Such a pleasure to listen to a real politician, a trusted leader, a servant of the people and an agent for change. It's been too long since such a voice was heard in the land, indeed on the continent.
he got the wrong briefing though, ""GO TO EASTERN CAPE TARGET TRADITIONAL LEADERS AND THE CHURCH PEOPLE" bcos anc believes these are the only left groups with seemingly true following, and they are tribalistic so they will fall for anc if it shows a historical transkei eastern cape face, give me one person who can convince south africa about anc..i mean south africans are exhausted, frican national congress is misusing Thabo Mbeki, and he fell for it? or ? niyasibhidisa yhaz. i feel like screaming shem
What I love about him is that he seems to seriously focus on the ANC and their wrong doings over the years, not blame anybody else or make excuses...which is what the ANC do. Respect!
He is a towering figure in the history of the ANC.A man of character who always life with his deeds,words and principles.He is a character himself bc's characters like alphabet,numbers ,statues doesn't change whether in Asia ,at night,day, the number 1 is always 1,A is always a .Statues remain statues no matter the circumstances around them .My president is not a cameleon.Thabo you are not blaming other people you reflecting about the grave mistakes the ANC has made and we are waiting for the renewal of this mighty organisation.Together let us do more .Ditau tsa hloka seboka di Sia ke Nare e hlotsa.
Isn't that what we thought about Cyril when he took over in 2018, exemplary or not, he played a role in the death of so many South Africans during the HIV AND AIDS PANDEMIC because of an arms deal, what is being done to Zuma today, Zuma did to Mbeki, the same will be done to Ramaphosa, they are all just jokes.
'' One of the negative features that has emerged, is the emergence of careerism within our ranks, many amongst our members, see their membership of the ANC as means to advance their personal ambitions, to attain power and access to resources for their own individual gratification'' Very True
...and nobody knew this? Do we only see or hear or think when some esteemed "leader" says something? Of course not. Many people in S.A. know exactly what the ANC is doing.
@@caughtontape5829 now the excuse is not apartheid but tribalism. The fact that you think like this you are no better than the person you are accusing. I was born and grew up in KZN but no longer live there and guess you are from there. KZN is where the arch tribalists live.
As a fully grown man I realised that you can disagree with your Idol without losing the love for aspects you agree with him on. Triabalism is a Big factor in South Africa and the first of many steps against it is, acknowledgement. And Mbeki as a wise old man should have known better than to make reckless factional remarks in a tribalistic ANC province. Other than political correctness and kumbaya, there is no evidence to contradict my assertion of tribalism within the ANC Eastern Cape. You can look at the top 6, PEC no tribal mix as if we are in Bantustans in 2021.
@@caughtontape5829 You may be mistaken there as President Mbeki first made appearance in ANC gatherings last year in KwaZulu Natal at the invitation of the KZN ANC PEC, the EC ANC is the second to invite him. And I strongly believe that any other PEC which can invite him as the two have already done, he would attend to such invitations. So tribe has got nothing to do with his address.
Listening to this man is refreshing, there is actual intellectual capacity. the problem is that these are just words. I’m glad he is back and contributing to admitting there is a problem but it’s too little too late. The ANC has lost its way and proof was that 3 years into power they recognised there was a problem but they did not act. 27 years later the problem still exists and there is still no action all at the expense of South Africans who are held hostage by what was once a glorious movement. I don’t think the ANC can be renewed, to be renewed it needs to prune and so far it has time and time again shown it is indecisive and lacks execution of its own decisions.
The man I would have love to be my father, my role model, a true principled African...we will never see or know a leader like him ...The ANC really scored an own goal when they prematurely removed him from Leadership...is there any other leader like him? No one is perfect but he is a much better leader than the rest South Africa has ever known
@@GameboyAdvanceSP_786Mbeki is pointing to the ingredients required for the so called organizational renewal, e.g. quality membership and branch structures, putting people and service first over expediency, discipline amongst leadership, accountability, etc. What's your problem with that?
Lobaba is still biased, he was right when he was bitter after losing votes to someone he had dismissed and when attempt for a 3rd term failed. If he respects that NEC he must first comment about money being used to buy votes from Nesrec. He must retire in peace and let Zuma attend his cases that they fabricated
@Madoda Zungu hate him or love him but former president Mbeki's presidential legacy will always be bigger and better than Zuma's legacy. Zuma will always be known as the most corrupt President in SA and that will never change🤷🏾♂️
@@madodazungu857 Its typical and very expected for a zulu tribalist like you to relentlessly support zulu leaders even when they do wrong and bring the country to its knees. Fact is, during Mbeki's tenure, SA's economy, service delivery and morality was best. During Zuma's tenure, capture of government, corruption and lawlessness thrived. No amount of tribalism can erase those facts.
@@maseratifittipaldi which party is ahead according to you? A great leader is one that acknowledges his organisation's mistakes and where we went wrong. I dont expect you to understand because all you care about is getting back into power.
@@thamilawrence8468 Me? "Back into power" ?! What are you smoking, Thami? One of the many traits of a great leader is to identify problems at an early stage and to rectify them. Even to prevent them from actually happening. A great leader is not one who gets roped in shortly before an election to try to save his organization through false "morality".
No offence, why should we do that? Is it your opinion that corruption started after his presidency? The former president, allowed corruption to happen under his leadership. I see he holds a lot of lectures but i don't understand why as if he has some solutions yet he had 8 years in office while the people were ripped off their God given right to have food, shelter and all essentials. No disrespect to him but he failed also.
You can't call a R20 billion surplus as a good legacy when this was done at the expense of poor higher education investment, poor border protection controls and refusal of his excellency to safe Aids infected people. Amongst those who died, my family lost 2 lives that could have been saved had an aloof economist decided not to play God. This man is a good poet and scholar like Obama. But their legacies are disastrous, any great leader's ideas should live beyond their term of office.
Mbeki created the biggest black diamonds in his life time of presidency during his tenure. This was in the form of making sure most unemployed graduates were given an opportunity to work for both public and private sector with merits with no nepotism involved or being judged on your surname when applying for a job or having to return a favor by sleeping with someone or putting a brown envelope under the table to get a job. The problem with ruling party is playing with the hearts of the poor and the marginalised at the expense of the black middle and upper middle class forgetting that any economic power and development of any state lies in the hands of middle and upper middle class. Instead all you hear when ANC is speaking is poor blaah-blaah etc what is in for middle & upper middle class who have sacrificed and work so hard to be where they are? This are the missing vote of confidence unfortunately none of opposition parties makes any positive impression for them either...
Those who lied about that n that about Former President Mbeki, really Destroyed SA PERMANENTLY, Look now SA has Literally Drowned in ALL EVIL, Fear of THE UNKNOWN;;IGNORANCE;ARROGANCE;WRESTLING for Positions of Authority to LOOT, Self-Enrichment etc, We are in that MESS NOW.
The comparison of Mbeki and Zuma is like day and night. With Mbeki you can sit down and listen to an intelligent man talking and have a mature discussion where you agree or disagree with respect. This type of talk is Allien to the kinds of Zuma and Magashule.
@@esahm373 Potholes is fine Boet we know other countries also got potholes which they fix maybe yearly, but in SA the potholes become crater, s as big as a car, and it's like that for years and never get fix because the money that's supposed to go toward maintenance get stolen or the contractors that must fixed the potholes get paid without the job being done. So our friend is 100%right potholes is a start of a country going down, into the potholes.
@@karelgericke3858 Let's agree on this: it's not potholes that indicate the downfall of a nation, but it's a clear sign of serious maladministration if potholes never get fixed and grow to become craters! Sorry for being rigid, but we need more accurate style of thinking in South Africa and less superficial gibberish that lacks depth and clear analysis.
I like President Mbeki but sorry the ANC doesn’t have my support. This speech doesn’t rid the party of it’s incapacitation to run a country. It’s only highlighting how much they’ve messed up.
It will without a doubt survive . It will take a while for its historical moral legitimacy to get completely eroded. The state of its survival is what really matters. Perhaps it is in the best interest of both South Africa and even the ANC for the party to sit in the opposition benches for 10yrs. That will humble it and make it realize that power is NEVER to be taken for granted. Some will argue though :Which of the current opposition parties is ready to take over at the centre ???
He presided over and is a Proponent of a pre Mature Pan African Parliament/which we do not need ,and were never Consulted about this FANTASY!! we have SADC and AU that s Enough
Only FAIR AND JUST structures can solve problems. ONLY fair and just structures are effective for long time. If I was a ANC veteran I will start by evaluating our structures before I mention any name. As long as structures are like "'this'' I expect accusations and counter accusations .
The renewal of the anc also needs to look into members treating the anc and our country as if it owes them... Going as far as trying to get their wives and son's to lead the party and country, this must end!!
Very good talker. Excellent. Could listen to him for hours.... But what does the ANC do for the poor? Billions gone. We could have uplifted these people !!!! Shame on the ANC. Does not have leaders with back-bone.....
Stop enriching yourselves and look after your poor voters who believed in you for 27yrs but still live in shacks... Keep your promises... They suffer!!!
My opinion kumele kuphele indaba yokuthatha izinqumo yi ANC kuphela they must include 4 parties who got more vote must be Equally n take care of South Africa not only one part because they failed South Africa
I really miss President Mbeki. Everything pretty much went downhill in 2009 when he was replaced. We wish for a government that will walk the walk and not just talk the talk. How many individuals has seen jail time since all the corruption of various individuals (Still in power by the way) have been exposed by the Zondo-Commission? ZERO..... At least "Mr. Ten Percent" is facing criminal charges. Weather he will see any jail time however remains to be seen....
Unfortunately we need the ANC to collapse. The people will not change, they will not self correct. The corruption runs in all ranks, all departments, all SOE’S. If we allow ANC to continue, South African will become like Nigeria, nothing works without corruption and we can’t have that.
I support really will become Nigeria n worrying factor we most my Black people we don't have Critical Skills that would make us employable in other countries or Create our businesses in Foreign Countries, that's the difference between Black South Africans to other Africans.
The intellectual capacity in this man Zuma cannot come near it. Zuma like it or not was best fit to be a village chief and he would have excelled very well and not as a president. That' was a task to big for him and the disaster is there for all to see
I disagree Mr. Mbeki Sir. The ANC is too comfortable and is taking its supporters and this nation for granted. They need to feel the consequences doing so by losing. Maybe that will actually motivate to reevaluate how they govern and take affirmative action against corruption. So I'm #Don'tVoteANC
I partly support your point, the Challenge is that ANC LED GVT has caused a lot of damage that a New Elected Party Committed to Restore Good Governance would most possibly Fail n Ousted out, because a New Party would be honest no Chance to Loot, but to provide Services to the people, n not offer Free Monies to the Disadvantaged but to create Employment etc, then ToyiToyis l destroy everything n ANC comes in again.
Zizi , Zizi, Dlamini, Bring it back , we shall come back and re- join it in the Eastern Cape. Mayibuye! Mayibuye! We are ready to rejoin. Siyabulela Mhlekazi, ungasilahli , singabantwana bakho. Eastern Cape give Mbeki power to regenerate ANC. Beneficiaries cannot do it.
The the Presidency that he did not campaign for took away the loadshedding extended the life expectancy of the people with chronic diseases, it extended the number of student accessing universities, it expedited the country's budden of debt, visa versa the administration that he campaigned for brought back the loadshedding, it has taken away a billion from NSFAS funding reducing the number of students accessing universities, it has brought us back to 500b plus more debt in its early years of administrative authority. what we should expect from this administration (that he campaigned for) from now on?
I love this man with all my heart. But whistle blowing in the south African community has been known to have serious problems to the point of death. During the struggle era impimpi was an enemy of the struggle and we seem to have carried this narrative even post apartheid
It is very sad that Mbeki is taking them through a series of mistakes since 1997 but they are too comfortable continuing in that fashion because it suites their pockets.
Things have turn sour for the ruling part ever since Musholozi took over the reigns, ANC is like a headless chicken that doesn't knw wich direction to take , and Mbeki is got last laugh 🤣🤣
not for long, open your eyes, nobody in the anc goes to jail, they cover eatch other, fotuneitly human nature sorts itself out, takers in life dont servive, admitting that your wrong and still in charge of billiions its a joke, your a joke in the eyes of the world, and take responsability and stop blameing the past, nobody in the past made u a skelm today
Thabo can't believe that you're still in the anc and wasting your time in addressing them, you must be hard up to be associated with alot of corrupt gangsters in the anc.
@@karelgericke3858 You know at the moment there is no better party than the ANC look at the DA people thought that it will be an alternative to the ANC just to squander that opportunity at the last moments with their racist attitude!As for the EFF the same mindset of hating whites like the Freedom Front Plus!
Such a pleasure to listen to a real politician, a trusted leader, a servant of the people and an agent for change. It's been too long since such a voice was heard in the land, indeed on the continent.
he got the wrong briefing though, ""GO TO EASTERN CAPE TARGET TRADITIONAL LEADERS AND THE CHURCH PEOPLE" bcos anc believes these are the only left groups with seemingly true following, and they are tribalistic so they will fall for anc if it shows a historical transkei eastern cape face, give me one person who can convince south africa about anc..i mean south africans are exhausted, frican national congress is misusing Thabo Mbeki, and he fell for it? or ? niyasibhidisa yhaz.
i feel like screaming shem
@Tendai Kamba Heya munotomubhiga mubhulazi uyu regai henyu muone pfubvu iya yotanga futi
President Mbeki was the best❤🙏🙏..love and respect Him❤🙏🙏🌻🌻
What I love about him is that he seems to seriously focus on the ANC and their wrong doings over the years, not blame anybody else or make excuses...which is what the ANC do. Respect!
He is a towering figure in the history of the ANC.A man of character who always life with his deeds,words and principles.He is a character himself bc's characters like alphabet,numbers ,statues doesn't change whether in Asia ,at night,day, the number 1 is always 1,A is always a .Statues remain statues no matter the circumstances around them .My president is not a cameleon.Thabo you are not blaming other people you reflecting about the grave mistakes the ANC has made and we are waiting for the renewal of this mighty organisation.Together let us do more .Ditau tsa hloka seboka di Sia ke Nare e hlotsa.
Thabo Mbeki is truly the epitome of Anc values par excellence
My president ❤ I have the out most RESPECT for this man...
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You have to love this man. No one is perfect but he is an exemplary leader.
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Isn't that what we thought about Cyril when he took over in 2018, exemplary or not, he played a role in the death of so many South Africans during the HIV AND AIDS PANDEMIC because of an arms deal, what is being done to Zuma today, Zuma did to Mbeki, the same will be done to Ramaphosa, they are all just jokes.
You must do your homework Benjamin;You DON'T know Thabo.He is benefiting from GEMS MEDICAL AID which he introduced with all his CROOKS
'' One of the negative features that has emerged, is the emergence of careerism within our ranks, many amongst our members, see their membership of the ANC as means to advance their personal ambitions, to attain power and access to resources for their own individual gratification'' Very True
True indeed
...and nobody knew this? Do we only see or hear or think when some esteemed "leader" says something? Of course not. Many people in S.A. know exactly what the ANC is doing.
On point.🤞🏽
I love this Man (Honorable Thabo Mbeki)... 🔥👌✊
The last intelligent, honest, strong and trustworthy elected president we had. Thereafter disaster.
Mbeki is a factional tribalist, why only speak in the Eastern Cape when he never visited other provincial conferences.
@@caughtontape5829 now the excuse is not apartheid but tribalism. The fact that you think like this you are no better than the person you are accusing. I was born and grew up in KZN but no longer live there and guess you are from there. KZN is where the arch tribalists live.
As a fully grown man I realised that you can disagree with your Idol without losing the love for aspects you agree with him on. Triabalism is a Big factor in South Africa and the first of many steps against it is, acknowledgement. And Mbeki as a wise old man should have known better than to make reckless factional remarks in a tribalistic ANC province.
Other than political correctness and kumbaya, there is no evidence to contradict my assertion of tribalism within the ANC Eastern Cape. You can look at the top 6, PEC no tribal mix as if we are in Bantustans in 2021.
@@caughtontape5829 You may be mistaken there as President Mbeki first made appearance in ANC gatherings last year in KwaZulu Natal at the invitation of the KZN ANC PEC, the EC ANC is the second to invite him. And I strongly believe that any other PEC which can invite him as the two have already done, he would attend to such invitations. So tribe has got nothing to do with his address.
cope president
Listening to this man is refreshing, there is actual intellectual capacity. the problem is that these are just words. I’m glad he is back and contributing to admitting there is a problem but it’s too little too late. The ANC has lost its way and proof was that 3 years into power they recognised there was a problem but they did not act. 27 years later the problem still exists and there is still no action all at the expense of South Africans who are held hostage by what was once a glorious movement. I don’t think the ANC can be renewed, to be renewed it needs to prune and so far it has time and time again shown it is indecisive and lacks execution of its own decisions.
The man I would have love to be my father, my role model, a true principled African...we will never see or know a leader like him ...The ANC really scored an own goal when they prematurely removed him from Leadership...is there any other leader like him? No one is perfect but he is a much better leader than the rest South Africa has ever known
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Agreed. The corrupt leaders removed him, so sad the country is on its knees right now.
The only form president who had time for the youth
Call a spade a spade Thabo . Corruption is a punishable crime , not a mistake .
The first element of a crime is intention (men's rea)
Excuse aftr excuse he is cunvucin
I listened to the whole lecture he never spoke about imaginary enemies,his follow comrades being spies just an honest assessment of the ANC
Very true, I think there's only been one leader of the ANC who worked to divide the ANC and points fingers at his own comrades.
Thabo Mbeki embodies the perfect example of the role of a former president within an evolving organization. This is exemplary.
@@GameboyAdvanceSP_786Mbeki is pointing to the ingredients required for the so called organizational renewal, e.g. quality membership and branch structures, putting people and service first over expediency, discipline amongst leadership, accountability, etc. What's your problem with that?
Lobaba is still biased, he was right when he was bitter after losing votes to someone he had dismissed and when attempt for a 3rd term failed. If he respects that NEC he must first comment about money being used to buy votes from Nesrec. He must retire in peace and let Zuma attend his cases that they fabricated
@Madoda Zungu hate him or love him but former president Mbeki's presidential legacy will always be bigger and better than Zuma's legacy. Zuma will always be known as the most corrupt President in SA and that will never change🤷🏾♂️
You mean by you and your prejudge mental buddies... Why engabopheki pho
@@madodazungu857 Its typical and very expected for a zulu tribalist like you to relentlessly support zulu leaders even when they do wrong and bring the country to its knees. Fact is, during Mbeki's tenure, SA's economy, service delivery and morality was best. During Zuma's tenure, capture of government, corruption and lawlessness thrived. No amount of tribalism can erase those facts.
When Thabo Mbeki was kicked out, Nelson Mandela's party crashed. A new party is needed with an educated leader to bring us back to law and order.
A prominent leader, a rare caliber.
This man was ahead of our time .
Is there anything he said that you yourself did not know? No - the ANC is just so far behind the times.
@@maseratifittipaldi which party is ahead according to you? A great leader is one that acknowledges his organisation's mistakes and where we went wrong. I dont expect you to understand because all you care about is getting back into power.
Thats why his wife is a billionare
@@thamilawrence8468 Me? "Back into power" ?! What are you smoking, Thami? One of the many traits of a great leader is to identify problems at an early stage and to rectify them. Even to prevent them from actually happening. A great leader is not one who gets roped in shortly before an election to try to save his organization through false "morality".
@@thamilawrence8468 wow I surprised you are this brilliant
Zizi is pointing critically to the challenges of ANC, it's up to the current leaders and members to raise to the occasion and seize the moment.
We just need to make a decision as a country and vote this guy back into the presidency - Directly!!!
No offence, why should we do that? Is it your opinion that corruption started after his presidency? The former president, allowed corruption to happen under his leadership. I see he holds a lot of lectures but i don't understand why as if he has some solutions yet he had 8 years in office while the people were ripped off their God given right to have food, shelter and all essentials. No disrespect to him but he failed also.
You are very brainwashed shame
@@spmavimbela7094 What facts do you have to back that?
We would have been far as Country 😭. Aha! My president Mr Thabo Mbeki you taught us so many things in life. History recorded
Many would be dead, and without ARVs regarding HiV And Aids since this bafoon was against it
The guy literally thought beetroot would fight HIV and aids, that doesn't sound smart by any stretch of the imagination.
The true bar of a leader is results.. He had the economy 20 billion in suplus.. From then on nothing I don't care who u love results matter
You can't call a R20 billion surplus as a good legacy when this was done at the expense of poor higher education investment, poor border protection controls and refusal of his excellency to safe Aids infected people. Amongst those who died, my family lost 2 lives that could have been saved had an aloof economist decided not to play God.
This man is a good poet and scholar like Obama. But their legacies are disastrous, any great leader's ideas should live beyond their term of office.
@@caughtontape5829 very true, this guy was only serving the rich and the poor were left hanging
Mbeki created the biggest black diamonds in his life time of presidency during his tenure. This was in the form of making sure most unemployed graduates were given an opportunity to work for both public and private sector with merits with no nepotism involved or being judged on your surname when applying for a job or having to return a favor by sleeping with someone or putting a brown envelope under the table to get a job. The problem with ruling party is playing with the hearts of the poor and the marginalised at the expense of the black middle and upper middle class forgetting that any economic power and development of any state lies in the hands of middle and upper middle class. Instead all you hear when ANC is speaking is poor blaah-blaah etc what is in for middle & upper middle class who have sacrificed and work so hard to be where they are? This are the missing vote of confidence unfortunately none of opposition parties makes any positive impression for them either...
Those who lied about that n that about Former President Mbeki, really Destroyed SA PERMANENTLY, Look now SA has Literally Drowned in ALL EVIL, Fear of THE UNKNOWN;;IGNORANCE;ARROGANCE;WRESTLING for Positions of Authority to LOOT, Self-Enrichment etc, We are in that MESS NOW.
The comparison of Mbeki and Zuma is like day and night. With Mbeki you can sit down and listen to an intelligent man talking and have a mature discussion where you agree or disagree with respect. This type of talk is Allien to the kinds of Zuma and Magashule.
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All talk and no action men.
ANC needs to be re restractured
Listening TM is always refreshing. Whenever you listen the same speech or whatever one may call it, you always get something new.
Now that is a Statesman. Wow. I love President Mbeki
yeah.. statesman indeed.
There is a decline of trust in the leadership of ANC
i respect you Mr President always your speech makes sense and from an matured leader like you
Once a country has potholes on the roads, it's basically at its end. Lessons from Rome
What a exelent comment so true.
Are you aware that even highly developed countries like Germany and Norway have roads with potholes? Where do you take this nonsense from anyway?
@@esahm373 Potholes is fine Boet we know other countries also got potholes which they fix maybe yearly, but in SA the potholes become crater, s as big as a car, and it's like that for years and never get fix because the money that's supposed to go toward maintenance get stolen or the contractors that must fixed the potholes get paid without the job being done. So our friend is 100%right potholes is a start of a country going down, into the potholes.
@@karelgericke3858 Let's agree on this: it's not potholes that indicate the downfall of a nation, but it's a clear sign of serious maladministration if potholes never get fixed and grow to become craters! Sorry for being rigid, but we need more accurate style of thinking in South Africa and less superficial gibberish that lacks depth and clear analysis.
@@esahm373 You're 100 %correct.
Unquestionable leadership 👏
Former President still like, starting his 📖 speech, while arranging other pages 🤣
Zizi is spot on,we don't have a good story to tell, let's move this journey towards renewal of the organisation
... and start a new circle, which will end up exactly the same - or worse - than the previous one.
ANC 🖤💚💛
@Thanduxolo Try see through a different lens. The video is doing exactly what’s it’s meant to do. All you do is falling for their tricks again.
@@ttsomele Arrogance Nepotism Corruption 🦨🐸🤑
I love anc and thats why i believe we have to vote them out so that they can go rebuild themselves away from government
Oh Yes for now ANC Needs to go n plan Renewal at least for 50yrs before coming back again.
ANC don't deserve to be head of state
AnC must go
The branch cadres of the ANC are the problem. The ANC needs a better quality of cadre.
Best president we have ever had in growing our country
How So?
This was a "reclaiming session" authority has been emphasized
Enkosi Mr President, we love you.
OUR GOOD FORMER PRESIDENT VIVA TATA STILL LOVE
I know very well that Mbeki was never a saint. However I will always consider him.
One of the great African leaders.
I like President Mbeki but sorry the ANC doesn’t have my support. This speech doesn’t rid the party of it’s incapacitation to run a country. It’s only highlighting how much they’ve messed up.
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Time will tell Mr. Mbeki, time will tell if your ANC will survive.......⚰️
Anc you time is up your own supporters turns again you just remember you started it.
It will without a doubt survive . It will take a while for its historical moral legitimacy to get completely eroded. The state of its survival is what really matters. Perhaps it is in the best interest of both South Africa and even the ANC for the party to sit in the opposition benches for 10yrs. That will humble it and make it realize that power is NEVER to be taken for granted. Some will argue though :Which of the current opposition parties is ready to take over at the centre ???
My Leader !!!
Thank you Zizi for this😊
I miss this man. I hear he drafted his own speech the time a santse e le president
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ANC is depleted Mr Mbeki. The level of corruption is rooted from local to national government
He presided over and is a Proponent of a pre Mature Pan African Parliament/which we do not need ,and were never Consulted about this FANTASY!! we have SADC and AU that s Enough
THANK U
By the way, you never finished your term. You owe the people of SA a lot. Now SA is sold to other nations.
He is not ageing well at all. He has changed so much. I still cant believe this is Mbeki. 👀👀👀👀
bring mbeki back as he was the best so far
True says
The ANC threw Mbeki out like a dog to make way for the Guptas, now they praise him? 😂
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exactly, which is why i wonder what gotten into him that he fell for their tricks when they want Cat Beller
Malema
Only FAIR AND JUST structures can solve problems. ONLY fair and just structures are effective for long time. If I was a ANC veteran I will start by evaluating our structures before I mention any name. As long as structures are like "'this'' I expect accusations and counter accusations .
The renewal of the anc also needs to look into members treating the anc and our country as if it owes them... Going as far as trying to get their wives and son's to lead the party and country, this must end!!
This is what Zuma is trying if I am not wrong
Scholar 🙏🏾, President my President.
Iyoh😟, This can't be Thabo Mbeki..
.. he's really Oold
Very good talker. Excellent. Could listen to him for hours.... But what does the ANC do for the poor? Billions gone. We could have uplifted these people !!!! Shame on the ANC. Does not have leaders with back-bone.....
Stop enriching yourselves and look after your poor voters who believed in you for 27yrs but still live in shacks... Keep your promises... They suffer!!!
Yes
My opinion kumele kuphele indaba yokuthatha izinqumo yi ANC kuphela they must include 4 parties who got more vote must be Equally n take care of South Africa not only one part because they failed South Africa
Too late for your stories ANC. Fix yourself outside government
Pls cdes let us be truthfull God know
I really miss President Mbeki. Everything pretty much went downhill in 2009 when he was replaced. We wish for a government that will walk the walk and not just talk the talk. How many individuals has seen jail time since all the corruption of various individuals (Still in power by the way) have been exposed by the Zondo-Commission? ZERO..... At least "Mr. Ten Percent" is facing criminal charges. Weather he will see any jail time however remains to be seen....
Injalo Zizi viva
Yes only Mark Shope and Jack Simmons are the ones who warned us about careerist not Mandela at the time Mandela was in prison
Unfortunately we need the ANC to collapse. The people will not change, they will not self correct. The corruption runs in all ranks, all departments, all SOE’S. If we allow ANC to continue, South African will become like Nigeria, nothing works without corruption and we can’t have that.
I support really will become Nigeria n worrying factor we most my Black people we don't have Critical Skills that would make us employable in other countries or Create our businesses in Foreign Countries, that's the difference between Black South Africans to other Africans.
Respact 🙏intelligence 🙏good speaking 👌🤲
Nice speech
"I don't want you to entertain the idea of making this boy (Thabo Mbeki) a president, because his conduct and behaviour is worrisome" ~ Govan Mbeki
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The intellectual capacity in this man Zuma cannot come near it. Zuma like it or not was best fit to be a village chief and he would have excelled very well and not as a president. That' was a task to big for him and the disaster is there for all to see
Is like to start something new policy is good practice make perfect even is heavy to start to leave the past see how we can we go through
Hahaaa! Ayashukuma amathambo e Rivonia Trialists, the real ANC veterans.
"Openly defying the decisions of the ANC and taking it to court. What is that?" 🤔
So this guy is back from holiday
Great mind. Intelligence. Superior logic.
Siyabonga mongameli.
Who appointed Mahashula a big mistake dont even deserve to be a class monitor shame ANC
Along with his fantastic view on HIV and aids
ANCC is tired of resource control n ruling jst step aside cz u are all guilty as charged !
I disagree Mr. Mbeki Sir. The ANC is too comfortable and is taking its supporters and this nation for granted. They need to feel the consequences doing so by losing. Maybe that will actually motivate to reevaluate how they govern and take affirmative action against corruption. So I'm #Don'tVoteANC
I partly support your point, the Challenge is that ANC LED GVT has caused a lot of damage that a New Elected Party Committed to Restore Good Governance would most possibly Fail n Ousted out, because a New Party would be honest no Chance to Loot, but to provide Services to the people, n not offer Free Monies to the Disadvantaged but to create Employment etc, then ToyiToyis l destroy everything n ANC comes in again.
Viva
Zizi , Zizi, Dlamini, Bring it back , we shall come back and re- join it in the Eastern Cape. Mayibuye! Mayibuye! We are ready to rejoin. Siyabulela Mhlekazi, ungasilahli , singabantwana bakho. Eastern Cape give Mbeki power to regenerate ANC. Beneficiaries cannot do it.
Oh Yes, but the 'COLLECTIVE' won't Allow that, they are collected towards....
What is happening now ?
The the Presidency that he did not campaign for took away the loadshedding extended the life expectancy of the people with chronic diseases, it extended the number of student accessing universities, it expedited the country's budden of debt, visa versa the administration that he campaigned for brought back the loadshedding, it has taken away a billion from NSFAS funding reducing the number of students accessing universities, it has brought us back to 500b plus more debt in its early years of administrative authority. what we should expect from this administration (that he campaigned for) from now on?
It's a high time for eastern cape ppl not to be captured by other province's.. To stand for our own.. Mbeki is our leader at the end of the Dae..
He criticised leadership is public that's not ANC that is factional. Let me laugh. He has not healed from polokwane
I love this man with all my heart. But whistle blowing in the south African community has been known to have serious problems to the point of death. During the struggle era impimpi was an enemy of the struggle and we seem to have carried this narrative even post apartheid
Fix your mistakes and put the right people in leadership not gangsters who loot our resurces
It is very sad that Mbeki is taking them through a series of mistakes since 1997 but they are too comfortable continuing in that fashion because it suites their pockets.
Things have turn sour for the ruling part ever since Musholozi took over the reigns, ANC is like a headless chicken that doesn't knw wich direction to take , and Mbeki is got last laugh 🤣🤣
A few irrelevant speeches are not the last laugh by any means. Let the polls speak.
Take your sit back Mbeki
Imagine if what is being said described umuthi would you take it and hope to get cured?
#PresidentLionOfAfrikaMbeki
Zuma your thoughts please?
in practice a what actually happens not the same or different from what is supposed to happen
ANC are wayyyyy past their expiry date! 😝🤮
anc still has the monopoly!!!!! bbut
not for long, open your eyes, nobody in the anc goes to jail, they cover eatch other, fotuneitly human nature sorts itself out, takers in life dont servive, admitting that your wrong and still in charge of billiions its a joke, your a joke in the eyes of the world, and take responsability and stop blameing the past, nobody in the past made u a skelm today
Who is the 10% that is being referred by the president?
we are in this mess bcos of this man
Zuma made it worse
ANC is like running horse with no jokey.
You had over 20 years but did nothing. What make you think that the ANC can get rid of corruption and put things right now.
Izwi labadala alidliwanja !!!!!
Thabo can't believe that you're still in the anc and wasting your time in addressing them, you must be hard up to be associated with alot of corrupt gangsters in the anc.
He is not wasting time!He is helping as an elder to cleanse the ANC!
@@josiahmanganyi5359 Sorry for my cruel comment I apologize you are right. Just hope he succeed, because the anc need a lot of of cleansing.
@@karelgericke3858 You know at the moment there is no better party than the ANC look at the DA people thought that it will be an alternative to the ANC just to squander that opportunity at the last moments with their racist attitude!As for the EFF the same mindset of hating whites like the Freedom Front Plus!
I think Mbeki join the anc not individuals
He is part of a faction
we are sorry we stole our peopls money!!!! please forgive us and let us live in pease, my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They should Vote out the whole ANC Leaders out they destroying beautifull continent in Afrika 😵😵😵😵😵😵
Mbeki is talking about the past we want the future. The nation
want to know how the devil has developed into the brain of the ANC.