5 Obscure Touhou Facts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Do you already know a lot about The Touhou Project? This video will try to go over some more obscure facts that you may not have known. Come test your knowledge and maybe learn something new or claim intellectual victory.
0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Fact #1
2:08 - Fact #2
5:09 - Fact #3
6:08 - Fact #4
7:59 - Fact #5
9:02 - Fact #6
9:38 - Outro
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1. Touhou girls mostly wear skirts because gensokyo doesn’t have many tailors. Most of the characters have to maintain their own clothing and skirts are cheap and easy to make so they just go with that.
Source: zun interview
2. Cirno draws her power directly from god(esse)s. All fairies draw their power from natural lifeforces but misty lake doesn’t really have any. In the outside world however the lake is known as lake suwa. Lake suwa is known for a natural phenomenon called the omiwatari which is a unique ice formation that manifests in the lake. This ice formation is said to be gods traveling across the lake. Cirno draws her lifeforce from the omiwatari which is the reason why she is so powerful.
Source: great fairy wars
3. The hakurei shrine maidens most likely inherited their name and power from mount haku.
Source: Portrait of exotic girls
4. Tei inaba hates the lunarians because they imprisoned Daikoku. Daikoku was the dude who helped Tei after getting her buttocks torn asunder by a shark and she was very grateful and showed him how to have good luck. Later the lunarians imprisoned Daikoku as part of their conquest of japan on the behalf of lord Tsukoyomi’s sister Ameratsu. To this day Daikoku remains the only person Tei truly cares about and she teamed up with the lunarian traitors Kaguya and Eirin in order to find out everything about lunarian society and weaponry. She plans to one day mount a rescue operation to free Daikoku. Eventually. Someday. But first Reisen needs some more pranking.
Source: Silent Sinner in Blue
5. Meiling’s sleeping almost destroyed the entire world. During Hisotensoku Meiling dreams about Taisui Xingjun who manifests in the form of a giant catfish avatar in order to destroy the world. Since this was just a dream though there wasn’t much consequence from it. That is until you Antimony of Common Flowers where several dream world inhabitants start being pulled into the real world. One of these is Taisui’s catfish avatar who teams up with dreamworld Tenshi in order to destroy the world for real. They are both defeated by Joon and Shion though so crisis averted. This only happens if you play the game on overdrive difficulty which you unlock by beating the game on lunatic difficulty.
Source: Antimony of common flowers
Wow, you even pulled from Portrait of exotic girls. Not bad!
@@GensouChronicle I coulda pulled from clash house too but that ones canonicity is very debatable.
What is Portrait of exotic girls? I couldn't find it on the wiki and a google search brought back very wrong results
Bruh why does my response to Matt keep disappearing???
@@magicyber909 Ah... I can tell you it's not my doing at least. I think your posts may be getting interpreted as illegitimate. I tried to see if I have any option to 'salvage' your posts, but they don't even appear under 'waiting for review' for me.
Touhou lore be like: time to practice the religion of Shinto, Buddhism, Taoism
And a sprinkle of Western mythology for flavor.
I've heard of patchouli being a western magician with eastern themes but calling her a weeb cracked me up. Everything else was new to me, great video.
Thanks. Glad to hear you learned some things!
The last one is also applied to Remi and Flan
You're actually right! I had it in my original script and it slipped out between edits and such. There's more than likely several more too, but thanks for pointing that out for people.
Man, Akyuu sounds way different to how I imagined.
Lore is one hell of a drug.
It's just Akyuu talking with the voice of one of her precious incartations.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about an actual obscure fact: Patchouli's pajama, the stripes are supposedly creases but the artists in Twilight Frontiers mistaken them as stripes.
There wouldn't have been much to say about that one. Most of these facts I could follow up with supplementary stuff. Though, I think 'design misinterpretations' might be a large enough net to warrant its own video.
Huh really? It seems weird because on Patchouli's original portrait, ZUN drew horizontal creases with the lineart pen.
I thought it may have been a sash round her neck.
It's funny to know that Hatate actually has a "higher rank" than Megumu, yet the fandom treats Megumu as the superior.
Strictly speaking, Megumu is probably higher than her in the work hierarchy, being a Daitengu. For example, the patrol tengu like Momiji report to a Daitengu like Megumu. It's more likely that this higher ranking Hatate possesses is bloodline related. We can't really say anything for sure without more information though. Now if ZUN were to show us Tenma-sama... that would REALLY be a treat. Hope that helps!
@@GensouChronicle Yhea, more or less that's what I thought, hopefully we'll see more tengus with the other colors.
Btw, Great video! I know it's hard but I hope you can do more of this or some other topic with Touhou.
@@mush-broom I have the next video's audio recorded. I'm hoping to maintain a realistic timeline of a video once every 1.5-2 weeks. As much as I'd like to do them once a week, I want to maintain editing quality, but also have to balance everything else I do in a week. The next few videos will be a bit less serious, just to save the good ones for as I go.
@@GensouChronicle That's fantastic! your organization is appreciated.
Looking forward for those videos.
hatate supremacy real?
not sure how obscure it is, but i love reminding people that in pc-98 canon marisa owns a sentient ICBM capable of destroying the world as a pet
also a bit of trivia about song names, ZUN uses the words "mystic", "maple", and "dream" quite a lot in his song titles, as evidenced by the fact that there are three separate songs titled "Mystic Maple", "Maple Dream", and "Mystic Dream" (in fact Mystic Dream is used twice in two different songs, one from Mystic Square and one from PCB)
heres a further elaboration on the mimi chan thing that most people dont know:in the series mimi came from originally, there was in fact a companion or some such relation for her in the primarily black sentient icbm named bear-kun
It's interesting how Hatate has been recontextualized in Foul Detective Satori in such a way that her being ranked above Megumu doesn't seem so implausible.
When she started out, she was a joke character that was the less successful version of Aya because her thoughtogtaphy was a really bad match for journalism. She also didn't get a full theme song and her spellcard had a really low score in Grimoire of Usami's contest.
However, it seems Aya let being the faster reporter boost her ego to the point that she started writing entries that varied between kicking people when they are down (bad endings in Touhou 18 show her writing a report about the player character losing) to just plain libel (rewriting Miko's speech about healthy living into a "build a wall" copypasta and editing a Kakashi Spirit News article about Sumireko to emphasize her rival's supposed biased reporting). And while she didn't publish Alternate Facts in Eastern Utopia, the fact that what persuaded her was the threat of her articles actually becoming the truth really says something about how she acts nowadays.
Meanwhile, the real Kakashi Spirit News article shows an almost purely informative point of view, which is definitely a positive over Bunbunmaru's fast but dishonest approach. Finally in FDS, thoughtography turns out to be very useful for archiving information that Aya didn't even know about and Hatate's habit working inside is vindicated under the threat of being possessed.
I'm just happy to see her relevant tbh.
So, here we are. My first video. Had to learn video editing and such from scratch, but I'm happy with how it turned out for a first try. It can only go up from here.
How many of these facts did you know? Most of these I did research to get, and a couple like the color compliment bit I noticed on my own.
Edit: Also, for those of you with a bit of music savvy, you may have noticed that I blundered the musical note allocation! The first two notes are much smaller, and everything else is half the 'size' I called it. As far as the new numerical sequence goes, it's mostly the same, except the '4's are '2's instead. The Morse Code charts are still accurate except for the bottom one which can be thrown out completely. Thanks to johnny joemori for pointing this out. I'm actually mad I messed this up considering I played piano for YEARS lol.
Great first entry, looking forward to what you'll make next :D
do you still have the momiji drawing that you used at 3:49?
Hi there. I’m pretty damned new to the series, but learning this stuff is super cool as well!!!!
Just found out your channel from my brother and Touhou has been one of things that leaves great impact in our life. I just want to let you know that your channel is really like a treasure for us and bring us back to our geeky childhood memories. Apparently, it's been so long since last we kept in touch with Touhou and your videos spark our little fantasy again. Thank you so much for bringing Gensokyo back to us!
I'm really happy to hear this! I have a really nice relationship with my brother as well, so I'm glad to hear this brought back some memories.
I know about...
Marisa and Patchouli being counterparts thematically as well as color complementary as well as other characters being color complementary to each other.
The rest was a cool look into obscure facts that are good to know.
I'm relatively new to Touhou, so this was all pretty new to me--I didn't even know the myth about "love" in Patchouli's theme. These more serious analyses of the design choices present in the series are exactly the kind of content I love to see!
Glad to hear. I felt there was a need for that sort of focus and I want to use my nearly two decades of knowledge into the fray.
Wonderful video, love to see somewhat serious and lore based coverage of the series :)
I can't promise everything will be serious, or that it'll be in this format, but I'm definitely hoping to do some more transformative content than simply 'Touhou 6 review' or 'popular 20 year old fangame review'.
Great video! Now here's a fact you may or may not know: Flandre's name romanized properly is actually "Flandoll/Flandoor". The katakana when written is フランドール which comes out to "furandouru". If her name was "Flandre" instead of "Flandoll/door" the kana would look like フランドラ.
Now for a theory: I believe that Flandre's name is "Flandoll" and not "Flandoor" because her character is thematically linked to "And Then There Were None" by Agatha Christie, a novel about a mortar mystery on a secluded island. Flan's theme "U.N. Owen Was Her?" is a direct reference to this book, with "U.N. Owen" being the patron who invited the ten guests to the island. In the story, there are ten china dolls representing the ten people present. After each mortar a doll disappears. It would not be a stretch to assume part of her name is in reference to these dolls. (You could even posit that Flandre's backstory about being in a locked room for hundreds of years is a tangential reference to the locked rooms found in mortar mysteries and ATTWN.)
"U.N. Owen Was Her" also appears as the eleventh track in ZUN's album "Dolls in Pseudo Paradise". The theme of dolls reoccurs, with the CD's original story being a poem inspired by ATTWN's epigraph "Ten Little Soldier Boys"-- a nursery rhyme written by Frank Greene in 1869. The album's title is both a reference to the setting of the ATTWN, as the isle appeared innocuous at first, and a metaphor for the darker side of Gensokyo. ZUN has also made later references to Agatha Christie with Akyuu taking on the pen name "Agatha Chris Q." in FS.
On a final note, Flandre's name is not the only one erroneously translated. Maribel is "Maeriberi/Maerybery/Maerryberry" as the kana reads マエリベリ. If her name was "Maribel" it would be written as マリベル or メリベル. There is also ancient debate that states Rumia is actually "Lumia" too.
Personally, I prefer "Flandre" instead of "Flandoll", even if it it incorrect; Flandoll sounds a bit silly, Flandre is at least a real name.
P.S. I had to spell mortar like "mortar" because TH-cam automatically deleted my previous comment because of it.
Lol. Guess what the new video is on. Commonly mispronounced characters. I'll be going over several more names though.
As for Flandre's name. I actually like the idea of Flandol, which is something I bring up in my video. I also go over the actual origin of every EoSD character as a side note. I think that part of what makes it look weird might be years and years of exposure to Flandre.
@@GensouChronicle About pronunciation.
At 9:32 you pronounced Jo'on as "Joon." While I guess it's unnatural to say for a foreigner to say a syllable that start at the vowel, the Japanese way of pronouncing it would be splitted.じょおん Notice how after the hiragana of Jo it's followed by o. Meaning that the o is pronounced separately as Jyo-on.
While to be fair. This is unnatural sounding in English. I suggest pronounce it as "John" which make it funnier
@@exciton9861 Yeah, I stopped doing this recently. It's a bit unnaturally in Japanese even, since an elongated 'o' sound is replaced with an 'ou' whereas Jo'on keeps the second 'o' as per how the name is formed. It's not too hard to pronounced thankfully, but I would say it's a common mistake like pronounced cirno as 'sirno'.
You can't imagine how suprisend I was when I clicked on your channels videos to see more just to realize it's your only and first video, I actually subscribed. I am looking forward, you look very promising
This comment made me smile irl. I actually feel kind of bad though, because this next video is a lot less 'serious' and not at all lore related. (Though, the channel will be 90% that as I go on.) In any case, thanks for the encouragement.
i usually avoid these kinds of videos, but you surprised me with actual "obscure touhou facts" that were both lesser known and actually backed up with evidence (unlike some other, bigger channelCOUGH)
i liked it
I appreciate it. I want to thoroughly explain each fact I present, not just so people have a complete understanding of it, but because instead of a single fact it's like learning lots of smaller facts in between it all.
It was quite interesting to see Momiji, who was in a higher position than she's lower Load, being briefed by she's own Load.
I actually didn't know some of these, so pretty good stuff. Knew about the tengu ranks and hatate being in the higher rank, as well as the statue of liberty and the western/eastern stuff going on with marisa and patchouli. Would like to see more if more if there's more worth making videos on, which surely there is
Oh, don't worry. I'm sitting on TONS of stuff at this point. The only thing slowing me down is video editing time.
I knew about the tengu ones, but the real question is: Will ZUN make an Red and a Yellow tengu as well? That would be dope
I really liked this, most of the info was unknown to me and I really look foward for a second part
Might be a while for a second part of 'obscure facts', but I'm hoping to do other format videos that will give equally informative content.
What a great start for your channel brother. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words. I'm hard at working continuing the streak.
8:12 魔理沙 is a westaboo. Got it. Keep it up
カウボーイ魔理沙!
Whoo, another Touhou lore channel! Instant sub!
Can't wait to watch more of your work!
More to come! Stay tuned.
Very interesting video that dive into the more less traverse part of touhou. Keep it up.
Thanks. I'm hoping to do more videos on atypical topics about the series. I'll slowly be working my way into the stranger ones. Stay tuned!
Funnily enough I knew some of these things because a friend would just go on and on about Touhou lol Im still new to all this stuff too but this was really well presented and overall informative and entertaining great vid
this sounds like my knowledge about touhou being tested, just because of that goddamn Persona 3 music on the background (Out-of-topic-but-still-related-with-the-video obscure fact)
great video and great debut! eager to see more of your videos!
Thanks!
Touhou knowledge increased
Really amazed on the last one
Lots of stuff I didnt knew
Good job
Banger video!
Thanks. Love your lore videos as well!
@@GensouChronicle Thanks!
I always wondered why that Shibayan song was called that. Now it all makes sense (to a degree)
Only fact I knew already was the LOVE misunderstanding, mostly I was told about it as trivia once before. I actually thought that the fan album named the song and used the morse code thing as a reference to the rumor and not the other way around, though.
Not that I mind. I came here to learn, after all, and you certainly delivered!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You could also make the case that orange and blue for Ringo And Seiran
Yeah, the more you look, the more you'll find. And the more characters we get, the more we'll see.
@@GensouChronicle I'd love to see who else. Maybe Kanako and Suwako since Yellow haired Suwako and purplish haired Kanako.
I knew these all, try more obscure stuff I'd love to learn something new about my favorite series
Now this is interesting. Good Job 👍
Keep it up m8, you're doing Gods Work.
o7 Editing the next one as we speak.
@@GensouChronicle bless ya
woah, i just realized this was uploaded on my birthday.
wow so interesting video and well explained, subscribed
Awesome, thank you!
"I'm pretty sure most of the people who watch these videos are already fans and are decently knowledgeable about the series."
Me, a random guy who's been bingeing these videos despite knowing nothing about Touhou, never played the games, or read any of the manga: "Haha, yeah, that's sure me."
Lol. Yeah, my audience has started to diversify a lot now that several of my videos have taken off beyond the Touhou niche.
@@GensouChronicle I should honestly play some of the Touhou games some time lol. I love a good hard game.
Nice vid !
9:12 - tfw green patchouli in timeline where Marisa stayed a redhead (also yellow sanae sounds cursed)
Patchouli's evil twin, Gratchouli. She is exactly the same as Patchouli except green.
Also, with the colour wheel thing, we can put Okina and Yukari on there because of their main colour
Yeah, I suppose you can!
Touhou lore is hard af...
A lot of it is just accumulating knowledge over many years. It's fun though.
This is a good channel
Thanks!
the complimentary color thing is interesting
nah this part of Locked Girl is played the most because it's a god damn banger lol
I see, that means that Alice never stood a fucking chance
This is cool subscribed
Appreciated!
Goooood, gooood
Guess i gotta step up my game, seeing as we're getting more actually good touhou youtube channels 👀
Might as well add this but good video!
Thanks!
Fuckin love it, I need more
Soon! I tried making a video 'that would involve less editing' and I ended up editing it way more. My goal is releasing before Sunday at least.
As someone deeply into music, 6:56 was quite painful to listen to LOL but I get what you're saying
I actually know how to read sheet music, so it was a silly mistake on my part lol.
Oh nice. Another Touhou TH-camr.
Yup. Here I am.
About the color thing, aren't Flandre and Remilia a part of that too?
Yes, you are correct! I mostly left them out because there were already like 5 examples, and I'd be pasting overtop some of them.
I've been a fan since like 9 years ago.
Yep. I didn't knew Hatate was Aya's superior. My mind was completely blown.
Cool, isn't it?
Fun fact: Reimu is preferred by mosquitoes.
True and real.
Fun fact: bugs swarm around certain people’s faces because they are attracted to the carbon dioxide you breath out. If you want to get away from them try not exhaling as you relocate.
Nice dude
Thanks bro
@@GensouChronicle thanks to you ;)
Oh.. these are obscure
touhou fanons and headcanons and some of the edgiest I've ever seen, and most of them really dont make sense to me :V
like, they pulled some of this nonsense out of their asses just for the sake of it
2:20 Was the Demon Slayer Corp system based off this? Wonder if Hatates nobility will be revealed in Cheating Detective Satori. And i replay that part of patchys song because it's the best
The Demon Slayer Ranks were likely based off the idea of a cap and rank system. The one I listed was simply the first and most famous one. There are others. This was likely based on the idea of them.
@@GensouChronicle Oh! Cool!
Interesting...
I knew all of these facts, actually.
convincing argument for why I now ship marisa/patchy, thank you
more. I crave
MORE
New script is finished. Hope you like learning linguistic theory.
@@GensouChronicle this is the stuff that I LIVE for!
6:38 nah man, it's just most people's favorite part of the song ;-;
also the morse code part might be the drumming? probably not though, it's probably just the song remix misconception
It's an interesting thought, but sadly no. Of all of these 'obscure facts' I would say that this one is one of the more commonly known ones.
a good touhou video in 2022??!! (not clickbait) (gone wrong)
8:35 omg power rangers lore
i literally know nothing about touhou except that i played it a few times, i still have it, and that it is very popular. bully me
wow
Suwowowko
what's the source of the momiji drawing at 3:49?
pixiv user: 2344745
I still have no f*ing clue what the toho lore is.
Just that it's complex as heck, bullet hell, and ya'll love armpits.
I have a video that goes over all of the canon. It's not necessarily complex, just really big.
could vs impostor main story characters SURVIVE gensokyo?
characters: red green yellow white black maroon grey/gray pink
could they survive this world?
Interesting that all these things were new to me. Probably because I'm a newish Touhou fan. Thanks for making this amazing video! :D
I didn't know the stuff about Marisa being both Eastern and Western inspired.
I tried to get things that even experts to the series might not know about, so it's understandable. Thanks for watching!
@@GensouChronicle you're welcome! Can't wait for more content! It's been well made so far!
I would like to ask for a source, for Tengu following Shotoku's ranks? since it definitely seems to me, from interactions between Aya and Hatate(though I haven't played DS) like Aya is ranked above Hatate or is same ranking(probably the latter, seeing as age doesn't same to matter but type of Tengu does...)
other then that, I have learned a little bit, cool facts
I'm not sure where you got the impression Aya is ranked higher. Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia has the discussion between Aya, Momiji, and Hatate that we get a fair bit of insight in their individual expectations within tengu society. If I may ask, what interactions did you see that definitely seemed to be the opposite?
@@GensouChronicle well, I forgot that she was featured in AFiED...
I'm pretty sure that's the source I thought about(unless I'm forgetting another of the written works), but if you've read it, I probably just misunderstood something there, or misremembered something...
also, I thought I said that I think they're equal?(after presenting the possibility of Aya being higher ranked)
I would still like a source on the Tengu following those colored ranks... unless it's a theory or something and I missed you saying that it's a theory.
@@ssjcrafter8842 Yes, you said higher or equal. I mainly wanted to know where you potentially found proof for the 'higher' portion if you had some, as I wanted to know if I had potentially missed something. I wasn't saying you specifically claimed only that. But yes, I've read AFiED a few times over the years. And that specific portion again just for this video.
As for the 'source', I presented it as a theory that has been getting considerably more and more credibility over the years as new content comes out. The evidence is large enough to be closer to a strong theory/fact rather than simple speculation. Many things in the Touhou Project are never outright confirmed by ZUN, and what many consider 'facts' are largely derived from fans picking up on things from history and mythology that are too clear to be coincidence. This is one such case. Hope that helps!
veryFors
Can you do the obscure touhou pc-98 facts
I'll write it down, but I can't promise it'll happen any time soon. I've been itching to start youtube for a while and I've ended up with like 50 videos planned in the backlog. An obscure facts pc-98 edition sounds rad though.
@@GensouChronicle
Oh ok
Conspiracy theories? Interwoven into lore? What is this? Fate?
Sort of, at least in how servants work. Legends and myths surrounding a servant = How they are when summoned. Perception in the real world = how the youkai are. Of course, there are differences and changes to them.
Thus touhoutuber was born
I planned to make videos for the past 4 or so years but life got in the way. So, better late than never.
I only know the opposite color and Patchouli Morse code since touhou fans brag about both of it a lot.
Glad to hear you potentially learned something new!
This video is too high quality for a first video, have you had other channels before?
Nope. I learned Adobe Premiere in the process of making this.
Fact no.6 : Too bad the inverted color tool doesn't completely agree or disagree with this wheel. Like with orange/yellow and blue being opposites, purple/pink and green, black and white, red and cyan. So it doesn't agree with purple and yellow.
You're probably using a different color wheel.
i don't think those are quarter notes tho
Actually... I think I blundered there big time. I called the two quarter notes at the beginning whole notes, and the rest of the sequence is allotted half the time I said it was. Thanks for pointing this out.
I know nothing of the series besides it was a bullet hell shooter.
Tell me everything.
I have a guide on the canon on my channel.
Give me the sauce for these facts man...
I am the source. I have a Ph.D in Touhou Lore-
More seriously though, I think I went over the 'source' for everything except maybe Patchouli's spell cards, which are all from Stage 4 Embodiment of Scarlet Devil. If you want me to explain one of the sources in more detail I'd be more than happy to.
Nice shitpost you got here.
lol
lmao even