Hello, i just did this battery replacement and it works! I will give some more info. I replaced the Lipo for the LG INR18650-HG2L 3000mAh - 20A which costing around 50% less than the brown ones in the demo. And another very important issue i was dealing with, my battery pack was slightly to big for its chamber caused by wiring. Therefor the lower lid could not seal properly and AIR was leaking when playing music loud. So resonance distortion was the result. I almost gave up, thinking my speaker was blown. So keep in mind the casing must be sealed completely!!! I used EPDM kit at the base of the inlet cable assy battery pack. Succes everyone, succes Léon
@@ballessss well have you ever tried doing something like that? I sometimes hate clips because it's really tight and feel like it was gonna break when dissasembling something
Those Batteries need to be isolated with soft material. Otherwise the sound will be soon or later bad because of their vibrations mate.😊 Otherwise good job👏🏿👏🏿
I did the same with my xtreme except that I used Samsung Lithium batteries. I like the Panasonic ones though. This was a fun project for me at the time. Great work on yours too.
Thanks to you. I understand how to use the bms on this device. Every one needs to not throw away their battery powered items but to repair them their self. "Gear show" shows how we all can make a difference.
You haven't put back the rubber gasket. Not only this use for waterproof but also help to airtight the internal to produce more vaccum to help create more bass in low frequency. Thats a very useful one. The JBL portable series are marvelous engineering of speakers.
I'm a bit suprised, i did many conversions like this, but the 18650 cell pairs did not fit inside right away, without some dremeling. Also, if you planning on using the speaker for years to come, you should definetly put in a 2s balancer. The lack of it, in the original bms is what causes the lipo cells to die so soon.
@@gartheligon140 @Garth Eligon It is a little circuit, that is either a separate circuitboard that you can buy and connect parallel to the existing bms board, or it is a function sometimes built into the bit more expensive bms circuits. Its function is exactly what its name is suggesting: it equalizing the cell voltages in a battery pack when the pack being charged. The "2s" simply means how many cells it is design for, in this case 2s means 2cell. Without a balancer, lithium cells tend to drift from each other in voltage, and over time, when charging the pack, one cell gets overcharged(and the bms shuts the pack down to prevent an explosion, while the other cell is far from being fully charged). And when discharging the less charged cell will depleat quickly, and the bms will again shut the pack down suddenly, to try to prevent the depleated cell from damage.
Great job. One thing I would like to ask why we should use 2 yellow cables to join the pcb (BM) to the battery. Could we simply join the two BM points on PCB and use a single cable to connect it to the battery?
Low bro I have a Major question before buying a replacement battery did you already try your jbl extream 1 without battery and just plug in the power cable will it turn on?
Go with li ion batteries from a Tesla model 3, they are 4800mah each and if you make it like this battery then it will be 9600mah and they are 21700 size so they will fill up the battery compartment but it might need slightly modified to fit them. batteryhookup.com has the Tesla batteries for around $3.50 each.
Great job, but be careful when screwing the driver, you wouldn't be the first who let the screwdriver slip and puncture the foam of the speaker (don't ask me how I know...) 😅
For us that we do not own any equipment, how can we join the four 18650 cells at home? I mean, I can get a soldering iron, but that machine you use to connect the terminals I am guessing it is pretty expensive.
Dude, just replaced my old tired, empty batteries, Can't thank enough. Jus hope my batteries purchase was a good one. Anyways, if/when change is needed again, I'll be ready!
Thank you very much for such a great detailed instruction. I can disassemble the device but I cannot solder. I never had to deal with soldering. Is there a direct replacement of Li-Polymer battery?
Yes, here's a battery available on Amazon www.amazon.com/dp/B082V93V1J 5000mAh Battery Works with JBL Xtreme Extreme Portable Bluetooth Speaker 5000mAh Li-Polymer
Do you have, (or know any videos on How to get an Altec Lansing bluetooth speaker apart? I have 2 of them, one is their "Baby Boom" model, it has no sound and painfully short battery life. Being a $20 unit, I want to learn on that; the other is their "Super Lifejacket" which does work, but no matter how long I charge it, the battery never indicates being fully charged, (the red LED never goes out).
Love the video... I'm not sure the average Joe can do this repair. And even though the battery exchange is really the most technical part of this, I'm not sure a local electronics shop would b worth the money they would charge to do it. Obviously it's gonna be less expensive to change the battery vs buying a new speaker, I would just need some help doing the battery switch itself.
Although it's awesome that he replaces the cells themselves, new (pre-wired) battery packs are also freely available online! This means you only have to do the screws and clips, the new battery will look exactly the same as the old one upon removal and simply snaps into the socket.
@@Jwk2211 the point is: the factory battery is Lithium Polymer this pack he's building is Lithium Ion. Lithium Ion is a safer battery, and does better with charge discharge cycles than LiPo. I personally don't have the ability to build a Li Ion pack, so I bought another LiPo from Amazon. Would be nice if someone pre-made ion packs and sold online 😉
Try answering some of these people's legitimate questions and concerns! Not just thanking people for stroking your ego. Or don't even make these videos if you can't explain yourself.
He did.. i personally wouldn't until further research.. Since the battery chemistry of the original battery lipo and the replacements are lithium.. So different chemistry might require different bms or charger boards.
Good job! But I need some clarification. I've seen different schemes on the same issue, there minuses were connected to BM and B- respectively... Pluses were connected to B+ and another BM. Also only two minuses were connected in parallel (for each battery). In your example you have connected all minuses in parallel and then to BM (one BM left alone). Why so different? I bought another BSM, since I'm not sure that stock is still alive. But that new BSM has 4 contacts: B+, B-, BM1 and BM2. So I wonder how to connect it to batteries. Thanks
Do you get JBL xtreme distortion at full volume.? i got some distortion . sounds like clipping,after battery replacement 18650.But only when i listen music on yotube music or songs from my phone with hight quality 320kbps
Did this 2 years ago... But never ever it will fit like you shown or the shown xtreme isn't sealed anymore. The passiv speakers loose a lot of power if this case isn't correct sealed. I had to remove a bit of cover both sites to get the seal close enough together with no little air gap. Other option would be to seal the hole and let the encloser with this gap.
I did this 2 years ago and 18650 don't fit perfectly, bit to high, don't know how he get this sealed again. I had to remove a bit of the encloser to get it back together with no air gap left. Passive speaker should loose lot of power if not sealed correctly
He did.. i personally wouldn't until further research.. Since the battery chemistry of the original battery lipo and the replacements are lithium.. So different chemistry might require different bms or charger boards.
U blind bro, check 2 parrallel two in series 2x6.7amps=53.6watts, if your talking li-ion laptop cells, they provide .7amps continous, you can get 2 amps peak discharge but audio quality suffers due to voltage drop on cells cant handle. Also, series cells needs balancer charger/discharge otherwise one series cells dies because of reverse charge
You can increase the capacity to 10000 using 21700 batteries (higher price) instead of 18650. Maybe a modification is needed but from the looks of the compartment, I think it can fit in nicely.
Nice upgrade. I hate that startup/shutdown sound. It's silly and annoying. You can turn it off by using the JBL app. I've done on mine - now it's quiet.
Bro, I'm having a fake JBL charge 2+. I used it in my school dance practice for like 3 years. And suddenly one day it stopped working. When I pressed the power button, it was dead. But when I keep for charging, the speaker will not work but the light comes on. What should I do?
Really puzzled actually, why? Advantages of a LiPo battery It is safe from explosion, unlike Li-Ion battery. It does not lose its charging capacity as fast as a Li-Ion battery. Hence its life span is greater than 1000 times which is higher than a Li-Ion battery. So you put in a Li-ion, lol. Great choice.
Hello, i just did this battery replacement and it works! I will give some more info. I replaced the Lipo for the LG INR18650-HG2L 3000mAh - 20A which costing around 50% less than the brown ones in the demo. And another very important issue i was dealing with, my battery pack was slightly to big for its chamber caused by wiring. Therefor the lower lid could not seal properly and AIR was leaking when playing music loud. So resonance distortion was the result. I almost gave up, thinking my speaker was blown. So keep in mind the casing must be sealed completely!!! I used EPDM kit at the base of the inlet cable assy battery pack. Succes everyone, succes Léon
hi my jbl extreme battery dead
The confidence you have while you disassembly that device is astonishing. I'd be afraid of breaking clips and stop immediately.
He is not a coward
@@ballessss well have you ever tried doing something like that? I sometimes hate clips because it's really tight and feel like it was gonna break when dissasembling something
It looks like the video was sped up a bit so his movements looks fast.
There is also a possibility that it's not his first rodeo.
Experience is the best teacher
Please do more such videos.. you are the Battery King
Yes indeed
Those Batteries need to be isolated with soft material. Otherwise the sound will be soon or later bad because of their vibrations mate.😊
Otherwise good job👏🏿👏🏿
I did the same with my xtreme except that I used Samsung Lithium batteries. I like the Panasonic ones though. This was a fun project for me at the time. Great work on yours too.
Which type of batteries brother
I like your videos because I can feel the love and respect you give to all the items you repair.
As if they were alive.
Yes indeed
Yogkgk
@@sitihalifah7402 truja bruta
Thanks to you. I understand how to use the bms on this device. Every one needs to not throw away their battery powered items but to repair them their self. "Gear show" shows how we all can make a difference.
Yes indeed
Yeah totally agree, too bad some companies make it impossible to repair
Bms' WTF
@TheNigaHigaFan4Ever "coughs" Apple
you should add foam for the battery compartment, so they dont rattle while playing music
Or even moving the unit around, would imagine it would clunk around as well. Maybe that part/addition just wasn't included in the video.
*rolleyes*
Agreed
@@macaroni2415 Looked like it was in there firm and tight anyway.
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You haven't put back the rubber gasket. Not only this use for waterproof but also help to airtight the internal to produce more vaccum to help create more bass in low frequency. Thats a very useful one. The JBL portable series are marvelous engineering of speakers.
I put it back, but I don't firm. Anyway thank you for suggestion!
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The one battery pack you made in the start of your show was not the same as the battery pack you put at the end of your show Sir! Why is that?
I'm a bit suprised, i did many conversions like this, but the 18650 cell pairs did not fit inside right away, without some dremeling.
Also, if you planning on using the speaker for years to come, you should definetly put in a 2s balancer. The lack of it, in the original bms is what causes the lipo cells to die so soon.
What's that?
What is a 2s balancer?
@@gartheligon140 @Garth Eligon It is a little circuit, that is either a separate circuitboard that you can buy and connect parallel to the existing bms board, or it is a function sometimes built into the bit more expensive bms circuits. Its function is exactly what its name is suggesting: it equalizing the cell voltages in a battery pack when the pack being charged. The "2s" simply means how many cells it is design for, in this case 2s means 2cell.
Without a balancer, lithium cells tend to drift from each other in voltage, and over time, when charging the pack, one cell gets overcharged(and the bms shuts the pack down to prevent an explosion, while the other cell is far from being fully charged). And when discharging the less charged cell will depleat quickly, and the bms will again shut the pack down suddenly, to try to prevent the depleated cell from damage.
@@M0rtin67 Thank you, now I know. 👍👍
What’s a good site to buy the batteries from ?
I've done it too, it works way better than the stock battery 😎👌
Yea I put 4 3000mAh 18650s into my JBL Xtreme 3 because the stock batteries sucked
Thanks a lot, I did that on my Xtreme and worked PRETTY FINE, about 11 hours duration using high quality cells.
Qual tempo de carregamento?
@@eltonsilva5922 nunca medi, deixo carregando enquanto durmo
Muito obrigado! Feliz natal
Would it better or safer to discharge the batteries before tack welding then together?
yes, you must discharge them up to 3.6v to solder safely. with them loaded there is risk of explosion
How is the water prof ness of the JBL now.
It was never waterproof...... its a splash proof speaker.
Not good.
High power my step mom hehe now spoiler Reddy assistant woo dam you making I love it 😍
Great job. One thing I would like to ask why we should use 2 yellow cables to join the pcb (BM) to the battery. Could we simply join the two BM points on PCB and use a single cable to connect it to the battery?
and effective? did it last longer than the previous battery??
有一种干冰清洗机，接到空压机上，混合干冰气体之后喷出来，可以清洁电子电路和汽车油泥，有条件的话试试那个？
Low bro I have a Major question before buying a replacement battery did you already try your jbl extream 1 without battery and just plug in the power cable will it turn on?
I really like when you do the battery replacement like this, could you do more please
I didn't need to watch this but watched it anyway.
Estupendo video sobre el cambio de bateria de este JBL Extreme de tipo Lipo a Li-ion, respetos y saludos desde Venezuela.
💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘🤘🙏🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯💯
Hno. Venezolano, tenes idea del porqué cambio las pilas de color marrón, a las de color verde????
Desde BsAs. Argentina, un saludo
@@cleofec.7585 por que a bateria verde tem mais capacidade
@@cleofec.7585 Yo también me quede con el interrogante.
Y todavía no se porque.
Cómo determinó que referencia de baterías le coloco o cuáles son esas verdes que le coloco ?
And is it possible to insert a higher capacity battery and where can you buy a battery?
Yes it's possible use higher capacity cell but consider the size so they can fit under the compartment easily
Go with li ion batteries from a Tesla model 3, they are 4800mah each and if you make it like this battery then it will be 9600mah and they are 21700 size so they will fill up the battery compartment but it might need slightly modified to fit them.
batteryhookup.com has the Tesla batteries for around $3.50 each.
thanks, I was afraid to use the li-po pcm and transfer it to the li-ion battery, but now I consider it an option.
Thanks, I did this to my Speaker too and it last much longer now than the stock battery.
Great job, but be careful when screwing the driver, you wouldn't be the first who let the screwdriver slip and puncture the foam of the speaker (don't ask me how I know...) 😅
Okay, thank you for reminding me :D
I would use my fingers to surround the screw driver and hold it in place because it's better safer than sorry😂
Hi, I am from Indonesia, I Like your video
Yes indeed
Very Good Video 👌 Good Work.
I have a question , how many mHA have the selfmade Akku Pack and how many mHA have the Original?
Great job!!! Dont need bms?
You need the BMS this is important!
how long the battery last in a maximum volume music playing?
Half the time they quote i have used lots of jbl speakers not this model though. 🇬🇧👍
Less than 8h
I own a dindinmodern brand speaker. Honestly, it's really good. I prefer his bass. I've been using it for a year so far and it deserves my praise.
I did nearly the same with mine, but i used again a lipo. Great vid!❤️👍
Well done, that Lipo is a better choice.
What site can I order the batteries from ?
For us that we do not own any equipment, how can we join the four 18650 cells at home? I mean, I can get a soldering iron, but that machine you use to connect the terminals I am guessing it is pretty expensive.
Dude, just replaced my old tired, empty batteries, Can't thank enough. Jus hope my batteries purchase was a good one. Anyways, if/when change is needed again, I'll be ready!
That welder! Do You have instructions of how you do something like that? Too expensive where I live
Yeah, This one is a good build, is professional enough, but very cheap and easy to make.
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￡32.69 25%OFF | DH20 Pro Adjustable 9 Gears Mini Spot Welding Machine With Quick Release Pen Nickel Plate 18650 Battery Welder Spot Welder
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Isn't Li-po max voltage something like 4.35V? It could overcharge these cells. Is it still alive?
if you have good soldering skills something like this would be easy great job well done
JBL7 de boa tarde vou para casa de mãe e esqueci com
Thank you very much for such a great detailed instruction.
I can disassemble the device but I cannot solder.
I never had to deal with soldering. Is there a direct replacement of Li-Polymer battery?
Yes, here's a battery available on Amazon
www.amazon.com/dp/B082V93V1J
5000mAh Battery Works with JBL Xtreme Extreme Portable Bluetooth Speaker 5000mAh Li-Polymer
New juice for blue tooth! .... hey that rhymes... great Job Gear Show!!! Warm regards!
I love your channal 🤩🤩😍😍😍😍😍
In the later parts. Where did the yellow wires go? Its confusing with brown & green batteties.
Do you have, (or know any videos on How to get an Altec Lansing bluetooth speaker apart? I have 2 of them, one is their "Baby Boom" model, it has no sound and painfully short battery life. Being a $20 unit, I want to learn on that; the other is their "Super Lifejacket" which does work, but no matter how long I charge it, the battery never indicates being fully charged, (the red LED never goes out).
Love the video... I'm not sure the average Joe can do this repair. And even though the battery exchange is really the most technical part of this, I'm not sure a local electronics shop would b worth the money they would charge to do it. Obviously it's gonna be less expensive to change the battery vs buying a new speaker, I would just need some help doing the battery switch itself.
Although it's awesome that he replaces the cells themselves, new (pre-wired) battery packs are also freely available online! This means you only have to do the screws and clips, the new battery will look exactly the same as the old one upon removal and simply snaps into the socket.
@@Jwk2211 the point is: the factory battery is Lithium Polymer this pack he's building is Lithium Ion. Lithium Ion is a safer battery, and does better with charge discharge cycles than LiPo.
I personally don't have the ability to build a Li Ion pack, so I bought another LiPo from Amazon. Would be nice if someone pre-made ion packs and sold online 😉
@@Jwk2211Where can one find such a thing?
Very nice, but to be honest it seems like a lot of work. So i'll just throw mine in the bin and buy another one if you don't mind. 😊
Sell it or give it away
I PREFER 10000 TIMES BUY OTHER ONE. ANYWAY IS AMAZING YOUR VIDEO.
Thank u, this is exactly what I need to do with my Harman Kardon speaker👌
You're welcome, I'm glad it helps you!
Try answering some of these people's legitimate questions and concerns! Not just thanking people for stroking your ego. Or don't even make these videos if you can't explain yourself.
Did you open it again to put the foam around the batteries?
Yes, I did.
Love the way you regonize your working place so nice. ^_^
Did you use the old PCB board from the defective battery and resolder it to the new ones?
He did.. i personally wouldn't until further research.. Since the battery chemistry of the original battery lipo and the replacements are lithium.. So different chemistry might require different bms or charger boards.
Good job! But I need some clarification. I've seen different schemes on the same issue, there minuses were connected to BM and B- respectively... Pluses were connected to B+ and another BM. Also only two minuses were connected in parallel (for each battery). In your example you have connected all minuses in parallel and then to BM (one BM left alone). Why so different? I bought another BSM, since I'm not sure that stock is still alive. But that new BSM has 4 contacts: B+, B-, BM1 and BM2. So I wonder how to connect it to batteries. Thanks
This really confues me too.
Great video. Can this speaker work without battery , only with charger connected ?
Do you get JBL xtreme distortion at full volume.? i got some distortion . sounds like clipping,after battery replacement 18650.But only when i listen music on yotube music or songs from my phone with hight quality 320kbps
Nice job! But do I need to replace the charger or can I use the original charger? Inscribed on the original 19v And in these batteries is it 7.4v?
Good job, you need hear music while restore the other tools.
Yes indeed
Could u tell me what the brand new batteries are ?
Omg bro you are a GOD 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Did this 2 years ago... But never ever it will fit like you shown or the shown xtreme isn't sealed anymore. The passiv speakers loose a lot of power if this case isn't correct sealed. I had to remove a bit of cover both sites to get the seal close enough together with no little air gap. Other option would be to seal the hole and let the encloser with this gap.
Good lak 👌👌😌😌
did you insert the rubber isolation for the battery cartridge's?
other then that, nice job.
Yes indeed was wondering the same
I did this 2 years ago and 18650 don't fit perfectly, bit to high, don't know how he get this sealed again. I had to remove a bit of the encloser to get it back together with no air gap left. Passive speaker should loose lot of power if not sealed correctly
Did you use the BMS from old battery ?
He did.. i personally wouldn't until further research.. Since the battery chemistry of the original battery lipo and the replacements are lithium.. So different chemistry might require different bms or charger boards.
@@vaastafraja5685 I changed from li po to li ion.. it’s not charging what can I do ?
I wish we could swap bigger batteries for smartphones at least as easy as this
QUE SE VE FÁCIL HACER LO QUE TÚ HICISTE.
FELICIDADES.
SALUDOS DESDE CHILE.
Ş
Did you forget to reinstall the gasket?
Lithium polymer chemistry vs lithium ion. Check discharge rate of the batteries, might not be able to deliver enough current for low bass
U blind bro, check 2 parrallel two in series 2x6.7amps=53.6watts, if your talking li-ion laptop cells, they provide .7amps continous, you can get 2 amps peak discharge but audio quality suffers due to voltage drop on cells cant handle. Also, series cells needs balancer charger/discharge otherwise one series cells dies because of reverse charge
Why u don't change batteries controller?
Udaya👍👍🙋🙋🎶🎵🎵🎵
You can increase the capacity to 10000 using 21700 batteries (higher price) instead of 18650. Maybe a modification is needed but from the looks of the compartment, I think it can fit in nicely.
These batteries are 3000mAh each so all of them together are 12000mAh. More than 10000 so that's good too.
@@peterparisopoulos9968 it's 2S2P configuration so 6Ah 7.4Vnom
@@peterparisopoulos9968 wrong
This upgrade works also for the JBL Partybox 100?
Gayet başarılı bir çalışma olmuş elinize sağlık. 👍
Of the battery brands you use, which are the best?
Thanks for this vedio 👍👍🙏🙏😎😎
Thanking you bro...from this video learn something new....
Love from india,,,😁😁
Great video! I love it when you branch out! 🤩
Yes indeed
Hi brother what is the name of This machine you use to solder the batteries ?
Awesome video..Thank you for sharing 💙💙💙
Great video...can I use a 7.4v 10000 mah battery for my jlb..??
Nicely done 👍👍👍Thanks for sharing
Yes indeed
Jan lng po ba kau sa Raon kelan ba pde pumunta pero wait ko gang matapos kasi pra maka minus nman ako sa pamasahe salamat ulit
Crne baterije imaju voltažu 3,8v, kad ih spojite onda 0v kako to? Kažete to je Ok, a onda te crne zamenite sa zelenim, zašto?
What are you two yellow wires for?
Nice upgrade. I hate that startup/shutdown sound. It's silly and annoying. You can turn it off by using the JBL app. I've done on mine - now it's quiet.
Thx for uploading beyond drill machines
Try factory reset,will solve lot of issues ,just find right method , different buttons combination for JBL series like 2,3,4,5, etc
SUPER!!!!
Yes indeed
Gacor ya boos tahan lama mangkinan karena di ganti baterai
Bro, I'm having a fake JBL charge 2+. I used it in my school dance practice for like 3 years. And suddenly one day it stopped working. When I pressed the power button, it was dead. But when I keep for charging, the speaker will not work but the light comes on. What should I do?
Паял коричневые появились зелёные АКБ)))
excellent project👍
Yes indeed
Is that the same as lowbat?
Really puzzled actually, why? Advantages of a LiPo battery
It is safe from explosion, unlike Li-Ion battery. It does not lose its charging capacity as fast as a Li-Ion battery. Hence its life span is greater than 1000 times which is higher than a Li-Ion battery. So you put in a Li-ion, lol. Great choice.
안녕하세요
제가 갓고있는 제이비얼 익스트림 인데 블루투스 연결되자마자 소리가 멈추는데 밧데리가 문제인것 같은데 밧데리 교환 의뢰하면 교환작업 해주실수 있는지요? 비용은 얼마나 되는지요.
Is the recharging process the same for lipo and li-ion?
yeah the same ...18650 or 21700
No.... Not exactly
Everyone really needs to do their homework and study the subject first.
I believe this reaper
Love work like this now I know great 👍
Do compering about LG XBOOM PN5 and Any JBL Speaker
Does the it work without batteries if plugged in?
Yes, you can use adapter.
Thanks 👍👍😌
عمل رائع شكرا لك اخي
Next time just add foam for protection of the battery 👍👌
What a masterpiece of art 👍
Hi sir I am your big fan
I will do it exactly the way you did it. Thanks