IDRIVEACLASSIC reviews: 1950s Panhard Dyna X86 Sprint
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- This video is about a Panhard Dyna X86 Sprint
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When researching this car, there wasn’t a mass of information online, so I was helped greatly by both Guy the owner of the car and Car Brochure Addict, twitter account addict_car who gave me a copy of the brochure for this particular car.
The Dyna X was sold as a spacious family car, with the leading message that the available space in the car in it’s entirety was split to a ratio of 75% space for your passengers, 10% for the engine bay and 15% for luggage in the boot and I’m sure you’ll agree that the car gives some of the larger cars on the market today a real run for their money leg room wise.
The design of the Dyna X wasn’t as straightforward as some of the cars we’ve shown on the channel and in fact, the design was put forward by Jean Albert Gregoire who prided himself on not building cars, but being a man who researched, assembled and developed prototypes.
And with this in 1940, he was tasked during the German occupation of France to present a prototype of the future french car of the people and with this he considered in his typically forward thinking way that the car would need to be economical in both construction and in use, meaning it needed to be light as possible.
And with that, prototype AFG came to light: aluminium Francais Gregoire - the prototype being presented in 1942.
The car was really different for the time and boasted a weight of 398 kilos for the body and chassis, a fuel consumption of 4 litres for every 100 kilometres driven at an average speed of 60 kilometres per hour and a maximum speed of 90 kilometres per hour.
This wasn’t where the revolutionary thinking stopped, because the car design had the engine placed ahead of the front axle which brought the weight forward and the modified layout of the clutch all meant the car had less wasted space in the engine bay and more space where it counted…inside the cabin.
Gregoire was keen to get the car to market and took the prototype to Citreon, Renault, Peugeot and Simca. The car was rejected by Citroen, Renault and Peugeot because they already had plans for their post war cars, the 2CV, the Renault 4CV and the Peugeot 203.
It was initially taken on by Simca for production, but due to complications, the car never reached production. This is where Panhard came in and badged the car as the Dyna - but did make a few key changes before bringing it to market.
It is worth noting that Panhard took this design on, despite being rejected by 3 big automotive names, because they had no car ready to launch to the post-war buying public which would suit public mood, political considerations and buying favour with the owners of the AFG prototype.
Going back to the prototype modifications, One of the changes was taking the AFG from a 2 to 4 door model because the French buying public at the time were not as keen on 2 door models. Other changes included redesigned grille and headlight housing.
The twin cam engine design which had been designed by Panhard as a part of a project for military vehicles was put into use and the engine was mounted in front of the front axle, keeping the front wheel drive element.
There were other differences on the final Dyna X design including the differential housing placed at the rear of the gearbox. Essentially, the layout wasn’t very different to Panhards which had preceded it.
It did mean however from the AFG to the final Dyna X design, weight increased by 38%.
Gregoire never got royalties on the AFG prototype and sued Panhard on it. Due to the design being taken to several companies, Panhard were able to wriggle out of paying anything and there are photographs online of the trial showing Monsieur Panhard handing over a cheque for 1 franc.
The Dyna X series was produced from 1948 until 1954, making the one we’re testing a later example. Of all Dyna X variants, just over 47 thousand were sold.
The X86, made from 1950 to 1953, as we’re testing here today was very much a learning from the X84 which had preceded it and was intended for a very up market, well to do audience. Although if you’ve ever watched Tin Tin, you’ll know he had a Dyna X!
This particular model shows the 1950 face lift where Panhard added chrome strips and a new grille and this was said to represent the twin cooling fans being replaced by a single one. The engine was increased to 745cc and was an increase of 28 brake horse power from the X84.
The X86 was replaced by the X87.
Now lets catch up with the owner Guy, who is taking this on a big adventure next year with Steve Berry, Phillip Newsome and Jeff Marshall as per the Austin 16 7 Capital Cities in 7 days trip in 2017…but this time, from Paris to Helsinki!
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When it comes to cars , the french are in a parallel universe . And that's a good thing .
I do totally agree!!! This universe is a wonderland...
I love french styling
I’ve originally heard this said of their military equipment but it seems to apply here, too: the French copy nobody and nobody copies the French.
Gallic uniqueness
Lovely underrated lady reviewer who deserves more subscribers , and an incredible iconic vehicle 🚗👍 Tam.
Thank you so much Tam x
Best reviewer there is in my opinion
I totally agree. Steph always gives an excellent description of the history behind the cars as well as a good commentary drive. I thoroughly enjoy her reviews.
Neat car and chockfull of charm...right up my alley. But I have to be honest what with all the rattles, ricketiness and wear and tear it had the word “deathtrap” popped into my mind once or twice.
I love Citroen, but one thing that really gets my dander up is the way they let Panhard wither on the vine. Try and get a test drive of a 24 CT Steph. In my mind it’s the only car which gives the CX a run for its money in the beauty stakes.
Yes, I love Citroën too (especially the CX), but I don't like the way they treated Panhard.
Well spoken!
Citroen didn't actually kill off Panhard- only with autos- they Panhard remained as a manufacture of armored military cars until a few years ago I think? Panhard is very well known with AMVs. The 24 is beautiful but has the same technology as the car she's in, it was a bit of a buzz-box and out of step with everything else by the late 60s!
Such a eccentric and lovely car. In Citroens, 'D' is for Demarrage (translated in English: 'Start-up'). I have a '74 Dyane as a daily driver (if you'd like a go), it's truly the last Panhard. Designed in the mid-late 60's by the same team of talented designers from Panhard, after Citroen bought the struggling company in January 1965.
Of course I would. Please get in touch.
Now that would be a good video
That is just the best face on a car I have seen for ages.
I know right?!
😆LOL! I googled the car model yesterday and that exact car came up. I guess it's a very rare breed!
What a beautiful car! Full of character. Another brilliant review
I am so pleased for you that you could get hold on a Dyna for your channel. For me as a French car lover it gets better every week ☺️
Ah, the quirky French automobile. Consider, all this happened in the United States. My neighbor had a Renault Dauphine (actually 3. One to drive, two for parts) and a good friend, a R8. Never knew whether they were coming or going, unlike this Panhard. Then again, I had a roommate with several Borgward Isabellas. 1960's Japanese cars are very quirky. My friend's Subaru 360 only had 25 hp, but was very light. I think you would find Japanese vehicles of that era interesting. And thank you for bringing us the rare and unusual.
For some reason, I thought you had recently reviewed the Triumph Stag. Maybe a dream? Something for the future? Anyway, I remember this car because the rental lot I worked at then had one. Not so popular in the U.S., because people here didn't see Triumph as a luxury mfg,. and our TR-6 was just as quick. I remember the V8 being the basis for the TR-7 and Saab four. Offered to Rover, but they already had the 3.5L V8 from Buick. Just a little 3am trivia.
nice video I am restoring the last of 6 right hand drive X85s imported into New Zealand in 1951. Lovely little cars. Your is a bit odd. It has the heater inlet on the engine side but no demister outlets in the dashboard. I suspect the dash board is an earlier model and the round clock and temprature guage are add ons . The RS gearbox on that model did have some synchro, I suspect yours is now u/s??
Have fun on your European jaunt guys. Such a Paris Helsini trip was made early in the models life with great success The car also did well in competition.
For a moment I thought you said "Take a small port before changing gear".
You can do if you like, or a small bite of your baguette.
@@idriveaclassic Port isn't very French though. Seriously, I think you would get used to the double de-clutching. It doesn't help that you are stretching in the opposite direction at the same time to find the gear. You could also extend the gear lever a little towards the driver if that was thought necessary to help the situation.
@@3vom918 I once watched a German children's film from the 1970s, featuring a robber living in the woods and two boys trying to catch him. It's based on a book series by Ottfried Preussler and probably set (vaguely) in the 1930s. Anyway, near the end of the film, said robber tries to escape in a 1930s fire engine and manages to change down beautifully with a double de-clutch! He's a pretty good driver for someone living in a cave in the woods I'd say :-D
The movie ends with the steering wheel coming off in his hands, causing him to drive straight into the prison gate.
Absolutely the Most French car ever!
Great review as always. I think you did magnificently considering the exceptional, and typically French quirkiness of this delightful vehicle.
Thanks for watching!
Great review and test drive of a fabulous car, Steph. Very interesting. Panhard always did things their own way. May be odd, but the work. Panhard created the transverse axle locater bar, the Panhard Rod, that should have been standard on all cars with a solid axle.
Steph, you're brilliant! I love your channel and so glad you are making videos on these fab cars.
Great report and test drive Steph A very rare typical odd French car great little engine
OMG i love that car it is stunning great video
Unusual looking car. It proves the old adage "France is a country of beautiful women and strange looking cars"!
Hi Steph, from Stephen in Hong Kong Thanks for another Great review 👍. Think You were quite brave to drive this unique French car. Keep up the Great work Love the diversity of cars on your channel and appreciate your enthusiasm and commitment to give us so many Great episodes 😃👍.
Thank you so much for watching!
A Louis XV furniture style car. I wish you to review a 24CT, Louis Bionier Panhard's testament (he also designed the Citroën Dyane a few years after).
What an amazing car. Love it.
Well done Steph. The Panhard is a wonderful car and ever rarer in Australia.
I didn’t know they existed over there!
@@idriveaclassic only as private imports.
I remember these being thrashed across France in period. The Autocar tested one in 1951 and gave it a rave review. Of the gearchange they said "changes can be made with great facility by double declutching as soon as the driver has the knack which is easily acquired." They also tested a Morris Minor (918cc) which was absolutely blown away. The Panhard was 10mph ahead on top speed and took 16 seconds (not 1.6!) less on 0-50.
Another great vid Steph! Really enjoy and look forward to my weekly fix of randomness 🤣 We should be thanking you! Here's to the next 20,000 people lucky enough to find your channel 👌
Aww thanks Darran x
The side reminds me of a beetle crossed with a minor
Nah, a minor and a beetle WISH they were this wonderfully eccentric.
@@idriveaclassic could’ve easily got their inspiration from this, who knows?
Well in the video we discuss how the 2CV was in the offing when this prototype was presented. Minor was released late 40s and something Issigonis had spent some time on x
@@idriveaclassicoh yeah of course! I mean, not stating the obvious, but they all had their fair share in late 30s/40s styling!
Double de clutch Steph, and do not rush the gear change pause momentarily between the gears, i would not say the engine sounds agricultural, it sounds like a twin cylinder motorbike engine!!
This is wonderful! I love the Dyna! A Dyna 24CT is my mascot here lol... you said you couldnt find much online about it but I feel like I learned a ton from what you put in the video- including everything regarding Gregoire and the trial (that's sadly a mark against PAnhard there). Also your explanation of why the grille looks like that- now it makes sense you can actually see the 'fan' motif and the two sides of it representing the horizontally opposed cylinders lol. The only thing I could add was that they built this car because French gov't subsidized automakers to produce all-aluminum (to save on steel, in short supply cuz the war) cars 'for the people'- called "Plan Pons". Hence the 2CV, Renault 4CV, the Dyna..
Love it! Panhard were so wacky they were taken over by 'sensible and sober' Citroen haha :-)
And what a shame that was
@@idriveaclassic Yes - and in turn, Citroen were taken over by sensible Peugeot. A pity we've lost idiosyncratic cars like the Panhard and the 'real' citroens...
Not often I hear Citroëns described as "sensible"!
@@Howlingd0g haha - no. But Panhard were even more bonkers. :-)
What a great car to celebrate 20k subs! I love the condition! These cars, that show their age, are much more appealing to me than any concours-resto look!
I totally agree!
This year your reviews have just been getting better and better, and the variety is like no other channel. Here's to the next 20K, you definitely deserve it.
Aww thanks so much!
Not nagging, just a detail: I think “D” stands for “démarrage”
Sorry!
Yep démarreur. Also just a little pedantic but it's pronounced "Panar" I love Panhard especially the pl17. Great vid as always Steph.
PaNAR, stress on the last syllable as always in French. I wouldn't get on with the crashbox either! The crankshaft has roller bearings, so it's good you didn't lug it--that would have trashed the bearings.
Magnifique - merci, Steph! Your video captures perfectly the endearing weirdness of Panhards. It would be great if you could do a review some time of one of the later designs - the Dyna Z, the PL17 or the beautiful 24ct or 24bt. George
Hey Steph and Congrats on reaching the 20,000 mark 🎈🥂Damn I only caught the last 2 mins of the live 😂 Another awesome video and car to add to the archive . Never seen one of these before. As always keep up the great work 👍
Thanks for watching! It’s a properly special car ❤️
Great video Steph ! I love french classics ! The mash of innovation and idiosyncrasies that you get with old french cars makes you smile 😊
Non syncro gearboxes need the" double clutch touch" on each shift.
I know ;). It was still very tricky.
C’était ma première voiture en 1960... exact il faut pratiquer le double débrayage et passer les vitesses avec délicatesse...sinon tenue de route excellente ( sur la neige) mais forte consommation d’huile!
Fascinating stuff. I'm glad to hear the development of this channel has been good for you.
Thank you for watching Mark ☺️
Well done for choosing the Panhard, and a big thankyou to Guy ( and Chris McPheat) . If my 24CT was running I'd let you drive it but I'm still waiting for an engine to be built, maybe next year ?
Deffo x
Love how you are reviewing such rare cars. This one must 'take the cake' for sure! Would love to see a future review of the full-size Citroen DS (a car I so wanted as a teen but dad said 'no'). So appreciate your channel and yes that was "bonkers!"
We’ve got a DS booked, don’t panic!
idriveaclassic Hooray!!!! Just love your channel! Always wondering what's up next!
Lovely review. There's a wonderful book by David Beare called 'Panhard, the Flat - Twin Cars 1945-1967 and Their Origins'. It is a really good read. I'm Panhard fan as well and looking for a PL17. Extraordinarily engineered cars.
You are doing a superb job and are a real change from 30something beardy men roaring about in a McLaren from their collection of 10 sat in a garage. You are well researched, positive and give an interesting view on cars which old men like me knew when they were new and now remember with nostalgia and yet delight that we don’t have them any more...too many were horrible!! So well done...keep going..keep testing! Richard.😃😃😃😃😃
Thanks for watching Richard!
Quirky with a capital Q! Looking at the outside, the indicators seem like an afterthought. However, the stalk on the dashboard says otherwise, so I guess that they were an original fitment.
you and other channels have kept us going thru the lockdown steph, who knows where we would be mentally without you guys and gals. you all keep us sane lol
100% this! I often have on one of Steph's videos while working!
Steph this is one of my favorite reviews from you. Right up there with the Simca Aronde review you did! Congratulations on reaching 20k! Here’s to many more!
I forgot about the Simca! Loved that car
C’est fantastique stephanie 😀 I’ve to say Guy French is pretty darn good 👍 few years ago they were a Dyna Z ( following gen ) parked next to our car in the car park
I admire the unique French styling and engineering.
Me too! It’s so stand out.
Well done Steph great review
Double clutching is a learned art. Depress the clutch, pull out of gear, let out the clutch, depress the clutch, engage the next gear.
I know :)
As discussed in comments thread below, this still wasn’t engaging with the double declutch I use when driving my morris minor.
Excellent stuff thank you...brilliant...its appearance reminds me of a Chrysler PT..the gearchanges are not dissimilar although the Panhard appears to handle a lot better 🤔
Haha! The PT wishes it was this cool.
Thank you. Great review. I love this car.
What's the red reflector under the bonnet?
Oh I’m not sure. I’ll find out.
@@idriveaclassic I put it there to block up a hole that had a pipe connected to it to feed warm air from above the right hand cylinder to the interior.
you've really outdone yourself, what a lovely car and what a lovely video. this must be the pinnacle of French quirkiness! I feel a bit sorry for the next car, it can only look a bit mundane next to this one. my absolute favorite car channel on TH-cam!
Haha the next car is pretty special too!
Aw your message at the end was very wholesome!
Thanks ❤️
Double-declutching should make the gearbox easy to handle. Definitely a skill worth acquiring, especially for Fiat 500s and and pre-1930s stuff. I used to drive Bristol Lodekka buses and was terrified of the gearboxes at first, but once I for the hang of it they became my favourite bus to drive. Clutch-less changes were also possible without any drama, which felt lovely and saved the left leg some serious work. Not sure I'd try that on this old Panhard, though!
I can double de clutch having driven a 948 knackered Morris minor box for years. This was far far trickier.
@@idriveaclassic Oh my, that sounds like a very tricky gearbox indeed! Could be an interesting drive for the team going from Paris, by the sounds of it. Thanks for bringing this road test to us.
Wooooowwww, a Panhard....!!!
I've been saving this video up to watch when I had chance... and I have to say it didn't disappoint Steph. Those bonnet scallops, is that the word, are gorgeous. I loved the potted history. I'm guessing the gearbox needs the dreaded double declutching which I haven't done for eons.
I have a request if that's okay? If you ever get a chance would you do a video on the Peugeot 402 Eclipse. I know they're pretty rare but if anyone can come across one it's you. Thanks.
Aww thanks Sophie xxx
Amazing car ! Thanks for video
What a funky little car! 👍❤️
I got excited when I saw this on my front page. Now I'm disappointed about the four hour wait.
Ahh sorry x
French car manufacturrors used to be the greatest engineers in the world.
This is just such an engineering masterpiece as the Citroen 2CV, the Renault 4 and the Citroen DS.
So true.
The styling details on the front of the car are the best! Lovely Art Deco influences on the indicators. And the grill! It’s fantastic. The 5 little scoops on the sides of the bonnet look like a 1950s American influence. Another super video from Steph!!’
Thanks so much. It was such a lovely car to borrow.
Really liked the video, been watching your channel for ages but first time I have commented as I mentioned in the email I sent you the other day. This is such a cool car but also very quirky, i love it, it also has a 2CV vibe to it inside or is that just me? How was this compared to the Citroen AX or the Visa you drove recently? Thanks also to the owner for letting us see how nice these cars are.
Honestly this was a million times harder to drive but my favourite looks wise.
This is great...you have REALLY done your homework.....car is very cool.......really fugly cool.....but that's OK.......If the car has mechanical failures, or gets hit (hope NOT)......WHERE would you get parts/spares for this vehicle? Or is it pretty well all a big exercise in a labour/fabrication learning curve......
Thanks for this! Fascinating!
I've watched (as a german RR enthusiast) quite a few car videos of the usual suspects from Britain and the US but Steph has always been a class of her own. Carry on, dear! I can't wait for the first Armstrong Siddeley you are testing!
The Dyna really is a special car, I also love to see you testing more Panhards!
Oh wow! This is going to be interesting . Very much looking forward to this one
Thank you for your great videos. Always entertaining.
Thanks for watching the video 😊😊
What's a lovely car! The engine's sound I find it similar to the 2cv. In fact its architecture is similar too (boxer 2 cyl aircooled with a front big fan).
but it was much more powerful and sohpisticated, with speeds around 110, 120 or 130km/h, depending on the engine. Reputation of winning more than 1000 races is not a legend
Tuning in from the USA (New England), I've long been a fan!! My first date, @18 yrs, was in her father's 1960 Hillman, would you believe. He collected British cars!
Here's a link to the driving video I made when selling the car for my customer. I sourced it for him from Gallery Aalderling in The Netherlands in 2013 and really enjoyed the 7 years it spent in his ownership as he kept it at my place I got to drive it whenever I wanted. th-cam.com/video/uDL0ueUBLiQ/w-d-xo.html
I also have a Dyna X the only driving break in Germany. It has the bigger 850cc with 2 HP. So you are invited to come and test here in Baden-Baden!
You have a terrific channel. Always something different. I can't believe you are driving a Panhard Dyna, I have always wondered what they were like. Thank you for showing us this amazing car. Cheers 👍🎈🎉
Pauline you’re so lovely ❤️
@@idriveaclassic 😊
C'est magnifique. Merci Steph pour un bonne vidėo.
toutes nos félicitations pour les 20K abonnės, une grande réussite.
Merci d'avoir regardé ma vidéo ❤️❤️❤️
@@idriveaclassic De rein.
What a superb car and very cute video. I've had a weak spot for Panhard ever since I laid eyes on a 24CT as a kid on holiday in France. I now own a 55 Dyna Z1 which yet has to be completed. One of the very last full alloy bodied cars. However, all of this is not the reason for this reply. I also own a 1949 Citroën 11B. This Citroën has been built by the Citroën works of Forest near Brussels Belgium, instead of the Paris factory (or the one in Slough GB for you British watchers). Now I know the Forest factory assembled Panhard as well, although I have no idea which models or in what years. I do not think Citroën already owned part of the Panhard shares when this here particular Dyna X was produced, but looking at the interior cloth, I'm very much thinking it might be a Forest built car. For one single reason and, hence the detour to my Citroën, the cloth and style of finishing are exactly the same as on my car. These Forest interiors vary from the Paris built Citroëns in various ways, including the cloth. Therefor I'm very curious if by any chance the car in this video might be a Forest assembled car just as well? Anyone here who knows?
Bonjour, C'est dommage, je ne parle et comprends pas la langue Anglaise..la petite Dyna est un bon choix, son entretien est rigoureux ....Merci pour le Partage ... !
I'm not sure I've ever seen one of these before, I'm looking forward to learning about it!
Wonderfully eccentric, characterful car and interesting and informative video, thanks Steph. Did you try double de-clutching when changing gear?
Thanks! 1930's US Packard meets early Citron 2CV and they have a kid. Weird and wonderful!
Panhard is pronounced Poor-har !! The firm amalgamated with Citroen around 1965.
That is a Panhard that I wasn't familiar with, and it WAY exceeds the wackiness of later, larger models. The dashboard is quite nice, in the middle at least. And I can see why the gearbox causes such distress -- no synchros, long shift throws, awkwardly long reach for the shifter, and vexingly vague location of reverse. That is a lot of bad design in one component! But it did succeed in moving people around in some sort of comfort and at fairly low cost, which were no doubt part of the design criteria. It reminds me of the US Crosley of 1946-54, both in crudeness (despite both having interesting engines of about the same size) and appearance. Piles of smiles generated in all who see them go by, as was true of a lot of small cars in that period.
Nickname of this car was Louis XV because it loiks like 18th century furniture.
Hi Steph your looking gorgeous as always. Wow what beautiful old car you can definitely tell it's French by the styling. I must admit I have never seen one of these before but I recon it would be lots of fun once you got used to the non synchro gear box. Stay safe and I look forward to your next video.👍
Deffo. I think it was something I needed a day or two in really.
Very interesting and informative feature on Panhard Dyna Stephanie. It reminds me of a Renault 2
I'm 65 now and lived in France for almost a year and I've never seen one till now. I like the string hammocks above the front window.
Wishing Guy a fantastic trip for next Year
what a wonderful French classic car and I was just wondering would you drive the Panhard 24ct ?.
as a child here in the U.S. my grandfather had a Panhard PL 17 he drove to work everyday, his other car was a 55 Oldsmobile Rocket 88, Gram refused to ride in the Panhard but we kids loved it!
Bonkeurs! I reckon you could get used to the gearchange given more time, it's suprising just what can become normal with enough familiarity. If you had a couple of weeks with it there'd probably be no problem.
They were a well respected rally car when they were current. I suspect this wasn't because of the terrifying power the car produces but because of the suprisingly good handling, much in the same way the two-stroke Saabs were also rally legends back in the day.
Your vids are always an absolute pleasure to watch!
French made some really interesting cars, and some real dogs too.
Panhard and Citroen came up with some innovative designs in the 50s & 60s.
Good review. Tip: learn your lines.
I love a survivor. I adore a car that is basic and simple and has signs of having been actually driven and used. It doesn't have to be fast or even all that pretty, but a survivor has character and charm. That horizontally-opposed two cylinder gets the job done, obviously. And double-clutching is rapidly becoming something of a lost art.
I'd be proud to have this in my garage.
Steph I love watching your videos! Old French cars are so interesting! I can imagine that net in the headlining full of onions and garlic and shallots and maybe cheeses, and a bottle of wine stuck in the door pocket! J'aime beacoup les voitures Francaises!
Thanks for another great video, Steph. You really do a great job presenting these old cars to us. Also, you remind me of my granddaughter Ashlyn, although she does not have a British accent. You are a real sweetheart just like her. Keep up the good work.
"The French don't copy anyone and nobody copies the French" used to be an axiom in the auto industry. That turn signal/light switch puts the lie to that, though. Ford even copied the stalk-mounted horn button for a brief time in the early '80s.
I knew I liked French cars, love Citroens. But I adore Panhards … dearly want a Dyna Junior or Barchetta…
Driving crash box vehicles is very difficult to someone used to driving moderns, but once you lear how it's fun, I have driven lots of vintage buses and a few old wagons.
It's not magic or a black art, just matching the engine speed to road speed for the gear you want to select.
That little car was amazingly advanced in both style and performance for it's time.
Lovely car. Do prefer the later models of Panhard with their central light in the grill but I like this one too. Low weight is the clue to performance and economic cars. The American saying there is no substitute for cubic inches I dislike. Finesse and French go hand in hand, with quirkiness!
I've always liked French cars, not least because the French have such a different idea of what is normal. To appreciate them, especially the small cars, you need to think about them from first principles, and then you can understand just how rational they are.
Who says the H in Panhard? Might as well say the E in Citroen or pronounce the G in Peugeot like Peu-goat and be consistent in mangling French names.
Nothing quite like it. It's distinctive, with plenty of charm.
Such a rare car! My Mum had a Renault 6 when I was little, and its gearbox and handbrake were similarly challenging.
Great video Steph. I love old French stuff. If you can make it to Ireland your welcome to review my government spec Citroen DS. It's semi-auto so double declutching isn't an issue 😁
Oh wow thank you x
Oh, I'd love to see that. Do it, Steph!
This is one of your most delightful videos. I love your channel.
Thanks so much Robert ☺️
Not seen or heard of one of these cars . Lots of character as all old French cars have . Love the video and will keep watching more of your lovely videos . Byeeeee for now 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃x
The internet says this model should be 36hp, which is actually not bad for its weight :)
Anyway, thanks for the video and hello from a Frenchman who has never seen one of these on the road in his life!
Can't wait ! 😊👍
Montage des vitres de portière de la dyna x 86 panhard