Great video!! One idea that I picked up recently at a gymnastics seminar at my local Crossfit gym was the idea of using kipping (without doing a full over the bar pull-up) to open up the shoulders. When done properly, I was told one should be in the hollow rock body position but with the shoulders also back and and the traps pinched slightly. Our coach stressed the shoulders and heels should never be on the same side of the bar's vertical plane while kipping and that one should increase the magnitude of the motion over time doing sets of 20 repetitions. I've done this a few times and it really does open up my rather tight shoulders before lifting. Please keep up the great work and excellent advice.
yes, could be good. it's rare that I work with someone initially that is capable of doing kipping pull-ups, let alone a clean strict pullup. honestly, I couldn't tell you the last time I put kipping in a program, that could just be my bias however. if done well, yeah, i'm sure they're legit. I think there's probably some other methods to "open" up the shoulders if that's what is lacking.
Hey Chris, I'm pretty blessed to have an empty lake at the bottom of my house but can't go surf because of the coronavirus lockdown. I'm going to go paddle every day or second day to build my paddling fitness up again but would you suggest doing any additional exercises such as these as well? Eg working on my pull ups till I can add weight to it. I have a smoothstar too so I hope to use this time to work on my muscle memory and come back better than when I left it!
Thanks for the video. A question about breathing though - usually you're supposed to exhale when working against the weight (e.g. going up in the chinup exercise). You did the exact opposite.... Was that on purpose ? Or do you believe it's not that important ?
i didn't do the exact opposite. I inhaled at the bottom, braced, exhaled when necessary through a sticking point. exhalation can be used to further increase core "tension " / contraction. it's useful to increase force output through sticking points. inhalation / exhalation is different dependent upon exercise and the amount of resistance used.
*Surf* *Strength* *Coach* That's how I was taught to breath, many years ago, and certainly worked for me. Suck in on way down, forced breathe out on the way up but nearing the top, except start of course where you "load up" at the bottom. Whatever feels the most comfortable through the set I guess. Also added a seated Trap pull down (long bar, behind head) and a standing Lat Press, keep posture and don't lean forward on the press. Of course the good old Bench Press and Fly's. Arc up coming. Out paddled MP, tried to catch me and easily kept in front of him. Didn't say a word that night, staying over at my place during 2SM/Coke Classic and shaping for a few weeks, just sulked and listened to the stereo not saying a word for hours! Bottom line, really helps big time with surfing. Not only catch more waves but builds massive endurance. Keep up the great vids.
Great video, thanks! I'm getting some elbow strain while doing the straight arm lat pulldowns. Could that be because my arms aren't straight enough? I didn't get the impression I should be locking my elbows while doing them though.
pain is an issue for you to take up with your healthcare practitioners. conjecture via internet texting is no good. you may have some excessive tension / trigger points in the forearm flexors already and this could be exacerbating the issue. perhaps you're more forearm curling the movement, rather than lat pulling. who knows. try stretching out and treating forearm flexor tissues and see if that helps. consult your health practitioner.
Good video, I find it somewhat hard to replicate the real motion outside water. I just recently started to surf and your videos are helpful, however, having been doing pullups for years I was still worn out. Swimming for me at the least is a better workout for paddling strength, but I prefer to grab my board and head to the pool when it's empty to get some real paddling and duck diving strength training in.
+tgshark1 Tiger Shark pull-ups are only part of it. if people have the ability to do CLEAN pull-ups, there's generally the strength base there for pulling motion. then on top of that you have to build endurance. gym training needs to be a spectrum of pulling movements, various angles, various tempos, various rep ranges. pull-ups alone absolutely won't do it. swimming is absolutely great... hitting the endurance ranges for sure. there's no 1 best way to improve paddling endurance, but there are combinations of training (swimming, concept ski erg, suspension strap pulling, etc etc etc)
an exercise will cause specific adaptations to the body. what are you trying to accomplish? what are your weaknesses? will a row machine work on those weaknesses? that's for you to answer. they can be a great tool for energy system development. I use them often and with clients.
phobiamember start with 3. over time, and if you've got a solid training history you could work up to 6, but that would also depend on what the rest of your training session looked like.
I lift like nobody else and it didn’t help me today at all. Swimming emulating a long paddle out with some sprints. Then do 6 sprints to a burn. 2x a week. This is not how to get in surf shape. I also noticed my neck got tired fast. If you’re close to a lake or the ocean just go paddle
Thanks. Awesome training tips. I'll definetely be using this workout.
Great video!! One idea that I picked up recently at a gymnastics seminar at my local Crossfit gym was the idea of using kipping (without doing a full over the bar pull-up) to open up the shoulders. When done properly, I was told one should be in the hollow rock body position but with the shoulders also back and and the traps pinched slightly. Our coach stressed the shoulders and heels should never be on the same side of the bar's vertical plane while kipping and that one should increase the magnitude of the motion over time doing sets of 20 repetitions. I've done this a few times and it really does open up my rather tight shoulders before lifting. Please keep up the great work and excellent advice.
yes, could be good. it's rare that I work with someone initially that is capable of doing kipping pull-ups, let alone a clean strict pullup. honestly, I couldn't tell you the last time I put kipping in a program, that could just be my bias however. if done well, yeah, i'm sure they're legit. I think there's probably some other methods to "open" up the shoulders if that's what is lacking.
Kipping would rip my elbow tendons to shreds at my age. Maybe 10 years ago ...
This is just what I needed!
Thanks man, these are rad posts!
Lmao about the turtle dude reference😂 Always that one guy
great advice man, great pull up form
Hey Chris, I'm pretty blessed to have an empty lake at the bottom of my house but can't go surf because of the coronavirus lockdown. I'm going to go paddle every day or second day to build my paddling fitness up again but would you suggest doing any additional exercises such as these as well? Eg working on my pull ups till I can add weight to it. I have a smoothstar too so I hope to use this time to work on my muscle memory and come back better than when I left it!
Now I'm motivated to go back to gym again.. Not just because it's almost summer but to be at least good in surfing on my first try 😂
would battle ropes help
Thanks for the video.
A question about breathing though - usually you're supposed to exhale when working against the weight (e.g. going up in the chinup exercise). You did the exact opposite....
Was that on purpose ? Or do you believe it's not that important ?
You are supposed to exhale when pushing the weight away from your chest and inhale when pulling towards it ;)
i didn't do the exact opposite. I inhaled at the bottom, braced, exhaled when necessary through a sticking point. exhalation can be used to further increase core "tension " / contraction. it's useful to increase force output through sticking points. inhalation / exhalation is different dependent upon exercise and the amount of resistance used.
*Surf* *Strength* *Coach* That's how I was taught to breath, many years ago, and certainly worked for me. Suck in on way down, forced breathe out on the way up but nearing the top, except start of course where you "load up" at the bottom. Whatever feels the most comfortable through the set I guess.
Also added a seated Trap pull down (long bar, behind head) and a standing Lat Press, keep posture and don't lean forward on the press. Of course the good old Bench Press and Fly's.
Arc up coming. Out paddled MP, tried to catch me and easily kept in front of him. Didn't say a word that night, staying over at my place during 2SM/Coke Classic and shaping for a few weeks, just sulked and listened to the stereo not saying a word for hours!
Bottom line, really helps big time with surfing. Not only catch more waves but builds massive endurance.
Keep up the great vids.
Great video, thanks! I'm getting some elbow strain while doing the straight arm lat pulldowns. Could that be because my arms aren't straight enough? I didn't get the impression I should be locking my elbows while doing them though.
pain is an issue for you to take up with your healthcare practitioners. conjecture via internet texting is no good. you may have some excessive tension / trigger points in the forearm flexors already and this could be exacerbating the issue. perhaps you're more forearm curling the movement, rather than lat pulling. who knows. try stretching out and treating forearm flexor tissues and see if that helps. consult your health practitioner.
Good video, I find it somewhat hard to replicate the real motion outside water. I just recently started to surf and your videos are helpful, however, having been doing pullups for years I was still worn out. Swimming for me at the least is a better workout for paddling strength, but I prefer to grab my board and head to the pool when it's empty to get some real paddling and duck diving strength training in.
+tgshark1 Tiger Shark pull-ups are only part of it. if people have the ability to do CLEAN pull-ups, there's generally the strength base there for pulling motion. then on top of that you have to build endurance. gym training needs to be a spectrum of pulling movements, various angles, various tempos, various rep ranges. pull-ups alone absolutely won't do it. swimming is absolutely great... hitting the endurance ranges for sure. there's no 1 best way to improve paddling endurance, but there are combinations of training (swimming, concept ski erg, suspension strap pulling, etc etc etc)
just keep surfing man! it will come
What do you think of using a rowing machine as an exercise for surfing? Will it be of any use? Thanks!
an exercise will cause specific adaptations to the body. what are you trying to accomplish? what are your weaknesses? will a row machine work on those weaknesses? that's for you to answer. they can be a great tool for energy system development. I use them often and with clients.
great stuff
how many of these circles would you recommend doing? In a single gym session or as a part of a larger routine?
Surf Strength Coach
phobiamember start with 3. over time, and if you've got a solid training history you could work up to 6, but that would also depend on what the rest of your training session looked like.
Great video thanks, i really struggle with my paddle, got caught in a rip today and burned my shoulder out trying to paddle in to the shore.
+steven cocks rips will do that..... build up some work capacity
I lift like nobody else and it didn’t help me today at all. Swimming emulating a long paddle out with some sprints. Then do 6 sprints to a burn. 2x a week. This is not how to get in surf shape. I also noticed my neck got tired fast. If you’re close to a lake or the ocean just go paddle
So if I was training, I could get another two in there... ;)