Making BETTER Space Wolves than Games Workshop! -- Combat Patrol challenge.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- This week, I show you how I partnered with Greytide Studios to create better Space Vikings than Games Workshop!
0:00 Intro
3:35 Reivers
8:32 Intercessors
13:50 Captain
15:13 Invictor Warsuit
21:05 Showcase
22:52 Outro
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Lore tip: Most Space Wolves don't have yellow shoulderpads. The yellow field with the black wolf head is the mark of Ragnar Blackmane's Great Company, it just become GW's studio standard over the years. In fact, most of the great companies colors are either red or black.
Really nice minis btw, I'm very tempted to start Space Wolves with those upgrades, they look amazing.
These turned out leagues and leagues better than what GW is offering us, and I totally agree with how they've made all the chapters basically the same thing with different names and colors, I miss having a Long Fang pack and units with mixed weapons, it made things far more appropriate and thematic, and strangely made it feel more realistic since having a heavy weapon team in your squad is or at least was the standard for the Army when I was in.
Really like the paint scheme as well, it's obviously Space Wolves from a distance and wouldn't be difficult to replicate for batch painting or doing an entire army over a weekend. I've been painting all of mine with Vallejo blue-grey stone and it's a nice, lovely dark blue grey.
third party Space Wolves are leagues above how GW is treating Space Wolves. Kromlech, DakkaDakkaStore and GreyTideStudio are some absolute legends who properly deck us Space Wolves out the way they should be.
love the content!
First video of yours I’ve seen and it’s great. As a SW player, seeing tips like these are so useful. Love how individual this combat patrol is now with the additions. The war suit looks epic, like it’s only one honour away from a dreadnought promotion!
Welcome to the channel, and enjoy the backlog! I like to think this Invictor is for marines that are severely wounded but will recover in time, unlike the ones interred in dreds.
This is awesome! Space wolves were my first army, and one of my favorites. When Primaris released I felt my lists lost a lot of flavor painting, and rules. After Shelving them for years I sold them, and I haven't had another space marine army. Things like this and modern 3D printing give me hope.
That problem could have been prevented if they had put actual space wolves kits in that patrol... but since space wolves dont have the primaris update yet, that patrol has no actual space wolves kit... (hounds are just reivers + upgrade so doesnt count)
All of those faction specific "upgrade" kits are just sad.
@@thehammerofwrathyet face is sad. YER FACE! 😆🤣😂
Never been a fan of GW SW. never thought they were Viking enough. So this is a great way of doing just that.
Yeah, if it weren't for these bits, I wouldn't have done the patrol. Just not wolf-y enough out of the box!
Yeah, too feral and not enough Norse, I very much agree
Next level video my friend. Thanks can’t wait to see you tackle the Adepta Sororitas.
Challenge accepted
They look great. I've thought for quite a while now that GW leaned a bit too far into the wolf theme and no where near enough into the Viking theme for Space Wolves, so with the primaris being less detailed, allowing for conversion like this, isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Yeah, with 3rd party vendors like Greytide, it opens up a lot of possibilities.
Hey oh, I got 2 tips that will help you in the future:
1) yellow is much better to brush on a pink base coat, I can't tell how much this is a game changer, it works with airbrush to but only with classic paint I don't if it works with contrast.
2)when painting pack marking I've now switched to drawing them first with a fine tip mechanical pencil, it draws well enough over most paints, it doesn't really scratches the paint and it can be easily be removed with an eraser, man did this help me draw good pack markings
These are great tips! I used pink under the giant Imperial Fist I printed and painted! -- not sure why it didn't occur to me here! :)
Always been a Space Wolves fan . Great upgrade tutorial . :)
Thanks!
I'm a fan of the Greytide stuff! It leans more into the viking aesthetic that the OG SW were all about (read: 30k) without losing the 'wolf' aspects that the chapter is known for. Very cool stuff.
Love the minis, always impressed by the paint work and the conversions. And the need to capture old 40k with modern day stuff.
Thanks. These might be the most fun I've had working on space marines.
For has much as everyone (rightly!) complains about GW releasing too many space marine models, they haven't given a fig about Space Wolves or the other marine sub-factions since 2014.
thankfully the community stepped in with bits like these and they look really nice. I love how your colours came out!
Yeah, I'm excited to see the new Dark Angles getting a rework they deserve, but GW really lost the flavor of the different chapters in the jump to primaris.
Great video! Keep em coming! Really enjoying this series.
Thanks, will do!
Very nice marines. Well done. And thx for the watery tric for the shoulders wash.
I would only suggest scraping the paint a little bit when glueing with plastic glue. It'll give a better bond between the 2 parts.
GW will be refreshing the entire Space Wolf range at the end of 10th to include all the teeth, runes, and fur you could ever want just in time for the return of Leman Russ to the game. You'll see... ;)
Oh, man, I'd kill to paint a new version of that primarch...
New sub from me. I printed a tackle box full of these bits, and I really wish I had them when I started the hobby at the beginning of last year with a SW combat patrol. Future additions to the Rout are going to look amazing just like these!
Thanks for the sub! And yes, the Greytide Primal Hounds bits are AMAZING!
Fantastic video as always, Trip!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wolfie, wolf, wolves, woof, woofs!
This is the way Space Wolves have to look. You and Greytide have done a great job.
Thanks! I'm happy with the way they came out.
Really like the change something simple as closing the cockpit on that warsuit can make
Yeah. HUGE difference, right?
Absolutely beautiful work.
Thank you! Cheers!
Your techniques for leather using contrast paint and what you did to paint the faces is something I'm definitely going to try.
Thanks for that.
My faces are hit or miss, but that leather recipe never fails!
Completely agree. I'm dark angels collector and have done for like 17 years and I got into it coz the robes, the feathers, the hoods, keys and incense holders ect they ate what stood out to me about the dark angels and games workshop made models that cost more but took away the best bits that make them my army. I hoping with this big dark angels release I can build some cool stuff.
Oh, man, those new Belial and Asmodai models look so cool.
I have to second what was said before, the first video I've seen on your channel and it's great! Super easy to follow and the effect is great. Thank's for that!
Awesome! Thank you! and welcome to the channel!
Finally getting the chance to watch this today, just got back from an extended holiday vacation haha. I really love the work you did on this combat patrol. Stuff like this would make me want to purchase a Space Wolves CP if it resembled this right out of the box. Although I have a little renewed faith in GW with the newly revealed Dark angels upgrade pack that is loads better than the previous. BUt these are fantastic bits and of course greytide studios are nailing these custom bits for Space Marine Chapters. Im patiently waiting for Salamander themed bits to get released and Im all in on those.
I really love the work you did on the Warsuit. I managed to kitbash a space wolves themed Warsuit a few years ago for commision using the space wolves themed venerable dreadnought set. That set comes with soo many wolf and viking themed bits since it comes with the option for Bjorn as well. My friend wanted Bjorn and a warsuit fully built and painted. Bjorn was simple to put together and with so many other bits still left including the space wolf themed venerable dreadnought parts I had a blast bringing it more to life. I managed to create a mostly inclosed canopy for the warsuit but didnt want it to resemble a dreadnought too much
Bjorn the fel-handed was one of the inspirations for putting the shield and axe on the suit. I remember seeing that model for the first time and thinking that it was cool that it had all the extra space wolves decorations on it.
@@thehammerofwrath he's one of the best examples of what GW could do with chapter themed units. Unfortunately other chapters didnt get so lucky but Im sure all will get their chance to have cool unique characters like Bjorn on the tabletop someday. GW seems to be putting their best foot forward with all of the Dark Angels refreshes. Id be curious if they maybe put Bjorn in a redempter chassi. We currently are getting primarisified characters like Dante and Azrael so I wonder if they will do the same for the few dreadnought characters the lore still has around
Yo, youtube suggestions on point lately. Excellent production quality my guy, subscription earned 👍
Thanks! The algorithm got ahold of this one while I was sleeping! Pleasant surprise to wake up to a bigger audience! Welcome to the channel and enjoy the backlog!
They look awesome, the upgrade parts which you printed are definitely an improvement over what GW provides.
I think so too!
Those are some really nice kitbashes, that combat patrol is weird it does say space wolves but its very clear they just wanted to sell multiple generic marine combat patrols.
I personally really like the Invictor Warsuit its ridiculous but thats what makes it fun, the old boxnaught is what really sparked my interest in 40K when I was a kid and it's incredibly silly looking from a practical standpoint.
I actually enjoy the more absurd elements of 40K, but in this case, for me, the Invictor was just, "Nah, bro." :D
@@thehammerofwrath maybe it'll grow on you? It took awhile before I could appreciate it for what it is, atleast it's not a centurion 😄
Looks fantastic! Really great job. When i modernize my space wolves force ill look at picking some of these bits up as well.
The kit is a stunner. If you don't have a 3D printer, several online partners are licensed to sell pre-printed bits.
When this set first came out I bought it and painted it up using the old Space Wolf Greys and Blues and thought it accurate but now having watched your video - well I am impressed by your techniques but if able to still manage to get hold of the older paints I prefer using them coupled with the washes.
Love the video and really like the end result for your Space Wolves. The color mix is something I will be using! :D
I'm a fellow Japan resident (and Lead Belcher enthusiast). Maybe see you at a game in one of the shops (Akihabara / Jimbocho) and see your wolfy bois in action!
The WH community here is really nice.
That would be cool. Are you on the wargamers in japan discord?
Incredible work 😮
Thank you! Cheers!
Love this! I have a few questions:
1. How did you attach them to temporary bases? Hot glue like the heads?
2. What red and yellow paints did you use? Keen to try this!
3. For painting heads with partial helmet, did you do the blues first then go back over with white before your skin recipe?
4. For the bases can you share the rough colour greys used?
Thankyou and amazing work! 🙌🙌🙌
1. I used a drop of superglue on one foot only. it snaps off with a twist, but hot glue would work just as well.
2. I use vallejo bloody red and gory red. The yellows are Vallejo gold yellow and GW flashgitz yellow.
3. I paint the skintones first, then brush painted the lower helmet with GW fenrisian grey.
4. the bases are GW mechanicus standard grey with a central highlight of Vallejo cold grey, and a dry brush of cold grey/white.
@@thehammerofwrath thankyouuuuu 🙌
I saw the thumbnail when this was premiering, and immediately went out and bought the stl set, love the results
That's great! What sold me was Eons of Battle's result. I knew right then I wanted to collaborate with Greytide studios!
@@thehammerofwrath all the more kitbash bits to add to my ever growing stl horde!
Enjoyed this one!
Yay, thank you!
Glad you mentioned cutting space wolves grey with contrast medium. It’s prevented the “coffee staining” on my SW army.
Felt dumb for not having thought of it while I was doing the reivers. :)
Excellent work
Thank you! Cheers!
I love how these look by the end! Here's hoping GW bring out a better upgrade sprue for the Space Wolves soon like they're doing for the Dark Angels at the moment.
Also if you're finding yellow a problem to paint, i've found Bad Moon Yellow Contrast works well over a light base coat (either Grey Seer/White Scar spray or paint, though I suspect Vallejo Pale Sand may work well as well for a slightly warmer tone.)
Awesome conversions and painting!
My only issue is the brown base on the Invictor shield; black would've been more contrast, called to the red and black markings of the rest of the patrol and harkened back to the colour Grey Hunters and Wolf Guard share ^^
I don't disagree!
Cool
The Army Painter wolf grey is perfect for this, spray the models with it and save yourself a ton of time!
Thanks for the tip! I'm trying to get into their partner program as well.
Stunning!!!!!
Thank you!!
Can’t stop the signal. Keep printing
Hi, Love the way your metalic surfaces turn out. Do you use the Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade in a 50/50 mix over the LB or one coat after the other?
agrax first. once that's dry, nuln in the deepest recesses.
Your paint style is very Gundam, The bits look fantastic thanks for showing them off. The only unit that did not look space wolf was the reavers they just looked like reavers outside of that the rest looked fantastic and I reay liked how the walker came out. I agree with you the open canopy is just dumb.
Thanks for the honest critique! I thought the reavers got *mostly* there with the new pauldrons, power packs and heads, but intercessors allow for a little more customization with bracers, greaves and decorations.
I’ve never been happy with space wolves and not sure I ever will
Be.
I really want to do my version, but I need to vastly improve my sculpting abilities before this is ever a reality.
I think they should
Be covered in pelts and talismans and runes.
I very much think of them as Vikings and not feral.
Do yourself a favor and check out the images of the full STL pack at greytide stuidios. There are a LOT of bits (over 300) that I didn't use and many are exactly what you're talking about!
Really cool.
thank you!
Just put the tip of your brush wirh no paint in it to pick up the pooling unhad issues with
Brother...this was a great video...I'm really impressed...seriously...Now I'm about to piss a bunch of people off...You didn't say the word "POP" once!!! BRAVO!!! Mini's don't "pop" unless you put a firecracker under them..I have talked to a lot of artists and art majors in school and they don't say "pop"...I hate it🤮🤮🤮you didn't say it and I'm soooo glad...thank you!!! (Okay, now the rest of the community can flame me...but, don't care, just my opinion...)
As for the warsuit...I felt the same way you did, I thought it was silly and stupid...but one day I thought, well, it's a way of making a marine more mobile and able to carry a bigger gun/more weapons so not really that opposed to it anymore...
Again, you did a great job brother...keep it up...can't wait for the next one...
:) If you think "pop" is bad, go back and count how many times I say "Absolutely incredible" in my videos! LoL. A friend pointed that out, and now I'm constantly checking myself while recording.
@thehammerofwrath you make great videos brother...hoping to see a Mechanicus and Drukhari combat patrol...as well as an Ork...keep them coming...I will keep watching...
Orks were in "Orktober" of course! Check the channel and you should see it! (I've been doing a patrol every month!)
@@thehammerofwrath watching it now...
Really cool!
Thanks!
Magnifique !
merci!
Nice work. I did notice you have quite a lot of layer shifts in your prints and might be worth having a look at your z axis rod on your printer. They seem to be happening at the same positions in the printed bases and shields and the paintjobs brings them out more distracting from the otherwise great paint job.
It was the FEP. I switched that out after printing the base toppers and everything was smooth from there.
Where did you find the scaling guide for the invictor warsuit? Thank you!
It was included in the top level folder of the .zip file that included all the stls. In a folder titled "Scale Info".
phenominal job
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Awesome job mate 🇦🇺👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Very nice sir.
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
Great video. Nice to see the hobby from the perspective of a gamer in Japan. You mentioned Pro Acryl paints, could you tell me which shop carries them? I like their paints a lot, but never found them in any Japanese shops so far. Cheers.
There was a very small selection in akihabara in the radio kaikan building, but I can't recall what floor it was on. (there are several different hobby shops on the floors of a single building)
@@thehammerofwrath Thanks, will try and check it out next time I'm there
Stupid question. I haven’t made minis in years and am just getting back into it but what is the blue stuff round pauldron etc. you are using to mask with?
Poster tac! You can get it at staples or any office supply store. it's meant to hang posters without nails, thumb tacks, etc.
Love your work. What printer and resin do you use? and how brittle are your resin prints? What cure time do you use?
I have an Anycubic Photon Mono 4K. I use Saratech resin, but have just switched to Anycubic's ABS-like resin. (for the next video) The resin can be a bit bittle for small things like weapons and purity seals, so you have to blend it with a more flexible resin to avoid that. I only cure the parts for 2 minutes.
@@thehammerofwrathI use anycubic with 10-15% Siraya tenacious mixed in and it fixes all the brittleness 👍
@@mitchcameron yeah, I actually mixed ST tenacious with the ST fast when printing the purity seals for the large Sister of Battle statue.
Where in Akihabara do you recommend? I visit fairly often but always end up in yellow submarine (and sometimes paint in Bic Camera). Is there anywhere else that I have missed?
Hit up radio kaikan just outside of the station entrance on the east side. 8 floors of hobby goodness! (there's a ton of other hobby stuff like CCGs and Gunplay as well)
@@thehammerofwrath thanks! Next there in September so will add it to my list!
puppies!
great paintjob but i cant unsee that you didnt clean all the mold lines
What? Where? I spent hours scraping these things!
Tbh in retrospect, if space wolves had no animal in their theme it would be for the better
A hat on a hat you say, I think the Team Fortress 2 community would like a chat with you 😂
Damn. They look like proper Space Wolves. Even though I'm a Thousand Sons guy they look ..... cool? Better? GW didn't do them justice.
Btw do you know where I could get some amazing 3D or normal bits for Thousand Sons, Raven Guard and Blood Angels?
I usually troll cults 3D a few times a week. You have to be clever with your search terms, but there are plenty of artists making additional bits.
Do you know about the Hounds of Morkai box? They're Space Wolves flavoured reivers ! Funnily enough they are much better than actual reivers (Who have been a terrible unit rules wise since launch, which is a shame beacuse i love their helmets and idea).
True but as far as their flavor goes it’s like sprinkling a little bit of space wolf on your full dinner dish of reavers, there’s not much for them out of the little sprue they give you.
i was wondering what is a good resin printer for beginners
I have a video for that! Check my channel - it's one of the first videos I ever made!
@@thehammerofwrath saw the video trying to figure out what model you have and you got me wanting to do two armies space wolves and dark angels watching your videos and i wish i could go to japan it is so beautiful
Why not do a little of both armies! They don't have to be big - just a few test models!
@@thehammerofwrath i was wondering what nipper you use now the gohand or the mr hobby kind looking at getting some tools for doing warhammer minis
I use Mr. Hobby SINGLE-SIDED nippers. You can see them in action in the March Combat Patrol.
You have a floor next to the bandai namco arcade in akiba!? Is it still there? Do you live in Japan? Can you recommend any places/networks were i can find other foreign resident war gamers? Cheers :)
There is a discord group called "wargamers in Japan".
I mean you’re able to spend all your time on one hyper focused element of 40k. Of course you’re going to be able to create something that’s better than a coverall approach.
Well, it's not really about the time spent, but the fact that the official GW "Upgrade" sprues are so lacking in character.
The appeal of Space Wolves were the unique units - Grey Hunters, Blood Claws, Thunderwolf Calvary etc.. Having generic primaris units in a Space Wolves army feels wrong.
And that's why we spruce them up with themed bits! (although I'd LOVE some updated thunderwolf cavalry!)
Consider my pet pieced. Shaving of the Imperialis (That’s what they are called, not Aquilas) from marines is boring. You end up removing the distinctly 40K iconography that all chapters are supposed to wear proudly.
I dunno, I'm not super deep into the lore, but aren't the Wolves not all that worried about following the Codex Astartes? A lot of the artwork I see for them shows the armor without chest embellishment. (And sorry to pet your peeve!) :)
@@thehammerofwrath The winged skull icon, aka the Imperialis, is a badge of honor developed during the Heresy as a way to recognize loyalist forces. Admittedly, by the 41st millennium it became used as a badge of honor awarded to some Astartes to have the right to wear. I’ll also admit that art and models pre-Indomidus Space wolves don’t often have Imperialis badges and those that do have a jewel or wolf skull in place of the human skull. Even official art of Primaris, while mostly wearing the winged human skull, have the chest jewel or the wolf skull.
It still bothers me though to see it shaved off. That’s just me, I guess.
If you look closely, I stole one of the diamond shaped gems from the GW upgrade sprue that was on a pouch accessory, snipped it off, shaved down the skull on the Sgt.'s imperialis and replaced it with the gem! ;)
Should it be mandatory that all Space Wolves (and Leagues of Votann) should have magnificent beards, braids and possess booze?
Yes. Yes it should. Also, all axes and no swords!
@@thehammerofwrath here’s a fun idea:
A group of Space Wolves work as muscle for some Kindred, like how actual Vikings would be elite muscle for some kings. All the more reason to add beards, braids and other Viking goodies.
17:39 Clearly you have not used Vallejo Air Metalics yet.
I have NOT. Are they amazing?!
They are fantastic. If you want to airbrush bare metal aircraft, they are the best acrylic I have used to date. All so work well with brush painting.
It appears a trip to Akihabara is in order, then...
Why do they look so old. Space AARP Wolves 😭
I like my space vikings old and grizzled! (long-in-the-tooth, as it were)
Personal opinion
I like the idea of Greytide and even more so the other people who have been doing custom bits liek this for years like Artel (who still has some of the best bits you can buy), etc but I can't help but see Greytide scaling as a little off.
It feel like their bits are like 10% too big and it completely breaks the hero scaling GW uses making thing looks a little off and busy, I'm sure for people with 3d Printers that's easy to fix but for me it's huge turn off.
Credit where it's due though you did nice conversion work and painted them up well.
Thanks for the compliment. I did have to scale some of the parts used on my Dark Angels Lion's Guard last spring, but the wolf bits when on without a hitch.
It's easier to just 3d print my miniatures.. I get exactly what I want and for much cheaper, GW is no longer needed. Their manufacturing proccess, distribution scheme, and business model are stuck in the past. GW is going the way of Hasbro/WotC and many other companies that can't catch up to technology and what customers actually want.
3D printing is the future, but as it currently stands, it's far to niche to go mainstream. The skills needed for printing and handling the resin are far to high a barrier for most people, and 3D printing is a hobby unto itself. There will always be people who aren't interested in the intricacies involved and just want to buy miniatures. On top of that, I've yet to see a 3rd party mini that truly rivals the artistry of GW's sculpts.
What the hell are reavers?!
Its a kind of lightly armored space marine GW introduced in 2017. As a unit, almost NOBODY fields them because they have poor rules, and are superseded by other Phobos armored marine types.
ItsAGundam
I wish you wouldn't walk around filming yourself in Japan. I get it. You want a schtick for your videos. But your videos are great enough without it. I live here and have lived here for 14 years and could do without people walking around doing that. Cheers
I actually enjoy that! You’re lucky to know all this for the rest of us an extra bit of knowledge doesn’t hurt 🤷🏼♂️
You gotta clean your airbrush or adjust it or something--its spattering all over--sloppy
Eh, I used a little too much flow improver in the mix. In the end, what difference does it make? It's a priming coat that gets covered with the colors.
Space wolves suck. They have the lamest models. Don’t even get me started how stupid their wolverine squad is. Iykyk
Meh, anyone can do this with 3d printed bits.
Yes. That was the point of the video. Well done.
Space Wolves are cringe in every way