonomy. It's amazing what was done with the script. It is like a gourmet 6 course meal as opposed to eating bad Chinese food.
I'm glad you're enjoying this series. It's good to see someone reacting to this. I've long considered this my favorite western. I've seen it many times since I was a little kid and my dad had it on vhs.
A little St. Patrick's Day note here. Angelica Huston grew up in County Galway, Ireland, when her dad, legendary director John Huston lived there. Robert Duvall in LD was helping her get into a sad mood for one of their scenes together, so he serenaded her with the Irish song, "Galway Bay", which brought her to tears.
Great honest, and emotional reaction, thank you Madison, and yes, we all enjoy watching along with you, no need to apologize for being immersed, and involved in such a wonderful series, this episode, was extremely sad, and heart heavy, I am very glad to see your enjoying this mini-series, this is making want to get the DVD set again and start my Lonesome Dove collection, can't wait for next week, and watching more with you, thank you Madison, hope all is well there with you, take care, oohhh, and I am really hoping, after this, you will want to see "Return to Lonesome Dove" also a great mini-series, and it ties up some loose ends from this series, please check it out some time.....👍👍👍👍👍
You're doing an amazing job and thank you for reacting to this stellar series! I think it really says something about today's movies & TV when there are so many reactors like yourself who are going back to watching older stuff. Of course I grew up watching TV and movies from the 70s, 80s, and 90s so I know how good it is. Deets was such a good guy! It still hurts to see his character killed off. Gus was and still is my favorite character. Love how much he cares about and takes care of Laurie.
I have to say this, Ma'am: it makes me happy to see that you've been crying on this one at least half as much as I did. It's been 30 years since I first read the novel. I've read it 10 times since and I've watched the films at least five. And I still cry in a lots of those moments.
You should consider watching Comanche Moon after this, it's a prequel made in 2008. It shows the main characters here as younger versions of themselves starring Karl Urban (Woodrow), Steve Zahn (Gus), and how they became friends. Steve Zahn did a fantastic job bringing Gus's character to life similar to the way that Duvall did in this series.
I remember first watching this with my parents on the VHS box set. My mom said when her and my dad saw it originally it was the first time she'd seen him cry. Now we have phrases like, "well Lonesome Dove!" for whenever characters in a show/movie happen to all conveniently converge in the same locations.
Everyone in my Texan family always loved this movie. My nephew was young when it came out & he loved Gus so much he named his firstborn after him years later, Phoenix Augustus.
A great series.. Gus and Call were Former Texas Rangers. Not just old cowboys. They had beaten the Comanches and settled Texas. In part 4 they are moving a giant herd of cattle into Sioux territory. For another movie on the Texas Rangers and the Comanches, is the Searchers. staring John Wayne and a teenage Natalie Wood, a great but grim movie.
I was around 16 when I first read the book. Devoured it for hours at a time in a hammock by the shore, until I got to the last section and realized if I kept reading I was going to finish it that day. I so didn't want it to end that I just closed the book and didn't return to it for a couple weeks.
As you've said before, so much death, and messed up lives, but what a trip! Your thematic analysis was as perceptive as always. Going to McDonald's after a great meal is a good analogy. I put all zombies, superheroes and vampires in that category, especially after viewing a true classic. Most Westerns too, but this is a worthy exception -so many layers to this for sure, that's what's up girl.
Haven't seen this in 30 plus years.., watching your reactions tho the past 3 episodes has moved me as it did then. Thank you. Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones are National Treasures. Angelica Houston as well...Dianne Lane she'd her Brat Pack image and has been a solid Actress ever since! As with all your reactions, I laugh, cry, get angry, and love.!
I love your analogies, I feel you have grasped and are spot on. I enjoyed the movie many years back and several times since, and you watching and commenting and reviewing is only making it better. Thank you and good job.
Another great video! Also, you look very lovely in glasses. Hope you're having a great start to the weekend and a happy St. Patrick's Day. It's funny how so many people drink this day, when St. Patrick was staunchly against drinking and drunkenness.
I have the dvd. Occassionally i'll plan to watch it in 2 sittings but always watch it one setting instead. I love the book too. The movie did it justice which is veey rare. Larry McNurtry was such a great author. "Terms of Endearment" with Shirley Maclaine, Jack Nicholson & Debra Winger was adapted from another of his novels. He knows how to wrench the tears from you haha
Centennial is fantastic, esp the first 4 episodes with Pasquinel, and the then the cattle drive episode..... I consider it second only to LD in tv westerns
The book gives you answers the movie won't to all the questions you've had about secondary characters. Plus - I wonder if you'll see, having read the book, why some lines from the book are delivered by different characters in the movie.
A lot of people talk about the differences between infatuation, unrequited love, and true love. But I prefer to refer to "true love" as lasting love. To say true love, kind of implies that the other 2 types aren't actually love. But the emotion you feel is REAL in all 3 cases. I remember this woman who sat down next to me on a 2 hour flight. She was WONDERFUL. She was a lot like 70's singer Toni Tennille. Just talking to that woman, was the most exhilarating platonic experience of my life. She lived 1100 miles away, and had a boyfriend, so I didn't have the chance to see if it was the type of love that would be requited, and would last. But that exhilaration I experienced was 1000% REAL😍.
Your summation of unrequited relationships is the gist of the story : Woodrow and Maggie; Woodrow and his son; Gus and Claire; July and Ellie; Ellie and Dee; Big Swede and Ellie; Dish and Laurie; Laurie and the saloon proprietor in Lonesome Dove; Laurie and Gus; Laurie and Jake.
I feel like this is affecting you more than it did me. A great show and am so happy to see it the second time with you. This is a story about real humans trying their best to cope with this journey we call life. Thank you and be well. 😄
In the scene where Deets waves back at Newt, was the scene where Deets knew something was going to happen. The little things like that which is why this was one of the best westerns ever. And remember, there is The Return To Lonesome with all the same characters and new actors including Jon Voight, Barbara Hershey, Oliver Reed, from the Gladiator movie, 2000. The next reaction I'll say who really comes back with the actors so is not to spoil the ending, Part 4 to Lonesome Dove.
Great reaction I belatedly watched, as well as insightful and trenchant comments. As to McDonalds, I would certainly never describe them as fine eating but I would like to make one point. Back in the 70's, their fries were about the most delicious you could find, when they used beef tallow to cook them.
I tried to write my thesis on the novel with focus on Gus being the embodiment of Thoreau's ideals and Call - those of Franklinian pragmatism (but both of them with tragic flaws to them), and thus being the forces that conquered the wild west and built the America. Well, my university wouldn't hear of a thesis on "a western". So I quit my university with a BA and gave up on the idea - I don't want their degree if that's how they see the literature they haven't even read.
So great. So happy you're reacting to this! One of my fave miniseries ever. Hey, a totally different type of role/movie of Robert Duvall: NETWORK. Oh my gosh, that's a must-see. One of the greatest ever, definitely of the 70s. He's great, Faye Dunaway is great, the whole movie is fantastic. It's a satire, not a western. But it shows you his range! This, The Godfather, Network.....Apocalypse Now. Great Santini, The Apostle, Tender Mercies, Colors.....the guy is right up there with De Niro, Nicholson, Hoffman, Pacino and Hackman. The Magnificent Six.
Great reaction, Madison! To get the full understanding, you need to read the novel. I know you have a movie reaction channel, but on your own time, please read or listen to the book. My favorite American novel is " The Grapes Of Wrath". Lonesome Dove is number 2. Yes, there is a sequel novel " Streets Of Laredo" and two prequel novels "Dead Man's Walk", i.e. how Call & His came to be rangers and "Comanche Moon", at the tail end of their ranger careers and how they came to Lonesome Dove.
Didn't know Robert Urich was in this. He ended up tragically dying too soon in both this, and in real life (cancer at 55). I wouldn't have been so quick to disbelieve him in this. He was outnumbered, so he had to wait until they came across people he could trust.
I recall in the book that he had a lot of money with him from his gambling winnings, and he was worried that the Suggs would eventually kill him for it, so he stayed low key, hoping to find an opportunity to get away from them. I don't know why they omitted it in the film, but before he was hanged, he told Newt he could keep whatever he found in his saddle bags, knowing that Newt would be shocked by finding all that money (I think it was around $800, which is a lot back then).
@@catherinelw9365 Hmmm, finding that much money on him would have made me MORE suspicious that he might have been a thief. And had possibly killed for it. I would have wanted to find someone to corroborate his story about winning that gambling. Of course, if he was hundreds of miles away from the town where he won it, that would have been impractical. That would have definitely been a difficult dilemma, deciding what to do with him in a place where there were no jails. If he WAS guilty, he might kill you in your sleep. There were probably a lot of innocent people back then who got hung, because of that fear. Your best bet for survival back then was to live in a small town, and make a lot of friends who would vouch for you, if you were ever falsely accused.
Absolutely fantastic reaction(s) to this epic from someone who truly appreciates how special it is. The prequels that McMurtry eventually wrote are very entertaining, well written, and definitely worth checking out. I never could bring myself to watch the tv movie adaptations (because- recasting). As far as novelists go, Larry McMurtry was considered one of the finest writers of western (and non-genre) fiction of the 20th century. A few more film adaptations of his that happen to be great are: The Last Picture Show (huge cast including Jeff Bridges) Hud (Paul Newman) (McMurtry’s first film adaptation)) Terms of Endearment (Shirley MacLaine, Debra winger, Jack Nicolson)
As soon as you finish the TV show, I suggest you set down something else for a few days and pick up this Pulitzer winning book. Larry McMurtry's prose will further transport you into the settings, and into the lives of the characters.
"I never see you having accidents with ugly girls!" has got to be one of the best comeback lines ever! I laugh every time. That and "I won't marry again. I haven't got enough respect for men."
It's too bad you didn't show the whole scene when Woodrow charged up and dismounted and connected a punch on the Army scout all in one motion - Pure Poetry in Motion. No apologies for reacting/processing, it's great to see your genuine reactions. This is an epic classic, and you'll get a copy for your own library, I'm sure. Yes, lotsa unrequited love - hence the title.
Deets was modeled after a real-life cowboy named Bose Ikard, born a slave, Ikard rode for years after his emancipation with cattle barons Charles Goodnight and Oliver Loving, who were the inspiration for Gus and Woodrow.
That reminds me of another book called "The Color of Lightning" by Pauline Giles, based on the life of another ex-slave who moved to Texas called Britt Johnson. I believe the story of Britt Johnson is fairly well known in Texas. I don't want to spoil the story by going into details but it is pretty amazing. It is good book.
I don't think Jake Spoon forgot Lorena, I think with his imminent death as an outlaw it was like "cut her off from me, for her sake." Perhaps I'm giving him too much credit.
Whatever you do, skip the awful name-only sequel, "Return to Lonesome Dove", which CBS put together as a cash grab without the participation of Larry McMurtry. Instead, I would recommend "Streets of Laredo", which McMurtry co-wrote and which stars James Garner as an older Woodrow Call. "Dead Man's Walk" features a younger Gus and Woodrow just starting out as Texas Rangers, and it's interesting although extremely downbeat. The final mini-series "Comanche Moon" , about Gus and Woodrow's middle years, runs hot and cold and has both pretty good and really bad aspects.
Great reactions you're having to this mini-series, Madison, but you're going to have a lot of questions about what happened to the characters when they were young and what happened to them afterwards. Fortunately, there are four movies that explain all of it. In the storyline's chronological order, they are: Dead Man's Walk (1995), Comanche Moon (1997), Lonesome Dove (1989, 4 parts), Return to Lonesome Dove (1993, 4 parts), and Streets of Laredo (1993). So, as you can see, Madison, your upcoming reaction to part 4 is not "the last one." There is still a whole lot more to watch before you know all of this epic story. 👍🙂 Enjoy the journey, and I hope you get over your allergies soon. ❤
Frontier justice was swift and brutal... it had to be, to make bad actors like Suggs think twice about murdering with impunity. It wasn't just that Call and McRae were former lawmen... in large territories where lawmen were sparse, good men with guns were usually the only protection against bad men with guns. Where the law was involved, and enforcement was difficult, it was the 'dead or alive' bounty hunter (killer) system that further put pressure on 'wanted' criminals, and set the example for others considering a life of crime, so the west could become 'civilized'. As demonstrated by Dee Boot and Jake Spoon, there was little 'gray area', in this system, and it surely wasn't perfect, but it largely worked.
Sorry, I'm double-dipping here, but I finally got to watch. "Lonesome Dove did it first.", referring to the GoT death count. 😂 Don't feel bad for not talking. It's like watching a movie with a quiet friend. That just means you make it count when you do. 👍 Yeah, a lot of unrequited and regret here. It does aggravate and sadden me to watch this movie, but that's life. Plus, in fiction, your highs can only be as high as your lows can be low...if that makes any sense. 🤷🏻♂️ If you really want to go on a Lonesome Dove deep dive, which I'm totally here for, watch Return to Lonesome Dove (I hated it at first, but rewatched it recently and it's not bad), Lonesome Dove The Series (which is kind of boring, but sets up the next chapter), and Lonesome Dove The Outlaw Years (no spoilers). Sorry I went on a rant here. The cold medicine has really kicked in. Lol ✌️
The best sequel to Lonesome Dove, imho, is Streets of Laredo in which the main characters are Pea Eye Parker and an agin Woodrow Cole. Pea Eye is a real hero.
I don't see Lonesome Dove as an unrequited love story (but I'll think about it). For me, it's a perfect illustration of life. I'm in my forties and 'unrequited love' is just part of life. Somone loves you more than you love them, somone runs and you follow stupidly, the timing isn't right, you marry somone you don't really love. I've been seeing all this over the past 20 years.
In your previous Lonesome Dove video, I compared LD to Lord of the Rings. One of the key factors of why LotR was so good was the amount of time it took Tolkien to write it. He didn't just whip it out. He took decades until he was satisfied with it. I believe the same applies for Lonesome Dove. McMurtry originally intended this for John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda but it got shelved after Wayne rejected it. I think McMurty did similar with this, stewing the story in his mind until he perfected it. You analogy with McDonalds is on point. Most stories produced today are rushed out the door like fast food. If only more authors took their time, we might see better stories but the people in charge of Hollywood now? Ain't happenin'. My two cents, anyway. :)
Madison, please watch "They Call Me Trinity" & "They Still Call Me Trinity". these two movies give an entirely different spin on Western/Comedy. i honestly think you'll fall in love with the characters and their story
Have several boxes of tissue ready for the finale. The funniest line to watch out for: "I like being a bachelor, Gus." "That's fine, Pea. I'm sure it's all part of God's plan that you ARE one!"
What is life actually about? Hmm. I'd say it's about love, first and foremost (all types of love). It's about courage. And it's about taking responsibility. We admire people who love deeply, have courage, and take responsibility. Along with that comes loyalty. And self-sacrifice for those you love. We are horrified and instinctively repelled by people who are loveless and who take no responsibility. We are not very fond of cowards, because they can't be relied upon. All that is touched on powerfully in this story, and it's what makes it so moving. You mentioned that Deets didn't deserve to die that way. True, he didn't. But as Clint Eastwood says in "Unforgiven", "Deserves got nothin' to do with it." And it doesn't. Bad things happen to good people all the time. Good things happen too. Why? There's no way to answer that. It's just the way it is. You do the best you can and carry on.
Gus and Woodrow went thru a lot of change Mexican war Texas rangers against the Comanche Outlaws Civil war Lonesome dove The trip to Montana etc From flintlock thru percussion to cartridge guns big changes in their lifetime.
Your smiles on the happy parts....and tears on the sad parts .... This show just keeps getting better and better doesn't it? (And worse and worse.) By the way, you aren't wearing a cowboy hat for this episode!
I think July Johnson's wife Ellie was what is now called a "borderline personality". Life seemed empty to her except for her over-idealized romantic obsession about one man, Dee Boot, who was clearly an unstable individual himself, on a destructive path that would not end well. She cared nothing for anyone else, not even her own children. Her early death was very likely, given her state of mind, and there was clearly nothing that could be done about it. The Buffalo hunter who got fixated on her was probably not around women much at all, and he became similarly obsessed with her...just because she was a female who happened to be in his presence (on the riverboat), I'd bet. She became his ideal of perfection. The whole thing was just sad, all around. July was lucky to end up at Claire's ranch. Nice to see *someone* have some good luck in this story! I found Peach detestable. She was the local busybody and bully in July's little town, intimidating softer and kinder people than herself into doing her will for no other reason than her own need to control and dominate everyone. And relishing in every bit of bad gossip she could find. People like her are a curse on the rest of humanity. She treated everyone just like she did that rooster whose neck she wrung. She had no mercy in her.
one thing that always puzzled me about LD is they chase Dan and Jake initially for horse theft and then do similar to the Indians who stole the horses when Deetz dies, yet they themselves stole a ton of horses down in Mexico just before the cattle drive...... being ex-rangers they seem very anti-horse theft.... but do it themselves ..... or is it that it just doesn't;t count when its Mexican horses?
I think it’s that they know those horses were stolen to begin with, so in their minds they’re not stealing their property but taking back what was stolen. (Even though they can’t return them to their rightful owners) They can’t hold Pedro Flores and his men accountable like they do with the band that Jake is with simply because Pedro Flores’s gang is too powerful and they don’t have the numbers to do so.
It has none of my favorite "western" actors in it but it is easily my favorite western. I've seen it many times and hope to see it many more. I've enjoyed watching it with you, thank you. I too, avoid McNasty's at all costs.
Remember Madison that most of your reaction is emotional and your viewers can share them. Those of us who have seen this relive those emotions. Your commentary is just right .
And I always cry when Gus says "I don't even want to think about all the things we should have done for this man."
This.
Everytime I watch this, it's like seeing a old friend. 🖖🏾👍🏾
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Perfect way to put it.💫
And I always get emotional about seeing old friends.
What a show.
Jake was an example of either stand for something, or fall for anything. He accepted like a man in the very last instant, and spurred his horse out from under him. He spared his friend the agony of having to hang his pal. THis movie is so dang good.
Your comments about storytelling hit home. I think about films of the 30s, 40s and 50s during the old studio system. The backbone of the studios were the "B" movies. These were lower budget productions that were made to fill the movie theaters need to run two films, when folks went out weekly to movies and expected a full night of viewing. The B productions were just as solid in storytelling as the main bigger budget film. Today many of the B pictures are regarded more highly than the big budget offerings. The talent doing the B pictures were the same, the screenwriters were top notch and many brilliant directors made their way to favor by doing B pictures. They also were given more freedom in getting the B picture done quickly. Today, movies are massively budgeted but the foundations in writing and storytelling are often lacking.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it" - Woodrow F***in Call🤘
"Hell boys I'd much rather be hung by my friends than a bunch of damned strangers" - Jake F***In Spoon. 😊
"Ain't much of a crime, whackin' a surly bartender" - Augustus F***in McCrae.
"He wrote my name on it. I can read that." - Lorena F***in Wood
Woodrow Call : I guess it's our fault, we shoulda shot sooner.
Augustus 'Gus' McCrae : I don't want to start thinking, Woodrow, about all the things that we shoulda done for this good man.
"Eighty miles captain,." Joshua G.damn Deets
Great reaction, Madison. Your thoughts on contemporary ineffectual story telling are spot on.
High quality in anything is not easy to find so that is why we appreciate it when we find it. There are many shows I would rather watch 50 times over than just something new which is usually quite disappointing👏👏👏
I very much appreciate your thoughts about storytelling and the depth we are missing out on in so much of current cinema and television production. All the minor characters have three dimensional identity. The French saloon keeper back in
Lonesome Dove, the old Mexican bandit who died back over the border from LD, the characters in Arkansas, the villain brothers and their backstory, Clara's invalid husband, DeeBoot, the cooks, Clara's Mexican hand, Clara's young daughters are given depth and a sense of their evolving autonomy. It's amazing what was done with the script. It is like a gourmet 6 course meal as opposed to eating bad Chinese food.
I'm glad you're enjoying this series. It's good to see someone reacting to this. I've long considered this my favorite western. I've seen it many times since I was a little kid and my dad had it on vhs.
A little St. Patrick's Day note here. Angelica Huston grew up in County Galway, Ireland, when her dad, legendary director John Huston lived there. Robert Duvall in LD was helping her get into a sad mood for one of their scenes together, so he serenaded her with the Irish song, "Galway Bay", which brought her to tears.
Great honest, and emotional reaction, thank you Madison, and yes, we all enjoy watching along with you, no need to apologize for being immersed, and involved in such a wonderful series, this episode, was extremely sad, and heart heavy, I am very glad to see your enjoying this mini-series, this is making want to get the DVD set again and start my Lonesome Dove collection, can't wait for next week, and watching more with you, thank you Madison, hope all is well there with you, take care, oohhh, and I am really hoping, after this, you will want to see "Return to Lonesome Dove" also a great mini-series, and it ties up some loose ends from this series, please check it out some time.....👍👍👍👍👍
You're doing an amazing job and thank you for reacting to this stellar series! I think it really says something about today's movies & TV when there are so many reactors like yourself who are going back to watching older stuff. Of course I grew up watching TV and movies from the 70s, 80s, and 90s so I know how good it is.
Deets was such a good guy! It still hurts to see his character killed off.
Gus was and still is my favorite character. Love how much he cares about and takes care of Laurie.
It's rough sometimes, but it's such a good story. You're doing great with this one, Madison. 😊
I have to say this, Ma'am: it makes me happy to see that you've been crying on this one at least half as much as I did. It's been 30 years since I first read the novel. I've read it 10 times since and I've watched the films at least five. And I still cry in a lots of those moments.
You should consider watching Comanche Moon after this, it's a prequel made in 2008. It shows the main characters here as younger versions of themselves starring Karl Urban (Woodrow), Steve Zahn (Gus), and how they became friends. Steve Zahn did a fantastic job bringing Gus's character to life similar to the way that Duvall did in this series.
I remember first watching this with my parents on the VHS box set. My mom said when her and my dad saw it originally it was the first time she'd seen him cry. Now we have phrases like, "well Lonesome Dove!" for whenever characters in a show/movie happen to all conveniently converge in the same locations.
I know guys like Woodrow. It's not that he didn't love Nutes mom, or Nute. He doesn't want to admit it. It's too painful.
Everyone in my Texan family always loved this movie. My nephew was young when it came out & he loved Gus so much he named his firstborn after him years later, Phoenix Augustus.
Poor kid
A great series.. Gus and Call were Former Texas Rangers. Not just old cowboys. They had beaten the Comanches and settled Texas. In part 4 they are moving a giant herd of cattle into Sioux territory. For another movie on the Texas Rangers and the Comanches, is the Searchers. staring John Wayne and a teenage Natalie Wood, a great but grim movie.
love the searchers, it's tremendous
@@jimmorrish6771 its on par with this one for sure.
I was around 16 when I first read the book. Devoured it for hours at a time in a hammock by the shore, until I got to the last section and realized if I kept reading I was going to finish it that day. I so didn't want it to end that I just closed the book and didn't return to it for a couple weeks.
As you've said before, so much death, and messed up lives, but what a trip! Your thematic analysis was as perceptive as always. Going to McDonald's after a great meal is a good analogy. I put all zombies, superheroes and vampires in that category, especially after viewing a true classic. Most Westerns too, but this is a worthy exception -so many layers to this for sure, that's what's up girl.
A BEAUTIFUL REACTION TO A BEAUTIFUL SERIES. BE PROUD OF YOURSELF.
I've seen this series probably 10 times so far love it every time it gets better believe it every time
Great reaction. This episode was both beautiful and brutal. Deets was the best. Watching him die gets me every time. 😢
Deets was more fatherly to Newt than Call was. ☹
Newt getting all flusteted when Lorie thanks him for bringing breakfast-- 🥰
Yes, yes! You are nailing the emotions and motivations of these wonderful characters.
Haven't seen this in 30 plus years.., watching your reactions tho the past 3 episodes has moved me as it did then. Thank you. Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones are National Treasures. Angelica Houston as well...Dianne Lane she'd her Brat Pack image and has been a solid Actress ever since! As with all your reactions, I laugh, cry, get angry, and love.!
The guy who did whatever Ellie wanted was Big Zwey. The little guy accompanying them was Luke.
I love your analogies, I feel you have grasped and are spot on. I enjoyed the movie many years back and several times since, and you watching and commenting and reviewing is only making it better. Thank you and good job.
This was the most action packed of the four episodes should be fun watching your review. 😊
Definitely. This is also the episode Robert Urich and Robert Duvall point to when asked about their favorite roles
Thank you for reacting. Hope to see this on more channels.
Another great video! Also, you look very lovely in glasses. Hope you're having a great start to the weekend and a happy St. Patrick's Day. It's funny how so many people drink this day, when St. Patrick was staunchly against drinking and drunkenness.
"The Stand" was a 4 part tv series adapted from an early Stephen King novel that's well worth watching.
Loved your comments at the end; my feelings exactly.
I have the dvd. Occassionally i'll plan to watch it in 2 sittings but always watch it one setting instead. I love the book too. The movie did it justice which is veey rare. Larry McNurtry was such a great author. "Terms of Endearment" with Shirley Maclaine, Jack Nicholson & Debra Winger was adapted from another of his novels. He knows how to wrench the tears from you haha
Look at “Centennial” A Mini Series in the late 1970’s. Also, Steven Spielberg’s “Into The West” From 2005. Thanks!
Centennial is fantastic, esp the first 4 episodes with Pasquinel, and the then the cattle drive episode..... I consider it second only to LD in tv westerns
The book gives you answers the movie won't to all the questions you've had about secondary characters. Plus - I wonder if you'll see, having read the book, why some lines from the book are delivered by different characters in the movie.
A lot of people talk about the differences between infatuation, unrequited love, and true love. But I prefer to refer to "true love" as lasting love. To say true love, kind of implies that the other 2 types aren't actually love. But the emotion you feel is REAL in all 3 cases. I remember this woman who sat down next to me on a 2 hour flight. She was WONDERFUL. She was a lot like 70's singer Toni Tennille. Just talking to that woman, was the most exhilarating platonic experience of my life. She lived 1100 miles away, and had a boyfriend, so I didn't have the chance to see if it was the type of love that would be requited, and would last. But that exhilaration I experienced was 1000% REAL😍.
Luv your time on these classic's.
A lovely reaction, a beautiful lady and a good western. Can't ask fer much more than that.
Your summation of unrequited relationships is the gist of the story : Woodrow and Maggie; Woodrow and his son; Gus and Claire; July and Ellie; Ellie and Dee; Big Swede and Ellie; Dish and Laurie; Laurie and the saloon proprietor in Lonesome Dove; Laurie and Gus; Laurie and Jake.
REGRET ive always felt the word regret summed up this movie as all the people are dealing with regrets of things they did or wish they had done
Beautiful outro, and I'm digging that awesome denim shirt.
I've watched Lonesome Dove at least 10 times over the years. Great series.
only 10?😁
@@jefferywarburton2116 minimum 10 times, probably more.
Great watching this show with you
I totally agree about the hollowness of modern movies.
You are one of Best reactors on TH-cam. Please keep doin what you're doin. 👍👍💥
ABSOLUTELY
I feel like this is affecting you more than it did me. A great show and am so happy to see it the second time with you. This is a story about real humans trying their best to cope with this journey we call life. Thank you and be well. 😄
In the scene where Deets waves back at Newt, was the scene where Deets knew something was going to happen. The little things like that which is why this was one of the best westerns ever. And remember, there is The Return To Lonesome with all the same characters and new actors including Jon Voight, Barbara Hershey, Oliver Reed, from the Gladiator movie, 2000. The next reaction I'll say who really comes back with the actors so is not to spoil the ending, Part 4 to Lonesome Dove.
I've seen Lonesome Dove probably a dozen times...i love it
A western that didn’t romanticize the life that these people lived, and it was quite tragic in many respects👀👀👀
Great reaction I belatedly watched, as well as insightful and trenchant comments. As to McDonalds, I would certainly never describe them as fine eating but I would like to make one point. Back in the 70's, their fries were about the most delicious you could find, when they used beef tallow to cook them.
Dead Man's Walk..Comanche Moon..Streets of Laredo. You have to watch and you will get the whole story..you are awesome.
I tried to write my thesis on the novel with focus on Gus being the embodiment of Thoreau's ideals and Call - those of Franklinian pragmatism (but both of them with tragic flaws to them), and thus being the forces that conquered the wild west and built the America. Well, my university wouldn't hear of a thesis on "a western". So I quit my university with a BA and gave up on the idea - I don't want their degree if that's how they see the literature they haven't even read.
I can’t wait a whole week for your reaction to the final chapter!! How about tomorrow? 😊
Just found you and your channel and it's great. Keep it up!
Simply the best Western
There is a theme about the love you have is not as valuable as the loves you imagine🤷♀️👀🤷♀️👀🤷♀️
You will never forget Lonesome Dove. It's something very special. The tv sequels that came in the next few years were not even close in quality.
So great. So happy you're reacting to this! One of my fave miniseries ever. Hey, a totally different type of role/movie of Robert Duvall: NETWORK. Oh my gosh, that's a must-see. One of the greatest ever, definitely of the 70s. He's great, Faye Dunaway is great, the whole movie is fantastic. It's a satire, not a western. But it shows you his range! This, The Godfather, Network.....Apocalypse Now. Great Santini, The Apostle, Tender Mercies, Colors.....the guy is right up there with De Niro, Nicholson, Hoffman, Pacino and Hackman. The Magnificent Six.
He won the Oscar for Tender Mercies
Great reaction, Madison! To get the full understanding, you need to read the novel. I know you have a movie reaction channel, but on your own time, please read or listen to the book. My favorite American novel is " The Grapes Of Wrath". Lonesome Dove is number 2. Yes, there is a sequel novel " Streets Of Laredo" and two prequel novels "Dead Man's Walk", i.e. how Call & His came to be rangers and "Comanche Moon", at the tail end of their ranger careers and how they came to Lonesome Dove.
There are very few lines from movies that I live by. But the line (I hate rudeness in a man, and I won't tolerate it). Imprinted on me.
I've liked Chris Cooper since i saw him in this. He's an under rated actor though he's played many roles since this one.
Didn't know Robert Urich was in this. He ended up tragically dying too soon in both this, and in real life (cancer at 55). I wouldn't have been so quick to disbelieve him in this. He was outnumbered, so he had to wait until they came across people he could trust.
I recall in the book that he had a lot of money with him from his gambling winnings, and he was worried that the Suggs would eventually kill him for it, so he stayed low key, hoping to find an opportunity to get away from them. I don't know why they omitted it in the film, but before he was hanged, he told Newt he could keep whatever he found in his saddle bags, knowing that Newt would be shocked by finding all that money (I think it was around $800, which is a lot back then).
@@catherinelw9365 Hmmm, finding that much money on him would have made me MORE suspicious that he might have been a thief. And had possibly killed for it. I would have wanted to find someone to corroborate his story about winning that gambling. Of course, if he was hundreds of miles away from the town where he won it, that would have been impractical. That would have definitely been a difficult dilemma, deciding what to do with him in a place where there were no jails. If he WAS guilty, he might kill you in your sleep. There were probably a lot of innocent people back then who got hung, because of that fear. Your best bet for survival back then was to live in a small town, and make a lot of friends who would vouch for you, if you were ever falsely accused.
Absolutely fantastic reaction(s) to this epic from someone who truly appreciates how special it is. The prequels that McMurtry eventually wrote are very entertaining, well written, and definitely worth checking out. I never could bring myself to watch the tv movie adaptations (because- recasting). As far as novelists go, Larry McMurtry was considered one of the finest writers of western (and non-genre) fiction of the 20th century.
A few more film adaptations of his that happen to be great are:
The Last Picture Show (huge cast including Jeff Bridges)
Hud (Paul Newman) (McMurtry’s first film adaptation))
Terms of Endearment (Shirley MacLaine, Debra winger, Jack Nicolson)
Robert Duvall he stars in the movie broken trail
i think eating lots of local honey helped my spring allergies
As soon as you finish the TV show, I suggest you set down something else for a few days and pick up this Pulitzer winning book. Larry McMurtry's prose will further transport you into the settings, and into the lives of the characters.
Ive never seen a character in any movie acted better than Robert Duvals Augustus McRae and if there was it was probably by someone in this movie.
yeah, fantastic performance
"I never see you having accidents with ugly girls!" has got to be one of the best comeback lines ever! I laugh every time. That and "I won't marry again. I haven't got enough respect for men."
It's too bad you didn't show the whole scene when Woodrow charged up and dismounted and connected a punch on the Army scout all in one motion - Pure Poetry in Motion. No apologies for reacting/processing, it's great to see your genuine reactions. This is an epic classic, and you'll get a copy for your own library, I'm sure. Yes, lotsa unrequited love - hence the title.
Really enjoying your reaction to this series, hopefully you also get to check out Return to Lonesome dove also a good one.
check out 'open range' with Duvall and Costner..... great western film I reckon you'd really enjoy..... the fantastic
Annette Benning is in it too
Deets was modeled after a real-life cowboy named Bose Ikard, born a slave, Ikard rode for years after his emancipation with cattle barons Charles Goodnight and Oliver Loving, who were the inspiration for Gus and Woodrow.
That reminds me of another book called "The Color of Lightning" by Pauline Giles, based on the life of another ex-slave who moved to Texas called Britt Johnson. I believe the story of Britt Johnson is fairly well known in Texas. I don't want to spoil the story by going into details but it is pretty amazing. It is good book.
You need to read the book.
Madison has "Gone Outlaw"
Yeah this is like a 3-hour movie or or longer
I hate rude behavior in a man... That's my brother's favorite line in any movie
I don't think Jake Spoon forgot Lorena, I think with his imminent death as an outlaw it was like "cut her off from me, for her sake." Perhaps I'm giving him too much credit.
That's mcmurtrys writing for you according to my brother I've never read him....
Whatever you do, skip the awful name-only sequel, "Return to Lonesome Dove", which CBS put together as a cash grab without the participation of Larry McMurtry. Instead, I would recommend "Streets of Laredo", which McMurtry co-wrote and which stars James Garner as an older Woodrow Call. "Dead Man's Walk" features a younger Gus and Woodrow just starting out as Texas Rangers, and it's interesting although extremely downbeat. The final mini-series "Comanche Moon" , about Gus and Woodrow's middle years, runs hot and cold and has both pretty good and really bad aspects.
Great reactions you're having to this mini-series, Madison, but you're going to have a lot of questions about what happened to the characters when they were young and what happened to them afterwards. Fortunately, there are four movies that explain all of it. In the storyline's chronological order, they are: Dead Man's Walk (1995), Comanche Moon (1997), Lonesome Dove (1989, 4 parts), Return to Lonesome Dove (1993, 4 parts), and Streets of Laredo (1993). So, as you can see, Madison, your upcoming reaction to part 4 is not "the last one." There is still a whole lot more to watch before you know all of this epic story. 👍🙂 Enjoy the journey, and I hope you get over your allergies soon. ❤
Frontier justice was swift and brutal... it had to be, to make bad actors like Suggs think twice about murdering with impunity. It wasn't just that Call and McRae were former lawmen... in large territories where lawmen were sparse, good men with guns were usually the only protection against bad men with guns. Where the law was involved, and enforcement was difficult, it was the 'dead or alive' bounty hunter (killer) system that further put pressure on 'wanted' criminals, and set the example for others considering a life of crime, so the west could become 'civilized'. As demonstrated by Dee Boot and Jake Spoon, there was little 'gray area', in this system, and it surely wasn't perfect, but it largely worked.
Sorry, I'm double-dipping here, but I finally got to watch.
"Lonesome Dove did it first.", referring to the GoT death count. 😂
Don't feel bad for not talking. It's like watching a movie with a quiet friend. That just means you make it count when you do. 👍
Yeah, a lot of unrequited and regret here. It does aggravate and sadden me to watch this movie, but that's life. Plus, in fiction, your highs can only be as high as your lows can be low...if that makes any sense. 🤷🏻♂️
If you really want to go on a Lonesome Dove deep dive, which I'm totally here for, watch Return to Lonesome Dove (I hated it at first, but rewatched it recently and it's not bad), Lonesome Dove The Series (which is kind of boring, but sets up the next chapter), and Lonesome Dove The Outlaw Years (no spoilers).
Sorry I went on a rant here. The cold medicine has really kicked in. Lol ✌️
The best sequel to Lonesome Dove, imho, is Streets of Laredo in which the main characters are Pea Eye Parker and an agin Woodrow Cole. Pea Eye is a real hero.
I don't see Lonesome Dove as an unrequited love story (but I'll think about it). For me, it's a perfect illustration of life. I'm in my forties and 'unrequited love' is just part of life. Somone loves you more than you love them, somone runs and you follow stupidly, the timing isn't right, you marry somone you don't really love. I've been seeing all this over the past 20 years.
In your previous Lonesome Dove video, I compared LD to Lord of the Rings. One of the key factors of why LotR was so good was the amount of time it took Tolkien to write it. He didn't just whip it out. He took decades until he was satisfied with it. I believe the same applies for Lonesome Dove. McMurtry originally intended this for John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda but it got shelved after Wayne rejected it. I think McMurty did similar with this, stewing the story in his mind until he perfected it. You analogy with McDonalds is on point. Most stories produced today are rushed out the door like fast food. If only more authors took their time, we might see better stories but the people in charge of Hollywood now? Ain't happenin'. My two cents, anyway. :)
Madison, please watch "They Call Me Trinity" & "They Still Call Me Trinity". these two movies give an entirely different spin on Western/Comedy. i honestly think you'll fall in love with the characters and their story
I just had a thought. After this you must see Quigley down under.
You should check out the western movie broken trail
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Have several boxes of tissue ready for the finale. The funniest line to watch out for: "I like being a bachelor, Gus." "That's fine, Pea. I'm sure it's all part of God's plan that you ARE one!"
...walkin free on the earth
What is life actually about? Hmm. I'd say it's about love, first and foremost (all types of love). It's about courage. And it's about taking responsibility. We admire people who love deeply, have courage, and take responsibility. Along with that comes loyalty. And self-sacrifice for those you love. We are horrified and instinctively repelled by people who are loveless and who take no responsibility. We are not very fond of cowards, because they can't be relied upon. All that is touched on powerfully in this story, and it's what makes it so moving. You mentioned that Deets didn't deserve to die that way. True, he didn't. But as Clint Eastwood says in "Unforgiven", "Deserves got nothin' to do with it." And it doesn't. Bad things happen to good people all the time. Good things happen too. Why? There's no way to answer that. It's just the way it is. You do the best you can and carry on.
Explain trump cult then
Gus and Woodrow went thru a lot of change
Mexican war
Texas rangers against the Comanche
Outlaws
Civil war
Lonesome dove
The trip to Montana etc
From flintlock thru percussion to cartridge guns big changes in their lifetime.
Your smiles on the happy parts....and tears on the sad parts ....
This show just keeps getting better and better doesn't it? (And worse and worse.)
By the way, you aren't wearing a cowboy hat for this episode!
I think July Johnson's wife Ellie was what is now called a "borderline personality". Life seemed empty to her except for her over-idealized romantic obsession about one man, Dee Boot, who was clearly an unstable individual himself, on a destructive path that would not end well. She cared nothing for anyone else, not even her own children. Her early death was very likely, given her state of mind, and there was clearly nothing that could be done about it. The Buffalo hunter who got fixated on her was probably not around women much at all, and he became similarly obsessed with her...just because she was a female who happened to be in his presence (on the riverboat), I'd bet. She became his ideal of perfection. The whole thing was just sad, all around. July was lucky to end up at Claire's ranch. Nice to see *someone* have some good luck in this story!
I found Peach detestable. She was the local busybody and bully in July's little town, intimidating softer and kinder people than herself into doing her will for no other reason than her own need to control and dominate everyone. And relishing in every bit of bad gossip she could find. People like her are a curse on the rest of humanity. She treated everyone just like she did that rooster whose neck she wrung. She had no mercy in her.
one thing that always puzzled me about LD is they chase Dan and Jake initially for horse theft and then do similar to the Indians who stole the horses when Deetz dies, yet they themselves stole a ton of horses down in Mexico just before the cattle drive...... being ex-rangers they seem very anti-horse theft.... but do it themselves ..... or is it that it just doesn't;t count when its Mexican horses?
I think it’s that they know those horses were stolen to begin with, so in their minds they’re not stealing their property but taking back what was stolen. (Even though they can’t return them to their rightful owners) They can’t hold Pedro Flores and his men accountable like they do with the band that Jake is with simply because Pedro Flores’s gang is too powerful and they don’t have the numbers to do so.
No jurisdiction in Mexico.
@@catherinelw9365 should have built a wall 🤣
@@jimmorrish6771 Right!
It has none of my favorite "western" actors in it but it is easily my favorite western. I've seen it many times and hope to see it many more. I've enjoyed watching it with you, thank you. I too, avoid McNasty's at all costs.
The love story is partnership of gus and captain cray