*Jesus Christ said the following about the Jehovah's Witness leaders: “But woe to you, [governing body] scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. For you do not go in yourselves, and when others are going in, you stop them."* *~ Matthew **23:13*
Jehovah's Witnesses Testimonies only 144000 are chosen to go to heaven. Rev 14:1-8. Rev 7:4 man’s home is earth. John 8:23 You must be chosen by Jehovah to go to heaven. Matt 22:14 many invited, few chosen, 144000 Rev 7:4 0nly the number 144000 are sealed to go to heaven. Read Rev14:1-8 again
bridget fromAZ Hi this Tom please do not get me wrong I love you and Mike and Kim and I just hope my cousins get hell out you might be a real Hebrew Israelite my tribe is Levi Priest of Aaron
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What a lovely lady, you have planted the seed in her and you plants the seed in thousands. I am amazed! Tha is be to God thru Jesus Christ! I feel so uplifted. Big hug
Down with the Tower- ex JW Orar sin parar, sin cesar, todo el mundo! Everone: pray without ceasing!! We naturally ALL seek our Saviour. No wonder it is so abnormal to hear that Christ is only mediator for a few. We need thee every hour, Precious Lord, open the eyes of the blind ones and draw all men unto you!
Marcia Hooley, as a former JW, I give my answer that a current JW would not have much inclination to think that someone of another faith would take the time to understand what the Watchtower has printed and passed on as spiritual food. It would be easier for them to dismiss someone, like Bridget, as an apostate who had tasted the truth and left Jehovah as they would say. So if you are a former JW or not, it really matters how they will engage in conversation. Bridget has a great inroad to these people being she has never been associated or more importantly never baptized into this organization. If anyone has never been deeply associated or baptized into the JW organizations, I encourage you to engage them. You have opportunities that, particularly, Watchtower proclaimed apostates, do not.
Makes me so sad for the rank and file. They are Saved!! They are Saved!! They don't even know it! It must have been how Jesus felt when the Jews were being held down by they Pharisees.
Why is it that when you ask them about why they aren’t allowed to go to other websites that they all say “well we can as “individuals”.... it’s so creepy
because the best "information" or "mind" control leaves people thinking it's just their personal choice. -- "I can, but just choose not to." oh, by the way, all 8 millions just happen to "choose not to." hmm. creepy indeed
Being on the outside looking in JW's know nothing about their own teachings nor do they know what the Bible really means.Shacking my head in disbelief so recording them is priceless.
Why is it that when you quote something from their website that contradicts their teachings they always direct you back to the website that doesn't give you any answers but leaves you asking more questions?
My mother ignored what I had said about Jesus not being her mediator unless she announced that she was anointed (calls herself Christ) because Watchtower teaches that Jesus is only mediator to the 144,000. It's a good thing she has a cell phone now. I texted the information to her, and she hasn't commented on it since. It takes time for the older ones to digest the deception. However, having it on her phone, to always be able to reference it, will help her to come to terms with it, or so I believe, in her own time. I hope the woman you spoke to will be vigilant in looking it up. It's a real eye opener. Great phone witnessing, by the way. You were great with her. God bless. :)
WoWNimblybimbly Moses was only Mediator for Israel. Jesus is only Mediator for those who are born again. Rev14:1-8 Hebrew 9:15 the New Covenant is for the chosen ones. You must be born again for Jesus to be your Mediator. You must be heir with Christ. Romans 8:14-17,33 You must be chosen by Jehovah for Jesus to be you Mediator. Jesus can be intercessor. Jesus is mankind sacrifice. Jesus died for mankind. We go through Jesus to get to Jehovah. ( intercessor) The Mediator is for the spiritual nation. Christ bride, the 144000. 1 Pet 2:5 Today Jehovah is using a spiritual house to bless all of mankind. Gen 22:18 again the spiritual offspring of Abraham will bless mankind..
The word Mediator can be used as a synonym. For to go through Jesus in that sense( intercessor) the Mediator is for the new covenant between Jehovah and the New Jerusalem, Christ bride the 144000 Only. Rev 14:1. Rev 7:4
None of them you call can listen. They are trained to oppose. None can concentrate. Ask what those scriptures mean that you quoted. Most don't even know their rules! Talk about the BODY, how ALL Christians who trust in Christ are part of the BODY.
It never ceases to amaze me when they say to learn about what they believe. The irony is, ex JWs and non JWs are the ones who know FULLY about their beliefs!! They just fail to listen to what’s being said, and are programmed to say the same drivel to everyone, regardless of what’s being asked, it’s mind blowing!!!
"We can go to other web sights as individuals" truth is.... "but none of us will because we are all in unison with the group think. We are no longer individuals."
I love the way you stun those witnesses talking about the Bible, something they truly believe knowing more anyone else. Poor Jdub lady who's been a JW her whole life (as she said) and still doesn't know that according to her leaders, Jesus is NOT her mediator. I really feel sorry for Jehovah's Witnesses (from and ex-JW).
The poor JW lady is all about pushing the Watchtower agenda and promoting the Watchtower website and literature. She utterly ignores and is unconcerned with the fact that Jesus is not her mediator.
Bridget: I again must say, your work is great. The lady you spoke with, seems open and you planted some deep seeds with her. Waking up is a process. One to think, after a few minutes talking with them,they down to their knees and accept Christ is not living in the real world. The lady said she is a JW all her life. To untie the ball of yarn will take some time. Bridget, you gave the Lady a good push in the right direction. God Bless.
Thanks for the kind encouragement! Yes, i agree with you - it's all about planting seeds, and praying others will water, and God will give the increase. (in His time!) God bless you too brother.
Exactly the great crowd is not in the New covenant. The New covenant is for Christ bride, the New Jerusalem.the spiritual nation. Rev21:1,2. Matt 21:43 They are a spiritual house. 1 Pet 2:5 What is the New covenant for.? Luke 4:43. John 18:36 j
@@bridgetazaz your videos have helped wake me up from Jehovah's Witnesses indoctrination and for that I am eternally grateful. Thank you! I desire to learn more about Jesus Christ.
I grew up in this cult, all three of my sister's and my father still in this. I can't help but feel like laughing at them. Part of me does feel as you. I left 30 yrs ago and they just now starting to talk to me. I know how they are, they think they all better than the world. I hear the lies they tell from your videos. It makes me mad.sorry
Sorry you lost so much time with your family. It's just pure evil, how the WT breaks up families. I can tell you that people outside the org still have NO idea about this...
I think some Witnesses are intelligent, but the mind control methods are so slick and so powerful... i feel for them. -- i think having the web site now, has really lowered the level overall. I wonder if this is what the GB intended...or if the whole web site thing is backfiring on them.
I honestly feel that you could talk to the very last witness on the earth and you would be hard to find one that says, "Oh, yes, that's true Christine, Jesus is the mediator ONLY for the 144k." I've listened to many of your videos, and I think I might just fall over if you ever find a witness who knows that. But, hey, who knows.
maybe it was one i haven't posted, but i think i did hear it a few times. If they affirm that and are fine with it, all we can try to say is...then who is your Mediator? Doesn't that make the anointed your mediator? That is a logical conclusion from what the pubs say to keep in a good relationship with Jehovah, you must support the anointed and the Slave, blah blah.
What I want to know is who is their mediator once Christ calls the 144k to heaven upon his return? Who then do the Great Crowd go through? We would not yet be perfect, so we can't talk to God directly right? Memorial is coming up, I am going to have ask an elder lol.
It's amazing how many JW's don't know that Watchtower teaches that Christ is the Mediator for the 144,000 only. Two Elders used to give me 'Bible study', which is in reality Watchtower study. When I asked them if Christ is their Mediator they said that he is even though they were not of the 144,000. When I showed them the Watchtower 'Prince of Peace' book, page 10 that you mention in your video, they became confused and told me they would get back to me on this, which they never did. If JW's ever say that the teaching in the 'Prince of Peace' book is 'old light' and that Christ is their Mediator, point them to the JW.org website. Click on Publications, then click on Meeting Workbooks. Click on April 2017 and the scroll to Jehovah Foretold the New Covenant. You will see there that Watchtower still teaches that Christ is the Mediator for spiritual Israel, or the 144,000. Anyone not of the 144,000 is not in the New Covenant. In other words, Watchtower is still teaching that Christ is not the Mediator for the rank and file of JW's. Watchtower will not come out and say this in their magazines Watchtower or Awake, nor will you hear them saying this in the Kingdom Halls or on JW Broadcasting. Watchtower is afraid of openly broadcasting this to JW's because it knows that JW's believe that Christ is their Mediator. Openly announcing Watchtower's teaching that Christ is Mediator for the 144,000 only would be putting the cat amongst the pigeons.
It's really disturbing WT keeps their own members in the dark to the point that they dont know what's going on in their own Org. Their doctrine is so confusing from all the flip flopping that the members become confused. It's really sad to see them defending their org. and don't realize they are being misled. So glad I left it all behind 20 yrs ago. Cheers!
In the Bible Jesus says " unless you drink my blood and eat my flesh , you have no life in you " ..John 6:53..so every year at their memorial at Easter time JW's give up their eternal life by refusing to do this..by just passing the bread and wine as opposed to eating and drinking it, they are dooming themselves..oh, they will say that practice is only limited to the 144,000 anointed class..where is that in the Bible ??
Great video, i was thinking whethrr it would be worth saying that the born of God, forgiveness of sins etc is something that the Bible offers to those who believe, right now, not in the future, so clearly is not location related.
I looked up the scripture in 1 Peter, she started reading in verse 3, verse 1 is the introduction and it says to whom he is writing. He is writing to numerous places....and ALL those people clearly had the heavenly hope. Don't witnesses believe these people are also part of the 144,000? Looks like that small number would have gotten filled up pretty quickly.
This lady really isnt listening. Her answers are diversions and nonsense. She only parrots what the GB tells her. And when you inform her, she questions your motives. I feel sorry for her.
I think I will go onto jw.org and ask them if they know that the average jw knows what the organization teaches? This proves that they aren't interested in Truth, but only blindly follow the organization. Any sane person can see this. It's so, so sad because I have family in this cult and they won't listen to a SINGLE thing I have to say. They get angry and shut down if I bring something up and contradicts their teachings. So sad.
It would be hard to ask them at that web site, as they don't accept emails from the public. They also recently have said they don't take questions at their HQ any more, rather, ones with questions/concerns must write a snail mail letter! -- Have you ever read "combatting cult mind Control" by Steve Hassan? It talks a lot about trying to help family members, and explains why they are as you describe. It's frustrating isn't it, but way to try, because you CARE! God bless.
Thanks for the info. I will check that out. It is so amazing to me how these people won't listen to anything I have to say because of their presuppositions. It's almost like the organization has completely shut down the function of listening and thinking for themselves. I wonder how the Bereans ever did it?
Dear Rich B. - As you have experienced and as Bridget has pointed out, JWs do not listen to anything anyone outside the organization has to say. What Bridget does well is to practise what is called the Socratic method. Ask questions so that the JW thinks that he or she is teaching you. If you can keep him or her answering your questions long enough he or she might see the contradictions in the Watchtower teachings. Once that nagging seed of doubt about the WTB&TS has been planted you have achieved a great victory. Often the JW shuts down as soon as he or she realizes that he or she cannot proceed along the predetermined Watchtower path. That’s okay. A seed has been planted.
Adam - sin - death Spiritually dead Jesus Christ - mediator Son of God is lamb of God Reconciliation through only one who can redeemer because he is the way and light and truth and life The children of God
Audio vs visual vs kinesthetic learners. That may be a factor in helping get past a blockage. At least this woman knows it is rude to hang up. As the other comment below states about texting, it is in view and may be reread. It must be stated at some point that JW is just one of several invented religions in US religious history, all of which came about during the same few years, as it was the going thing to invent your own religion. It was Jesus Christ who set the black captive forefathers free, due to their faith IN HIM. If any man be IN CHRIST, he is a new creation. Old things are passed away. Behold all things are made new. HOW COULD "the organization" set the captive free? Also, "the organization" doesn't set the captive free. The Bible talks about helping the "least of these." "The organization" ignores these instructions completely.
Gee-Ooffry Jackson Bridget Darling That how his name is pronounced ..Jeffery Not his name Dear !!..I Love u too pieces Tho ...She gonna ask u Have u been affiliated with JWs .Like it's so unbelievable that someone on the outside can know more about the Bible Then they Do!..lol!😂😂...I have noticed tho because I am a Black woman but Black women r very verbal and they listen longer than most. .Have u noticed that. not that it matters but I did Noticed!!....God Bless ur Heart Bridget u r one in a million!😘
This makes me sad. You are telling her that it is in their own publications that Jesus is not her mediator and she absolutely refuses to believe it, even after you give her references from their current literature. I hope she looked it up
Funny…JW’s believe in the Bible UNTIL it’s contradicts WT. they choose writings by mortal men who change “truth” constantly OVER the words of Christ himself. How cultish
Why are you bent on proving the jws wrong? Its time to move on.do what the bible says and move on ! Don't miss understand me I agree with almost everything you present and I used to be a witness for 20+ yrs and left for different reasons but learning all this just reinforces my conviction.just be careful not to become obsessed with proving them wrong.otherwise you are being just like them ! Fyi a lot of wittneses are thinking they are going to return to true Christian teachings in time.just not there yet.
Bridget... I'm not too sure why you're not bringing up 1st Corinthians chapter 15 verses 54 through 55 when they talk about living on Paradise Earth and when they bring up the scripture saying that death will be no more in the Book of Psalms and all tears will be wiped away... Paul says when the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable and the Mortal with immortality then the saying that is written will come true death has been swallowed up in Victory where o death is your Victory where o death is your sting In fact in the New World Translation and uses the term this is when this saying takes place First you can establish that the entire chapter of 15 is speaking of going to heaven and then bring in that's what Paul says
Jesus is mediator only for 144000 . Rev 14:1 Moses was only mediator for the nation of Israel.john 1:17 Gal 3:19 The New covenant is for a spiritual nation. John 1:11-13 the nation of Israel had first choice in the new covenant. Majority of Israel rejected Jesus as the messiah . This left a opening for the Gentiles ( non Jews)Acts 13:45,46. Acts 18:5,6 The New covenant is Jews and Gentiles who become born again Christians. Only 144000 rules with Christ. 144000 is Christ bride. Christ and his bride make up God kingdom or the New heaven.. Rev 21:2 You must remember the prophecy at Gen 22:18 Jehovah told Abraham by means of your offspring all nations will be bless. Abraham seed , Christ Jesus and those baptized in Christ , the 144000 born again Christians becomes Abraham seed. Gal 3:26-29 Once again christ Jesus and his bride make up the kingdom of God or the New heaven. The New heaven or God’s kingdom is the solution to all mankind problems. Rev 21:1-7 Matt 22:1-14 Many invited only a few chosen to go to heaven. ( 144000) Rev 14:1. Rev 7:4 Man home is planet earth. John 8:23 Only Jehovah choose who go to heaven.Rom 8;33
bridget fromAZ that’s the Bible view. Jehovah plans for the earth has not changed. Ps 37 :9-11 Everyone can’t put themselves in heaven. You must be born again. You must be chosen by Jehovah. Rom 8:33
@@malcomjones2857 you do preach the kingdom yes? Jesus says if you arent born again you wont see it. so ....what "kingdom" are you preaching? obviously one you wont see im guessing
*Jesus Christ said the following about the Jehovah's Witness leaders: “But woe to you, [governing body] scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. For you do not go in yourselves, and when others are going in, you stop them."* *~ Matthew **23:13*
Jehovah's Witnesses Testimonies only 144000 are chosen to go to heaven. Rev 14:1-8. Rev 7:4 man’s home is earth. John 8:23 You must be chosen by Jehovah to go to heaven. Matt 22:14 many invited, few chosen, 144000 Rev 7:4 0nly the number 144000 are sealed to go to heaven. Read Rev14:1-8 again
You are so good Bridget! 💜
But maybe i only post the good ones, LOL. xox thanks for the encourage!
bridget fromAZ hehe. I know how it is. Lol.
bridget fromAZ Hi this Tom please do not get me wrong I love you and Mike and Kim and I just hope my cousins get hell out you might be a real Hebrew Israelite my tribe is Levi Priest of Aaron
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@@jessicaheather4404 Such a sad story :)
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh these people infuriate me so much!! I cannot believe I was EVER one of these idiots!!
You are amazing. I feel so sorry for. JW's they are so lost.
thanks for the encouragement. Yes, the theology is so awful, continual probation, threats, legalism. All law...no gospel. :(
Dear Kristin
You make me think
My mind is opening 😊
"Are you blocking out what I'm saying" 😂
What a lovely lady, you have planted the seed in her and you plants the seed in thousands. I am amazed! Tha is be to God thru Jesus Christ! I feel so uplifted. Big hug
hugs back, thanks for the kind encouragement brother.
EXCELENTE!
Down with the Tower- ex JW Orar sin parar, sin cesar, todo el mundo! Everone: pray without ceasing!! We naturally ALL seek our Saviour. No wonder it is so abnormal to hear that Christ is only mediator for a few. We need thee every hour, Precious Lord, open the eyes of the blind ones and draw all men unto you!
why would she ask if you were "ever associated"? Why would that matter anyway? SO paranoid!
Marcia Hooley, as a former JW, I give my answer that a current JW would not have much inclination to think that someone of another faith would take the time to understand what the Watchtower has printed and passed on as spiritual food. It would be easier for them to dismiss someone, like Bridget, as an apostate who had tasted the truth and left Jehovah as they would say. So if you are a former JW or not, it really matters how they will engage in conversation. Bridget has a great inroad to these people being she has never been associated or more importantly never baptized into this organization. If anyone has never been deeply associated or baptized into the JW organizations, I encourage you to engage them. You have opportunities that, particularly, Watchtower proclaimed apostates, do not.
Makes me so sad for the rank and file. They are Saved!! They are Saved!! They don't even know it! It must have been how Jesus felt when the Jews were being held down by they Pharisees.
Loved the pic right on point 😂lesson awesome as well ❤
Smooth like butter Bridget.
I think many of them are conditioned to block out old light as soon as it is replaced with new light.
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Why is it that when you ask them about why they aren’t allowed to go to other websites that they all say “well we can as “individuals”.... it’s so creepy
because the best "information" or "mind" control leaves people thinking it's just their personal choice. -- "I can, but just choose not to." oh, by the way, all 8 millions just happen to "choose not to." hmm. creepy indeed
Being on the outside looking in JW's know nothing about their own teachings nor do they know what the Bible really means.Shacking my head in disbelief so recording them is priceless.
Being born again was clearly explained by Jesus in John 3:3-18
Why is it that when you quote something from their website that contradicts their teachings they always direct you back to the website that doesn't give you any answers but leaves you asking more questions?
My mother ignored what I had said about Jesus not being her mediator unless she announced that she was anointed (calls herself Christ) because Watchtower teaches that Jesus is only mediator to the 144,000. It's a good thing she has a cell phone now. I texted the information to her, and she hasn't commented on it since. It takes time for the older ones to digest the deception. However, having it on her phone, to always be able to reference it, will help her to come to terms with it, or so I believe, in her own time.
I hope the woman you spoke to will be vigilant in looking it up. It's a real eye opener.
Great phone witnessing, by the way. You were great with her. God bless. :)
WoWNimblybimbly Moses was only Mediator for Israel. Jesus is only Mediator for those who are born again. Rev14:1-8 Hebrew 9:15 the New Covenant is for the chosen ones. You must be born again for Jesus to be your Mediator. You must be heir with Christ. Romans 8:14-17,33 You must be chosen by Jehovah for Jesus to be you Mediator. Jesus can be intercessor. Jesus is mankind sacrifice. Jesus died for mankind. We go through Jesus to get to Jehovah. ( intercessor) The Mediator is for the spiritual nation. Christ bride, the 144000. 1 Pet 2:5 Today Jehovah is using a spiritual house to bless all of mankind. Gen 22:18 again the spiritual offspring of Abraham will bless mankind..
The word Mediator can be used as a synonym. For to go through Jesus in that sense( intercessor) the Mediator is for the new covenant between Jehovah and the New Jerusalem, Christ bride the 144000 Only. Rev 14:1. Rev 7:4
I loved the reference you made to buying a car! That was great!
None of them you call can listen. They are trained to oppose. None can concentrate. Ask what those scriptures mean that you quoted. Most don't even know their rules! Talk about the BODY, how ALL Christians who trust in Christ are part of the BODY.
The body of Christ - a living organism, not an organization! amen.
It never ceases to amaze me when they say to learn about what they believe. The irony is, ex JWs and non JWs are the ones who know FULLY about their beliefs!! They just fail to listen to what’s being said, and are programmed to say the same drivel to everyone, regardless of what’s being asked, it’s mind blowing!!!
It's sad but apostates know more about the teachings of WT than the actual JW's!
"We can go to other web sights as individuals" truth is.... "but none of us will because we are all in unison with the group think. We are no longer individuals."
I love the way you stun those witnesses talking about the Bible, something they truly believe knowing more anyone else. Poor Jdub lady who's been a JW her whole life (as she said) and still doesn't know that according to her leaders, Jesus is NOT her mediator. I really feel sorry for Jehovah's Witnesses (from and ex-JW).
I feel for them too! The WT removes the joy and blessings of Christianity, and leaves just rules, legalism, fear, guilt , WT works, etc. :(
The poor JW lady is all about pushing the Watchtower agenda and promoting the Watchtower website and literature. She utterly ignores and is unconcerned with the fact that Jesus is not her mediator.
Bridget: I again must say, your work is great. The lady you spoke with, seems open and you planted some deep seeds with her. Waking up is a process. One to think, after a few minutes talking with them,they down to their knees and accept Christ is not living in the real world. The lady said she is a JW all her life. To untie the ball of yarn will take some time. Bridget, you gave the Lady a good push in the right direction. God Bless.
Thanks for the kind encouragement! Yes, i agree with you - it's all about planting seeds, and praying others will water, and God will give the increase. (in His time!) God bless you too brother.
I love how JWs can not stand being witnessed to, how ironic :/
I also thought that there would have been more than 144,000 in the first century
In what sense? Oh brother!
“Jesus is the mediator only for anointed Christians. . . . The ‘great crowd’ . . . is not in that new covenant.” WT 4/ 1/ 1979, p. 31
Exactly the great crowd is not in the New covenant. The New covenant is for Christ bride, the New Jerusalem.the spiritual nation. Rev21:1,2. Matt 21:43 They are a spiritual house. 1 Pet 2:5 What is the New covenant for.? Luke 4:43. John 18:36 j
JW.org - no thanks!
JWS are sure they know it all after all, they have the truth!!!!!
Has membership increased at Calvary Chapel in Tucson Arizona?
lol. Seriously, probably no one knows, numbers are never talked about, and i go to one of the smaller services, the early one at 8.
@@bridgetazaz your videos have helped wake me up from Jehovah's Witnesses indoctrination and for that I am eternally grateful. Thank you! I desire to learn more about Jesus Christ.
I grew up in this cult, all three of my sister's and my father still in this. I can't help but feel like laughing at them. Part of me does feel as you. I left 30 yrs ago and they just now starting to talk to me. I know how they are, they think they all better than the world. I hear the lies they tell from your videos. It makes me mad.sorry
Sorry you lost so much time with your family. It's just pure evil, how the WT breaks up families. I can tell you that people outside the org still have NO idea about this...
She repeats "the society" as if she doesn't know what you mean....YES the society and you know what that is don't play dumb.
Dont be so negative...my wife says im being negative if i mention the ARC or the shunning...must not be negative ha ha
i noticed she put you on speaker phone, i hope you were able to get through to anyone listening, miracles happen every day
No,they are NOT all unified.That is why there are pimos! LOL
exactly! Does anyone really know how many there are?! :)
That is what brought me out. EX JW
You are awesome! I can't believe how stupid these people are
I laugh the whole time. keep up the good work
I think some Witnesses are intelligent, but the mind control methods are so slick and so powerful... i feel for them. -- i think having the web site now, has really lowered the level overall. I wonder if this is what the GB intended...or if the whole web site thing is backfiring on them.
I honestly feel that you could talk to the very last witness on the earth and you would be hard to find one that says, "Oh, yes, that's true Christine, Jesus is the mediator ONLY for the 144k." I've listened to many of your videos, and I think I might just fall over if you ever find a witness who knows that. But, hey, who knows.
maybe it was one i haven't posted, but i think i did hear it a few times. If they affirm that and are fine with it, all we can try to say is...then who is your Mediator? Doesn't that make the anointed your mediator? That is a logical conclusion from what the pubs say to keep in a good relationship with Jehovah, you must support the anointed and the Slave, blah blah.
Oh, so true. That's a good question too.
What I want to know is who is their mediator once Christ calls the 144k to heaven upon his return? Who then do the Great Crowd go through? We would not yet be perfect, so we can't talk to God directly right? Memorial is coming up, I am going to have ask an elder lol.
@@81eagle What was the response when you asked the elder that question?
It's amazing how many JW's don't know that Watchtower teaches that Christ is the Mediator for the 144,000 only. Two Elders used to give me 'Bible study', which is in reality Watchtower study. When I asked them if Christ is their Mediator they said that he is even though they were not of the 144,000. When I showed them the Watchtower 'Prince of Peace' book, page 10 that you mention in your video, they became confused and told me they would get back to me on this, which they never did. If JW's ever say that the teaching in the 'Prince of Peace' book is 'old light' and that Christ is their Mediator, point them to the JW.org website. Click on Publications, then click on Meeting Workbooks. Click on April 2017 and the scroll to Jehovah Foretold the New Covenant. You will see there that Watchtower still teaches that Christ is the Mediator for spiritual Israel, or the 144,000. Anyone not of the 144,000 is not in the New Covenant. In other words, Watchtower is still teaching that Christ is not the Mediator for the rank and file of JW's. Watchtower will not come out and say this in their magazines Watchtower or Awake, nor will you hear them saying this in the Kingdom Halls or on JW Broadcasting. Watchtower is afraid of openly broadcasting this to JW's because it knows that JW's believe that Christ is their Mediator. Openly announcing Watchtower's teaching that Christ is Mediator for the 144,000 only would be putting the cat amongst the pigeons.
This was screenshoted. Thanks to the Channel and you. This will be used against brainwashed J.Ws like my younger sister right here in Nigeria.
It's really disturbing WT keeps their own members in the dark to the point that they dont know what's going on in their own Org. Their doctrine is so confusing from all the flip flopping that the members become confused. It's really sad to see them defending their org. and don't realize they are being misled. So glad I left it all behind 20 yrs ago. Cheers!
I wonder which tribe of Israel are the governing body members are from and the former presidents?
You did so well, but that was up against a very unyielding indoctrinated mind.
In the Bible Jesus says " unless you drink my blood and eat my flesh , you have no life in you " ..John 6:53..so every year at their memorial at Easter time JW's give up their eternal life by refusing to do this..by just passing the bread and wine as opposed to eating and drinking it, they are
dooming themselves..oh, they will say that practice is only limited to the 144,000 anointed class..where is that in the Bible ??
R O B O T
Great video, i was thinking whethrr it would be worth saying that the born of God, forgiveness of sins etc is something that the Bible offers to those who believe, right now, not in the future, so clearly is not location related.
awesome point, Ray! I'll try to remember that one.
I looked up the scripture in 1 Peter, she started reading in verse 3, verse 1 is the introduction and it says to whom he is writing. He is writing to numerous places....and ALL those people clearly had the heavenly hope. Don't witnesses believe these people are also part of the 144,000? Looks like that small number would have gotten filled up pretty quickly.
This lady really isnt listening. Her answers are diversions and nonsense. She only parrots what the GB tells her. And when you inform her, she questions your motives. I feel sorry for her.
I think I will go onto jw.org and ask them if they know that the average jw knows what the organization teaches? This proves that they aren't interested in Truth, but only blindly follow the organization. Any sane person can see this. It's so, so sad because I have family in this cult and they won't listen to a SINGLE thing I have to say. They get angry and shut down if I bring something up and contradicts their teachings. So sad.
It would be hard to ask them at that web site, as they don't accept emails from the public. They also recently have said they don't take questions at their HQ any more, rather, ones with questions/concerns must write a snail mail letter! -- Have you ever read "combatting cult mind Control" by Steve Hassan? It talks a lot about trying to help family members, and explains why they are as you describe. It's frustrating isn't it, but way to try, because you CARE! God bless.
Thanks for the info. I will check that out. It is so amazing to me how these people won't listen to anything I have to say because of their presuppositions. It's almost like the organization has completely shut down the function of listening and thinking for themselves. I wonder how the Bereans ever did it?
They are taught to believe everyone not in the org, is controlled by Satan, and just trying to draw them away from "the truth" ie, the WT org.
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Dear Rich B. - As you have experienced and as Bridget has pointed out, JWs do not listen to anything anyone outside the organization has to say. What Bridget does well is to practise what is called the Socratic method. Ask questions so that the JW thinks that he or she is teaching you. If you can keep him or her answering your questions long enough he or she might see the contradictions in the Watchtower teachings. Once that nagging seed of doubt about the WTB&TS has been planted you have achieved a great victory.
Often the JW shuts down as soon as he or she realizes that he or she cannot proceed along the predetermined Watchtower path. That’s okay. A seed has been planted.
Adam - sin - death
Spiritually dead
Jesus Christ - mediator
Son of God is lamb of God
Reconciliation through only one who can redeemer because he is the way and light and truth and life
The children of God
Audio vs visual vs kinesthetic learners. That may be a factor in helping get past a blockage. At least this woman knows it is rude to hang up. As the other comment below states about texting, it is in view and may be reread. It must be stated at some point that JW is just one of several invented religions in US religious history, all of which came about during the same few years, as it was the going thing to invent your own religion. It was Jesus Christ who set the black captive forefathers free, due to their faith IN HIM. If any man be IN CHRIST, he is a new creation. Old things are passed away. Behold all things are made new. HOW COULD "the organization" set the captive free? Also, "the organization" doesn't set the captive free. The Bible talks about helping the "least of these." "The organization" ignores these instructions completely.
Gee-Ooffry Jackson Bridget Darling That how his name is pronounced ..Jeffery Not his name Dear !!..I Love u too pieces Tho ...She gonna ask u Have u been affiliated with JWs .Like it's so unbelievable that someone on the outside can know more about the Bible Then they Do!..lol!😂😂...I have noticed tho because I am a Black woman but Black women r very verbal and they listen longer than most. .Have u noticed that. not that it matters but I did Noticed!!....God Bless ur Heart Bridget u r one in a million!😘
JW they not christian
i agree, definitely not!
This makes me sad. You are telling her that it is in their own publications that Jesus is not her mediator and she absolutely refuses to believe it, even after you give her references from their current literature. I hope she looked it up
I hope so too.
Funny…JW’s believe in the Bible UNTIL it’s contradicts WT. they choose writings by mortal men who change “truth” constantly OVER the words of Christ himself.
How cultish
Why are you bent on proving the jws wrong? Its time to move on.do what the bible says and move on ! Don't miss understand me I agree with almost everything you present and I used to be a witness for 20+ yrs and left for different reasons but learning all this just reinforces my conviction.just be careful not to become obsessed with proving them wrong.otherwise you are being just like them ! Fyi a lot of wittneses are thinking they are going to return to true Christian teachings in time.just not there yet.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. God bless you!
Bridget... I'm not too sure why you're not bringing up 1st Corinthians chapter 15 verses 54 through 55 when they talk about living on Paradise Earth and when they bring up the scripture saying that death will be no more in the Book of Psalms and all tears will be wiped away... Paul says when the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable and the Mortal with immortality then the saying that is written will come true death has been swallowed up in Victory where o death is your Victory where o death is your sting
In fact in the New World Translation and uses the term this is when this saying takes place
First you can establish that the entire chapter of 15 is speaking of going to heaven and then bring in that's what Paul says
blackozzy...THANK you for that; that is really good! Will add it to my notes, and hopefully get a chance to use it in the future.
Jesus is mediator only for 144000 . Rev 14:1 Moses was only mediator for the nation of Israel.john 1:17 Gal 3:19 The New covenant is for a spiritual nation. John 1:11-13 the nation of Israel had first choice in the new covenant. Majority of Israel rejected Jesus as the messiah . This left a opening for the Gentiles ( non Jews)Acts 13:45,46. Acts 18:5,6 The New covenant is Jews and Gentiles who become born again Christians. Only 144000 rules with Christ. 144000 is Christ bride. Christ and his bride make up God kingdom or the New heaven.. Rev 21:2 You must remember the prophecy at Gen 22:18 Jehovah told Abraham by means of your offspring all nations will be bless. Abraham seed , Christ Jesus and those baptized in Christ , the 144000 born again Christians becomes Abraham seed. Gal 3:26-29 Once again christ Jesus and his bride make up the kingdom of God or the New heaven. The New heaven or God’s kingdom is the solution to all mankind problems. Rev 21:1-7 Matt 22:1-14 Many invited only a few chosen to go to heaven. ( 144000) Rev 14:1. Rev 7:4 Man home is planet earth. John 8:23 Only Jehovah choose who go to heaven.Rom 8;33
Thanks for sharing the WT view Malcolm.
bridget fromAZ that’s the Bible view. Jehovah plans for the earth has not changed. Ps 37 :9-11 Everyone can’t put themselves in heaven. You must be born again. You must be chosen by Jehovah. Rom 8:33
@@malcomjones2857 so when Jesus said unless anyine be born again he can NOT see the kingdom of God, you would say He didnt actually mean anyone?
@@malcomjones2857 you do preach the kingdom yes? Jesus says if you arent born again you wont see it. so ....what "kingdom" are you preaching? obviously one you wont see im guessing
Great Gatsby anyone that who is chosen. You must be chosen. Not everyone is chosen. Matt 22:14 Few chosen.
Jehovah is not name His name is Yahuwah and Jesus is not his name his name is Yahusua
amen!!!