Spent 4 months in India and saw Bajaj bikes everywhere. There's a strong emphasis on affordability, home servicing and repair for motorcycles in India, hence the relative simplicity of their range.
I am currently touring Mexico on my Himalayan. I have seen many of the three wheelers out in the villages. As far as two wheelers go, it's mostly the 200 cc Pulsar, but occasionally you will see the Dominar. I bigger cities you will find more than one Bajaj dealership, and at least one in smaller towns.
Never heard of them was Right..... but us American's would be last to pick up on an Indian company & before you said Kawasaki had done work w/ them, I was shaking my head at how sharp the bikes looked. I briefly wondered if maybe they had done like some Chinese & made a knock-off bike but they didn't have to which means they had the real deal in their bikes. That's an impressive deep dive into motorcycles & into the Corporate world of acquisitions/trades & smart deals that gave all involved a boost? Very good work, I learned a lot today! peace & be well GB
Worth noting from (the video says 2002, but my failing memory believed I saw Chetaks about in 1999) until 2008 Bajaj had a presence in the US selling their scooters and amazingly their tuk-tuks. They sold in the dozens, sadly.
With all their bikes/scooters, different partners and launching both private & collaborations, that number could've been any of their many offerings but I'd not heard of them in the US. They'd have hit NYCity/San Fran type places if anywhere & I did have a moped called a TOMOS Targa. A little 50cc bike that came w/ everything for the roads but 32mph wasn't that good so I added an exhaust & a better CDI which got me 10-12mph more on the top. After seeing how well this video was put together, I'm sure one could be made explaining how they missed the market here in the USA but I doubt it would be appreciated? Thanks for posting, peace
My children's first motorcycles were Bajaj Pulsar 180DTSi's. I was impressed with the high level of innovation and features on them. I bought a new Suzuki Gixxer 150 in 2017 which did not have backlit switch icons on the left and right hand grips, where the almost 10 year older Bajaj had these. Great video, thank you. More please....
Great video.! Definitely knew about this company but had no idea how big they actually are. As a note we also need to realize that part of their success has to do with some countries inflationary politics. People can’t afford products made in their own country. Labour is simply too expensive so Bajaj makes other brands so they are affordable in said countries they originated from. Good for them and good for buyers… not so good for brands and their employees who loose their jobs (KTM). As long as the quality is good… product will sell. I’m sure they will figure out the KTM issues.
I have ridden a Triumph 400 and it's an ok little bike. The fit and finish, is not quite on a par with Thai and British built Triumphs, but it's not too bad!
I own a KTM 390 made by Bajaj in UK and Dominar in India. The quality of both have been excellent, Even though they share the similar 373cc single engine; the character of both are remarkably different. The KTM 390 Duke is raucous, fast and the best fun I have ever had on two wheels. That includes a previously owned KTM 990 Adventure and Africa Twins (I’ve one two of those). The Bajaj Dominar 400 is larger and heavier and makes a refined touring bike. The motor is so smooth ad refined its hard to believe it's a single cylinder. However it's nowhere near as quick as the KTM. I’ve ridden 12,000kms on it, in much of south and west India. It handled the bad roads well and can excited 120kph on the motorways. You could never do that on an Enfield Bullet or earlier Himalayan. I’m surprised that such a competent motorbike as the Dominar is not on sale in Europe.
Cheers for adding this mate. It makes me wonder if they have a deal with Pierer mobility to not sell into Europe for now like hero did with Honda. But I can imagine it won’t be long before they do. Especially now the sun 400 sector is the only sector that is really growing in the U.K. and Europe
Thank you for that, it is a fascinating story. I had heard of Bajaj but had no idea the company was this big. Some good management and decision making involved, methinks.
This is because uk philosophy is get rich over night… interest only in wealth not service same as stupid ev …. 4 time the price when it gets here …… no wonder we have expensive transport
The trouble is market size, most small Bajaj bikes have such a small margin,they would not keep the lights on. One week of sales in India is a years sales in many other countries. Thats why they love to sell gs1300,s Ducatis, etc.
@@sommebuddy but the market and industry is changing (there’s a video called that I did well over a year ago) in the U.K. the only growing sector is sub 400cc bikes. But yes. If you can sell a triumph you build for more profit than you make selling a bajaj bike you would concentrate your efforts selling the triumph. Etc.
@@MrMoneyHelper I think it was 10,000Kms, so 6,000 in miles, it was like brand new, bear in mind vehicles in Malta hold value well, not like in UK. Cheers, DINO.
I love my little KTM RC390, I've been riding for around forty years and I don't remember having so much fun on two wheels. I've put 15,000 miles on it, mostly city riding with occasional short camping trips. I've never had mechanical problems, my only complaints are the small petrol tank and instability in very windy conditions,(tucking in and going faster cures this when possible!). By the way, My insurance company lists my bike as a Bajaj.
didn't expect that you would research deep enough to know about the notorious KTM riders in India a.k.a Chapri riders, everyone hates them and they are really ruining the image of such a good bike. Well done mate, solid video.
Glad you enjoyed it and the rest mate. Welcome Norway 😊 I know I have several subscribers there now. And some of the T-shirts were posted there recently too 😊 was that you by any chance?
I am from India, and I can vouch for the content of this video...Bajaj products are incredible value for money propositions...i used to ride a Pulsar 220 for about 7 years and it proved to be extremely reliable and tons of fun...eventually I replaced it with an automatic scooter due to the insufferable traffic of the city I lived in...missing it now though....
I rode a 2024 Duke 390 at a KTM demo day here in Canada. I really liked it. There are two CFMoto dealers in my city but I don't see any of those bikes on the road. CFMoto sells the four wheeled utility off road machines which is probably why they entered the market. Canada buys a total of about 60,000 motorcycles a year and I'm guessing that those sales are skewed to the higher end of the market. That can't be very interesting for a global maker of modestly priced smaller displacement bikes.
the CF Moto bikes have had a major push in most countries now. and i would have said same about the UK market a few years ago but this year, the only sector to grow was sub 400cc bikes 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
@@timhicks2154 in another year after they have unpacked ALL the MV tech??? CF Moto have already reworked the brutale engine and so it will go back to bajaj too
Honestly imo the only thing our so called government are interested in is lining their pockets. They don’t give a damn about anything else from what I see. Steel was given away to tata and the power network to the French
A quick fact. Hero motocorp is the biggest bike brand by volume and bajaj nowhere sells the same amount of bikes as hero yet bajaj makes more profit overall on bike sales... That's because of the reasons you included. But the main reason is their frugal approach. They are well know for using pre-existing parts on their new bikes. For example their new 400 cc bike which uses ktm 390 engine cost around 2300$ and ktm 390 is priced around 4000$. But the catch is bajaj's bike uses parts from their old bikes, frame, tank , seat , rear light, they're basically a bike LEGO company. I hate it though 😔
I've owned 2 Bajaj Motorcycles. They are known to be affordable, reliable and also come with styling. They weren't know for performance but reliable commuters. Things have changed majorly now where their machines can compete with world class motorcycles. Their build quality has also gone up. Although their brand is not as enticing anymore. I am referring to the Pulsar brand which feels a bit stuck in the past. Whereas KTM, Triumph and Aprillia partnerships seem to be putting out some state of the art stuff.
👍👍 @BAREBONESMC - Very informative as I also never heard of Bajaj. I'm a little surprised that I've never seen any Bajaj branded motorcycles here in Thailand during the past 20 years. Gotta admit it appears that bikes made in India are now of good quality that is comparable, I'm guessing, to Japanese brands. Royal Enfield and even Harley Davidson's smaller displacement _Street_ line of bikes come to mind. I do think Bajaj is going to have to introduce larger displacement bikes at some point though.
@@barebonesmc Speaking of "collecting the tech" it seems Bajaj may have been helping themselves to the original manufacturers' (KTM, Kawasaki, etc.) tech to quickly improve their own brand of bikes. Is so, I wonder how Bajaj is getting away with it.
We had them here in Malaysia, reliable & cheap but they are slow, spare parts are hard to find & not much options for modification. More people buy Chinese CFM, QJ, & Lifan .
Interested to find out more but I think it’ll take more than gas to make most people reconsider electric as the way forward. Now a gas powered hybrid electric might might cause bigger change
@@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav the quality looks to be there, but only time will tell. beside of Hero and RE how are the Bajaj bikes seen on reliability in India?
I guess Bajaj sell by price only. The TH-cam Channel 2UpAndOverloaded currently stars a Bajaj. Admittedly the bike is going through some quite rough tasks, but it regularly fails them. It's basically disintegrating. They named their Bajaj Dorko, I suggested Dorko Dingleberry as full name. Apparently Marissa and Tim liked the name. If I´m not mistaken, Dorko is a Pulsar 220. Carrying 2 people plus luggage is asking _a lot_ of such a small bike and apparently the engine is is the least of their worries. The frame has corrosion, recently several of the spokes in the rear wheel broke and the brakes failed. 😵💫 They wouldn´t need to ride through the most remote areas to have their Bajaj ride be an adventure!
They purchase a used one, not brand new, what would you expect. For any countrywide trip you normally refurbish your bike and replace wornout parts if it is a used one, which they did not do. And also purchased it from a random second hand dealer.
@@arjuna03 Kinga (OnHerBike) is travelling the world on a BMW F800GS that is well over 100000Km old. No cracking frames, no corrosion issues. German Motologger CaroUnterwegs has been across Europe a couple of times with her Honda Africa Twin RD07 that is approaching 200000km on the odo, earlier this years she took it to Morocco. Krikkosadventure has ridden her 2002 Honda TransAlp froms Sweden to Pakistan now, is going on to Nepal and without a doubt will get there and back. No, Bikes from other brands don't have to be new or refurbished every spring. They just last. Bajaj cost little money and the apparently last little time.
@@zweispurmopped You are living in your own world because your comment is so immature on this topic. 1. You'll get 10 pulsars for the cost of one of those Bikes you mentioned. 2. Watch series called "DominarPolarOdyssey" to know about long distance capabilities of Bajaj bikes. 3. Pulsar those couples riding is a commuter category bike, not an adventure bike with expensive parts. 4. You are commenting with so many assumptions of rotting chassis, you know what.. 200000 KM for a bike here in India is nothing (it is a fact).
@@arjuna03 1. So a Pulsar is 200€? That's a tenth of what Caro's RD 07 cost when she bought it used. 2. With enough work put into them, all pigs will fly. There are people who made race cars out out off the abomination that was the GDR's Trabant 601. There were Trabants that made hundreds of thousands of kilometres. …on dozens of engine swaps. That never made them good cars, they still were pieces of sh*t. 3. That is the point I give you. See 2., people commuted in Trabants. That was what they were made for. That necessity and the absence of alternatives made GDR citizens patch up these rotting things to last through another year, year by year. As I said: The Bajaj sell by price, not by qualities. Affordable tin donkeys. 4. And bet your bottom dollar that any technical examination standards like we have in Europe would make no more than 20000 of that, especially with what winters here do do vehicles. The total absence of Bajaj from the entire European market tells me that Bajaj don't even try to make their designs meet European standards for vehicle safety and environmental requirements. I remember the Mahindra Jeeps that were imported to Germany for some time in the Nineties. They sure are good for crawling over country roads where there are no real roads. Here in Germany, they were only just meeting the brake performance required by the StVZO, the legislation for standards for vehicles, requirements until passenger safety and environmental requirements for diesel engines got in power. That ended the Mahindra's very brief time here. You saw very few of them then, they are all gone now. On the Autobahn, these cars prove to be real death traps with no passive safety and no hope of keeping from slamming into other cars that were braking hard. I think only the Trabant performed worse in that respect. Others were braking hardly, these were hardly braking. And use offensive language like you did in my direction once again, and you'll get to know my ignore list. I´m not having that!
It helps your businesses if your country hasn't done everything possible to hamper your steel industries and raising the price of energy, all forms of it, which will absolutely cripple any manufacturer.
Oh yes, no doubt they’re coming. The fact that they’re closely working with several of the western brands in design and production is a testament of the times to come. The same goes for the chinese brands, that may be unknown to us by now, but wait and see. It can be seen on the E-cars from China, where the chinese has an aggressive marketing strategy. It’s very visible here in Denmark, where a big part of the sales of new cars are from China. BYD and MG being some og the leading brands together with Volvo. So I’m sure that we’ll se a developement in the sales of indian and chinese brands in the next five years. And it will without a doubt be very exiting.
Great wise words mate thanks. The MG cars seem to be doing well here in the U.K. And you only have to look at how cf Moto are drowning the media on bikes to see the effect of a heavy hitting marketing campaign 😊😊 thanks for adding this
i mentioned Hero briefly but yes you are right. i wish Hero would start exploring the Western Markets more 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
I might have missed it but are we saying that Bajaj manufacture some triumphs _in_ India for export back to the UK or do they make triumphs in India for sale in India to get round tariffs. ? Grateful for clarification and sorry if I blatantly missed it. 😊
Bajaj entered into a partnership with Triumph and makes all small capacity motorcycles at their Pune based facility under Triumph brand, which are exported to UK and other parts of the world...however the development and engineering part is done jointly with Triumph engineers from UK.... Speed 400, Scrambler X and now 400 T...all these products are really good and has already created quite a fan base here in India ...I for one is eyeing to own the 400T in the near future...
Bajaj and TVS are both Indian local brands, Bajaj is more of "disposable" brand, they release a new model every year and spares are hard to find, and they brake down in about 2-3 years, frame disintegrates due to rust, all the wiring rot away. TVS is more durable, most of their bikes last 5-10 years easy, and have more long term models.
Cheers for both these comments. It does seem from the people I know in India that there are very different views about bajaj. So you two both just illustrated that 😊👍 thanks
What are you talking man? one of my friend used a model called Bajaj 'CT-100' for almost 12 years and used to wash his bike once in two months or so. It still was his daily commuter all along.
@@arjuna03 cheers for the comment mate😊 I do find it interesting how among the Indian subscribers as well as my friends there. The bajaj bikes do seem to split opinions. I’ve had very few “yes they are ok” comments. It’s either i love em or I think they are terrible 😊
glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 Theres plenty more on the channel, hope you will look around and find something your interested in. there is more on the website too. and there will be more to come. Cheers for watching.Hope you will climb aboard. Ride Free 🙂
Husky, KTM, Gasgas, all not looking strong right now, and MV Augusta was never strong to begin with. Is it really good to be in bed with them? CF Moto could be good if they can prove to be reliable, and Triumph looks like a good bet right now, but the Pierer Mobility Group is not all roses as your video might suggest...
If you watched the previous videos you would know my opinions on PMG. But rather being in bed with them I actually see it as a slow steady takeover of a company with a lot that will help bajaj long term. In western markets. Working with cf Moto to do that. They just don’t have big bike experience or engineering on their own. Mv and ktm engineering gives them templates and more
Most interesting, hopefully the research wasn't too tiresome. Many Indian and Chinese manufacturers seem to purposfully make looking them up confusing and time-consuming. In post-communist Europe there are many brands which were either recently set up or reactivated after many years, but apart the laconic 'Made in China/India' nothing specific can be easily found. In fact, there are brands which openly say they are just selling bikes made in China AND India, and are sold through "not-dealerships". For example- in my town those bikes are being sold in the Husqvarna dealership- and that is the chainsaw and lawnmower Husqvarna, not the bike one.
Research wasn’t tiresome at all 😊 some bits harder to dig out than others. But it was interesting. I started it knowing the figures would melt someone’s brain but when I started getting to the real numbers even I was shocked to be honest
Two thoughts, because I’m feeling lazy: Image is everything. And as a self confessed trusted brand snob, who founded an advertising agency in the 1980s based upon corporate image construction, virtually everything about BAJAJ gives me what the kids these days are calling ‘the ick’. But the business story is indeed impressive. And when compared with my impossible to hide disgust at the lamentable state of British motorcycle brands, and British industry as a whole, I must confess to a degree of curiosity. But here’s the thing: I AM A HUGE BRAND SNOB, and my snobbery is based upon perceived respect - to such an extent that, of the Japanese motoring marques, I only respect Honda and Toyota. However, some Suzukis Yamahas and even Kawasakis have gained some acceptable status. Why? Because at some point in the past, all the others (except the defunct Bridgestone) have also given me ‘the ick’…! In some cases, a single early encounter has soured my perception, or the type of owner behaving out of order in some way. This is probably totally illogical, I’m aware of that. But by way of just one example, despite being popular with others, the training scheme Kawasaki 100 felt tinny to me, and was actually less reliable than the old BSA Bantam D7(?) that I first rode on the road. The. There were the Yammy Fizzer owners who seemed to lack a few brain cells - as they bragged about the amount of money it cost to repair their screaming mopeds after dropping them, and how much they were spending on finance each week…! My humble second hand Honda C50 was bought for cash from its first owner, a proper bloke in a waterproof raincoat, by the name of Bill. Bill wouldn’t buy a BAJAJ 👀 Ride safe and free. Peace 🏴
not only did a typo get me but youtube stifled my response lol there was more, weare allowed our snobbery and more mate 🙂 i wasnt trying to push them at all, i just find the way they have gone about their expansion very interesting, and they do seem very astute businessmen
@@barebonesmc I got that mate. I also concur. And I admire the way you maintain an open mind. It’s almost certainly a much healthier attitude to such matters. PS I spotted your typo, and immediately forgave it, mainly because responding with an interesting comment to everyone must be very time consuming. It’s one of the reasons why I don’t post vids. (Can you imagine how many people I’d alienate?) Had a mate who started and deleted several channels due to the time issues the stress of resolving conflicts and dealing with trolls. Ride safe and free Peace 🏴
I think it's a shame that they're not selling in the west at a good price. We need young riders who see motorcycles as a sensible transport option rather than daredevil recreation. The Triumph 400 sells for 10,000 Australian dollars in Australia, while it sells for the equivalent of 4200 in India. For 10,000 for dollars a young person can buy a good second hand car and carry passengers. The choice is easy for most and motorcycling is the loser again. It's a strange strategy from all the makers. Often people will stick with the same brand they learnt on. Honda exploited this in the 60s and 70s, with affordable entry level bikes that welcomed new riders into the brand, making a lifelong customer. People like me see the bike as the necessity, and the car as the luxury. Now in the west, it's the other way around, and when times are tough, it's the motorcycle that's passed over.
Imports are usually more expensive than their locally made counterparts. And for the car vs bike part, that choice is for the consumer to make. For reference, for the price that we'd pay for a top of the line Triumph 400 in India, one can buy a second hand Suzuki Swift instead - and carry passengers. So the equation remains balanced in that sense.
@@ayooshq I agree the first bit should be true but that’s where the complicated manufacturing chains cause havoc. Re the car v bike. Yes sort of. But apples and oranges 😊
the 400 speed are in germany ~5.600€ and the scrambler ~6.300€. the t120 ~13.500€, the t100 ~11.500€. a triumph press person explained the bajaj partnership, the price for the 400 would not be possible without bajaj and the target market is india with a population of 1.4 billions, they sell there more in a few days as in europe in a year.
Well, in the 50 and 125cc segments the Japanese already lost- mainly due to their government banning the sales of 50cc's and forcing the 125cc to confine to the limitations previously set on the 50cc, i.e. limiting the top speed to 30km/h.
Japanese already use engines made in china and India. Kawasaki and Yamaha have contracts with CFmoto. They will gradually move most of the production to China/India and have two lines of bikes like KTM and Triumph do.
I think they are following the same route that the Japanese did, starting with small cloned inexpensive models in large quantities for developing countries and it will increase from there. The way things are going in the UK I cannot see much of a future for motorcycling.
@@GeoffHalsey id agree on that, a mate who passed his bike test over 5 years ago is now taking his car test because his insurance will be cheaper on a car, bonkers
@@geneahart5607 i try and look on the bright side 🙂 its not always easy, but im hoping it does give the industry a shake up. it needs it. the industry has got lazy i think
Market cap has little to do on how you are perceived in the market. It shows how investors perceive your company, not unimportant but totally irrelevant to an enthusiast. I'll stick to my K, designed and manufactured in Germany and my VFR, designed and manufactured in Japan. From marques that both mean something to an enthusiast... Call me old fashioned, I take it as a compliment. No KTMs, Triumphs for me. In fact I sold my Jag when Tata bought the company, seriously. And for clear political reasons I avoid Chinese products. I try to buy as many European made products as I can. It is not always possible as even famous brands have moved production to countries that are in the end of the day enemies of the west. We should never forget that!
lol. Market cap might not drive buyers but as you say. It does drive investment 😊 the rest will come in time I’m sure. But in many ways our markets are tiny and insignificant to them. We just don’t matter that much anymore. As to enemies of the west. I think in general we are our own worst enemy 😊 why is India an enemy of the west?
I wouldn't be so quick to throw about the term "enemies", they are competitors. We are all competitors. Even when we were in the EU we were competing for investment and economic success with our European neighbours, despite the cooperation that the project has fostered.
@@pauln6803 China, just 1 example, is NOT a competitor. It is an enemy. The CCP is not a friend of the western world. I know the difference very well. I'm no neo liberal so I give things and people their proper name, in case of China (and many more states) enemy is the proper description! It's high time we wake up!
K stands for the BMW K model? You are sure that all parts and buildings is done in Germany? bmw group werke: (and more) VOM STANDORT ZUM LEITWERK. Seit 1969 werden BMW Motorräder in Berlin produziert. ... MONTAGEWERK RAYONG THAILAND. Seit 2014 werden im Montagewerk Rayong BMW Motorräder produziert. ... MONTAGEWERK MANAUS BRASILIEN. ... AUFTRAGSFERTIGUNG LONCIN CHINA. ... AUFTRAGSFERTIGUNG TVS INDIEN.
KTM has actually a camshaft gate, it could wear out in the first thousand km. no garantie and the costs could reach a few thousands euro. Bajaj could mess up the KTM image easily and grow their own bikes without the weak camshafts.
@barebonesmc 1st engine rebuild - piston rings melted at just 2300 miles. 2nd rebuild was when the exhaust vavle dropped and smashed the pisto at 8900 miles, all under ktm warranty, sold it as soon the warranty was over 😄
Near the end of the video you mention that for every Bajaj sold that unit brings in more than every Triumph unit (400?) Consider the wages paid to workers, No? If you dont compensate the workers you are a company that is LESS not more
Not sure that came across right. What I was saying is that for every Triumph sold. Bajaj make more than Triumph. Triumph set the pricing and Triumph signed the deal with bajaj. As to how well bajaj pay their staff. That is a different story. Remember that cost of living is very much lower in India too. So although we may see their wages as low. In relation to cost of living they may not be. They may actually give those workers better comparable wages than they could otherwise get. Now I’m not saying they do. I’m just saying I don’t know. As to passing on profits to the workers I agree entirely. But unfortunately that rarely happens now with any companies driven by shareholders wherever they are based. Sad but true. I would love to know of any company you think does do that now? Cheers for such a thought provoking comment 😊👌
@@barebonesmcwith a 1000 USD per month salary, you can live upper middle class/beginner rich lifestyle in india with maid and servents. when looking at income in india, people often seems to forget that it's incredibly cheap to live in india specially if you not living in the over crowded , over populated tier 1 cities like delhi mumbai etc. you could eat a full meal in under 50 rupees( about 50 cents)
There's a trading body that represents the largest economic, population nos and development potential, and its name is BRICS. The New "New World" is creating its own "Order", and it has rejected the cultish(Kaballistic) parasititez of the Old "New", and the old "Old" worlds.... Go India! ❤😊
'Kaballistic'?!? Do you reckon that a more sophisticated way of saying 'Jew', craigywaigy? Now if you'd care to change the spelling to 'Caballistic', we can take you off the little black moustache man fanbois and pedo club members list. 🤔
this is no PR but reality. i assume that there are agreements not to sale bajaj bikes in europe to prevent direct competition but in a short time the triumph technology/style will be available as bajaj models. afair Vespa and Kawasaki have no longer a partnership with bajaj and learned the lesson.
@@shremich4583 cheers for the support mate😊 and yep. Bajaj don’t have the goodwill Hero would. Even when Honda broke their agreement Hero stuck to it and still sadly show no signs of selling in Europe and the US.
@@barebonesmcThanks for your hard work making this video, Bajaj is just one of many Indian conglomerates look at Tata who own JLR and that just a small part of their business.
Bajaj have been around for decades. No problems with company. However object like hell when likes of triumph, ktm, piagio, etc get bikes built there and then try peddling them in western countries, badged as western makes, marketed at western prices! Mahindra doing same with BSA!
@@AbhinavGupta-gr5uy the Norton hasn’t had any real r and d for many years and the triumph 400 had all the r and d done by bajaj despite what triumph may say
Spent 4 months in India and saw Bajaj bikes everywhere. There's a strong emphasis on affordability, home servicing and repair for motorcycles in India, hence the relative simplicity of their range.
Same in Africa too. Probably the biggest sellers now there
I am currently touring Mexico on my Himalayan. I have seen many of the three wheelers out in the villages. As far as two wheelers go, it's mostly the 200 cc Pulsar, but occasionally you will see the Dominar. I bigger cities you will find more than one Bajaj dealership, and at least one in smaller towns.
They are manufacturing there as well now I believe 😊
Never heard of them was Right..... but us American's would be last to pick up on an Indian company & before you said
Kawasaki had done work w/ them, I was shaking my head at how sharp the bikes looked. I briefly wondered if maybe
they had done like some Chinese & made a knock-off bike but they didn't have to which means they had the real deal in
their bikes. That's an impressive deep dive into motorcycles & into the Corporate world of acquisitions/trades & smart
deals that gave all involved a boost? Very good work, I learned a lot today! peace & be well GB
Worth noting from (the video says 2002, but my failing memory believed I saw Chetaks about in 1999) until 2008 Bajaj had a presence in the US selling their scooters and amazingly their tuk-tuks. They sold in the dozens, sadly.
With all their bikes/scooters, different partners and launching both private & collaborations, that number could've
been any of their many offerings but I'd not heard of them in the US. They'd have hit NYCity/San Fran type places
if anywhere & I did have a moped called a TOMOS Targa. A little 50cc bike that came w/ everything for the roads
but 32mph wasn't that good so I added an exhaust & a better CDI which got me 10-12mph more on the top. After
seeing how well this video was put together, I'm sure one could be made explaining how they missed the market
here in the USA but I doubt it would be appreciated? Thanks for posting, peace
Interesting that they sold to the USA 😊 I’ll try and see what I can find 😊
@@barebonesmc Please do. Since becoming an Enfield fanboy I've bumbled around trying to find something out, but without success.
@@stanwbaker nothing obvious si it may take time 🙂
My children's first motorcycles were Bajaj Pulsar 180DTSi's. I was impressed with the high level of innovation and features on them. I bought a new Suzuki Gixxer 150 in 2017 which did not have backlit switch icons on the left and right hand grips, where the almost 10 year older Bajaj had these. Great video, thank you. More please....
Welcome aboard my friend 😊 cheers for the support
Great video.! Definitely knew about this company but had no idea how big they actually are. As a note we also need to realize that part of their success has to do with some countries inflationary politics. People can’t afford products made in their own country. Labour is simply too expensive so Bajaj makes other brands so they are affordable in said countries they originated from. Good for them and good for buyers… not so good for brands and their employees who loose their jobs (KTM). As long as the quality is good… product will sell. I’m sure they will figure out the KTM issues.
Wise words 😊👌
I have ridden a Triumph 400 and it's an ok little bike.
The fit and finish, is not quite on a par with Thai and British built Triumphs, but it's not too bad!
Cheers for adding mate. Sounds like one of the more balanced views I’ve heard😊
Hmmmmm..... This man makes some real deal videos. I should subscribe to him.
Welcome aboard mate, enjoy the ride and cheers for the support
I own a KTM 390 made by Bajaj in UK and Dominar in India. The quality of both have been excellent, Even though they share the similar 373cc single engine; the character of both are remarkably different.
The KTM 390 Duke is raucous, fast and the best fun I have ever had on two wheels. That includes a previously owned KTM 990 Adventure and Africa Twins (I’ve one two of those).
The Bajaj Dominar 400 is larger and heavier and makes a refined touring bike. The motor is so smooth ad refined its hard to believe it's a single cylinder. However it's nowhere near as quick as the KTM. I’ve ridden 12,000kms on it, in much of south and west India. It handled the bad roads well and can excited 120kph on the motorways. You could never do that on an Enfield Bullet or earlier Himalayan.
I’m surprised that such a competent motorbike as the Dominar is not on sale in Europe.
Cheers for adding this mate. It makes me wonder if they have a deal with Pierer mobility to not sell into Europe for now like hero did with Honda. But I can imagine it won’t be long before they do. Especially now the sun 400 sector is the only sector that is really growing in the U.K. and Europe
Great video really interesting thanks.hi from New Zealand 🇳🇿
🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
Thank you for that, it is a fascinating story. I had heard of Bajaj but had no idea the company was this big. Some good management and decision making involved, methinks.
Glad you enjoyed it mate. And yes. They seem very astute and more longsightedness than many today
It's a pity the UK doesn't get a better choice of smaller capacity bike available in other countries.
True words mate
This is because uk philosophy is get rich over night… interest only in wealth not service same as stupid ev …. 4 time the price when it gets here …… no wonder we have expensive transport
@@kola100well put 😊😊
The trouble is market size, most small Bajaj bikes have such a small margin,they would not keep the lights on. One week of sales in India is a years sales in many other countries. Thats why they love to sell gs1300,s Ducatis, etc.
@@sommebuddy but the market and industry is changing (there’s a video called that I did well over a year ago) in the U.K. the only growing sector is sub 400cc bikes. But yes. If you can sell a triumph you build for more profit than you make selling a bajaj bike you would concentrate your efforts selling the triumph. Etc.
LOVED my Duke 390, 2015 model, sold it in 2023 for nearly what I paid for it, no faults or issues, new owner very pleased too! Cheers, DINO.
Cheers for adding this mate and welcome aboard
How many miles did it have when you sold it?
@@MrMoneyHelper I think it was 10,00 Kms
@@MrMoneyHelper I think it was 10,000Kms, so 6,000 in miles, it was like brand new, bear in mind vehicles in Malta hold value well, not like in UK. Cheers, DINO.
I love my little KTM RC390, I've been riding for around forty years and I don't remember having so much fun on two wheels. I've put 15,000 miles on it, mostly city riding with occasional short camping trips. I've never had mechanical problems, my only complaints are the small petrol tank and instability in very windy conditions,(tucking in and going faster cures this when possible!).
By the way, My insurance company lists my bike as a Bajaj.
As I say. If it makes you smile that’s all that matters 😊😊
didn't expect that you would research deep enough to know about the notorious KTM riders in India a.k.a Chapri riders, everyone hates them and they are really ruining the image of such a good bike.
Well done mate, solid video.
Namaste ji 😊 I do my best 😊
I like all of your videos👍🌹 Greetings from Norway
Glad you enjoyed it and the rest mate. Welcome Norway 😊 I know I have several subscribers there now. And some of the T-shirts were posted there recently too 😊 was that you by any chance?
Thanks for sharing brother.
My pleasure mate
I am from India, and I can vouch for the content of this video...Bajaj products are incredible value for money propositions...i used to ride a Pulsar 220 for about 7 years and it proved to be extremely reliable and tons of fun...eventually I replaced it with an automatic scooter due to the insufferable traffic of the city I lived in...missing it now though....
Cheers for adding this mate. Personal experience is always great. Welcome aboard
I rode a 2024 Duke 390 at a KTM demo day here in Canada. I really liked it. There are two CFMoto dealers in my city but I don't see any of those bikes on the road. CFMoto sells the four wheeled utility off road machines which is probably why they entered the market. Canada buys a total of about 60,000 motorcycles a year and I'm guessing that those sales are skewed to the higher end of the market. That can't be very interesting for a global maker of modestly priced smaller displacement bikes.
the CF Moto bikes have had a major push in most countries now. and i would have said same about the UK market a few years ago but this year, the only sector to grow was sub 400cc bikes 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
Very interesting. I had heard of BAJAJ previously
Thanks for watching mate. I don’t think most people realise how big they really are. The numbers even shocked me
@@barebonesmc - they are a major force in the motorcycle world.
@@timhicks2154 in another year after they have unpacked ALL the MV tech??? CF Moto have already reworked the brutale engine and so it will go back to bajaj too
Bijaj would be more interesting if any of their bikes had a good rep for quality fit/manufacture and reliability....
I have limited first hand experience on this one but as you can see. Our Indian contingent seems split on it. Some very different experiences
@@barebonesmc - here in the USA, we mostly see KTM's, and mostly, we see them in the shop broken, and waiting for parts.
@@floydblandston108 harsh but true lol
While here in the UK our government are busy killing what's left of our motor industry in the name of climate change 😢
Honestly imo the only thing our so called government are interested in is lining their pockets. They don’t give a damn about anything else from what I see. Steel was given away to tata and the power network to the French
That was a very good one mate.publicly traded ? I wonder who the biggest shareholders are and who really calls the shots in final analysis
That’s a whole other question 😊😊
@@barebonesmc no shit sherlock ! Lol it's everywhere.
@@joesutherland225go on tell me then 😊😊
when I was in the East the word "Bajaj" meant: a motorbike ;-)
Cheers for adding your comment mate😊👍
A quick fact. Hero motocorp is the biggest bike brand by volume and bajaj nowhere sells the same amount of bikes as hero yet bajaj makes more profit overall on bike sales... That's because of the reasons you included. But the main reason is their frugal approach. They are well know for using pre-existing parts on their new bikes. For example their new 400 cc bike which uses ktm 390 engine cost around 2300$ and ktm 390 is priced around 4000$. But the catch is bajaj's bike uses parts from their old bikes, frame, tank , seat , rear light, they're basically a bike LEGO company. I hate it though 😔
As I said near the end of depending what metric is used they are behind some and ahead of others 😊
Thanks!
Cheers mate 👍
I've owned 2 Bajaj Motorcycles. They are known to be affordable, reliable and also come with styling. They weren't know for performance but reliable commuters. Things have changed majorly now where their machines can compete with world class motorcycles. Their build quality has also gone up. Although their brand is not as enticing anymore. I am referring to the Pulsar brand which feels a bit stuck in the past. Whereas KTM, Triumph and Aprillia partnerships seem to be putting out some state of the art stuff.
Thanks for sharing this mate. Much appreciated 😊👍💪
👍👍 @BAREBONESMC - Very informative as I also never heard of Bajaj. I'm a little surprised that I've never seen any Bajaj branded motorcycles here in Thailand during the past 20 years. Gotta admit it appears that bikes made in India are now of good quality that is comparable, I'm guessing, to Japanese brands. Royal Enfield and even Harley Davidson's smaller displacement _Street_ line of bikes come to mind. I do think Bajaj is going to have to introduce larger displacement bikes at some point though.
Give them time😊 they are collecting the tech 😊
@@barebonesmc Speaking of "collecting the tech" it seems Bajaj may have been helping themselves to the original manufacturers' (KTM, Kawasaki, etc.) tech to quickly improve their own brand of bikes. Is so, I wonder how Bajaj is getting away with it.
@@Jimbo-in-Thailand money talks as they say
We had them here in Malaysia, reliable & cheap but they are slow, spare parts are hard to find & not much options for modification. More people buy Chinese CFM, QJ, & Lifan .
@@silverianjannvs5315cheers for adding mate 😊 you have more low capacity choices there than we do 😊
Bajaj recently launched a petrol + cng bike, first in the world and they are also into electric scooters...
Interested to find out more but I think it’ll take more than gas to make most people reconsider electric as the way forward. Now a gas powered hybrid electric might might cause bigger change
I'm stunned. 1st thing Monday, I'm calling my broker to see if Bajaj or RE is a better investment....
I think they’ve both got a better insight than many better known brands in many ways
When do we get Quality ??
I guess the triumph 400s will show that side a bit more. Who knows tbh. My Indian friends seem a bit split on bajaj 😊
@@barebonesmc yup they really have shown they can produce some quality stuff with their new triumph 400 series.
@@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav the quality looks to be there, but only time will tell. beside of Hero and RE how are the Bajaj bikes seen on reliability in India?
I guess Bajaj sell by price only. The TH-cam Channel 2UpAndOverloaded currently stars a Bajaj. Admittedly the bike is going through some quite rough tasks, but it regularly fails them. It's basically disintegrating. They named their Bajaj Dorko, I suggested Dorko Dingleberry as full name. Apparently Marissa and Tim liked the name. If I´m not mistaken, Dorko is a Pulsar 220. Carrying 2 people plus luggage is asking _a lot_ of such a small bike and apparently the engine is is the least of their worries. The frame has corrosion, recently several of the spokes in the rear wheel broke and the brakes failed. 😵💫 They wouldn´t need to ride through the most remote areas to have their Bajaj ride be an adventure!
I’ll have a look. Sounds interesting 😊
They purchase a used one, not brand new, what would you expect.
For any countrywide trip you normally refurbish your bike and replace wornout parts if it is a used one, which they did not do. And also purchased it from a random second hand dealer.
@@arjuna03 Kinga (OnHerBike) is travelling the world on a BMW F800GS that is well over 100000Km old. No cracking frames, no corrosion issues. German Motologger CaroUnterwegs has been across Europe a couple of times with her Honda Africa Twin RD07 that is approaching 200000km on the odo, earlier this years she took it to Morocco. Krikkosadventure has ridden her 2002 Honda TransAlp froms Sweden to Pakistan now, is going on to Nepal and without a doubt will get there and back.
No, Bikes from other brands don't have to be new or refurbished every spring. They just last. Bajaj cost little money and the apparently last little time.
@@zweispurmopped You are living in your own world because your comment is so immature on this topic.
1. You'll get 10 pulsars for the cost of one of those Bikes you mentioned.
2. Watch series called "DominarPolarOdyssey" to know about long distance capabilities of Bajaj bikes.
3. Pulsar those couples riding is a commuter category bike, not an adventure bike with expensive parts.
4. You are commenting with so many assumptions of rotting chassis, you know what.. 200000 KM for a bike here in India is nothing (it is a fact).
@@arjuna03
1. So a Pulsar is 200€? That's a tenth of what Caro's RD 07 cost when she bought it used.
2. With enough work put into them, all pigs will fly. There are people who made race cars out out off the abomination that was the GDR's Trabant 601. There were Trabants that made hundreds of thousands of kilometres. …on dozens of engine swaps. That never made them good cars, they still were pieces of sh*t.
3. That is the point I give you. See 2., people commuted in Trabants. That was what they were made for. That necessity and the absence of alternatives made GDR citizens patch up these rotting things to last through another year, year by year.
As I said: The Bajaj sell by price, not by qualities. Affordable tin donkeys.
4. And bet your bottom dollar that any technical examination standards like we have in Europe would make no more than 20000 of that, especially with what winters here do do vehicles. The total absence of Bajaj from the entire European market tells me that Bajaj don't even try to make their designs meet European standards for vehicle safety and environmental requirements.
I remember the Mahindra Jeeps that were imported to Germany for some time in the Nineties. They sure are good for crawling over country roads where there are no real roads. Here in Germany, they were only just meeting the brake performance required by the StVZO, the legislation for standards for vehicles, requirements until passenger safety and environmental requirements for diesel engines got in power. That ended the Mahindra's very brief time here. You saw very few of them then, they are all gone now. On the Autobahn, these cars prove to be real death traps with no passive safety and no hope of keeping from slamming into other cars that were braking hard. I think only the Trabant performed worse in that respect. Others were braking hardly, these were hardly braking.
And use offensive language like you did in my direction once again, and you'll get to know my ignore list. I´m not having that!
It helps your businesses if your country hasn't done everything possible to hamper your steel industries and raising the price of energy, all forms of it, which will absolutely cripple any manufacturer.
We just gave ours away to tata and France 😂😂 you couldn’t make it up 😂😂
@barebonesmc my point exactly.
@@sadwingsraging3044 yep. N you aren’t the only one saying similar mate
Oh yes, no doubt they’re coming.
The fact that they’re closely working with several of the western brands in design and production is a testament of the times to come. The same goes for the chinese brands, that may be unknown to us by now, but wait and see.
It can be seen on the E-cars from China, where the chinese has an aggressive marketing strategy. It’s very visible here in Denmark, where a big part of the sales of new cars are from China. BYD and MG being some og the leading brands together with Volvo.
So I’m sure that we’ll se a developement in the sales of indian and chinese brands in the next five years.
And it will without a doubt be very exiting.
Great wise words mate thanks. The MG cars seem to be doing well here in the U.K. And you only have to look at how cf Moto are drowning the media on bikes to see the effect of a heavy hitting marketing campaign 😊😊 thanks for adding this
Another Indian motorcycle Behemoth is Hero motors, just like Bajaj was in partnership with Kawasaki, Hero had a JV with Honda.
i mentioned Hero briefly but yes you are right. i wish Hero would start exploring the Western Markets more 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
@@barebonesmc and the 3rd largest manufacturer is TVS. Their Apache range is quite popular in India
@@MrDebranjandutta but if TVS owned Triumph why arent they manufacturing the 400? i hadnt heard of any deals there?
Ktm gee arent they having problems on service and warranty side last few years too? Just saying.
many issues, PMG just sacked half the board, more changes coming 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
I’ve bought the Triumph Scrambler 400X and it’s truly the funnest bike I’ve ever owned.
Tell me more mate😊 fit and finish once you are past the outside? Mileage? Pity we have to pay nearly twice as much as they sell for there though
I might have missed it but are we saying that Bajaj manufacture some triumphs _in_ India for export back to the UK or do they make triumphs in India for sale in India to get round tariffs. ?
Grateful for clarification and sorry if I blatantly missed it. 😊
They make all the 400s for sale worldwide. It’s a bajaj bike with a triumph dress on it. There’s a full video marked battle of the brits
all triumph 400s are made by bajaj , same with all the KTMs till 390 series.
@@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav we must have said that at the same time 🙂
Bajaj entered into a partnership with Triumph and makes all small capacity motorcycles at their Pune based facility under Triumph brand, which are exported to UK and other parts of the world...however the development and engineering part is done jointly with Triumph engineers from UK.... Speed 400, Scrambler X and now 400 T...all these products are really good and has already created quite a fan base here in India ...I for one is eyeing to own the 400T in the near future...
@@VimalRaju-m7u cheers for adding you bit mate, I know one of the guys who was working on the electronics 🙂
Bajaj and TVS are both Indian local brands, Bajaj is more of "disposable" brand, they release a new model every year and spares are hard to find, and they brake down in about 2-3 years, frame disintegrates due to rust, all the wiring rot away.
TVS is more durable, most of their bikes last 5-10 years easy, and have more long term models.
You high bro?
Cheers for both these comments. It does seem from the people I know in India that there are very different views about bajaj. So you two both just illustrated that 😊👍 thanks
What are you talking man? one of my friend used a model called Bajaj 'CT-100' for almost 12 years and used to wash his bike once in two months or so. It still was his daily commuter all along.
@@arjuna03 cheers for the comment mate😊 I do find it interesting how among the Indian subscribers as well as my friends there. The bajaj bikes do seem to split opinions. I’ve had very few “yes they are ok” comments. It’s either i love em or I think they are terrible 😊
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glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 Theres plenty more on the channel, hope you will look around and find something your interested in. there is more on the website too. and there will be more to come. Cheers for watching.Hope you will climb aboard. Ride Free 🙂
Husky, KTM, Gasgas, all not looking strong right now, and MV Augusta was never strong to begin with. Is it really good to be in bed with them? CF Moto could be good if they can prove to be reliable, and Triumph looks like a good bet right now, but the Pierer Mobility Group is not all roses as your video might suggest...
If you watched the previous videos you would know my opinions on PMG. But rather being in bed with them I actually see it as a slow steady takeover of a company with a lot that will help bajaj long term. In western markets. Working with cf Moto to do that. They just don’t have big bike experience or engineering on their own. Mv and ktm engineering gives them templates and more
KTM are expensive, the 3 wheelers are cheap but all KTM bikes are $3-7 k USD than almost all other brands, except BMW
prices are dropping as problems pile up 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
Most interesting, hopefully the research wasn't too tiresome.
Many Indian and Chinese manufacturers seem to purposfully make looking them up confusing and time-consuming. In post-communist Europe there are many brands which were either recently set up or reactivated after many years, but apart the laconic 'Made in China/India' nothing specific can be easily found. In fact, there are brands which openly say they are just selling bikes made in China AND India, and are sold through "not-dealerships". For example- in my town those bikes are being sold in the Husqvarna dealership- and that is the chainsaw and lawnmower Husqvarna, not the bike one.
Research wasn’t tiresome at all 😊 some bits harder to dig out than others. But it was interesting. I started it knowing the figures would melt someone’s brain but when I started getting to the real numbers even I was shocked to be honest
Two thoughts, because I’m feeling lazy:
Image is everything. And as a self confessed trusted brand snob, who founded an advertising agency in the 1980s based upon corporate image construction, virtually everything about BAJAJ gives me what the kids these days are calling ‘the ick’.
But the business story is indeed impressive. And when compared with my impossible to hide disgust at the lamentable state of British motorcycle brands, and British industry as a whole, I must confess to a degree of curiosity.
But here’s the thing: I AM A HUGE BRAND SNOB, and my snobbery is based upon perceived respect - to such an extent that, of the Japanese motoring marques, I only respect Honda and Toyota. However, some Suzukis Yamahas and even Kawasakis have gained some acceptable status.
Why? Because at some point in the past, all the others (except the defunct Bridgestone) have also given me ‘the ick’…!
In some cases, a single early encounter has soured my perception, or the type of owner behaving out of order in some way.
This is probably totally illogical, I’m aware of that. But by way of just one example, despite being popular with others, the training scheme Kawasaki 100 felt tinny to me, and was actually less reliable than the old BSA Bantam D7(?) that I first rode on the road.
The. There were the Yammy Fizzer owners who seemed to lack a few brain cells - as they bragged about the amount of money it cost to repair their screaming mopeds after dropping them, and how much they were spending on finance each week…!
My humble second hand Honda C50 was bought for cash from its first owner, a proper bloke in a waterproof raincoat, by the name of Bill.
Bill wouldn’t buy a BAJAJ 👀
Ride safe and free.
Peace 🏴
Wow that’s an epic mate 🤣💪
not only did a typo get me but youtube stifled my response lol there was more, weare allowed our snobbery and more mate 🙂 i wasnt trying to push them at all, i just find the way they have gone about their expansion very interesting, and they do seem very astute businessmen
@@barebonesmc I got that mate. I also concur. And I admire the way you maintain an open mind. It’s almost certainly a much healthier attitude to such matters.
PS
I spotted your typo, and immediately forgave it, mainly because responding with an interesting comment to everyone must be very time consuming. It’s one of the reasons why I don’t post vids. (Can you imagine how many people I’d alienate?) Had a mate who started and deleted several channels due to the time issues the stress of resolving conflicts and dealing with trolls.
Ride safe and free
Peace 🏴
I think it's a shame that they're not selling in the west at a good price. We need young riders who see motorcycles as a sensible transport option rather than daredevil recreation.
The Triumph 400 sells for 10,000 Australian dollars in Australia, while it sells for the equivalent of 4200 in India. For 10,000 for dollars a young person can buy a good second hand car and carry passengers. The choice is easy for most and motorcycling is the loser again.
It's a strange strategy from all the makers. Often people will stick with the same brand they learnt on. Honda exploited this in the 60s and 70s, with affordable entry level bikes that welcomed new riders into the brand, making a lifelong customer. People like me see the bike as the necessity, and the car as the luxury. Now in the west, it's the other way around, and when times are tough, it's the motorcycle that's passed over.
Blame all the politicians everywhere. 😡🤣😡🤣😡 they all have tariff systems designed to protect them and certainly not to work in our interests
Imports are usually more expensive than their locally made counterparts. And for the car vs bike part, that choice is for the consumer to make.
For reference, for the price that we'd pay for a top of the line Triumph 400 in India, one can buy a second hand Suzuki Swift instead - and carry passengers.
So the equation remains balanced in that sense.
@@ayooshq I agree the first bit should be true but that’s where the complicated manufacturing chains cause havoc. Re the car v bike. Yes sort of. But apples and oranges 😊
the 400 speed are in germany ~5.600€ and the scrambler ~6.300€.
the t120 ~13.500€, the t100 ~11.500€.
a triumph press person explained the bajaj partnership, the price for the 400 would not be possible without bajaj and the target market is india with a population of 1.4 billions, they sell there more in a few days as in europe in a year.
@@shremich4583 2600 euro in India. They're still making a profit on that, and includes 28% GST
The Japanese better watch out. The price and quality of the India and Chinese motorcycles are really going to give them a hard time soon.
Well, in the 50 and 125cc segments the Japanese already lost- mainly due to their government banning the sales of 50cc's and forcing the 125cc to confine to the limitations previously set on the 50cc, i.e. limiting the top speed to 30km/h.
I think they are already giving them a big headache. Markets once dominated by Japanese have already shifted
@@jeremiaas15 😮
Japanese already use engines made in china and India. Kawasaki and Yamaha have contracts with CFmoto. They will gradually move most of the production to China/India and have two lines of bikes like KTM and Triumph do.
@@constantinosschinas4503don’t forget Mexico Brazil Indonesia Malaysia Thailand and Vietnam 😊😊 but they all have their own ways of operating 😊😊
I think they are following the same route that the Japanese did, starting with small cloned inexpensive models in large quantities for developing countries and it will increase from there. The way things are going in the UK I cannot see much of a future for motorcycling.
I’ll not give up promoting the life though 😊
For the under 25's Insurance is the killer in the UK. Even after 25, insurance for performance bikes is eye watering.
@@GeoffHalsey id agree on that, a mate who passed his bike test over 5 years ago is now taking his car test because his insurance will be cheaper on a car, bonkers
the comment re dirty garage guy isnt showing lol, know that i didnt delete it, it isnt my way, but each to their own 🙂
Triumph is better than Royal Enfield.way better
Better in what way? Remember what suits one doesn’t necessarily suit someone else😊
@barebonesmc friends don't let friends ride junk
@@stewart8127anyone can ride whatever they like for me😊 one man’s junk is another man’s treasure 😊
This whole story is quite the bummer. I'm not inspired.
It wasn’t about inspiring people 😊 it was about understanding the real situation in a way people don’t usually see
@barebonesmc I know what it's about and I find that depressing, thanks for the heads-up.
@@geneahart5607 i try and look on the bright side 🙂 its not always easy, but im hoping it does give the industry a shake up. it needs it. the industry has got lazy i think
Market cap has little to do on how you are perceived in the market. It shows how investors perceive your company, not unimportant but totally irrelevant to an enthusiast. I'll stick to my K, designed and manufactured in Germany and my VFR, designed and manufactured in Japan. From marques that both mean something to an enthusiast... Call me old fashioned, I take it as a compliment. No KTMs, Triumphs for me. In fact I sold my Jag when Tata bought the company, seriously. And for clear political reasons I avoid Chinese products. I try to buy as many European made products as I can. It is not always possible as even famous brands have moved production to countries that are in the end of the day enemies of the west. We should never forget that!
lol. Market cap might not drive buyers but as you say. It does drive investment 😊 the rest will come in time I’m sure. But in many ways our markets are tiny and insignificant to them. We just don’t matter that much anymore. As to enemies of the west. I think in general we are our own worst enemy 😊 why is India an enemy of the west?
I wouldn't be so quick to throw about the term "enemies", they are competitors.
We are all competitors.
Even when we were in the EU we were competing for investment and economic success with our European neighbours, despite the cooperation that the project has fostered.
@@pauln6803well put mate 😊
@@pauln6803 China, just 1 example, is NOT a competitor. It is an enemy. The CCP is not a friend of the western world. I know the difference very well. I'm no neo liberal so I give things and people their proper name, in case of China (and many more states) enemy is the proper description! It's high time we wake up!
K stands for the BMW K model? You are sure that all parts and buildings is done in Germany?
bmw group werke: (and more)
VOM STANDORT ZUM LEITWERK. Seit 1969 werden BMW Motorräder in Berlin produziert. ...
MONTAGEWERK RAYONG THAILAND. Seit 2014 werden im Montagewerk Rayong BMW Motorräder produziert. ...
MONTAGEWERK MANAUS BRASILIEN. ...
AUFTRAGSFERTIGUNG LONCIN CHINA. ...
AUFTRAGSFERTIGUNG TVS INDIEN.
The biggest single cylinder.Two centuries old.
??? Different video perhaps?
I owned a 2021 ktm duke 125...what a nightmare! That was made by bajaj engine blew twice
KTM has actually a camshaft gate, it could wear out in the first thousand km. no garantie and the costs could reach a few thousands euro.
Bajaj could mess up the KTM image easily and grow their own bikes without the weak camshafts.
2 more interesting comments here. 👋😊👌
@barebonesmc 1st engine rebuild - piston rings melted at just 2300 miles.
2nd rebuild was when the exhaust vavle dropped and smashed the pisto at 8900 miles, all under ktm warranty, sold it as soon the warranty was over 😄
@@T3-RIDERcheers for adding
Near the end of the video you mention that for every Bajaj sold that unit brings in more than every Triumph unit (400?) Consider the wages paid to workers, No? If you dont compensate the workers you are a company that is LESS not more
Not sure that came across right. What I was saying is that for every Triumph sold. Bajaj make more than Triumph. Triumph set the pricing and Triumph signed the deal with bajaj. As to how well bajaj pay their staff. That is a different story. Remember that cost of living is very much lower in India too. So although we may see their wages as low. In relation to cost of living they may not be. They may actually give those workers better comparable wages than they could otherwise get. Now I’m not saying they do. I’m just saying I don’t know. As to passing on profits to the workers I agree entirely. But unfortunately that rarely happens now with any companies driven by shareholders wherever they are based. Sad but true. I would love to know of any company you think does do that now? Cheers for such a thought provoking comment 😊👌
@@barebonesmc Thanks for the answer and thanks for your work
@@mattklein5498 no problem mate. I’m gradually catching up on replies 😊
@@mattklein5498 no problem mate. I’m gradually catching up on replies 😊
@@barebonesmcwith a 1000 USD per month salary, you can live upper middle class/beginner rich lifestyle in india with maid and servents.
when looking at income in india, people often seems to forget that it's incredibly cheap to live in india specially if you not living in the over crowded , over populated tier 1 cities like delhi mumbai etc.
you could eat a full meal in under 50 rupees( about 50 cents)
There's a trading body that represents the largest economic, population nos and development potential, and its name is BRICS.
The New "New World" is creating its own "Order", and it has rejected the cultish(Kaballistic) parasititez of the Old "New", and the old "Old" worlds....
Go India! ❤😊
To be fair. Bajaj we’re doing ok before BRICS so now who knows where the numbers will end up. 😊 they have infiltrated the cabal 😊😊
'Kaballistic'?!? Do you reckon that a more sophisticated way of saying 'Jew', craigywaigy? Now if you'd care to change the spelling to 'Caballistic', we can take you off the little black moustache man fanbois and pedo club members list. 🤔
How much did you earn for this PR clip
I don’t do sponsorships unlike many
this is no PR but reality.
i assume that there are agreements not to sale bajaj bikes in europe to prevent direct competition but in a short time the triumph technology/style will be available as bajaj models.
afair Vespa and Kawasaki have no longer a partnership with bajaj and learned the lesson.
@@shremich4583 cheers for the support mate😊 and yep. Bajaj don’t have the goodwill Hero would. Even when Honda broke their agreement Hero stuck to it and still sadly show no signs of selling in Europe and the US.
@@barebonesmcThanks for your hard work making this video, Bajaj is just one of many Indian conglomerates look at Tata who own JLR and that just a small part of their business.
Bajaj have been around for decades. No problems with company.
However object like hell when likes of triumph, ktm, piagio, etc get bikes built there and then try peddling them in western countries, badged as western makes, marketed at western prices!
Mahindra doing same with BSA!
Indeed. I’ve been having a dig at their new ad stream on fb lol. The height of British Engineering my bottom 🤣🤣
These bikes are still designed and engineered in EU/UK, only manufacturing is in India.
@@AbhinavGupta-gr5uy the Norton hasn’t had any real r and d for many years and the triumph 400 had all the r and d done by bajaj despite what triumph may say
Vagazzled.
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