The Kongfounding Case of Donkey Kong Jr. - Missing in Action

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  • Welcome to Missing in Action, where we take a look back at game elements that have gone missing! But has Donkey Kong Jr. really disappeared? Or has he simply taken a different form? We investigate to see what really happened to the son of Nintendo's original baddie!
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  • @Rosssarered
    @Rosssarered 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    He was all style, He was all grace. This Kong has now been replaced.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Missed opportunity to not put Lanky in ARMS as DLC.

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kain Tugwell-Fisher Lol that would’ve been amazing. Whenever you hit with the arms, you would hear voice sound effects 'Style' and 'Grace'

    • @supermetroid009
      @supermetroid009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Huuuuawh! DK ...Donkey Kong!

  • @stomboyyuffie8511
    @stomboyyuffie8511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    You forgot that Gorillas age faster than humans. Making it perfectly normal for Donkey Kong Jr. to be Current DK's father.

    • @MrSpeed90000
      @MrSpeed90000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ^

    • @SuperA-64
      @SuperA-64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly! That’s what I’ve been saying

    • @Dualgas
      @Dualgas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Then Baby Donkey Kong is Kranky Kong, which would make sense.
      But if Baby DK is modern DK, that would mean that Kranky Kong was a grandfather for at least 25 years when he fought Jumpman in the original Donkey, which could work, I suppose.

    • @Quinhala11
      @Quinhala11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Current Donkey Kong sppears as a baby together with Baby Mario, and older Mario appears as an adult together with Cranky Kong.
      I like to think Jumpman and Pauline are Luigi, Mario and current Pauline's parents.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HyperToxBox64 And that Modern DK had Jr as his son, not as his father, meaning Cranky would be Jr’s great grandfather.

  • @Glockenspheal
    @Glockenspheal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Zelda Timeline: I'm super complex
    Mario Timeline: Hold my beer.

    • @justatoaster3140
      @justatoaster3140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Zelda devs clearly don’t take there lore seriously fans should stop acting like they do.

    • @deepatlantic2222
      @deepatlantic2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a Toaster
      This.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justatoaster3140 You gotta admit, throwing in a separate timeline on an event that never existed doesn’t make sense.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robbiewalker2831It’s just a game.

  • @stevensanchez2951
    @stevensanchez2951 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Nintendo brought back Pauline
    They should bring back Donkey Kong Jr

  • @pirate_cove_man
    @pirate_cove_man ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Mario movie says that DK is the son of Cranky and not grandson, and honestly I prefer it that way because it implies that DK Junior was just DK as a child, which A) means he is still there right in front of our face and not missing for whatever reason while his dad and son get the spotlight, and B) greatly simplifies the genetic lore, so hopefully they'll keep that consistent from now on

  • @jordanpenza685
    @jordanpenza685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This is literally the most Kong-fusing thing ever...

    • @MlopsFunny
      @MlopsFunny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *sigh* seriously,André?

    • @TismoProductions
      @TismoProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really. I'd say it's taxes.

  • @DoctorMinjinx
    @DoctorMinjinx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    The problem is Nintendo seemed to at one point want to keep Donkey Kong Country as a separate universe. Hence why Cranky, Diddy and the other Country Kongs where never mentioned in Mario games. This also explains why Donkey Kong Junior would appear alongside Donkey Kong. When Donkey Kong appeared in games with Mario, the DKC retcons didn't exist and DK was just the same one from the arcades and had one son, Junior. But, Nintendo seemed to change their mind when the DKC games took off as well as they did and now made DK Country part of Mario's universe. Now Diddy, Cranky and other Kongs appear with Mario. This left Junior in a bad spot as he could not co-exist with Diddy, so given the Diddy was so much more popular, Junior was dropped. It's a similar story to the Koopa Kids of Mario Party, essentially Bowser Jr. Precursors getting replaced by Bowser Jr. Maybe we'll Dk Jr again some day, Pauline proves it's never too late to make an appearance.

    • @sparkleprizm199
      @sparkleprizm199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Caleb TV DK jr also made appearances here and there but he’s been playable more times than her as of yet. In the first time in nearly 40 years she’s going to be playable. So imho she’s the ultimate sign that any character can return.

    • @Super60429
      @Super60429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Modern DK = DK Jr. grown up. This has been common knowledge for a very long time.

    • @chuckarin1365
      @chuckarin1365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Super60429 Cranky being the Original DK (aka DK Sr.) is common knowledge, but DK Jr. being Modern DK is a misconception because according to Rare and Nintendo, Modern DK is Cranky's *Grandson* meaning that DK Jr. is actually the Father of Modern DK making Modern DK known as DK the 3rd.

    • @carmenherrera8812
      @carmenherrera8812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Pyro Flare It's not that people behind Nintendo are jackasses, it's more the fact that "original Donkey Kong being modern Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr being his son" has always been the intended continuity of Nintendo. Rare Ware just screwed up saying that it's actually Cranky Kong who is the original Donkey Kong, which doesn't allign the original canon continuity of Nintendo when it comes to Donkey Kong. Personally, I feel what RareWare did is a mistake. If it weren't for Rare doing this, Donkey Kong Jr could've still be in more Mario and Donkey Kong games. Rare could've kept the continuity that original Donkey Kong is Modern Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr is his son, as it should be.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@carmenherrera8812 A better idea would’ve been to keep the designs from DK’94 for Donkey Kong Country, make Diddy appear alongside him, have DK captured in both DKC2 and DKC3, and when Diddy is captured in DKC3, reintroduce Jr instead of bringing in the ugly Kiddy Kong.

  • @Hives511
    @Hives511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    Donkey kong lore > final fantasy lore

    • @uno-fe5jl
      @uno-fe5jl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Pong lore>>>>Kingdom Hearts lore

    • @tobiaslumi2488
      @tobiaslumi2488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @louismlg everything is better than fnaf lore

    • @ThatTomshow
      @ThatTomshow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      minecraft lore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all lore

    • @Hellopokebowl
      @Hellopokebowl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Prenses Guldane 2 Agreed

    • @SC13_45
      @SC13_45 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hellopokebowl fnaf sucks fucking 10 year old

  • @MrPanda2002
    @MrPanda2002 6 ปีที่แล้ว +713

    We need a DK Historia.

    • @killerqueen5387
      @killerqueen5387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Something like that would expand my...
      knowledge on all things DK.

    • @attackcrash0758
      @attackcrash0758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      More like a Mario-verse Historia.

    • @Spideymations
      @Spideymations 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh DONGLES i see what you did

    • @stupidlsd
      @stupidlsd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Panda ii

    • @isaiah4820
      @isaiah4820 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Check out DK Vine. They've got more information than you could ever want.

  • @TailsClock
    @TailsClock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    DK JR died in a kart racing accident that hit the Nintendo world hard enough for Mario and Cranky to end their feud. The modern DK never got to know his dad for long, and only knows the stories of when Mario was a foe. It seems like a sad story. But thankfully he has a big family that has always been around to look after him in place of his parents. He's had a good life.

    • @jlcdrawings9312
      @jlcdrawings9312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is this canon?

    • @steveluvscows2490
      @steveluvscows2490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It turned out he didn't actually die, and simply went into hiding in the jungle to hone his Mario Karting skills, waiting to make his grand return in Mario Kart Tour.

    • @aracelirincon4972
      @aracelirincon4972 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will that was a spin off. No body cares about that one.

    • @imnotdegamer364
      @imnotdegamer364 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Araceli Rincon What? That doesn’t make any sense

    • @Nintentoni
      @Nintentoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jlcdrawings9312 no

  • @damianruiz3777
    @damianruiz3777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    I still want to know who Bowser knocked up to get Bowser Jr.

    • @targettoad691
      @targettoad691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Damian Ruiz a 43 year old japanese man

    • @ocass66
      @ocass66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      asexual reproduction

    • @Vecderg
      @Vecderg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      yep, it was confirmed to be miyamoto himself
      th-cam.com/video/uu2DnTd3dEo/w-d-xo.html

    • @is_bolo_e_cha
      @is_bolo_e_cha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He's a clone, like boba fett

    • @Daniel328DT
      @Daniel328DT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There's three theories: Kamek created a son for him with magic, Bowser used to have a wife and now babysits his son, and there are different Koopas Bowser's size that look just like him and adopted Bowser Jr.

  • @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan
    @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Jr. is likely to be gone forever except as cameos such as Smash Bros. trophies. This is a shame. But then again Pauline was pretty much gone forever too and look what has happened.

    • @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan
      @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excellent video by the way. I hope you do more things like this.

    • @zynux8252
      @zynux8252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pauline isn't a good comparison. She has had regular appearances in Mario vs. Donkey Kong. She hasn't been "gone forever" in over a decade.

    • @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan
      @ThatsJustLikeYourOpinionMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Zynux but before those games in the 2000's she had been absent since DK '94 to my knowledge. So that's still a huge length of time she vanished. That's what I was referring to. Not her absence between the Mario VS DK series and Odyssey.

    • @zynux8252
      @zynux8252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah okay, that clarifies it then. I thought you were talking about recently.

  • @The_Shadow_Emperor
    @The_Shadow_Emperor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Donkey Kong Jr. is dead. They turned him into an e-Reader card.

    • @deletedTestimony
      @deletedTestimony 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      PEGASUS!!!!!!

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Sean Ramos Good thing I can send him back

    • @Ilikebakconn2
      @Ilikebakconn2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeet

    • @bottomtierbigo
      @bottomtierbigo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I got that joke.

    • @RockyKido
      @RockyKido 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s up there in heaven with Chunky.

  • @Gamechamp3000
    @Gamechamp3000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The simple answer: Modern DK is simultaneously the original DK, Donkey Kong Junior, and a totally new Kong. The characters have changed between totally separate developers without any concrete rules behind those characters' specific relationships with one another, so different developers treated those characters differently. Cranky was clearly established as the original DK, yet Mario Vs. Donkey Kong implies the modern DK to be the original DK. Thus, the true identity of DK is dependent on the individual game, with no possible series-wide consistency.

    • @ravioliman_
      @ravioliman_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gamechamp3000 wow I didn’t expect to see you here, that’s awesome!

    • @partypup6347
      @partypup6347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ravioliman_ same

    • @yadonkno3320
      @yadonkno3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've always seen mario vs dk as events that never actually happened. But I imagine that's all relevant to what you play first and speaks to you most.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yadonkno3320 same could be said about DK’94, because unlike Cranky who never wore a tie, DK in DK’94 DID wear a tie.

  • @silverdamascus2023
    @silverdamascus2023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One thing you forgot to say, in Super Mario Kart on SNES, Donkey Kong Jr. looks older and bigger, hinting that he grew up, but further appearances show him in his younger design again.

    • @ltlucster0207
      @ltlucster0207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meaning this would be the canonical last appearance (besides tour)

  • @browserjunior4707
    @browserjunior4707 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Donkey Kong Jr.’s real name is Expandamous Dongulous II

  • @RoyNumber1
    @RoyNumber1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Okay, we got cool bits and missing in action. Now all we just need is a new know your enemy...

  • @SyncYu
    @SyncYu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    But there's one question left: who's the mother? Is it Miyamoto again?

    • @homerchu7454
      @homerchu7454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      SyncYu like Bowser jr

    • @Knight41b
      @Knight41b 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well... he does get around.

    • @WindowshadeCure
      @WindowshadeCure 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, if Cranky is the current DKs father, then obviously Wrinkley is his mother

    • @aramnolastname1301
      @aramnolastname1301 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's Alex Faciane

    • @bananafilip4756
      @bananafilip4756 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SyncYu wrinkley kong

  • @starolodstar1782
    @starolodstar1782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    we found him

    • @crumplycashew7095
      @crumplycashew7095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He’s stuck as a sprite though, after getting squished by the e-card machine

  • @64speed50
    @64speed50 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Similarites between Jr. and Waluigi
    1: They were both meant to be something bigger
    2: They both only had tennis in the end
    3: Got a smash brothers role taken from them

  • @ZNemerald
    @ZNemerald 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Junior is actually lucky, half of the dk crew only has one game.

  • @sparkleprizm199
    @sparkleprizm199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think he should return and be Pauline’s doubles partner like Luma to Rosalina. At the end of DK 94 it’s shown all 4 get along.

  • @ChristopherSobieniak
    @ChristopherSobieniak 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Putting a tie on DK since '94 certainly has make quite an impact on how we view this guy (of course to me it comes off like preserving a cartoon cliche we've seen in old Hanna-Barbera cartoons).

  • @ianrozalez8592
    @ianrozalez8592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also snake asks if modern Donkey kong, is stable with Mario, and the guy (that I forgot his name was) said "nope, they're still going at it" follwing some examples, Snake then says "A chip off the old block, huh?" So you in my opinion, you are right about this whole theory.

  • @MJTRadio
    @MJTRadio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He's probably on that island of forgotten Nintendo characters from Captain Rainbow. But he wasn't worth rescuing.

  • @JohnMartin-ll9cw
    @JohnMartin-ll9cw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I believe that DK Jr. deserves a second chance, alongside Wart, Tatanga, Foreman Spike, Wanda, and Stanley.
    Also, one of the things I believe is missing in action happens to be the dragon-like first boss of the NES Legend of Zelda, Aquamentus.

    • @Supertimegamingify
      @Supertimegamingify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, link killed him.
      lol

    • @xxthedeathlordxx3208
      @xxthedeathlordxx3208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not Wart.
      That was a reskinned game and everything in it is from Doki Doki Panic. Nothing lives except for bobombs, shy guys, sniflits, birdo, and if you qualify the Super Mario Super Show, Mouser

    • @Iamabum21
      @Iamabum21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In any case, SMB USA (following the lore laid out from the Yoshi's Island trilogy) was a dream Mario had. Some notable characters that do make cameos in the Mario spin-off (and noncanon) games, don't reappear in any other mainline Mario game (getting to Wart's cameo in Link's Awakening in second here) afterwards. Reason being that when we sleep and dream, the scenarios are subconscious plays out for us, often distorts things we see in them and taking that fact into consideration, characters like Birdo and Wart actually happen to be subconscious interpretations for Yoshi (egg regurgitation and jurassic similarities) and Bowser (both wetland like creatures, both use oral attacks, and both are kings), respectively. Shy Guys (Mario and co. adventures in Yoshi's Island) are the only exception to this though. On the topic of Wart's appearance in Link's Awakening, that game was also much like SMB USA, a dreamt up adventure Link had after his sailboat was wrecked in the storm for the opening scene of the game (picking up after the OoA/S true ending. Yes, I know they switched the placement of Link's Awakening BEFORE the Oracle titles, instead of the Hystoria canon for the Downfall timeline, but still, c'mon), so if anything, Wart's cameo is just an homage to SMB USA as they both partake in a dream. (Though Koholint Island disappears at the end, it doesn't prove that it never existed outside of Link's dream, as it shows up in its real form as an island in BotW, spelling /slightly/ different, much like with what I said about Birdo/Yoshi & Wart/Bowser interpretation.)

    • @bluberrydee6205
      @bluberrydee6205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Iamabum21 I DONT FEEL LIKE READIN SH** Anyways I think Doki Doki is dead and Wart is part of Mario now.

    • @kylecampbell565
      @kylecampbell565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Randon Pseudoname mousers appeared in the Paper Mario series. Also Miyamoto himself prefers the American Mario 2 over the lost levels

  • @iYohm
    @iYohm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember an interview (probably Iwata Asks or something similar) about a guy working on Super Mario Kart (how they ended up making Mario Kart is quite fascinating by the way), and he said they picked Donkey Kong Jr because they needed characters that can be easily recognised from the back despite being pretty low res, and easy to animate, which Donkey Kong Jr's tank top provided 😊

  • @BLyonsDesign
    @BLyonsDesign 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    9÷3=6
    8×1=9
    4+2=5
    You heard it here folks

  • @zetsubou1v1
    @zetsubou1v1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It would sorta be nice if they fit junior into the canon going forward. Maybe graduate from the onesie and have a DK jr tie. He could be the tough father type that after saving his dad went out and gathered the family banana hoard.

    • @IdeaBox-dk5vj
      @IdeaBox-dk5vj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds like an interesting way to reinvite him into the games. Plus, it could explain why said hoard is such a big deal in the original DKC game.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@IdeaBox-dk5vj The banana hoard is the last thing DK Junior got for his family... before the Great Ape War.

  • @azumarill1403
    @azumarill1403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We miss you Jr, you will always be remembered.

  • @1uan2wo3tree
    @1uan2wo3tree 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Missing in action went missing in action for a while

  • @BurgerSoup
    @BurgerSoup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Toadsworth should return in the spotlight

    • @aiyai900
      @aiyai900 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bob Bobson IKR

    • @gingerrik1422
      @gingerrik1422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean come on the king of the mushroomworld (no not peach dumbheads) should have some more games to be in

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And MUSHBERT!

    • @gingerrik1422
      @gingerrik1422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheSmart-CasualGamer of course mushbert nowone will forgot him

    • @hanasong8013
      @hanasong8013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Frizzurd
      The general consensus is that the original "Toad" is just a generic man. Every other Toad looks exactly like him (except for the ones that are special)

  • @leehiley444
    @leehiley444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Diddy Kong only appeared in Rare games, until they were bought by Microsoft.
    That's probably why they switched from Junior to Diddy for Double Dash, which likely started development before the buyout, but was released after. Nintendo probably didn't want to step on Rare's toes and first, but after Microsoft bought Rare, there were no toes to be stepped on.
    Hopefully Junior will return one day. It was nice seeing new sprites in Super Mario Maker (swimming, crouching etc).

  • @shyguy85
    @shyguy85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we got him back! now he'll leave for another 10-20 years.

  • @NintendoLover2005
    @NintendoLover2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He's back in Mario Kart Tour!

  • @JangoFox
    @JangoFox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Obviously DK Jr. is living in New Donks City as a construction worker. :P

  • @silverdamascus2023
    @silverdamascus2023 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Missing in Action: Stanley the Bug Man (Mario/Donkey Kong)
    Missing in Action: Stuff from Super Mario Land 2 (Mario)
    Missing in Action: Tatanga (Mario)
    Missing in Action: Wart (Mario)
    Missing in Action: Shellcreepers (Mario Bros. Arcade)
    Missing in Action: Kiddy Kong, Lanky Kong and Chunky Kong (Donkey Kong)
    Missing in Action: Rudy the Clown (Wario Land)
    Missing in Action: Real-world cities (GTA)
    Missing in Action: Real-world (Pokémon)
    Missing in Action: Pre-Windows cast (Touhou)
    Missing in Action: Tawna Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
    Missing in Action: Tarzan (Kingdom Hearts)
    Missing in Action: Battletoads
    Missing in Action: Alex Kidd

    • @YuukiTakemoto1996
      @YuukiTakemoto1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tawna is back, but YES for Touhou stuff. WHERE IS MIMA

    • @unwelldanny7108
      @unwelldanny7108 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alex Kidd has new games now. But I'd kill for the pre-Windows cast. I think Mountain of Faith was a soft reboot.

    • @silverdamascus2023
      @silverdamascus2023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Battletoads also came back, this list is old.
      Chunky Kong also made an appearance in the Super Mario Bros. movie.

  • @brobag9885
    @brobag9885 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Missing in Action: The Donkey Kong 64 kongs! Tiny hasn't appeared since Mario Super Sluggers in 2008, Lanky hasn't appeared since Barrel Blast in 2007, and Chunky hasn't appeared in ANYTHING since DK64. Please find them!

    • @chrischan3066
      @chrischan3066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MyManNathan cameos in smash ultimate

  • @oswaldoguevara5676
    @oswaldoguevara5676 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh man..DK JR is one of my favorite of all time!! He should made it to Super Smash Bros roster.

    • @JuriSins
      @JuriSins 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol i hope you're joking

    • @bert7651
      @bert7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuriSins DK Jr. is better than Diddy, sorry.
      ... not sorry.

  • @xxthedeathlordxx3208
    @xxthedeathlordxx3208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At the end, with the Mario age vs DK age: Gorillas have far shorter lifespans than that of a human, thus, it does make sense that Cranky Kong is the original DK with Mario appearing in his game.

    • @piepivotmonitor5986
      @piepivotmonitor5986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. And i'm going to punch all the people who think otherwise.

    • @bert7651
      @bert7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why won't Cranky hurry up and die?

    • @paperluigi6132
      @paperluigi6132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bert7651 He's got a lot of fight left in him. Also, I wonder what the age difference is/was between Cranky and Wrinkly

  • @samuelthecamel
    @samuelthecamel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I am kongfused by the konggregation of kongsecutive kong puns in this kongversation.

    • @novathefallenstarwarrior
      @novathefallenstarwarrior 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Samuel Voltz You sir, have won the Internet

    • @Wheaty03
      @Wheaty03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the amount of puns you made is kongfounding

    • @d3rpyedits
      @d3rpyedits 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kim Kong Un

    • @quantumflare
      @quantumflare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am indeed kongfounded

  • @DuskyPredator
    @DuskyPredator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I kind of liked the theory that the original Mario of Donkey Kong is the modern one's father, he was a carpenter instead of a plumber. The appearance of Pauline in Odyssey could make a problem with. But also, the cannon of the Mario universe is weird, roles of character can shift in playing sports, their timeline jump around, and I think the past in Odyssey could even be pixels.

  • @CluelessAnon
    @CluelessAnon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd love to see DK Jr appear as an adult with a bald spot and a coffee mug in a future game. Then he's all like "Hey kiddo! Been a while! Hope your old granddad hasn't been too hard on ya!"

  • @steveluvscows2490
    @steveluvscows2490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And 2 years later, the Lost Kong was brought back... In a very blocky form, soon to be riding Karts on Mobile.

  • @gustyko8668
    @gustyko8668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    They should probably make a grownup DK Jr appear as modern DK's long lost father, as well as Cranky's long lost son.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just make DK Jr into modern DK’s son and Cranky’s Great Grandson.

  • @Mattgamer003
    @Mattgamer003 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We need a Missing in Action for Koopa Kid from the Mario Party series

  • @unclerichardssmokedetector9769
    @unclerichardssmokedetector9769 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the missing in action and cool bits series. Please never let them go _missing in action_

  • @pirakax12
    @pirakax12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The biggest reason diddy was used from double dash and forward and even why jr was orginaly planned, Was actualy becasue rare was bought by microsoft. Rare acted as a 2nd party to nintendo but they co-owned all original charcters in DKC series including diddy. This ment that if they where to use diddy outside a rare game nintendo had to pay royalties to Rare. So instead they tended to use jr instead. But when rare got bought out by microsoft in 2002 with it they lost all rights to the kong family and they where compeltly owned by nintendo. Allowing them to use the more regonizable and icon diddy.

    • @Jungy_Mungerson
      @Jungy_Mungerson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for this information

  • @JDXtraction
    @JDXtraction 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He came back in Mario Kart Tour.

  • @JonnyJinx04
    @JonnyJinx04 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. One other strange thing about DK Jr's appearance in Mario Tennis 64 was that, when he wins a Cup, during his victory cutscene, he gets hugged by Donkey Kong. This would imply that the intent was that this DK Jr is Donkey Kong's son, rather than being an alternate timeline version of him like Baby Mario.
    Perhaps the DK Jr from Mario Tennis and MKDD is yet ANOTHER DK Jr who is the son of the modern DK?

  • @Alice-FE
    @Alice-FE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    KONG-FUSING, ANDRE, YOU'RE THE PUN MASTER

  • @TheNerdySasquatch
    @TheNerdySasquatch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Who would have thought that the Mario and Donkey Kong Country timeline would be more complicated than the Zelda timeline?

    • @natnew32
      @natnew32 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Baby DK is actually the baby version of DK JR (It's ambiguous enough to allow that), the dates/times of all games line up perfectly. Baby Cranky works too, but with some reservations. But Baby-Modern-DK, as the video states, throws everything out of whack.

    • @SJMan2022
      @SJMan2022 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      remember BoTW is in all three timelines

    • @xxthedeathlordxx3208
      @xxthedeathlordxx3208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No Richard Pape, it is clearly in the failed hero timeline cos you fight Gabon in demon form instead of as Ganondorf

    • @KOTEBANAROT
      @KOTEBANAROT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "zolda timlein iz hard" is a meme with no actual basis, stop forcing it

    • @zrobeast
      @zrobeast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m now awaiting a million split timeline theories for DK.

  • @alol1551
    @alol1551 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A family tree would've been useful to discuss how Junior plays in to everything. I got pretty lost at those points.

  • @anrriveradxndsigamer1495
    @anrriveradxndsigamer1495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:30 DK junior went through a time machine

  • @InputEthan
    @InputEthan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dk jr is making an appearance as a playable character in Mario kart tour for Mario’s 35 anniversary

  • @Dmdm_dm
    @Dmdm_dm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I prefer the Cranky-father / DK - son narrative, as it'd mean that modern DK is the grown up DKJr. That'd be so much better than having three DKs basically: DK/Cranky - DKJr - (modern) DK.

    • @justatoaster3140
      @justatoaster3140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doesn’t change the fact that dk is his grandson.

  • @rarm5899
    @rarm5899 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d love to see Jr. come back in a future DKC game as the villain with a vendetta against Diddy for replacing them. Then he recruits a bunch of the old Kongs and starts a Kong Civil War.

  • @takodacorliss5838
    @takodacorliss5838 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’d honestly really like to see DK Junior get into Smash as a retro semi-clone of the standard DK

  • @vegetafan9922
    @vegetafan9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "if Jr. ever did reappear it would be in his standard design."
    Within this same video was shown Jr.'s cameo in the audience of Waluigi Stadium in Mario Kart Double Dash which shows him using a redesign more akin to Country...

  • @Vezmus1337
    @Vezmus1337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's simple: Cranky is the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game, Donkey Kong Jr is his son, and the new Donkey Kong is the third. The DK64 quote where Cranky calls Donkey Kong III his son is either in error or simply using the "heir" definition (e.g. a son and a grandson both being called "sons"). This is the "canon" lineage that you will find on the Donkey Kong wiki.

  • @Mom-cf2je
    @Mom-cf2je 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    “Was this Nintendo’s intent?”
    A question GameTheory would never ask

  • @simondomino
    @simondomino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You should do a Missing in Action for Koopa Kid

    • @mwj9080
      @mwj9080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really good idea

  • @Mattgamer003
    @Mattgamer003 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Missing in Action: Koopa Kid

  • @Kennykazey
    @Kennykazey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Bring Donkey Kong JR back in Mario Tennis Aces or we riot!

    • @Cellmate412162
      @Cellmate412162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Super Kenny Better idea... Bring Donkey Kong JR back in Mario Tennis Aces or we’ll release gorillas on construction sites!

    • @blossom6309
      @blossom6309 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cellmate412162 I wish mario tennis 64 have remake I wish Nintendo replace dk jr with dixie kong new characters are koopalings costumes are classic ones pee piranha king boo classic

  • @TheRogueMaverick
    @TheRogueMaverick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    With the fact that Mario Tennis Aces has so many characters, some kinda unexpected, I could see Junior reappearing in that game!

  • @RAVAGE656
    @RAVAGE656 6 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    missing in action: king k. rool

    • @cp93archive60
      @cp93archive60 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr

    • @03bgood
      @03bgood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And DK: King of Swing. Not sure about DK: Jungle Climber.

    • @03bgood
      @03bgood 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And DK: King of Swing. Not sure about DK: Jungle Climber.

    • @Jamster8399
      @Jamster8399 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      actually no, Rare lost the rights to those characters after Microsoft bought the British game developer, besides they still make appearances in other DK games

    • @stuff5499
      @stuff5499 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      missing in action: -funny face- lanky kong, tiny kong and chunky kong

  • @ThirdBlade
    @ThirdBlade 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some could say DK jr origins is a bit kong-plicated.

    • @channelVlogger
      @channelVlogger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jetthestorm I think I have to kong-template those puns a bit more

  • @Maklopdsreturned
    @Maklopdsreturned 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It would be awesome to see one of these missing in action videos of Stanley the Bugman. He's got a lot of history behind him.

  • @manboi1794
    @manboi1794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He's been found in mario kart tour!

  • @Wanten-the-stormtrooper
    @Wanten-the-stormtrooper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe that this is one of the few topics of Missing in Action that hasn't returned since it's video - Adeline reappeared in Star Allies (as a DLC Dream Friend), Mighty, Ray and the Hooligans came back in Sonic Mania (/Mania +) in one way or another, so only DK jr., Takamaru and Sarasaland are still absent. Maybe they too will return at some point...

  • @Genguidanos
    @Genguidanos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still personally prefer to view modern Donkey Kong as the grown up Donkey Kong Jr. with Cranky as his father and the original Donkey Kong. Any time Cranky is referred to "grandpa" is just an euphemisms for how old he is. Anytime Cranky refers to modern Donkey Kong as his "grandson" is just the result of senility.

  • @Switcheroo4542
    @Switcheroo4542 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe DK Junior grew up to be King Kong and well...we all know what happend to him.

    • @pokeness686
      @pokeness686 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luke McNamara Lol. I like to think he became Funky or Chunky Kong

  • @3.5mmJack
    @3.5mmJack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy moly, I think this is the best edited GameXplain video ever. Well done Derrick, it must have taken a long time to edit this.

    • @GameXplain
      @GameXplain  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jamie Camilleri Thanks!

  • @PatLund
    @PatLund 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Diddy is a better designed character anyway.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But DK Jr is better designed compared to KIDDY Kong.

  • @theearthkingdom7537
    @theearthkingdom7537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just think that DK Junior is the modern DK’s father and that cranky Kong was the original DK

  • @Commander034
    @Commander034 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You forgot to account for the fact that Gorillas have a life span of 35-40 years. Cranky Kong can be the original Donkey Kong and face the modern Mario without any issues in age coming up.

  • @DKVine
    @DKVine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A pretty evenhanded look! Whenever i was about to disagree with something you said or scream at the video to refute it, you'd come along and make that same point (the "Baby Mario was also in Mario Tennis" bit).
    One thing: Cranky specifically mentions raising the modern DK in DKC Returns. "I didn't raise you in a barn!" This would imply the possibility that DK could be Cranky's (and Wrinkly's) biological grandson who was still raised by them when their actual son or daughter vanished or died. This is the "Missing Generation" theory, and it allows the modern Donkey Kong to be both DK Jr. AND the grandchild of Cranky.

    • @deletedTestimony
      @deletedTestimony 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy duck, that makes more sense than anything. Grandparents often refer to adopted grandchildren as if they were direct children. It's possible in that regard for Cranky to be DK's grandfather and then also adopted father.

  • @randombluetoad1308
    @randombluetoad1308 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ANDRE? ANDRE, HAVE YOU BEEN MESSING WITH MY SCRIPTS AGAIN???

  • @heavenlyexperience2656
    @heavenlyexperience2656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had figured out the mystery. He had died in world of light and was turned into a spirit.

  • @benmalsky9834
    @benmalsky9834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Donkey Kong Jr.’s inclusion in Mario Tennis and his unused model in Double Dash has a very simple reason behind it. Diddy was treated and thought of as a Rare original character and it wasn’t until Rare’s acquisition by Microsoft that Diddy started appearing in non-Rare titles. Because of this, Nintendo could only use DK Jr. as a partner in various games and it’s possible had Rare stayed, it would have remained that way. As far as I’m aware, that explains why Diddy only appeared in Rare-developed titles until Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour.

  • @Fifty50.
    @Fifty50. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are multiple donkey kong jr's in the crowd in waluigi's stadium

    • @siinistar7953
      @siinistar7953 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spencer S The clones are what the video is about

  • @Dren215
    @Dren215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Except that Mario odyssey states that that modern Mario is the same Mario from the original.

  • @SophisticatedGoat222
    @SophisticatedGoat222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    New theory: Donky Kong Jr. is actually Mario.

  • @jaye4521
    @jaye4521 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought DK Jr. would be a great "retro" character in Smash Bros. Despite not showing up in years, he's still really iconic with old-school gamers and could be a good representative of the "arcade" series of DK games.

  • @mikenayers5981
    @mikenayers5981 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cranky being elderly while Mario barely aging isn’t so much an inconsistency, since apes have shorter lifespans.

  • @WamyDuper
    @WamyDuper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn, since when was the mario lore as complicated as kingdom hearts

  • @SteveNathn
    @SteveNathn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To me, I think DK Jr. might be Funky Kong.

  • @firch7123
    @firch7123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nintendo should make this to intelligently bring back junior, transforming him to become “Daddy Kong”

  • @tommya1366
    @tommya1366 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the original Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. and I hate Rare for what they did to them.

  • @mikebud420
    @mikebud420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would be cool if there was a group of Kongs, Including Jr, That was around before DK and his group. I don't know how much hype it would bring for the DK franchise, but I'd be interested in a game based around Jr and his possible friends at the time. A version of him as a grown up Kong and maybe a sorta stereotypical Dad version of Cranky, just for the lolz. Maybe a fedora and a brief case, Coming in from work and gettin all CRANKY at Jr. Got to love how recently a lot of our childhood games, that somewhat made no sense in a timeline perspective, Are now being shown with more detail and love. The DK franchise was a big confusing bundle. But gotta love every character.

  • @FastyPace
    @FastyPace 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What's with Lanky, Chunky and Tiny? We haven't seen them in a long time as well. If I'm correct, we only saw them in two games.

  • @buddyfree1321
    @buddyfree1321 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man the mario cannon is more complicated than Kingdom hearts. XD

  • @DarkAura19
    @DarkAura19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Whoa who could have possibly seen this coming? No hints were dropped about this whatsoever!!!!

  • @winner3887
    @winner3887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I propose bringing Donkey Kong Jr. back as *Daddy Kong,* as he appears to be modern Donkey Kong's dad.

  • @rabiroden
    @rabiroden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DK Jr. also starred in the GBA e-Reader commercial, where he gets crushed by a machine into the shape of a card. Yep.

  • @GWallPro
    @GWallPro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Man, I really miss Donkey Kong Jr. I really don't care if he's either the father or the son of the current DK, but as long as he's a separate character I would kill to see him return! I miss him too much and it sucks that the only games I can play him in are Super Mario Kart and Mario Tennis 64. DK Jr. deserves to be back!!
    Also, a Missing in Action episode of Shadow Mario would be really cool. I mean, Bowser Jr. still has that capability, and it's really cool. But man, imagine if Shadow Mario became playable again...

    • @ARope0fSand
      @ARope0fSand 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, you could play as him on the VB in Mario's Tennis.

    • @unwelldanny7108
      @unwelldanny7108 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can play as him in his debut game too.

  • @Ur2ez4me81
    @Ur2ez4me81 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A 3d DK Jr. would be kind of dope... Speaking of Kongs though still can't believe Donkey is not in Mario odyssey. Would be awesome seeing a big DK roaming around New Donk city & smashing building or something...

    • @newageBoundhippie
      @newageBoundhippie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      actually I'd love to have a kingdom based on the DK Isles from the DKC games, with DK & other Kongs as NPCs. The enemies could be various Kremlings, Tikis and Snowmads ( fun capture possibilities there too ), and King K Rool could serve as the main boss of the world. Purple coins could resemble bananas, and new costumes could be based on Funky Kong, DK Junior Kaptain K Rool and Baron K Roolenstein. and there could be a 2D sequence based on DK Junior too, focused on using vines to get around

    • @YuukiTakemoto1996
      @YuukiTakemoto1996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the first time I've seen someone call DK "Donkey." Danny's classmate calls him that when he plays as him in Super Mario Sluggers. Danny was like, "TF??"

  • @Wheaty03
    @Wheaty03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've got an amazing idea for an MIA episode! I can see it now...
    Missing in Action: My Keys

  • @DiabloZackary
    @DiabloZackary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "donkey kong jr, missing in action"
    the rest of the dk crew: "am i a joke to you?"

  • @charlesn898
    @charlesn898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Donkey Kong Jr. is a victim of what is known on TV as Chuck Cunningham Syndrome.