The reason I love Deadpool is that for all his jokes and vulgarity and violence, he still has morals. He's not going out somewhere to hurt innocent people, he keeps his chaos targeted towards criminals.
He talks a lot about not being a hero, but he does a lot of good. He's a classic antihero -- not because he doesn't do heroic things, but because he actively rejects all the classic markers that are supposed to signal heroism.
I think a good example of this is honestly in the comics. One of the issues from around the time of the movie had him discover a woman trying to jump off the roof of his building, and while he did do what you expect, like making jokes, taking her on a mission and randomly holding two people hostage for Hamilton tickets because if this was the last day of a person's life they were gonna have fun, but it ends with him taking her to a hospital, as during the show he had been texting contacts at The Avengers so they could set her up with care in the psychiatric unit, saying he isn't a hero and doesn't have all the answers, but they do. And that really stuck with me. He pushes off being a hero, yet he's saved lives in his own way.
Deadpool is a symbolic representation of "Masking your traumas". Underneath the mask of humor, there is nothing but a living corpse that was once a man. People overlook this character when there is so much more that we could learn about him.
Exactly. That's something I really like about Deadpool and that is by all his silliness and humor (which I also really like, don't get me wrong), there is also a whole lot of tragedy in this character. And I am really happy that the movies also take this side of him into account and make it a central part of the story. Even more they get another point right and that is Deadpool's humor and way of taking nothing serious is his way to coup with his own tragedy and pain.
Ryan really gets the character because he can’t shut up, is always cracking jokes but theirs always brief moments where you can tell he’s actually bothered by things happening but can’t bring himself to openly acknowledge it. In the comics he often helps by being an obstacle either for the people he’s helping or fighting. Deadpool and Wolverine are two immortals that are always the supporting cast. Deadpool’s stories never have him driving the story, he’s always at someone else’s side or in opposition. Similarly for Wolverine he’s lived a long life but history often forgets he was even there and his most defining role is a member of the X-Men, a group he’s not even the Leader of. Deadpool wants that spotlight that he can’t have because his nature wouldn’t allow him to have it. My favorite comic moment from him was him helping the X-Men win over the public eye, X-Men didn’t want him anywhere near the situation and they were right to do so because Deadpool thought it’d be great to assassinate Norman Osborn who was leading the Anti-Mutant Rally. The X-Men knew this would only make things worse so they end up fighting him on live TV saving Norman and in the process people cheer on the Mutants who saved Norman. This was Deadpool’s plan the whole time. He’s a true Anti-Hero because being a man who does the right thing the right way isn’t him, he’s the guy everyone beats up to look better.
13:25 - "Not everyone's the world-saving type. I'm not, and I'm happy." - Happy Hogan This line flies past so fast, I don't think it gets enough apppreciation.
"that kid was abused, you could tell, you could always tell" This hits hard and makes me really agree with him. Sometimes peoples behavior is excused, whether because people want to sympathize with parents or just don't care to do anything. The people who have the ability to do something about it and don't aren't bad but they are still the opposite of heroes, cowards..?
Not to mention, he himself was abused. I mean, he repeatedly uses the Scout Master Kevin line as a joke, but it’s possible that it is indeed a true trauma of his. And to be frank, I think he’s probably been abused more than just by that guy.
@@IcarusTheEagle In the first movie he has a trauma dick measuring contest with Vanessa and he mentions a lot of really alarming stuff about what his dad and uncles did to him, I would wager that a lot of the stuff he mentions is at least mostly true and not just for a joke. Him being a survivor of childhood domestic abuse would explain why he cares so deeply about Russell's situation, when he finds out that Russell is being abused he doesn't joke or anything to him he straight up asked him "did these men hurt you? Which ones?" It's one of the few times throughout all the movies where you can see him being softer and genuinely concerned.
I think one of the things about anti-heroes, like Deadpool, that we like so much is that they're willing to do what traditional heroes aren't. Colossus would never shoot a pedophile child-abuser in the face, but let's be real... how many of us would judge him for it? Deadpool sees an abused kid and sees exactly what he needs to do to ensure the abuser never touches him again. It's not morally right (though morality is subjective, we all kind of agree in general terms what is or isn't moral when it comes to killing), it's definitely not legally acceptable, but one bullet meant one less abuser in the world hurting kids for his own sick enjoyment. I like that Deadpool's thing is that he doesn't save the whole world (generally), but he can save *someone* if he can. He's not out to be a hero, but he doesn't stand by when he's really needed and he's pretty heroic to the people he's helping.
This makes a lotta sense, like when he punches the ceiling of the van, he's not just doing it to punctuate the "God's best joke" line, he's punching at God for both of them
The rant in the car is award worthy. Seriously, it's one of the most incredible pieces of dramatic acting I've seen in years and it's in a Marvel film. And a Deadpool one at that.
My favorite detail in Logan's monologue is when he punches the roof of the Odyssey, on the punctuation of "God" in "But its one of God's best jokes that you cant die". Its such a small thing, but it conveys so much weight to his rage that hes actually throwing hands upwards to the heavens. Its so quick, so hard, and its like the only thing he does besides just talking to Wade's face that it makes it stand out
In the comics, Deadpool was originally supposed to be a villain. But he ended up having a lot of heroic traits that were not ethical - an Anti-Hero. Majority of villains do bad things thinking on a massive level that what they do is for the better of people, even if it means suffering and death. Deadpool is that, but is more singular ( for the most part ) in his targets and they have to be actual bad people. All that said, which is extremely condensed, Wade is also the kindest person you could meet. I think my favorite scene in one of the comics I've read is when he's on a night patrol and he sees a teenager standing at the top of a building contemplating jumping. He's able to talk to her, talk to her enough to convince her to come down and takes her to a hospital to get her check up. Deadpool isn't a bad person, but he's not a good person: he's kinda and a kinder person than he gives himself credit for. Because anyone can be bad, anyone can be good, but not everyone can be kind.
He's also extremely considerate in his kindness. There was a story where he was working with Hawkeye after he lost his hearing and he made sure the bottom of his mask was up and he was always facing Clint so Clint could lip read him. It was a very sweet, but simple gesture that meant a Lot to Clint in that time.
And to add to what you said, not only does he take her to the hospital, he gives her a night out on the town after making a joke that if she's gonna jump, to do it off of Parker Industries (Peter has his own tech company in that universe) at least. She asks him "What is wrong with you?" and he goes "Look I know I can't stop you, so at least let me show you a good time first. He lied to her to save her and when he drops her off, she's pissed at him and goes "This isn't what I wanted!" and he replies along the lines of "Yeah but it's what you need." before taking off to reflect about he wishes he could do that for himself. Wade has always been this miserable, broken person and granted he will make SEVERAL mistakes or poor lapses in judgement, he does so with the best intentions like a golden retriever with leprosy.
The great thing about the writing when Logan is going off on Deadpool in the car is that he's also talking about himself. Wolverine is just as much of an anti-hero, and he's having the same struggle about feeling like he's failed to be the hero his loved ones wanted him to be. Teaming these two up to be each other's foil was a genius script move. The Oscars always snub superhero movies, but damn this script deserves a nomination at least. It's a fucking masterpiece.
"No wonder the [X-men] didn't take you, and they'll take fucking *anyone*." That right there. Someone pointed this line out in a Tumblr post and every time I come back to it I'm in pain.
@@MsBigactWith all due respect, have you ever seen a good film in your life? I'm a goddamn writer and I was crying at the end. Yes, the pacing is off in pretty much all three of them but I don't even really care, the dialogues are perfect. If you don't like the humor, that's not on them, just don't watch it.
@trebaneconapise7793 haha dang I wasn't coming at you personally, my dude. The first one was decent. And yeah, the humor isn't my thing because it's overdone by the third movie, and they rely on it rather than good writing. We don't all have to like the same stuff.
Sometimes you read a casting decision and go “okay, I guess it could work.” Sometimes you go “Yeah that’s a good choice”. And sometimes you question how it could have been anyone else. Reynolds as Deadpool was the last one.
i absolutely love how this channel sees so much more in these characters than the average viewer would and really analyzes them in a positive and intersting manner. we need more content like this than angry video essays from armchair experts who completely miss the point.
Wade's inner monologue is his own worst enemy, and his greatest strength. Anyone who has EVER struggled with insecurity and feeling like you'll never measure up can 1000% relate to that.
The thing I love about Wade is because of all the gratuitous violence and gore, his incredible moments of gentleness and tenderness stand out all the more.
Deadpool has been one of my main comfort characters since the early 2000s when i began reading his comics. he is the epitome of tragedy and comedy all in one.... in the comics he has lost it all multiple times, he has been abused, tortured, and literally torn apart. his brain rebuilds itself different every time, resulting in multiple different psychotic episodes. and yet he still strives to do the right thing, even if he does it in a way that is "not heroic". he has been shoved aside by most hero groups, even in his darkest times. and he still gets up and keeps going and does it with a laugh and a smile and a joke. ryan!pool is amazing and the movies have brought him to life in a wonderful and different way and i love them so much. i saw DPnW 10 times in theater, and countless times since, and it has made me cry every time. when he said "i want to matter" that hit me hard. the fact that he is *finally* being given the credit that he is due as an anti-hero just makes me so happy. i havent even watched the video yet and i know i'm going to cry. to me, he symbolizes working past your trauma (ok only in the movies really) and realizing that you can love and be loved in spite of it. i could write a 10 page essay on why i love and identify with deadpool honestly. i cannot wait to watch this. (after my doctors appt, this will be a nice treat)
Deadpool, as a Marvel Character, is incredible important to me and I'm eternally thankful for Ryan capturing him so well. Facing his (in the comics) downright SEVERE depression is a key theme and none of the usual coping mechanism works because of his healing factor. He HAS to get up and do it the hard way - and that's what makes him so incredible important.
The first movie date with my wife was Deadpool... I was pretty hyped for the movie, but I think she was more excited than me... knew she was a keeper from then on.
Logan's monolog hit close to home. I think a lot of people have had someone they care about, or look up to, throw their insecurities in their face during an argument. The defeat, or even confirmation, on Wade's "face" said everything.
Right after Wolverine finishes telling off Deadpool before he says “I’m going to fight you”, Wolverine looks down and his face drops for a half second . You can tell he feels a little guilty about telling him off. Just a moment of guilt all with his face
OMG LOL I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING WHEN THEY WERE TALKING A BIT ABOUT LOGAN I WAS LIKE: WELL NOW I WANT TO KINDA HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN ABOUT WOLVERINE TOO!
Oh my god I was just thinking thirty minutes ago how much you guys needed to do an episode on DP. (While rewatching your Iroh, Anakin, and Snape videos of course)
Every time I see Hugh Jackman’s monologue in this film, it makes me think that this may have been one of his best outings as Wolverine. You guys should definitely do an episode on his Wolverine. I know there’s a lot of material to sort through but between his anger issues, identity issues, and attachment issues, this character has a lot of important things to teach us. Anyway, great episode I never saw coming. I love all that you guys do, so thank you.
I haven't seen this video yet and I'm just commenting so idk if my points get brought up, but I saw a guy do a video about him and I want to highlight his point. The reason why Wade doesn't "fit in" with Xavier's school for the gifted is because he wasn't born a mutant. X men were mostly people who were born the way that they were, while Wade acquired his powers through trauma Metaphorically, x men were born disabled while Wade became disabled due to an accident. I just love deadpool so much he's such an interesting character
My take on Deadpool & Wolverine about DP that I frequently see in myself: a bit of imposter syndrome. He thinks he’s not good enough so ends up in a rut that takes something bigger than himself to overcome. It’s not an overnight, but making something happen is up to you…. Moving forward requires you to make the first step.
This... THIS is the relationship people should be aspiring to!! Wade and Vanessa over freaking Joker and Harley a thousand times over!!! The thing also about Logan's speech is that was how he viewed himself at one point too. He was critiquing himself just as much as Wade in that moment.
He is, and you can even see the moment he realizes that he's also talking about himself, and that maybe he went a little too far and below the belt. Right before Deadpool says he's gonna fight him. Both of these guys put in epic performances there.
I mean... Which part of the movie, right? ;) Probably not the almost suicidal, nor the "I need to do it because of (X person)"... But there is plenty of good to take from it.
I love you guys. Deadpool is the most important Marvel hero to me, without getting into some rather wordy specifics. I’ve always known there was real beauty beneath Wade’s eternal-burn-victim skin, and I thank you two for showing me what that beauty is.
I was too young to watch Deadpool when it came out and ever since then, I never bothered to think muc about Deadpool movies at all. But now that I have grown up and have been enlightened by Cinema Therapy, I feel like I really wanted to watch movies about Deadpool now. So thank you again, Cinema Therapy!
i literally can't wait until my kids are old enough to watch deadpool because i know they will love it just as much as i do and the lessons are truly eternal.
I've never been so STOKED for one of your videos 😂 I LOVE Deadpool. Having a "hero" who goes through his hero journey not from being the bad guy turned good, but someone who utterly loathes himself to learn to love himself is just perfection.
I keep thinking a lot of characters act pompous and vulgar because they have so much love to give but they’re afraid to lose it; so as much as Deadpool acts over the top I always know there’s gonna be BIG depth as well.
I am really glad that this wasn't just about Deadpool to matter but giving importance to others of Wesley Snipes, Channing Tatum, Dafne Keen, and Jennifer Garner for their roles to shine in this film.
I think it's a really interesting shift to see Deadpool in the first movie being inspired to be 'heroic' by others, then figuring out what being a hero actually means to him in the second film, resulting in the third film, where he is one of the ones to try to inspire Wolverine to be a hero once more. It's possible to be a positive influence and a force of good in the world without being a 'Big H' Hero - or maybe thats what being a hero is all about in the first place anyways.
13:17 - I personally believe in aiming as high as you can, so that even when you fall short you know you made it as absolutely high as you could, but you can't beat yourself up over not always making it exactly as high as you aimed....be happy that you just even _tried_ - like running a race and being okay with it even if you didn't win, but not because you didn't even sincerely try to win, even if you are also sometimes a little bummed about it or wished you could have actually won for a little while too(just accepting that not winning everything all the time doesn't actually make you lesser than someone who wins, it's just that different people are different, and it's not always necessarily a matter of better or worse..and even if some people are better or worse than others at some things, everybody has different things they are better or worse at than others and again that alone doesn't make people greater or lesser value than each other as actual persons).
19:08 The best part of this scene is that in the script it says something like “a glimmer of deep regret shows in his eyes but is quickly extinguished,” and Hugh Jackman plays that so incredibly well. What a legendary actor👏👏👏
The most under-appreciated part of these videos is the opening minute. Credit to David Sant for that banger every time! Love the psychology of BLANK series btw.
I've loved all if the Deadpool movies, and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is totally irreplaceable, but this is by far my favorite movie in the DP franchise, and really up there for Wolverine (sorry, but there is no beating Logan).
I would rather break the law to save an abused child than obey the law and protect the abusers. Because I was abused and the law didn't protect me, and I didn't know if it even could, because the abuse was hidden; it nearly always is. So if Deadpool's way is the only way, then he's the hero we need.
Well done Ryan for not giving up on this character and bringing him back for his own movies. I’m a big Deadpool comic fan and when I saw him in Wolverine Origins I knew Ryan was perfect for Wade (despite all the other issues with the film). He really gets the character ❤
One quote that I learned from a video game movie was "You don't have to do big things to be a hero, just the right ones." I think this sums up Deadpool for the most part. In the third movie he wants to do big things in order to make himself worthy of being a hero. But what he finds out later is that you don't have to be part of something big to be a hero. You just have to do the right things, for the right reasons.
Deadpool honestly reminds me of one of my favorite shows, Penn & Teller Bullshit. Both have massive profanity, adult themes, crude jokes, and tackle subjects most of us don’t want to… but deep down both are almost cloyingly positive and tender and sweet. For all the blood, gore, f words, drug references, sexualization, the Deadpool movies ultimately end with “be a good person and do right by your friends and family.” It’s really touching and, I believe, the reason they remain successful. That, and they’re damned funny and chock full of fan service and references, but the beating heart is important too.
When I saw the movie and got to Wolverine's monoligue to Deadpool, I wondered what would happen after that gut punch. I figured that either all the seriousness would be broken apart by a joke, or the movie would experience a tonal shift that makes it uncomfortably un-Deadpool. I'm so glad they managed to find a middle ground by giving us the Honda Odyssey fight. It keeps the character tension by having the characters rightfully furious with each other while also giving us the fun of a freaking SUV being used as a battleground and arsenal.
9:45 I don’t know why but I find something really serene about nde’s and how they are portrayed in movies/media. Maybe it’s the feeling of the ultimate closeness to God. I wrote one in the fictional book I’m writing, and I took inspiration from how it’s done in Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children. I like the idea that God or others, much like in this scene, are just so carefree about life, knowing that it’s not the end for us, but just another beginning
I know only Part 1 is out right now but PLEASE do psychology of a hero/villain for Galinda and Elphaba from Wicked!! Their characters are extremely complex and heavily plays on niceness vs kindness.
I love that Deadpool's whole arc throughout the whole trilogy is a deconstruction of his mythology. In the comics, Deadpool has absolutely 0% sentimentality and nihilistic because he's aware that he's a comic character so he becomes an anarchist, I mean, he literally dared Death. However, in the films, his arc about becoming a true hero because he has people to care about and they care about him too, it's beautiful. He becomes a Hero, in his own way.
I’ve heard ppl w/ BPD say they empathize most with Deadpool. I tend to agree. Everybody needs a hero to identify with even cluster Bs and especially pwBPD who go through a lot.
That wolverine monologue will forever live in my head rent free. Out of all the epic action and comedy, that speech just hits so hard. Wolverine is a character whose rage is often loud and on display as violence. So to see it contained directed verbally is haunting. It's like when your do something bad and your dad doesn't yell at you he just calmly scolds you. You know you really fucked up because he is so angry with you that he's just gone fully numb. That is where wolverine is at for the first time in his life. Quiet rage. Seething white hot anger.
I would love it if you guys did an episode on Logan. I'm going through pretty tough things I won't spill my guts about now, but watching Logan trying his hardest and still getting absolutely thrashed in the movie felt pretty relatable, so I'd love to hear a therapist and filmmaker's take on that
19:05 best part about this scene is that the last bit is also wolverine also putting out the same hatred he has for himself It applies to they both see themselves
1:12 "And we're gonna be looking at rising to a better version of yourself when you don't believe there is one" And this has no applicability to Jinx Arcane s2 either so pls cover that too
I clicked on this almost as quickly as I clicked on the "vs Uncle Iroh" video (still my favourite of all the CT videos I've seen). Deadpool is quite a fascinating character.
The end of deadpool 3 made me cry, just a few tears but the music and build up just got me right in the feels... felt weird being the only one tearing up in the theater after Logans shirt ripps
Whoa, been waiting for this one for so long! Wolverine's rant in the car is something I was on the receiving end of, almost ipsis literis. Jono's closing thoughts on Godzilla -1.0 was something that greatly helped me get by, and I feel like it resonates a lot with Wade in this one. LFG!!!
Thank you for this video in particular, The first time I saw the scene with Cassandra in his brain I didn't think of it that much and didn't have an emotional reaction really, watching this video put it in Perspective I started crying and didn't stop till at least 20 minutes after it ended. The Catharsis is very appreciated
That car scene was such a great homage to Planes, Trains and Automobiles. If you look closely at Hugh Jackman at the end of his rant, you can see just a flicker of regret cross his mind. Very reminiscent of Steve Martin after tearing a strip off of John Candy. Brilliant.
You should have been in my loud-ass cinema for Wolverines' speech about Wade. The few awkward laughs at the beginning, then just DEAD silence by the end in shock. It was SO well acted.
The best part of Deadpool, in my honest opinion, is that while he's somewhat of a Hero, he's also an unapologetic ass. He swears, he shoots and ends people, he's vulgar and rude, he jokes about everything even if it's somewhat sensitive but he'll be there for those who need it and he'll do his damn best to help them if he can. He's my favorite example of an anti-hero; he's heroic in all the ways that are necessary but also not heroic in all the ways that aren't entirely necessary.
I did not grow up watching the X-Men or any solo Wolverine movies (I didn't really get into superhero movies until Far From Home). So this movie was my first real experience with Wolverine and Huge Jackmen did such a fantastic job that I'm now convinced to go watch all the those movies.
That scene with Wolverine is also brilliant and heartbreaking because he talks about how dumb Wade acts but he doesn’t know that Wade uses his humor to cope with his trauma and insecurities
Yes, you're covering Deadpool! I wasn't sure if you could. Deadpool wants what we all want is to matter to someone, but doesn't realize how much he matters to those who love him.
Me and my dude LOVE these movies! The fact that my name is Vanessa and his initials are MM which is an inverted WW, and that we had to wait for "the time for Us," and I want to go through every struggle along side him is irrelevant 😊
One of my favorite things about Deadpool comes from comparing him to line from the first Avengers movie. Cap is calling Tony out about not being the guy to take a knee or jump on a grenade which of course forshadows the ending of the movie, but Deadpool is exactly that guy. Not just because he's nigh immortal, but he is completely the guy that in the end will sacrifice himself for the betterment of others.
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@@CinemaTherapyShow can you please do the movie Anora next
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The reason I love Deadpool is that for all his jokes and vulgarity and violence, he still has morals. He's not going out somewhere to hurt innocent people, he keeps his chaos targeted towards criminals.
CHAOS BEAM!!
He talks a lot about not being a hero, but he does a lot of good. He's a classic antihero -- not because he doesn't do heroic things, but because he actively rejects all the classic markers that are supposed to signal heroism.
I think a good example of this is honestly in the comics. One of the issues from around the time of the movie had him discover a woman trying to jump off the roof of his building, and while he did do what you expect, like making jokes, taking her on a mission and randomly holding two people hostage for Hamilton tickets because if this was the last day of a person's life they were gonna have fun, but it ends with him taking her to a hospital, as during the show he had been texting contacts at The Avengers so they could set her up with care in the psychiatric unit, saying he isn't a hero and doesn't have all the answers, but they do. And that really stuck with me. He pushes off being a hero, yet he's saved lives in his own way.
he killed the only deadpool who couldn't heal himself just to get his dog and desert eagles,brother...
@@nalurodriigues to be fair, he didn't know he couldn't heal.
Deadpool is a symbolic representation of "Masking your traumas". Underneath the mask of humor, there is nothing but a living corpse that was once a man. People overlook this character when there is so much more that we could learn about him.
Exactly. That's something I really like about Deadpool and that is by all his silliness and humor (which I also really like, don't get me wrong), there is also a whole lot of tragedy in this character.
And I am really happy that the movies also take this side of him into account and make it a central part of the story. Even more they get another point right and that is Deadpool's humor and way of taking nothing serious is his way to coup with his own tragedy and pain.
Ryan really gets the character because he can’t shut up, is always cracking jokes but theirs always brief moments where you can tell he’s actually bothered by things happening but can’t bring himself to openly acknowledge it. In the comics he often helps by being an obstacle either for the people he’s helping or fighting. Deadpool and Wolverine are two immortals that are always the supporting cast. Deadpool’s stories never have him driving the story, he’s always at someone else’s side or in opposition. Similarly for Wolverine he’s lived a long life but history often forgets he was even there and his most defining role is a member of the X-Men, a group he’s not even the Leader of. Deadpool wants that spotlight that he can’t have because his nature wouldn’t allow him to have it. My favorite comic moment from him was him helping the X-Men win over the public eye, X-Men didn’t want him anywhere near the situation and they were right to do so because Deadpool thought it’d be great to assassinate Norman Osborn who was leading the Anti-Mutant Rally. The X-Men knew this would only make things worse so they end up fighting him on live TV saving Norman and in the process people cheer on the Mutants who saved Norman. This was Deadpool’s plan the whole time. He’s a true Anti-Hero because being a man who does the right thing the right way isn’t him, he’s the guy everyone beats up to look better.
Coming back to that line in the first movie: "Hah! Fake laugh, hiding real pain."
13:25 - "Not everyone's the world-saving type. I'm not, and I'm happy." - Happy Hogan
This line flies past so fast, I don't think it gets enough apppreciation.
Alternatively, he’s saying it as: “… and I’m Happy,” which emphasizes his credibility.
It didn’t go unnoticed.
"that kid was abused, you could tell, you could always tell" This hits hard and makes me really agree with him. Sometimes peoples behavior is excused, whether because people want to sympathize with parents or just don't care to do anything. The people who have the ability to do something about it and don't aren't bad but they are still the opposite of heroes, cowards..?
Not to mention, he himself was abused. I mean, he repeatedly uses the Scout Master Kevin line as a joke, but it’s possible that it is indeed a true trauma of his. And to be frank, I think he’s probably been abused more than just by that guy.
And the fact that he doesn’t question. He just knows and believes. ❤❤
@@IcarusTheEagle In the first movie he has a trauma dick measuring contest with Vanessa and he mentions a lot of really alarming stuff about what his dad and uncles did to him, I would wager that a lot of the stuff he mentions is at least mostly true and not just for a joke.
Him being a survivor of childhood domestic abuse would explain why he cares so deeply about Russell's situation, when he finds out that Russell is being abused he doesn't joke or anything to him he straight up asked him "did these men hurt you? Which ones?" It's one of the few times throughout all the movies where you can see him being softer and genuinely concerned.
I think one of the things about anti-heroes, like Deadpool, that we like so much is that they're willing to do what traditional heroes aren't.
Colossus would never shoot a pedophile child-abuser in the face, but let's be real... how many of us would judge him for it?
Deadpool sees an abused kid and sees exactly what he needs to do to ensure the abuser never touches him again. It's not morally right (though morality is subjective, we all kind of agree in general terms what is or isn't moral when it comes to killing), it's definitely not legally acceptable, but one bullet meant one less abuser in the world hurting kids for his own sick enjoyment.
I like that Deadpool's thing is that he doesn't save the whole world (generally), but he can save *someone* if he can. He's not out to be a hero, but he doesn't stand by when he's really needed and he's pretty heroic to the people he's helping.
Man, that line hits hard, because it is true.
One of us dying? Sure... The two of us, holding hands while listening to Madonna... FUCKING INVINCIBLE!!!
Deadpool speaking to all of Hollywood on their "k*ll your gays" trope: "You have no power here~"
*Sundowner:* "I'M FUCKIN' INVINCIBLE!!!"
@azazeltheundyingdamienkali5700 (Insert Red Sun/Like a prayer remix)
Wolverine's Monologue, I somewhat feel that the end of it was Wolverine talking about himself too. He's not just angry at Wade, he's angry at himself.
This makes a lotta sense, like when he punches the ceiling of the van, he's not just doing it to punctuate the "God's best joke" line, he's punching at God for both of them
Deadpool is the personification of "You gotta laugh or else you'll cry".
The rant in the car is award worthy. Seriously, it's one of the most incredible pieces of dramatic acting I've seen in years and it's in a Marvel film. And a Deadpool one at that.
Hugh Jackman is a talented actor
It was nice to see some emotional depth in a Marvel film again.
My favorite detail in Logan's monologue is when he punches the roof of the Odyssey, on the punctuation of "God" in "But its one of God's best jokes that you cant die". Its such a small thing, but it conveys so much weight to his rage that hes actually throwing hands upwards to the heavens. Its so quick, so hard, and its like the only thing he does besides just talking to Wade's face that it makes it stand out
In the comics, Deadpool was originally supposed to be a villain. But he ended up having a lot of heroic traits that were not ethical - an Anti-Hero. Majority of villains do bad things thinking on a massive level that what they do is for the better of people, even if it means suffering and death. Deadpool is that, but is more singular ( for the most part ) in his targets and they have to be actual bad people. All that said, which is extremely condensed, Wade is also the kindest person you could meet. I think my favorite scene in one of the comics I've read is when he's on a night patrol and he sees a teenager standing at the top of a building contemplating jumping. He's able to talk to her, talk to her enough to convince her to come down and takes her to a hospital to get her check up.
Deadpool isn't a bad person, but he's not a good person: he's kinda and a kinder person than he gives himself credit for. Because anyone can be bad, anyone can be good, but not everyone can be kind.
He's also extremely considerate in his kindness. There was a story where he was working with Hawkeye after he lost his hearing and he made sure the bottom of his mask was up and he was always facing Clint so Clint could lip read him. It was a very sweet, but simple gesture that meant a Lot to Clint in that time.
The talking down the teenager is a parody of a Superman comic where he also stops someone jumping from a building, but in a traditional heroic way
And to add to what you said, not only does he take her to the hospital, he gives her a night out on the town after making a joke that if she's gonna jump, to do it off of Parker Industries (Peter has his own tech company in that universe) at least. She asks him "What is wrong with you?" and he goes "Look I know I can't stop you, so at least let me show you a good time first. He lied to her to save her and when he drops her off, she's pissed at him and goes "This isn't what I wanted!" and he replies along the lines of "Yeah but it's what you need." before taking off to reflect about he wishes he could do that for himself.
Wade has always been this miserable, broken person and granted he will make SEVERAL mistakes or poor lapses in judgement, he does so with the best intentions like a golden retriever with leprosy.
Our Internet Dads are gonna do this till they're 90!!
They'd better!
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“Till you’re 90!” 🤣🤣🤣
Let's hope so!
The great thing about the writing when Logan is going off on Deadpool in the car is that he's also talking about himself. Wolverine is just as much of an anti-hero, and he's having the same struggle about feeling like he's failed to be the hero his loved ones wanted him to be. Teaming these two up to be each other's foil was a genius script move. The Oscars always snub superhero movies, but damn this script deserves a nomination at least. It's a fucking masterpiece.
That was the only scene with actual good writing in the movie. And was made that good, in large part, due to Hugh Jackman's performance.
"No wonder the [X-men] didn't take you, and they'll take fucking *anyone*."
That right there. Someone pointed this line out in a Tumblr post and every time I come back to it I'm in pain.
@@MsBigactWith all due respect, have you ever seen a good film in your life? I'm a goddamn writer and I was crying at the end. Yes, the pacing is off in pretty much all three of them but I don't even really care, the dialogues are perfect. If you don't like the humor, that's not on them, just don't watch it.
@trebaneconapise7793 haha dang I wasn't coming at you personally, my dude. The first one was decent. And yeah, the humor isn't my thing because it's overdone by the third movie, and they rely on it rather than good writing. We don't all have to like the same stuff.
@@MsBigact oh please, the whole trilogy was chock full of masterful writing. just because there's a lot of fuckwords doesn't mean it's not good.
Anytime I read a Deadpool comic, I always imagine Ryan Reynold’s voice speaking as Deadpool; I can never see anyone else playing him
Nolan North is also an incredible (and original) voice for him
I honestly love the Marvel Ultimate Alliance version myself.
Sometimes you read a casting decision and go “okay, I guess it could work.” Sometimes you go “Yeah that’s a good choice”. And sometimes you question how it could have been anyone else. Reynolds as Deadpool was the last one.
I can say for sure, Ryan Reynolds’s is the film deadpool and I can’t imagine anyone else in the movies but RR
@@roguetheotterRyan loves Nolan's work as Deadpool
i absolutely love how this channel sees so much more in these characters than the average viewer would and really analyzes them in a positive and intersting manner. we need more content like this than angry video essays from armchair experts who completely miss the point.
That's pretty much the point of our channel. Thanks for watching! 😊
Wade's inner monologue is his own worst enemy, and his greatest strength.
Anyone who has EVER struggled with insecurity and feeling like you'll never measure up can 1000% relate to that.
I'm amazed that you managed to get 25 minutes of content out of these three movies that wouldn't get you instantly demonetized. Well done guys! :D
The thing I love about Wade is because of all the gratuitous violence and gore, his incredible moments of gentleness and tenderness stand out all the more.
True
Deadpool has been one of my main comfort characters since the early 2000s when i began reading his comics.
he is the epitome of tragedy and comedy all in one.... in the comics he has lost it all multiple times, he has been abused, tortured, and literally torn apart. his brain rebuilds itself different every time, resulting in multiple different psychotic episodes. and yet he still strives to do the right thing, even if he does it in a way that is "not heroic". he has been shoved aside by most hero groups, even in his darkest times. and he still gets up and keeps going and does it with a laugh and a smile and a joke.
ryan!pool is amazing and the movies have brought him to life in a wonderful and different way and i love them so much. i saw DPnW 10 times in theater, and countless times since, and it has made me cry every time. when he said "i want to matter" that hit me hard. the fact that he is *finally* being given the credit that he is due as an anti-hero just makes me so happy.
i havent even watched the video yet and i know i'm going to cry. to me, he symbolizes working past your trauma (ok only in the movies really) and realizing that you can love and be loved in spite of it.
i could write a 10 page essay on why i love and identify with deadpool honestly. i cannot wait to watch this. (after my doctors appt, this will be a nice treat)
Its alwats a good day when a new cinema therapy comes out
I have never clicked on a TH-cam video faster.
Same
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Literally the instant I saw this was uploaded!
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Same, but you commented the minute this was uploaded haha
Deadpool, as a Marvel Character, is incredible important to me and I'm eternally thankful for Ryan capturing him so well. Facing his (in the comics) downright SEVERE depression is a key theme and none of the usual coping mechanism works because of his healing factor. He HAS to get up and do it the hard way - and that's what makes him so incredible important.
The first movie date with my wife was Deadpool... I was pretty hyped for the movie, but I think she was more excited than me... knew she was a keeper from then on.
Oh, the curse bleeper's working overtime on this one.
Logan's monolog hit close to home. I think a lot of people have had someone they care about, or look up to, throw their insecurities in their face during an argument. The defeat, or even confirmation, on Wade's "face" said everything.
Right after Wolverine finishes telling off Deadpool before he says “I’m going to fight you”, Wolverine looks down and his face drops for a half second . You can tell he feels a little guilty about telling him off. Just a moment of guilt all with his face
PLEEEEEASE do Wolverine next!!!
Keep an eye on the channel later this week! 👀
@@CinemaTherapyShowWOOOOOOO!!!
OMG LOL I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING WHEN THEY WERE TALKING A BIT ABOUT LOGAN I WAS LIKE: WELL NOW I WANT TO KINDA HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN ABOUT WOLVERINE TOO!
@@CinemaTherapyShow...my Christmas wish came true!!!!
Oh my god I was just thinking thirty minutes ago how much you guys needed to do an episode on DP. (While rewatching your Iroh, Anakin, and Snape videos of course)
Every time I see Hugh Jackman’s monologue in this film, it makes me think that this may have been one of his best outings as Wolverine. You guys should definitely do an episode on his Wolverine. I know there’s a lot of material to sort through but between his anger issues, identity issues, and attachment issues, this character has a lot of important things to teach us. Anyway, great episode I never saw coming. I love all that you guys do, so thank you.
I haven't seen this video yet and I'm just commenting so idk if my points get brought up, but I saw a guy do a video about him and I want to highlight his point.
The reason why Wade doesn't "fit in" with Xavier's school for the gifted is because he wasn't born a mutant. X men were mostly people who were born the way that they were, while Wade acquired his powers through trauma
Metaphorically, x men were born disabled while Wade became disabled due to an accident.
I just love deadpool so much he's such an interesting character
The CTU: Provo insert. Absolutely loved that 😂. You guys always have such wonderful sponsor ads!
My take on Deadpool & Wolverine about DP that I frequently see in myself: a bit of imposter syndrome. He thinks he’s not good enough so ends up in a rut that takes something bigger than himself to overcome. It’s not an overnight, but making something happen is up to you…. Moving forward requires you to make the first step.
This... THIS is the relationship people should be aspiring to!! Wade and Vanessa over freaking Joker and Harley a thousand times over!!! The thing also about Logan's speech is that was how he viewed himself at one point too. He was critiquing himself just as much as Wade in that moment.
He is, and you can even see the moment he realizes that he's also talking about himself, and that maybe he went a little too far and below the belt. Right before Deadpool says he's gonna fight him. Both of these guys put in epic performances there.
I’m only half embarassed to say this movie shaped my personality for a whole year
I mean... Which part of the movie, right? ;) Probably not the almost suicidal, nor the "I need to do it because of (X person)"... But there is plenty of good to take from it.
I love you guys. Deadpool is the most important Marvel hero to me, without getting into some rather wordy specifics. I’ve always known there was real beauty beneath Wade’s eternal-burn-victim skin, and I thank you two for showing me what that beauty is.
I was too young to watch Deadpool when it came out and ever since then, I never bothered to think muc about Deadpool movies at all. But now that I have grown up and have been enlightened by Cinema Therapy, I feel like I really wanted to watch movies about Deadpool now. So thank you again, Cinema Therapy!
i literally can't wait until my kids are old enough to watch deadpool because i know they will love it just as much as i do and the lessons are truly eternal.
Symmetry: Wolverine shutting Wade up after their parallel film-that-shall-not-be-named moment where Wade literally couldn't talk.
I've never been so STOKED for one of your videos 😂 I LOVE Deadpool. Having a "hero" who goes through his hero journey not from being the bad guy turned good, but someone who utterly loathes himself to learn to love himself is just perfection.
I wanted to request an ep on Wolverine but then you said it's already coming? - chef's kiss - thanks guys, you got my back!
Friday!!
@@CinemaTherapyShow Oh yeaaaah! I'm ready!!!
I keep thinking a lot of characters act pompous and vulgar because they have so much love to give but they’re afraid to lose it; so as much as Deadpool acts over the top I always know there’s gonna be BIG depth as well.
The closed captions taking Happy and naming him "Lucky" has me rolling
I am really glad that this wasn't just about Deadpool to matter but giving importance to others of Wesley Snipes, Channing Tatum, Dafne Keen, and Jennifer Garner for their roles to shine in this film.
I think it's a really interesting shift to see Deadpool in the first movie being inspired to be 'heroic' by others, then figuring out what being a hero actually means to him in the second film, resulting in the third film, where he is one of the ones to try to inspire Wolverine to be a hero once more. It's possible to be a positive influence and a force of good in the world without being a 'Big H' Hero - or maybe thats what being a hero is all about in the first place anyways.
13:17 - I personally believe in aiming as high as you can, so that even when you fall short you know you made it as absolutely high as you could, but you can't beat yourself up over not always making it exactly as high as you aimed....be happy that you just even _tried_ - like running a race and being okay with it even if you didn't win, but not because you didn't even sincerely try to win, even if you are also sometimes a little bummed about it or wished you could have actually won for a little while too(just accepting that not winning everything all the time doesn't actually make you lesser than someone who wins, it's just that different people are different, and it's not always necessarily a matter of better or worse..and even if some people are better or worse than others at some things, everybody has different things they are better or worse at than others and again that alone doesn't make people greater or lesser value than each other as actual persons).
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The best part of this scene is that in the script it says something like “a glimmer of deep regret shows in his eyes but is quickly extinguished,” and Hugh Jackman plays that so incredibly well. What a legendary actor👏👏👏
Yes! This and Logan are some of my longest anticipated videos
I love when Jonathan and Alan tailor their breakdowns to match a facet of what they are reviewing. In this case, the use of fourth-wall breaks.
The most under-appreciated part of these videos is the opening minute. Credit to David Sant for that banger every time! Love the psychology of BLANK series btw.
I've loved all if the Deadpool movies, and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is totally irreplaceable, but this is by far my favorite movie in the DP franchise, and really up there for Wolverine (sorry, but there is no beating Logan).
The only way the MCU could replace Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is if they use the Laura Kinney version of Wolverine instead of the Logan version
I would rather break the law to save an abused child than obey the law and protect the abusers. Because I was abused and the law didn't protect me, and I didn't know if it even could, because the abuse was hidden; it nearly always is. So if Deadpool's way is the only way, then he's the hero we need.
*_EMET WARNING _**_3:00_*
just cover the screen until the scene changes, if i'm not wrong it's collosus getting sick.
Well done Ryan for not giving up on this character and bringing him back for his own movies. I’m a big Deadpool comic fan and when I saw him in Wolverine Origins I knew Ryan was perfect for Wade (despite all the other issues with the film). He really gets the character ❤
One quote that I learned from a video game movie was "You don't have to do big things to be a hero, just the right ones." I think this sums up Deadpool for the most part. In the third movie he wants to do big things in order to make himself worthy of being a hero. But what he finds out later is that you don't have to be part of something big to be a hero. You just have to do the right things, for the right reasons.
Deadpool honestly reminds me of one of my favorite shows, Penn & Teller Bullshit. Both have massive profanity, adult themes, crude jokes, and tackle subjects most of us don’t want to… but deep down both are almost cloyingly positive and tender and sweet. For all the blood, gore, f words, drug references, sexualization, the Deadpool movies ultimately end with “be a good person and do right by your friends and family.” It’s really touching and, I believe, the reason they remain successful. That, and they’re damned funny and chock full of fan service and references, but the beating heart is important too.
I loved Bullshit back in college.
Nothing will ever beat the cameos in Deadpool and Wolverine
When I saw the movie and got to Wolverine's monoligue to Deadpool, I wondered what would happen after that gut punch. I figured that either all the seriousness would be broken apart by a joke, or the movie would experience a tonal shift that makes it uncomfortably un-Deadpool.
I'm so glad they managed to find a middle ground by giving us the Honda Odyssey fight. It keeps the character tension by having the characters rightfully furious with each other while also giving us the fun of a freaking SUV being used as a battleground and arsenal.
Let’s F***ing go 💛❤️
9:45 I don’t know why but I find something really serene about nde’s and how they are portrayed in movies/media. Maybe it’s the feeling of the ultimate closeness to God. I wrote one in the fictional book I’m writing, and I took inspiration from how it’s done in Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children. I like the idea that God or others, much like in this scene, are just so carefree about life, knowing that it’s not the end for us, but just another beginning
I know only Part 1 is out right now but PLEASE do psychology of a hero/villain for Galinda and Elphaba from Wicked!!
Their characters are extremely complex and heavily plays on niceness vs kindness.
Another fun bit is thanks to Wolverine’s “Have you been checked for ADHD?” Us ADHDers have claimed Deadpool as our one of us.
I NEED you guys to do an episode on Aemond Targaryen!! He's such a traumatic and complex character.
Or Daemon or both!!!
I love that Deadpool's whole arc throughout the whole trilogy is a deconstruction of his mythology. In the comics, Deadpool has absolutely 0% sentimentality and nihilistic because he's aware that he's a comic character so he becomes an anarchist, I mean, he literally dared Death. However, in the films, his arc about becoming a true hero because he has people to care about and they care about him too, it's beautiful. He becomes a Hero, in his own way.
Did I scroll back through the ad to see the pupper and only the pupper. HELL YES I DID and I'd do it again.
I’ve heard ppl w/ BPD say they empathize most with Deadpool. I tend to agree. Everybody needs a hero to identify with even cluster Bs and especially pwBPD who go through a lot.
Genuinely the single most entertaining Marvel “hero?”
That wolverine monologue will forever live in my head rent free. Out of all the epic action and comedy, that speech just hits so hard.
Wolverine is a character whose rage is often loud and on display as violence. So to see it contained directed verbally is haunting. It's like when your do something bad and your dad doesn't yell at you he just calmly scolds you. You know you really fucked up because he is so angry with you that he's just gone fully numb.
That is where wolverine is at for the first time in his life. Quiet rage. Seething white hot anger.
"Sometimes the people we save, save us right back" - 100% my sentiment towards my service animals.
Yay I’m watching this immediately 🙌🏻
I would love it if you guys did an episode on Logan. I'm going through pretty tough things I won't spill my guts about now, but watching Logan trying his hardest and still getting absolutely thrashed in the movie felt pretty relatable, so I'd love to hear a therapist and filmmaker's take on that
19:05 best part about this scene is that the last bit is also wolverine also putting out the same hatred he has for himself
It applies to they both see themselves
Love you guys.
Since watching your videos I find myself enjoying film more, and seeking help for mental health things.
John, Alan, thank you.
Wolverine, going on that tangent, literally punch his points is my favorite part of the movie.
I've actually watched all the trilogy recently!
1:12 "And we're gonna be looking at rising to a better version of yourself when you don't believe there is one" And this has no applicability to Jinx Arcane s2 either so pls cover that too
What I like about Deadpool is he’s kinda like the comedic version of the punisher
My third session with my therapist I brought up Deadpool and he said I was like Deadpool
I still haven't decided what I think about that
I clicked on this almost as quickly as I clicked on the "vs Uncle Iroh" video (still my favourite of all the CT videos I've seen).
Deadpool is quite a fascinating character.
Another great character! Thanks for watching!
Things I did not expect to see today...
17:28 Did Alan really say Vanessa Nova? Sure, it's incorrect, but still works in context.
YESSSS IVE BEEN SO HYPED FOR THIS
The end of deadpool 3 made me cry, just a few tears but the music and build up just got me right in the feels... felt weird being the only one tearing up in the theater after Logans shirt ripps
Been waiting a long time for a deadpool episode from you all great job maybe do one on his mental health and his trauma
Whoa, been waiting for this one for so long! Wolverine's rant in the car is something I was on the receiving end of, almost ipsis literis.
Jono's closing thoughts on Godzilla -1.0 was something that greatly helped me get by, and I feel like it resonates a lot with Wade in this one. LFG!!!
Thank you for this video in particular, The first time I saw the scene with Cassandra in his brain I didn't think of it that much and didn't have an emotional reaction really, watching this video put it in Perspective I started crying and didn't stop till at least 20 minutes after it ended. The Catharsis is very appreciated
Is this the episode of Cinema Therapy with the most pixelated clips? Not that I mind. Just a random thought.
Ahhhhhhh!!! You did it!!!! I love you guys!
That car scene was such a great homage to Planes, Trains and Automobiles. If you look closely at Hugh Jackman at the end of his rant, you can see just a flicker of regret cross his mind. Very reminiscent of Steve Martin after tearing a strip off of John Candy. Brilliant.
You should have been in my loud-ass cinema for Wolverines' speech about Wade. The few awkward laughs at the beginning, then just DEAD silence by the end in shock. It was SO well acted.
The best part of Deadpool, in my honest opinion, is that while he's somewhat of a Hero, he's also an unapologetic ass. He swears, he shoots and ends people, he's vulgar and rude, he jokes about everything even if it's somewhat sensitive but he'll be there for those who need it and he'll do his damn best to help them if he can.
He's my favorite example of an anti-hero; he's heroic in all the ways that are necessary but also not heroic in all the ways that aren't entirely necessary.
I did not grow up watching the X-Men or any solo Wolverine movies (I didn't really get into superhero movies until Far From Home). So this movie was my first real experience with Wolverine and Huge Jackmen did such a fantastic job that I'm now convinced to go watch all the those movies.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!
That scene with Wolverine is also brilliant and heartbreaking because he talks about how dumb Wade acts but he doesn’t know that Wade uses his humor to cope with his trauma and insecurities
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What you guys really need is that very inappropriate popcorn bucket in the shape of Wolverine's head to go with your popcorn🍿😂
Thanks For This Episode , I❤ Deadpool 's Graphic Novellas & The Movies Series!
Yes, you're covering Deadpool! I wasn't sure if you could. Deadpool wants what we all want is to matter to someone, but doesn't realize how much he matters to those who love him.
7:43 I didn't know Alan knew Russian! Cool!
It’s possible he looked it up
10:33 and now you know me
Me and my dude LOVE these movies! The fact that my name is Vanessa and his initials are MM which is an inverted WW, and that we had to wait for "the time for Us," and I want to go through every struggle along side him is irrelevant 😊
Deadpool is my favorite superhero by far.
One of my favorite things about Deadpool comes from comparing him to line from the first Avengers movie. Cap is calling Tony out about not being the guy to take a knee or jump on a grenade which of course forshadows the ending of the movie, but Deadpool is exactly that guy. Not just because he's nigh immortal, but he is completely the guy that in the end will sacrifice himself for the betterment of others.