It's important to remember that Dre doesn't even like his own beats lmao, he said in 2020 he made like 300 songs, but we ain't hearing them 😂the man has an ear and holds himself to that high level too, it's his blessing and his curse
That’s exactly right… I can understand the deep need to be super original, but sometimes, the beat is just a beat and it’s about what the artist brings to it. From there, you change things up after the vocal is down.
Even though it seems like a life altering failure he cared enough to listen and gave you game. Props to you for taking the moment as a learning opportunity and moving forward. This is inspirational. Thank you!
Dre also didn’t like Regulate when Warren G first played it for him and that song became an anthem when it hit the streets. Our heroes can be flat out wrong. Or just because they aren’t feeling a track for them doesn’t mean the masses won’t vibe with it.
I really respect his honesty. It's always easy to nod your head to someone's beats you've just met even if you don't like them, but he respected you enough to give you his real take - and it helped you out in the end too. Super inspiring
Hell of a story man. I know it had to hurt. But think of it this way: This video would have 1/3rd the views it does if it was called "Dr Dre liked my beats." We'd all shrug and keep scrolling. But you gave us an honest story, and got some real feedback from arguably the greatest hip-hop artist ever. Also it goes without saying, but Dr. Dre's opinion is still just an opinion.
Dre can be very particular with his beats, i remember hearing Just Blaze saying he had a beat for Dre for the Detox album but that beat landed on Ushers album Confessions, the song was "Throwback" ft Jadakiss, it sounds like a beat Dr Dre would rap on 😂
I appreciate this. All too often it seems like everyone wants what has already been done. To hear that someone like Dre wants a unique sound or something new is very inspiring.
Bro mad respect!!! This is such an important lesson. Any situation can be turned into a lesson and a positive. I always think of that scene in the Kanye documentary when Scarface comes into the studio and Kanye’s playing him beats to get on, and he doesn’t want to get on any of them, but he said the beats are dope, and Kanye just focuses on the fact he said they were dope, not the fact that he turned down what he initially came in for. Mindset is everything. Thanks for sharing this experience, super motivating and a great reminder to push a unique wave 🙌🏻
There’s a difference between hating and not choosing a dope beat. I can see how Dre may have come off at first but he was honest AND gave a critique. Cool video.
I can't imagine what it felt like when he didn't like your beats man, that's enough to crush anyone. I'm glad you had the perseverance and determination years later to change his mind though. Inspiring man, thank you.
Every single time I have gotten a critique from someone I’ve always improved to a level unseen before the criticism! Critics made me a MONSTER! I relish in it!
Nice. More stories would be appreciated. That feeling when u meet a well known producer and they don't like your beats. Been there before 😅. I just went back home and made more beats to improve
That's a great story. I like how you say it was a major turning point in your career. As hard as it was to hear, that constuctive criticism was honest and its cool how you decided to learn from it. Better he spoke his mind and leveled with you instead of just being polite.
He did that to push you, fam. He heard the potential and what it was. That on his phone stuff, looking bored…that was a tactic. That’s his brilliance. And look at you now. What a moment. Thank you for sharing, bro! Incredibly dope story.
Thanks for sharing this Ill. I know this statement to be true and know that this is what separates beatmakers form producers. So I am humbled for this testimony. I now have to consider that it's time to think more outside the box. Blessings! 💯
Hey the opportunity to let it him hear things you poured your soul in is awesome regardless of his opinion, and to be able to take and process the opinion and utilize it is even way beyond that. Good for you dude ❤
Bro thank you so much for sharing this💪🏿💪🏿!!! you have no idea how much this video helps others. This makes me change the way I think about music just from hearing those words he said!!!! Thank you fam!!!
I use to be a Dre fan then I realized he uses ghost producers and really talent musicians that come up with great ideas that he calls his own. Once I found that out I never really vibes with his music anymore. It was a blessing things worked out that way for you.
Peep the credits for all the albums and tracks that dropped back then and you'll see credits for everyone. That's not a ghost producer. Dre is just the Quincy Jones of Hip-Hop. Quincy doesn't make records in a room by himself with an mpc and a keyboard. He tells the musicians what to play.
All the big time producers do the same thing. They all used to be beat makers and they earned their respect. When they reach a level they start hiring talent from Southside 808 mafia, Scott Storch, to Louie Vega the house music legend. They now compose the beat using other peoples talent and they may add the finishing touches
I loved this story and appreciate that you could see that moment for what it was. Sometimes being humbled is what resets your perspective and propels you forward. We all respect honesty and getting feedback from a legend rarely happens.
My music has ALWAYS been “leftfield” and for a long time it kept me from making much progress in the mainstream music industry. I saw some success but I never became the super producer I envisioned as a kid. Eventually I found my niche in instrumental music production and sync. I just had to be true to myself and make what I enjoy listening to. Eventually, the right people will find you and appreciate your sound. Keep pushing everyone.
I played my beats at dr dres studio but Dr dres team were there instead haha thank god. I also had the same experience with DJ Mustard. I thought I was on one but Mustard said they are ok but nothing special. That was a life changing moment for me and gave me thick skin!! Afew year later Im in Ill Minds pass the aux and I had the room including Aftermath, Ill Mind and Aftermaths A&R going NUTS!!!! Much love !LL Mind
I would've been shook if Dre wanted to hear my beats too! If only you had played each beat, turned around to look at him to get a reaction from him and maybe asking for his opinion, you'd probably know and maybe get a sense of it was 👍🏽 or 👎🏾 for him. At any rate, I'm glad he still hooked up with you and used some of your beats! 🔥 Keep doing your thing paré, you're a huge inspiration! ✌🏽🇵🇭
My uncle Wah Wah Watson said to me when I did a song for Kobe at The Village to always work on your on sound! He heard something in what I did and he encouraged to stay true to what it is that I do! RIP to Melvin Ragin aka Wah Wah Watson!!!!!!
I had a similar story and took it completely the wrong way! Ha! Sent into spiralling depression which left me somewhat isolated. It's nice to hear someone won where I lost!
Let’s be honest. The best beats Dr Dre produced was when he had Scott Storch on the keys and Mike Elizondo on the bass. Since then. He hasn’t done much. 🤷🏻♂️
Got it. Not always a bad thing. To have things that someone doesn't like. Nor even personal. Be brilliant within one's self. Keep moving forward. The universe is moved on,& by frequencies.
1: Dre obviously had learned to be that honest during his career, before you even have a chance to make it in the biz and he showed you respect by not bullshitting you out some form of courtesy. 2: I guess you grew up faster than if you had never met him. Yes, thinking outside the box is basically always the best way to improve.
I think when it comes to Music (and art in general) the goldilocks zone is you want to be different, but not "too different". It's this very narrow middle-ground that you have to find to set yourself apart from the next man. Remember, there are producers and artists on every corner. You can't do the same things and expect to stand-out. Especially among someone who listens to music day-in and day-out.
Thanks for sharing your story, must have been rough at the time but you got a great result in the end fam. You’ve given me a few things to think about, thank you for this…👍🏽👍🏽
A lot of rappers hear beats on albums and don't realise the finished product is what is made after the artist has performed. In the beginning our beats are bare bones, case in point Nashiem's latest story on Biggie writing Somebody's Gotta Die to a sample loop
No different than being a good college football player & then going to work out for Belichek or pick an NFL team. The difference between college & pro levels is substantial. You might be good , but are you ready. Dope story, its inspiring !!
What’s crazy is I had a friend named Andre that I found out that raps when I moved to Atlanta, when I got back to ny I played him some of my beats and he said they sound mad generic and one dimensional, I kept a straight face but I was floored.. they was my bangers, I thought was straight fire.. ever since then I’m tried to add layers of sauce to my bears. looking back at them beats not lol he wasn’t lying.😅
So many people can male beats and we always imagine our beats to be unique to so many others and the way he said its like everything else he's heard, it's not that he dosent like it, it's that it dosent bring that Hit material, Dr Dre is a sound engineer his samples and beats are equalised in such a way that shows experience in how to manipulate the sound not just putting together instruments, melody and beat, I make beats, and I never pursued it to think its gonna be a successful career, very competitive and you need alot of money to have the best equipment so it sounds better than others.
Yo Ill-Mind, I don't necessarily think he hated your beats. I think he was trying to push you to be more creative and make better beats.. In which you made better beats, and he was able to use 2 of your beats so he can record on. DOPE!!
It's important to remember that Dre doesn't even like his own beats lmao, he said in 2020 he made like 300 songs, but we ain't hearing them 😂the man has an ear and holds himself to that high level too, it's his blessing and his curse
Remember Ill, you actually make beats unlike Dre.
Word
That’s exactly right…
I can understand the deep need to be super original, but sometimes, the beat is just a beat and it’s about what the artist brings to it.
From there, you change things up after the vocal is down.
@@bangmateo7481 what an ignorant comment based on some stupid myth that Dre doesn't make beats smh
@davidanugo Scott Storch, for example, can play all your favorite Dre songs you know why? Because he created the melodies.
Even though it seems like a life altering failure he cared enough to listen and gave you game. Props to you for taking the moment as a learning opportunity and moving forward. This is inspirational. Thank you!
Yessir it was humbling
Dre also didn’t like Regulate when Warren G first played it for him and that song became an anthem when it hit the streets. Our heroes can be flat out wrong. Or just because they aren’t feeling a track for them doesn’t mean the masses won’t vibe with it.
I really respect his honesty. It's always easy to nod your head to someone's beats you've just met even if you don't like them, but he respected you enough to give you his real take - and it helped you out in the end too. Super inspiring
Hell of a story man. I know it had to hurt. But think of it this way: This video would have 1/3rd the views it does if it was called "Dr Dre liked my beats." We'd all shrug and keep scrolling. But you gave us an honest story, and got some real feedback from arguably the greatest hip-hop artist ever. Also it goes without saying, but Dr. Dre's opinion is still just an opinion.
You should've replied with "Well, let's hear some of your beats then" lol
Dre can be very particular with his beats, i remember hearing Just Blaze saying he had a beat for Dre for the Detox album but that beat landed on Ushers album Confessions, the song was "Throwback" ft Jadakiss, it sounds like a beat Dr Dre would rap on 😂
i can totally hear him over this beat
That’s probably why he didn’t want it he had that beat already made
I appreciate this. All too often it seems like everyone wants what has already been done. To hear that someone like Dre wants a unique sound or something new is very inspiring.
Exactly
So fire. Reminds me or Herbie Hancock telling the story of when Myles Davis said “Don’t play the butter notes.” Basically “dont play the obvious.”
Bro mad respect!!! This is such an important lesson. Any situation can be turned into a lesson and a positive. I always think of that scene in the Kanye documentary when Scarface comes into the studio and Kanye’s playing him beats to get on, and he doesn’t want to get on any of them, but he said the beats are dope, and Kanye just focuses on the fact he said they were dope, not the fact that he turned down what he initially came in for. Mindset is everything. Thanks for sharing this experience, super motivating and a great reminder to push a unique wave 🙌🏻
There’s a difference between hating and not choosing a dope beat. I can see how Dre may have come off at first but he was honest AND gave a critique. Cool video.
You should play us some of those beats. I’m curious how big the disconnect was between what you were making and what Dre was after
yeah i'd love to hear them
I would love to hear what Dre listened to by him! For him to even play them beats for Dre they must have been somewhat halfway decent?
yup we need to hear those 5, 6 beats so we can make an opinion too
Let'sgoooo
@@sidekick4 huh it’s a learning opportunity? Ill’s business if he wants to share or not and I don’t expect him to.
I can't imagine what it felt like when he didn't like your beats man, that's enough to crush anyone. I'm glad you had the perseverance and determination years later to change his mind though. Inspiring man, thank you.
Every single time I have gotten a critique from someone I’ve always improved to a level unseen before the criticism! Critics made me a MONSTER! I relish in it!
Yeah that’s dope hella inspiring!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Great story mate, love your beats for 50 ("All His Love" and "On Everything").
Nice. More stories would be appreciated. That feeling when u meet a well known producer and they don't like your beats. Been there before 😅. I just went back home and made more beats to improve
Always gotta improve
That is a great advice from Dr Dre , thanks for sharing and congratulations Brother 🎉. God Bless you Both !!!
That's a great story. I like how you say it was a major turning point in your career. As hard as it was to hear, that constuctive criticism was honest and its cool how you decided to learn from it. Better he spoke his mind and leveled with you instead of just being polite.
He did that to push you, fam. He heard the potential and what it was. That on his phone stuff, looking bored…that was a tactic. That’s his brilliance. And look at you now. What a moment. Thank you for sharing, bro! Incredibly dope story.
Nah that was Gods tactic thru dre. Dre was just being natural but illmind caught the divine message
@@bulbasewer not mad at this at all. 100% fact. All praises due to The Almighty!
It takes a lot of character and discipline to turn such an experience into a lesson. How good must it feel when he liked your beats years later?
It was wild! Came back stronger and that built my confidence even more
@@IllMindproducer Curious to know what "key" or "scale" Dre mention he likes to use?
@@MrAnutha1 d sharp minor works for everyone, scott storch's favourite
Great story. Love seeing you on this platform more.
Ruslan !!!
one of mine almost made the compton album. i was at the studio with them for 2 days and it didnt make it in the end. i was absolutely gutted.
Thanks for sharing this Ill. I know this statement to be true and know that this is what separates beatmakers form producers. So I am humbled for this testimony. I now have to consider that it's time to think more outside the box. Blessings! 💯
very cool story and inspiring... Extremely cool that you chilled with the DOC.!
Thank you for sharing this bro, this will also have an impact on me too
Hey the opportunity to let it him hear things you poured your soul in is awesome regardless of his opinion, and to be able to take and process the opinion and utilize it is even way beyond that.
Good for you dude ❤
Talk about a trajectory shift… life changing moment!
Bro thank you so much for sharing this💪🏿💪🏿!!! you have no idea how much this video helps others. This makes me change the way I think about music just from hearing those words he said!!!! Thank you fam!!!
I use to be a Dre fan then I realized he uses ghost producers and really talent musicians that come up with great ideas that he calls his own. Once I found that out I never really vibes with his music anymore. It was a blessing things worked out that way for you.
Peep the credits for all the albums and tracks that dropped back then and you'll see credits for everyone. That's not a ghost producer. Dre is just the Quincy Jones of Hip-Hop. Quincy doesn't make records in a room by himself with an mpc and a keyboard. He tells the musicians what to play.
All the big time producers do the same thing. They all used to be beat makers and they earned their respect. When they reach a level they start hiring talent from Southside 808 mafia, Scott Storch, to Louie Vega the house music legend. They now compose the beat using other peoples talent and they may add the finishing touches
I loved this story and appreciate that you could see that moment for what it was. Sometimes being humbled is what resets your perspective and propels you forward. We all respect honesty and getting feedback from a legend rarely happens.
My music has ALWAYS been “leftfield” and for a long time it kept me from making much progress in the mainstream music industry. I saw some success but I never became the super producer I envisioned as a kid. Eventually I found my niche in instrumental music production and sync. I just had to be true to myself and make what I enjoy listening to. Eventually, the right people will find you and appreciate your sound. Keep pushing everyone.
I played my beats at dr dres studio but Dr dres team were there instead haha thank god. I also had the same experience with DJ Mustard. I thought I was on one but Mustard said they are ok but nothing special. That was a life changing moment for me and gave me thick skin!! Afew year later Im in Ill Minds pass the aux and I had the room including Aftermath, Ill Mind and Aftermaths A&R going NUTS!!!! Much love !LL Mind
I would've been shook if Dre wanted to hear my beats too! If only you had played each beat, turned around to look at him to get a reaction from him and maybe asking for his opinion, you'd probably know and maybe get a sense of it was 👍🏽 or 👎🏾 for him. At any rate, I'm glad he still hooked up with you and used some of your beats! 🔥 Keep doing your thing paré, you're a huge inspiration! ✌🏽🇵🇭
My uncle Wah Wah Watson said to me when I did a song for Kobe at The Village to always work on your on sound! He heard something in what I did and he encouraged to stay true to what it is that I do! RIP to Melvin Ragin aka Wah Wah Watson!!!!!!
Crazy story a real eye opener man. Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
Great story...Keep them coming🙏🏾
I had a similar story and took it completely the wrong way! Ha! Sent into spiralling depression which left me somewhat isolated. It's nice to hear someone won where I lost!
That is not failure, it was learning lesson that changed your life! Salute
This some useful information 💪🔥 appreciate you sharing your story illmind much love to you 🙏🏼
Your honesty is everything bro!
The best part of this story is the redemption! The bounce back and the ending made it all worth while
Let’s be honest. The best beats Dr Dre produced was when he had Scott Storch on the keys and Mike Elizondo on the bass. Since then. He hasn’t done much. 🤷🏻♂️
"Yo Im tryna hear some beats." Dre sounding like King Kong
Got it. Not always a bad thing. To have things that someone doesn't like. Nor even personal. Be brilliant within one's self. Keep moving forward. The universe is moved on,& by frequencies.
I’ve been following your career ever since you worked with akrobatik
Needed to hear this
1: Dre obviously had learned to be that honest during his career, before you even have a chance to make it in the biz and he showed you respect by not bullshitting you out some form of courtesy.
2: I guess you grew up faster than if you had never met him.
Yes, thinking outside the box is basically always the best way to improve.
Hey you should make a video on what beats you played dre!🔥🔥🔥
Shouts to Dre for not sugarcoating it. We all need that & for the record (no pun) I’ve always liked your sound. Gr8 storytime man.
Goosebumps!! Thank you for sharing
I wish I could have a one on one with you. I'm trying to do that but find myself struggling trying to figure it out on my own.
Saying it’s nothing I haven’t heard before in 2023 is like saying the sky is blue though. But maybe it was different in 2014.
I think when it comes to Music (and art in general) the goldilocks zone is you want to be different, but not "too different". It's this very narrow middle-ground that you have to find to set yourself apart from the next man. Remember, there are producers and artists on every corner. You can't do the same things and expect to stand-out. Especially among someone who listens to music day-in and day-out.
Thanks for dropping that jewell Ill Mind!
Bro ya beats are fuegoooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for being humble enough to admit this. We also learn from you.
im still grateful that you took me to dre's with you. 2 days in a row. ✊🏾
Play us them beats u played dre. Let's us be the judge now
!llmind, could I ask you what piano sample you used on Unseen's 'Keep Movin'? That beat was ridiculously gorgeous.
Thanks for sharing your story, must have been rough at the time but you got a great result in the end fam. You’ve given me a few things to think about, thank you for this…👍🏽👍🏽
your work with Skyzoo was amazing! I rank "Live From The Tape Deck" as one of the best albums ever!
Great inspiration story right here. The grind doesn’t stop even through “failure”
Yo can we hear the beats u played? Or the beats u would play now?
The album you did with little brother is classic
I always dug your beats, you made some memorable 90's material
My dream is to collab with the Legendary Filipino ILL Mind ! Kabayan Idol!
Dope! I would have been so devastated.
A lot of rappers hear beats on albums and don't realise the finished product is what is made after the artist has performed. In the beginning our beats are bare bones, case in point Nashiem's latest story on Biggie writing Somebody's Gotta Die to a sample loop
very cool. thanks for sharing
Dope story! Lessons. Salute
Cool story! Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed this video.
Rly enjoying the Style and the content! Thanks for sharing the Story 🙏🏻
Was this encounter the inspiration for “All This Love”?
Dope ASF Bro! Especially the knowledge that cam out of it.💪🏿
What key does Dre like?! That’s interesting content right there
No different than being a good college football player & then going to work out for Belichek or pick an NFL team. The difference between college & pro levels is substantial. You might be good , but are you ready. Dope story, its inspiring !!
Have you collabed with the Doctor since? Curious
awesome lesson, thanks for your humility and giving
Lol this is an epic story. You should consider doing a cartoon version of this video 😂.
1:28 love it 😂😂😂
At least you got that interaction,it was meant to happen
What’s crazy is I had a friend named Andre that I found out that raps when I moved to Atlanta, when I got back to ny I played him some of my beats and he said they sound mad generic and one dimensional, I kept a straight face but I was floored.. they was my bangers, I thought was straight fire.. ever since then I’m tried to add layers of sauce to my bears. looking back at them beats not lol he wasn’t lying.😅
this is a great story bro
So many people can male beats and we always imagine our beats to be unique to so many others and the way he said its like everything else he's heard, it's not that he dosent like it, it's that it dosent bring that Hit material, Dr Dre is a sound engineer his samples and beats are equalised in such a way that shows experience in how to manipulate the sound not just putting together instruments, melody and beat, I make beats, and I never pursued it to think its gonna be a successful career, very competitive and you need alot of money to have the best equipment so it sounds better than others.
This is real life! Thank you for your story fam 🙏🏾!!
This is good info that should help any producer get to the next level.
Appreciate you sharing brother
Yo Ill-Mind, I don't necessarily think he hated your beats. I think he was trying to push you to be more creative and make better beats.. In which you made better beats, and he was able to use 2 of your beats so he can record on. DOPE!!
Thanks for sharing!
This is a really good video! Thank you much.
Where a those beats to hear it?
that is A1 content we all needed i love the happy ending lol
where can we hear these beats ?
Very cool and inspiring story sir! Thank you for sharing!
What a lesson! We got to hear those beats you played to him maaaan 👀
Talk about being motivated by a GOAT.... What an amazing opportunity you were blessed with.
Big up Bloomfield, what up Ill
Love the stories man, keep em coming!
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