It always was money from the beginning when pirs converted Lohanas, who were best business people in the sense that they could give away a lot of money in 15th century
Thank you, sister, for raising questions that reveal the secretive truths about Ismailism. If I had known these facts earlier, I would have renounced Ismailism long ago. It's concerning that only those who are wealthy can join the Fidai majalis. Ex-Ismailis/Alhamdulillah, I follow the Deen of Islam
As an Afghan atheist ex Ismaili let me tell you Mr. Lalani that you are a genius, very brave, every intelligent, very honest and with a high conscience. As I read some comments, I see a great success in your revolutionary one man struggle against one of the most powerful man in history and exposing his true face. I must congratulate you. Jamat is realizing and coming to their sense. The maula God game and his kingdom is in the state of falling. The entire Islam faith is based on lies, deception, MONEY , politics, power, believing in nonsense stories and ideology and many crimes. A big solute to Mr. Lalani and a big shame to maula God and the entire jamat.
Jamat is realising??? Bro im from hunza and there arent any ex ismailis in hunza Not even one person in the entire GB has ever left ismailism What r u talking about?
@@AdilKarim-z3m hahaha You keep saying that and I told you the reason in the other comment already. Any community whether Gilgit Hunza, Afghan, Khoja or any it is Not because of they have a good knowledge of the faith or have a good understanding or having even common sense or anything like that. It is because they slave slave , lack of knowledge and understanding of the faith even the word faith itself, Faith is something not proven and not real. Most people just simply likes to enjoy the community social system, events and celebrations. There are individuals by listening to Mr. Salim Lalani and starting to realize that something is fishy here. You are a good example of how dumb ass people we have in Ismaili community not thinking, not listening, not understanding, just having faith blindly and nothing else.
@Shiraz354 yes we r the most hardcore We don't believe in pir shams autaar We don't fast in ramzan Some of us go for Umrah/hajj and pray on eid Many of us are part of khane hikmat
Hope he returns part of his over trillion dollars wealth collected in the name of say Zakat (12%) plus high end majlis like Noorani, My Sisters, etc. back to all of his spiritual children soon. Allah will surely ask him many questions up there! 😍😍👮🏽♀️
Thanks a million Salimbhai. This is what I was thinking and it is true. There were no majlisis except Chandraat. My dad was very skeptical. He told us to not believe blindly. I hope a lot of Ismailis are watching this. The only benefit of JK is social and somewhere to go for the seniors.
Salim, you expressed it well: those who have found the truth and the straight path, having renounced Ismailism (myself), are the ones who have received the precious gift of guidance. As stated in the Quran, Surah Al-Baqarah (2:262): "Allah guides whom He wills." This emphasizes that guidance is a blessing granted by Allah to those He chooses. Ex-Ismailis/Alhamdulillah, I follow the Deen of Islam.
Salim, you are right in saying that Ismailis do not defend their theological beliefs, which raises the question of how they can defend their position as members of the Faidai majalis.
When I was a former Ismaili, I observed that those who were not members of certain majalis were leaving the Jamat Khana themselves to allow the secretive religious practices to begin. This may still be in force in the present time, of which I am not aware it.
Ismailism is one and only religion where u have to pay entry fees and subscription to pray, Even after paying your are not praying to real God that's the tragedy 😄
Great answer. 100 % correct statement. I consider this hypocritical faith as a casino but no chance of any returns spiritually or financial. Total bogus faith. I thank Almighty Allah to have guided me to Islam and leave Ismailism Allahumdullilah
@@alkarimhaji287 I am ex Ismaili too. May I know whether you are sunni or shia? I have done enough research on religions mainly Islam. I found it one the most nonsense and full of lies, deception and many crimes.
I was just thinking-if an Ismaili is genuinely religious and wants to join these majalis but lacks the financial means, does that mean their wish will never be fulfilled in their lifetime?
After Mongolian invasion of Iran Ismaili Imams had come down to doing humble jobs and then pir Shams and Pir Sadruddin were sent to convert wealthy innocent people of Sindh Kutch and Gujrat in the name of Daswan Awtar and Rob money and so from 30th imams Islam Shah to 46th Imams Agha Hassan Ali Shah they could raise a little chieftain hood in Kirman shah
An answer to Inaara. AK children will not attend the Jamaat Khana for prayer, especially when they are expected to recite duas directed to their own father. Ismailis often find this situation embarrassing, as it feels both irrational and illogical
Excellent episode and the format is very good. People should be able to ask questions. Shyyyy is asking very relevant questions which most Ismailis don’t know the answers to. You should invite khalil Andani to come and answer these questions not that you are not able to Salim bhai but somebody like Andani who very often speaks about ismailism and posts his episode on TH-cam should have the courage to come in person. Invite him. You never know, he might say yes.
Paying a higher amount for the certain Majalis and becoming a member does not guarantee that a follower will be destined for heaven without a foundational belief in the oneness of God. If that were the case, then all wealthy people would be destined for heaven.
Think over it...Shah khalilulla was a 45 th imam of Agakhani ismailis but he never ever visited Indo-Pak murid ..he was stay in very near country Iran although he never ever gave a deedar or nor a single farman available for ismaili murid ...till date in ismailis imam's history ...amazing Mystery
dear Slim Ladoni, make a video about which books the Ismailis have , what their point of view are , what they believe in , and leave links to all materials put like to Salim Lalani see
*Humein bachpan mein sindhi mein hamesha bataya gaya ki Agakhan ke baap ka naam Aly Khan hai lekin kabhi uski maa ke baare mein kuch nahi bataya gaya kyu.......... Wajah zyadatar sab ko malum hai agar baat saamne aayi to bahot se aise raaz faash ho jayege*
*@sher5576* Have you reviewed the financial statements detailing how funds were used for luxury purchases and settlements involving millions in marital matters? Being educated and successful does not preclude spirituality, nor does it mean one is defined only by material wealth
*@sher5576* You mention that Ismailis are well-educated, but if you check with the current generation and ask them the meaning of their Ginans, many may struggle to provide an answer. Additionally, they often lack knowledge about their past Imams. Materialism and a lack of spirituality do not contribute to the progress of mankind.
@@Shiraz321 AKDN is the true example that how the money is used. You tell me how king Salman use your money that he gets from your hajj and Umrah. You guys are too far from spiritually, I am sure you don’t even know the essence of spiritually, I recommend you don’t go there the bar is too high. We get gets guidance in English directly from the Imam of the time, so we don’t depend on Ginans.
@@sher5576 If he had truly guided you on the straight path, you would not be worshipping him or associating him as a partner alongside Allah, which is a major sin in Islam. This is evidenced in your own dua book, where such associations are made explicit.
@@sher5576 The photo in this episode provides evidence that he cannot be from the Ahl al-Bayt, who are expected to guide their followers in authentic Islamic practice. He has never been seen praying with his followers in Jamatkhana or in any Muslim mosque.
Just find it hard to believe how we were sold a lie, money for this majlis,money for that majlis where does it stop. You're not allowed to discuss anything about the Majlis' and not even share the juros. I haven't the courage to leave because I'm too old now but my goodness deep down I follow Allah only. A lie for over 60 years is hard to take. I pray Allah is forgiving 🙏🏼.
*Thebeautifulgame19* You are not the only one to be blamed; there are other Ismailis who are in the same situation. I believe that the Ismaili missionaries appointed by the Imam are the culprits who have misled many of them astray instead of guiding them along a straight path
It is a sad reality. So are you shia or sunni now? Hahahaha because the entire Islam is full of nonsense, lies, deception and many crimes. Don't fall for these kinds of foolishness again.
@@Grei8tman I am a former Ismaili, and Alhamdulillah, I now follow the Deen of Islam. I fully understand that there are others with different mindsets that may seem harmful, and their evil actions do not concern me. However, I avoid generalizing all individuals based on the actions of some, as I follow the straight path of truth. I am not to judge them, as each person's journey and perspective are unique
@@Shiraz321 hahahaha It seems you are too certain about your new religion. Are you shy to to tell me if you choose to be shia or sunni or wahabi or salafi or bohra Ismaili or or some other one, because there are 72 sects in dear nonsense religion of Islam? Is you God in Saudi Arabia? There are so many questions that you must have logical answer to all. I bet no muslim have any logical answer. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your new religion.
And announcement comes in end, Do not take out Jooraa outside the JK after Majalis!! 😢😢 and then they say: One Jamaat!! Segregation in full swing behind closed doors😢😢. Hypocrisy
@@KK-fy6xf It was hurtful, but I had no choice but to accept it, as I had been brainwashed by Ismailis missionaries into believing that it was acceptable not to have jooraa from other majalis if I wasn’t a registered member. I was not in a position to afford joining the membership, so I had to accept it.
@@KK-fy6xf thank you, KK. Coffee helps with a lot of things. My fear is that, despite all our efforts, Ismailis will continue to be exploited and controlled until western governments can no longer afford to back Aga Khan.
You make no sense whatsoever, Salim!! If the point is to make money, why would the mijlases be secretive? The mijlas is not secretive, but the membership is secretive as the members are not joining to prove anything to others. The only mijlas established by Mowlana Sultan Mohamed Shah was chandraat, the rest were created because the jamat wanted to offer their time and service to the Imam. You need to get your facts right before spreading misinformation!
*Faiza* If the Jamat wants to offer their time and service to the Imam by introducing additional Majalis, apart from the forgiveness of monthly committed sins, then why is there a membership fee? It seems that only wealthy followers can participate, leaving out those who cannot afford it but wish to serve the Imam. Does that make sense?" Ex-Ismailis/ Alhamdulillah I follow Deen of Islam.
*Faiza* If Majalis is not secretive, then why do members who don’t share the firman (speech) with other Ismailis hesitate to share the jaroos with those who are not members of the Majalis?"
*Faiza* You mentioned that one needs to get the facts right before spreading misinformation. So, let’s examine how Ismailism aligns with Islam, particularly in relation to the Majalis.
I already know a few families whose children question everything, they aren't interested in Jamatkhana solely because it's about money and it clearly is. Imagine cash only and a desk for FOCUS to raise money all cash. Sorry but it's very true I want you to explain to me why are we so secretive about every aspect of our religion. We have adulterers, con men, women, drug dealers as heads of the jamat. So how is that possible explain. Clearly there similarities to Kenneth Copeland one of the richest American pastors private Jet, Mansion and money to burn all through his church. There are lots of similarities in Ismailism clear for you to see. I'm on the fence too old to leave and fear of being discriminated and excommunicated. Tell me different please I'm on the fence but deep down my Almighty is Allah only.
@husseinmerchant8758 Ismailism's theology and ideology represent an amalgamation of various religions, with many of its rituals being similar to those found in other faiths, as noted in your comment.
Khojas can easily be converted not us Gbian ismailis and hunzais are the most hardcore ismailis You will never find any ex ismaili from hunza I can bet Agaar koi hai to samnah ao!
There isn't much difference between Gbian Ismailis and other Ismaili communities; they both worship the Imam. Gbian Ismailis view the Imam as their spiritual leader and a representative of God on Earth.
Gbian Ismailis, like other Ismaili communities, worship the Imam, whom they view as their spiritual leader and a representative of God on Earth; thus, there isn't much difference between them. However, this practice can lead to associating partners with Allah, which is considered a major sin in Islam.
Remember jamat, Mr. Salim Lalani is fighting for us not for himself.
It always was money from the beginning when pirs converted Lohanas, who were best business people in the sense that they could give away a lot of money in 15th century
Thank you, sister, for raising questions that reveal the secretive truths about Ismailism. If I had known these facts earlier, I would have renounced Ismailism long ago. It's concerning that only those who are wealthy can join the Fidai majalis.
Ex-Ismailis/Alhamdulillah, I follow the Deen of Islam
As an Afghan atheist ex Ismaili let me tell you Mr. Lalani that you are a genius, very brave, every intelligent, very honest and with a high conscience. As I read some comments, I see a great success in your revolutionary one man struggle against one of the most powerful man in history and exposing his true face. I must congratulate you. Jamat is realizing and coming to their sense. The maula God game and his kingdom is in the state of falling. The entire Islam faith is based on lies, deception, MONEY , politics, power, believing in nonsense stories and ideology and many crimes. A big solute to Mr. Lalani and a big shame to maula God and the entire jamat.
Jamat is realising???
Bro im from hunza and there arent any ex ismailis in hunza
Not even one person in the entire GB has ever left ismailism
What r u talking about?
@@AdilKarim-z3m hahaha You keep saying that and I told you the reason in the other comment already. Any community whether Gilgit Hunza, Afghan, Khoja or any it is Not because of they have a good knowledge of the faith or have a good understanding or having even common sense or anything like that. It is because they slave slave , lack of knowledge and understanding of the faith even the word faith itself, Faith is something not proven and not real. Most people just simply likes to enjoy the community social system, events and celebrations. There are individuals by listening to Mr. Salim Lalani and starting to realize that something is fishy here. You are a good example of how dumb ass people we have in Ismaili community not thinking, not listening, not understanding, just having faith blindly and nothing else.
@@AdilKarim-z3m
Are Gbian Ismailis different from other Ismaili communities around the world in their ideology?
As a proud Afghan Ismaili, I know you become atheist out of ignorance not knowledge.
@Shiraz354 yes we r the most hardcore
We don't believe in pir shams autaar
We don't fast in ramzan
Some of us go for Umrah/hajj and pray on eid
Many of us are part of khane hikmat
Very well said, Salim, this is eye opner hope ismailies are listening.
Ex ismailiee
No use all in vain
Hope he returns part of his over trillion dollars wealth collected in the name of say Zakat (12%) plus high end majlis like Noorani, My Sisters, etc. back to all of his spiritual children soon. Allah will surely ask him many questions up there! 😍😍👮🏽♀️
Thanks a million Salimbhai. This is what I was thinking and it is true. There were no majlisis except Chandraat. My dad was very skeptical. He told us to not believe blindly.
I hope a lot of Ismailis are watching this.
The only benefit of JK is social and somewhere to go for the seniors.
Salim, you expressed it well: those who have found the truth and the straight path, having renounced Ismailism (myself), are the ones who have received the precious gift of guidance.
As stated in the Quran, Surah Al-Baqarah (2:262): "Allah guides whom He wills." This emphasizes that guidance is a blessing granted by Allah to those He chooses.
Ex-Ismailis/Alhamdulillah, I follow the Deen of Islam.
Salim, you are right in saying that Ismailis do not defend their theological beliefs, which raises the question of how they can defend their position as members of the Faidai majalis.
When I was a former Ismaili, I observed that those who were not members of certain majalis were leaving the Jamat Khana themselves to allow the secretive religious practices to begin. This may still be in force in the present time, of which I am not aware it.
It's still the case I find it extraordinary.
@@Thebeautifulreligion19
Thank you so much for your response!
Ismailism is one and only religion where u have to pay entry fees and subscription to pray, Even after paying your are not praying to real God that's the tragedy 😄
Great answer. 100 % correct statement. I consider this hypocritical faith as a casino but no chance of any returns spiritually or financial. Total bogus faith. I thank Almighty Allah to have guided me to Islam and leave Ismailism Allahumdullilah
@@alkarimhaji287 I am ex Ismaili too. May I know whether you are sunni or shia? I have done enough research on religions mainly Islam. I found it one the most nonsense and full of lies, deception and many crimes.
I was just thinking-if an Ismaili is genuinely religious and wants to join these majalis but lacks the financial means, does that mean their wish will never be fulfilled in their lifetime?
After Mongolian invasion of Iran Ismaili Imams had come down to doing humble jobs and then pir Shams and Pir Sadruddin were sent to convert wealthy innocent people of Sindh Kutch and Gujrat in the name of Daswan Awtar and Rob money and so from 30th imams Islam Shah to 46th Imams Agha Hassan Ali Shah they could raise a little chieftain hood in Kirman shah
An answer to Inaara.
AK children will not attend the Jamaat Khana for prayer, especially when they are expected to recite duas directed to their own father. Ismailis often find this situation embarrassing, as it feels both irrational and illogical
It's actually the Kutchi people who lost their name game and culture by becoming Ismailid
Questions: Is their Ismailiism any different than statism? If so, how? What is a step we can take to stop their nonsensical-practices(Ismailiism)?
His biological children are enjoying life, and what businesses AK is involved please name any brand he is running
Excellent episode and the format is very good. People should be able to ask questions. Shyyyy is asking very relevant questions which most Ismailis don’t know the answers to. You should invite khalil Andani to come and answer these questions not that you are not able to Salim bhai but somebody like Andani who very often speaks about ismailism and posts his episode on TH-cam should have the courage to come in person. Invite him. You never know, he might say yes.
Salim Lalani's platform provides a space for Ismailis and their missionaries to engage in discussions and defend the ideology of Ismailism.
Paying a higher amount for the certain Majalis and becoming a member does not guarantee that a follower will be destined for heaven without a foundational belief in the oneness of God. If that were the case, then all wealthy people would be destined for heaven.
@husseinmerchant8758
Jazakallah khair ,Brother Hussein.
brother , I have a question , will the children (spiritual) be included in his will and wealth ?
Think over it...Shah khalilulla was a 45 th imam of Agakhani ismailis but he never ever visited Indo-Pak murid ..he was stay in very near country Iran although he never ever gave a deedar or nor a single farman available for ismaili murid ...till date in ismailis imam's history ...amazing Mystery
dear Slim Ladoni, make a video about which books the Ismailis have , what their point of view are , what they believe in , and leave links to all materials put like to Salim Lalani see
*Humein bachpan mein sindhi mein hamesha bataya gaya ki Agakhan ke baap ka naam Aly Khan hai lekin kabhi uski maa ke baare mein kuch nahi bataya gaya kyu.......... Wajah zyadatar sab ko malum hai agar baat saamne aayi to bahot se aise raaz faash ho jayege*
As a proud Ismaili. We know where the Imam used the money, look at Ismaili community of 150 years ago and today more educated and prosperous.
*@sher5576*
Have you reviewed the financial statements detailing how funds were used for luxury purchases and settlements involving millions in marital matters?
Being educated and successful does not preclude spirituality, nor does it mean one is defined only by material wealth
*@sher5576*
You mention that Ismailis are well-educated, but if you check with the current generation and ask them the meaning of their Ginans, many may struggle to provide an answer. Additionally, they often lack knowledge about their past Imams. Materialism and a lack of spirituality do not contribute to the progress of mankind.
@@Shiraz321 AKDN is the true example that how the money is used.
You tell me how king Salman use your money that he gets from your hajj and Umrah.
You guys are too far from spiritually, I am sure you don’t even know the essence of spiritually, I recommend you don’t go there the bar is too high.
We get gets guidance in English directly from the Imam of the time, so we don’t depend on Ginans.
@@sher5576
If he had truly guided you on the straight path, you would not be worshipping him or associating him as a partner alongside Allah, which is a major sin in Islam. This is evidenced in your own dua book, where such associations are made explicit.
@@sher5576
The photo in this episode provides evidence that he cannot be from the Ahl al-Bayt, who are expected to guide their followers in authentic Islamic practice. He has never been seen praying with his followers in Jamatkhana or in any Muslim mosque.
MQM and Imran Khan has adopted but are criticized right and left
Is the Aga Khan buying his honorary degrees by donating money?
Just find it hard to believe how we were sold a lie, money for this majlis,money for that majlis where does it stop. You're not allowed to discuss anything about the Majlis' and not even share the juros. I haven't the courage to leave because I'm too old now but my goodness deep down I follow Allah only. A lie for over 60 years is hard to take. I pray Allah is forgiving 🙏🏼.
*Thebeautifulgame19*
You are not the only one to be blamed; there are other Ismailis who are in the same situation. I believe that the Ismaili missionaries appointed by the Imam are the culprits who have misled many of them astray instead of guiding them along a straight path
@@Shiraz321 Thank you Allahamdulilah.
It is a sad reality. So are you shia or sunni now? Hahahaha because the entire Islam is full of nonsense, lies, deception and many crimes. Don't fall for these kinds of foolishness again.
@@Grei8tman
I am a former Ismaili, and Alhamdulillah, I now follow the Deen of Islam.
I fully understand that there are others with different mindsets that may seem harmful, and their evil actions do not concern me. However, I avoid generalizing all individuals based on the actions of some, as I follow the straight path of truth. I am not to judge them, as each person's journey and perspective are unique
@@Shiraz321 hahahaha It seems you are too certain about your new religion. Are you shy to to tell me if you choose to be shia or sunni or wahabi or salafi or bohra Ismaili or or some other one, because there are 72 sects in dear nonsense religion of Islam? Is you God in Saudi Arabia? There are so many questions that you must have logical answer to all. I bet no muslim have any logical answer. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your new religion.
The background noise is irritating…..
Focus on the questions instead of getting caught up in minor issues that aren't important.
Thank you.
And announcement comes in end, Do not take out Jooraa outside the JK after Majalis!! 😢😢 and then they say: One Jamaat!!
Segregation in full swing behind closed doors😢😢. Hypocrisy
When I was a former Ismaili, some of my relatives told me directly that we couldn’t share our jooraa because I wasn’t a member of the majalis.
@@Shiraz321 Ain’t that Hurtful?
@@KK-fy6xf
It was hurtful, but I had no choice but to accept it, as I had been brainwashed by Ismailis missionaries into believing that it was acceptable not to have jooraa from other majalis if I wasn’t a registered member.
I was not in a position to afford joining the membership, so I had to accept it.
@@Shiraz321 Same here, couldn’t afford it when I/ we were young.
His children are Noorani not mureeds
Would you consider prince Aly Khan (play boy) norani family
@@saleemlakhani4622😂😂
Good Question. International Playboy. My foot Noorani family 😂😂. Ismailis need to smell the Coffee
@@KK-fy6xf thank you, KK. Coffee helps with a lot of things.
My fear is that, despite all our efforts, Ismailis will continue to be exploited and controlled until western governments can no longer afford to back Aga Khan.
Andhbhakti aur chtyape ki hadh
The woman should mute her mic if she wants to eat while listening.
Focus on the questions instead of getting caught up in minor issues that aren't important.
She's coughing, spluttering, eating. Once she even sounded like she was choking.
You make no sense whatsoever, Salim!! If the point is to make money, why would the mijlases be secretive? The mijlas is not secretive, but the membership is secretive as the members are not joining to prove anything to others. The only mijlas established by Mowlana Sultan Mohamed Shah was chandraat, the rest were created because the jamat wanted to offer their time and service to the Imam. You need to get your facts right before spreading misinformation!
*Faiza*
If the Jamat wants to offer their time and service to the Imam by introducing additional Majalis, apart from the forgiveness of monthly committed sins, then why is there a membership fee? It seems that only wealthy followers can participate, leaving out those who cannot afford it but wish to serve the Imam. Does that make sense?"
Ex-Ismailis/ Alhamdulillah I follow Deen of Islam.
*Faiza*
If Majalis is not secretive, then why do members who don’t share the firman (speech) with other Ismailis hesitate to share the jaroos with those who are not members of the Majalis?"
*Faiza*
You mentioned that one needs to get the facts right before spreading misinformation. So, let’s examine how Ismailism aligns with Islam, particularly in relation to the Majalis.
I already know a few families whose children question everything, they aren't interested in Jamatkhana solely because it's about money and it clearly is. Imagine cash only and a desk for FOCUS to raise money all cash. Sorry but it's very true I want you to explain to me why are we so secretive about every aspect of our religion. We have adulterers, con men, women, drug dealers as heads of the jamat. So how is that possible explain. Clearly there similarities to Kenneth Copeland one of the richest American pastors private Jet, Mansion and money to burn all through his church. There are lots of similarities in Ismailism clear for you to see. I'm on the fence too old to leave and fear of being discriminated and excommunicated. Tell me different please I'm on the fence but deep down my Almighty is Allah only.
@husseinmerchant8758
Ismailism's theology and ideology represent an amalgamation of various religions, with many of its rituals being similar to those found in other faiths, as noted in your comment.
Wake up and go where???
Go into Science, you don’t need mumble jumble for your life.
Khojas can easily be converted not us Gbian ismailis and hunzais are the most hardcore ismailis
You will never find any ex ismaili from hunza
I can bet
Agaar koi hai to samnah ao!
Are Gbian Ismailis different from other Ismaili communities around the world in their ideology?
There isn't much difference between Gbian Ismailis and other Ismaili communities; they both worship the Imam. Gbian Ismailis view the Imam as their spiritual leader and a representative of God on Earth.
@Shiraz354 he is everliving all knowledgeable
Shiraz why isn't there a single ex ismaili in the entire gilgit Baltistan?not even a single one
Gbian Ismailis, like other Ismaili communities, worship the Imam, whom they view as their spiritual leader and a representative of God on Earth; thus, there isn't much difference between them. However, this practice can lead to associating partners with Allah, which is considered a major sin in Islam.
@@Shiraz321 even I have my khtna done
Afghani Ismaili bahag kar Pakistan aa gaha hai