I've watched now a lot of your videos. Thank you again for the effort and time to provide all the information. I really do like your way of approaching things. Subtle but still makes a significant difference that sounds good.
In 2023 AND now in 2024, the chain has definitely been updated. To be clear: it isn't the same on every song anyway. BUT I can breakdown a recent song for you soon ;)
@@5piece welcome sir, to speak the truth I learnt some of these tips in a Paid Course of a youtuber and I stopped enrolling them now coz you are giving away all your pro tips for FREE. Thanks and GOOD LUCK, we want more!!
Question. I'm using Studio One to do all of my production. The problem that I'm running into is that no matter what I do, it seems that all of my mixes come out sounding super harsh on the top end. And I have no clue why that's happening
Do they sound harsh even while working on them in the DAW? Or is this only happening on your bounced files? In other words, is there a disconnect from how it sounds in DAW vs. The final bounce down?
@@5piece The final bounce... Everything is super sibilant. It's to the point where I have to put a low pass filter on everything just to make it halfway manageable. And I have to do the same low pass on the Master
would you suggest not mastering a song in the same session as the mix? what if you just made a new aux track in the mix session and put that chain feeding into the master fader?
That second option you said is what I GENERALLY do, especially if I'm mixing a single. However, if I'm doing an album, then I may do my mastering within the single song session, but render out a mixed not mastered version, then re-master it all separately in a fresh, mastering only session. That way I have all of the other songs and mastering chains there, in context, and can make more calculated and educated choices with processing. It may also be better to do it separately for processing since a mix session can have tons of plugins, while a mastering session likely won't in comparison. Both are viable for sure, just will depend on if you need context or not. Hope this makes sense, and helps!
brother thank you so much for the video the only notice that i have is that ur voice is a little bit too loud 😂😂😂😂 thats the only thing i can tell and thank you again 🙏🙏wld love to know more about saturation in master if u can make a video on it it wld be perfect
Thanks for this and noted for future videos. I’d rather be too loud than too quiet but totally understand your sentiment here. You should notice my more recent videos are balanced better between the voice over and the music 🤙🏼
yoo thank you for your video! 🙏 I faced the following problem when doing corrective EQ: It's about EQing low end with a highpassfilter. I usually use ProQ3 for this. So everybody says it is good to cut a bit of the sub freqeuncies on the 808 or Kick for example to get some headroom or space for other instruments or just to control the sub freqeuncies and make them tight. But when you cut e.g. at 30 hz with a 24/db the signal is like 1 or 2 db louder then before. So I lose headroom in the end. I know that one can also do it in linear phase mode but this will cause other problems. Why are all pro mixing engineers still doing this? Could you explain what the benefits of cutting sub frequencies is?
For sure, here and now in 2024, I'm also more mindful of this and am not always filtering low end (on a master) anymore like I once was. I still think it can be a valid move depending, and on this song in particular, the cut created a certain effect (the 808 in particular rattles a certain way with the filter that it doesn't without). The general logic is, you apply the filter to remove unnecessary low-end frequencies, and as a bonus, you can potentially create more headroom. Now, sometimes, headroom is not created and instead your EQ will clip/overload. This is because that cut shifts the phase resulting in different frequencies within the signal being delayed by different amounts. When a filter is applied, the phase relationship between different frequency components of the signal can change, leading to clipping. Obviously, this is NOT good and something we want to avoid - which is why I no longer do this type of move without being very careful and calculated. As a tip, if you are clipping after applying a filter, you can simply reduce the gain or volume of the plugin you are using to execute the move. So for example with the FabFilter ProQ3, you can go into the output and reduce it by whatever amount you are now clipping by, and it should technically mitigate the clipping problem. The phase shift problem is another conversation. Hope this helps!
@@5piece thanks for your answer man. I think you are right that it can be a valid move to shape the sound. But i noticed when using highpass filtering on individual bassheavy elements (in the sub region) in the mix, you always lose headroom and do not gain headroom (in the sense of dB). If someone can proove me wrong i would be grateful :D
Can the same mastering chain be used in the box and when we export a wav song without any mastering plugins on the output channel, so we re-import it into Daw and do the mastering?
Yup! Absolutely. For a single I tend to master in the session if I can for efficiency but with an album I’ll create a separate session of all the final mixes where I apply mastering only to each one. Hope this helps!
@@5piece yes tnx! I like to do mastering right away in the mix box but I have a weak processor so when I put all the plugins in the processor goes to 100% so I am forced to do the mastering separately
Who cares what the chain looks like bro as long as the final result sounds good 💯
Preach! 🙌🏼 super important to mix with your ears and not your eyes, that’s 100%
The professor...Passing on free knowledge!!! Thak you bro!!!
Thank YOU my friend for the continued support! I appreciate you G 👊🏼
I've watched now a lot of your videos. Thank you again for the effort and time to provide all the information. I really do like your way of approaching things. Subtle but still makes a significant difference that sounds good.
You nailed it Louie! All the small subtle moves add up 😉 I appreciate the kind words and you for watching ! 🙏🏼
Your explanation of m/s plugins changed my life im officially a professional mixer now. Thank you...
love your detailed breakdowns ty
Anytime! Glad you like 'em - more coming in the near future
JUST WHAT I NEEEEEDED! 🙏
Glad to hear it!!! Hope it helped
appreciate the time stamps bro
I got you! Super necessary for a video this long 😅 glad it helped 👍🏻
Thank you for this video man
Great video bro! Have you updated your mastering chain in 2023 since then? you should make an updated video!
In 2023 AND now in 2024, the chain has definitely been updated. To be clear: it isn't the same on every song anyway. BUT I can breakdown a recent song for you soon ;)
Excellent!
I appreciate you Mark!!
do you have the mixing process?
Thanks so much man !
Anytime! 🙌🏼
best
Thank you my guy!! 🏆🏆🏆
@@5piece welcome sir, to speak the truth I learnt some of these tips in a Paid Course of a youtuber and I stopped enrolling them now coz you are giving away all your pro tips for FREE. Thanks and GOOD LUCK, we want more!!
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Thank you for watching Chris! 🙌🏼
Lol Why he said "Yes I'm using the Legacy one, don't rub it in". What's wrong with PultecPro from UAD?
Nothing at all, I mean I’m using it right? I just know there’s a newer version that some folks may prefer and / or ask about if I don’t mention it
Question. I'm using Studio One to do all of my production. The problem that I'm running into is that no matter what I do, it seems that all of my mixes come out sounding super harsh on the top end. And I have no clue why that's happening
Do they sound harsh even while working on them in the DAW? Or is this only happening on your bounced files?
In other words, is there a disconnect from how it sounds in DAW vs. The final bounce down?
@@5piece The final bounce... Everything is super sibilant. It's to the point where I have to put a low pass filter on everything just to make it halfway manageable. And I have to do the same low pass on the Master
@@jthelovecoach1 what sample rate and bit depth are you exporting at ?
@@prod_carl 48k 32 bit float
bop
thank you
You’re welcome! 🙌🏼
top guy thank you
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would you suggest not mastering a song in the same session as the mix? what if you just made a new aux track in the mix session and put that chain feeding into the master fader?
That second option you said is what I GENERALLY do, especially if I'm mixing a single.
However, if I'm doing an album, then I may do my mastering within the single song session, but render out a mixed not mastered version, then re-master it all separately in a fresh, mastering only session. That way I have all of the other songs and mastering chains there, in context, and can make more calculated and educated choices with processing.
It may also be better to do it separately for processing since a mix session can have tons of plugins, while a mastering session likely won't in comparison.
Both are viable for sure, just will depend on if you need context or not. Hope this makes sense, and helps!
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brother thank you so much for the video the only notice that i have is that ur voice is a little bit too loud 😂😂😂😂 thats the only thing i can tell
and thank you again 🙏🙏wld love to know more about saturation in master if u can make a video on it it wld be perfect
Thanks for this and noted for future videos. I’d rather be too loud than too quiet but totally understand your sentiment here. You should notice my more recent videos are balanced better between the voice over and the music 🤙🏼
😮💨💨 man
learned alot.......
Happy to help 👊🏼
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yoo thank you for your video! 🙏
I faced the following problem when doing corrective EQ: It's about EQing low end with a highpassfilter. I usually use ProQ3 for this. So everybody says it is good to cut a bit of the sub freqeuncies on the 808 or Kick for example to get some headroom or space for other instruments or just to control the sub freqeuncies and make them tight. But when you cut e.g. at 30 hz with a 24/db the signal is like 1 or 2 db louder then before. So I lose headroom in the end. I know that one can also do it in linear phase mode but this will cause other problems. Why are all pro mixing engineers still doing this? Could you explain what the benefits of cutting sub frequencies is?
For sure, here and now in 2024, I'm also more mindful of this and am not always filtering low end (on a master) anymore like I once was.
I still think it can be a valid move depending, and on this song in particular, the cut created a certain effect (the 808 in particular rattles a certain way with the filter that it doesn't without).
The general logic is, you apply the filter to remove unnecessary low-end frequencies, and as a bonus, you can potentially create more headroom. Now, sometimes, headroom is not created and instead your EQ will clip/overload. This is because that cut shifts the phase resulting in different frequencies within the signal being delayed by different amounts. When a filter is applied, the phase relationship between different frequency components of the signal can change, leading to clipping. Obviously, this is NOT good and something we want to avoid - which is why I no longer do this type of move without being very careful and calculated.
As a tip, if you are clipping after applying a filter, you can simply reduce the gain or volume of the plugin you are using to execute the move. So for example with the FabFilter ProQ3, you can go into the output and reduce it by whatever amount you are now clipping by, and it should technically mitigate the clipping problem. The phase shift problem is another conversation.
Hope this helps!
@@5piece thanks for your answer man. I think you are right that it can be a valid move to shape the sound. But i noticed when using highpass filtering on individual bassheavy elements (in the sub region) in the mix, you always lose headroom and do not gain headroom (in the sense of dB). If someone can proove me wrong i would be grateful :D
Can the same mastering chain be used in the box and when we export a wav song without any mastering plugins on the output channel, so we re-import it into Daw and do the mastering?
Yup! Absolutely. For a single I tend to master in the session if I can for efficiency but with an album I’ll create a separate session of all the final mixes where I apply mastering only to each one. Hope this helps!
@@5piece yes tnx! I like to do mastering right away in the mix box but I have a weak processor so when I put all the plugins in the processor goes to 100% so I am forced to do the mastering separately
How much do you charge for mixing and mastering a song
Request a quote for your song on my website here: 5piecemusic.com/mixing-mastering-quote/
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I'd just use the mute button and be done