Everything Wrong with The Message Movie
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- A legendary double bladed sword, cannibalism, a miraculous spider web- are these things part of the Seerah, or are they based on weak and fabricated reports? Find out on Sunni Defense.
What happened over 1400 years ago with the prophet Muhammad ﷺ and his companions was preserved and transmitted to us through authentic chains of narration.
That’s how we know what happened, what is established in the sunnah, And what the Prophet ﷺ and his companions actually said and did.
Over the years, things that aren’t authentically established made their way into the seerah. Through this video we will show the negative impact of adding events and statements that aren’t authentic on our perception of the seerah and what we hold to be true about the life of our beloved prophet peace be upon him.
In 1977 ‘The Message’, directed by Moustapha Akkad, was released for the first time in the english language. This movie captured the hearts of millions, muslims and non muslims alike, and it was the first exposure to islam for many. Since then, every year, many Muslim families huddle round the TV set on Eid and watch the film. It has left an imprint in many of our minds of what the sahaba looked like or acted like. Unfortunately, the film does not always accurately represent the early history of Islam and has erred in multiple ways.
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It was excellent. Thank you so much. Only thing for me the narrator was talking a bit fast so had to re-watch some parts. Nonetheless very nicely put together Ma sha Allaah 👍
Alhamdulillah. May Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala raise your station for this.
@@Sufia_Rafidah_Buster I had suspicion over the film when I would watch it, but this has confirmed it. So well done.
Exactly what i was looking for. Beothers could you please do another... 🙂
I am so glad someone brought this up. sadly the ikwanis or masonic brotherhood has sufi and shia influence, the priests and rabbis of the ummah. they like the judoe masons they follow use drama and promote civil war shame on them. they are a wrong response to the fall of the Uthmani Caliphate who were infiltrated due to all the sufi bida by the likely crypto young turks! when they started to make up lies everyone else did. rothschild uk backed modern Jordan with promise of Palestine who were betrayed and lost MEcca and Medina to Saudis! the ikwanis are reintroducing bida cultism and civil war that divides the ummah sham on them.
This movie did increase my faith and made me study islam in depth. I actually started to pray more aswell
Imagine if read the Quran with translation..
@@SNIPERS327 movies work much because Quran scares the shit from people
@@ajax1472 . "Its not the eyes that are blind but the hearts." Quran chapter 2
@@ajax1472 how
@@0nemz hell hell if you don't pray hell hell etc grilled in hell etc
The film should not be taken completely as authentic, it is afterall ...a film. It is for entertainment purposes. However, I do believe that this masterpiece was made with good intentions and invokes a passion within the Muslim audience who have seen it. It certainly lifts the spirit and warms the heart for the believer.
Agreed
Nailed it.
So it's OK to watch it when it has:
Wrong tawheed
Wrong translation of the shahada
Music
Uncovered women
False directions
Etc?
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 You aren't watching the movie for music. You aren't watching the movie to see uncovered women. Etc.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 You do have a point bro, but at the end of the day if we really applied such a standard to its fullest extent, then simply being on the internet would be Haram since it's inevitable you'll encounter such content. Just a few decades ago, Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen [May Allah bless him and have mercy on him] was tempted to declare the entirety of the internet to be unconditionally Haram due to the sheer Fitnah it causes according to his knowledge. I personally don't waste my time with live action movies, doesn't matter whether they're educational or not, but I wouldn't go as far as branding everyone who does so as a sinner. Basically however, I agree with you. The Prophet had already warned us of turbulent times: Al-Tirmidhi 2260
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "A time of patience will come to people in which adhering to one’s religion is like grasping a hot coal."
This movie was made in 1976 and it is very hard to keep the movie in context without showing the main figures of islam like the prophet, abu bakr, umar, uthman and ali. Hats off to the director because he did a great job.
Omar series was a bit better in my opinion
@@IbnWobbler that's a recent one. We are talking about 1976
@@IbnWobbler no way, nothing close to messenger. ı watched Omar series,ıt was good and loved it.But that film so great.
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Nah the Umar ibn al khattab series did a better job the movie forgot to include the battle do khandaq and Hunian and tabuk and did nothing but demonize abu sufyan and hind ra and didn’t show them doing the good things they did for the ummah during the life time of the prophet saws or show washi repenting.
I must say the person who did the Message movie struggled big time on making this happen. Not enough support and pressured by the Saudis at that time. He's from Syria. He left Syria at the age of 14 to America and his dad gave him a few hundred dollars. Ya'll should check the documentary. I will give a lot of credit to this man who did this beautiful movie which made a lot of impact on me and got me so much closer to Islam. I always knew tho that there's so much more than this movie and a lot of people aren't mentioned. Of course, you can't make all this in 2 - 3 hr movie. Almost impossible. May Allah bless the person behind this movie who made such impact on muslims and none muslims even.
we are happy when ppl get closer to Islam but there are other ways obviosuly even in media, we hope to do better work and its 100% possible Insha Allah! also as we get older it doesn't mean we can't learn from our mistakes as kids, its apart of growing up, I have this movie but but am happy I learned. Many scholars also say its degrading to act as them, would you want someone to act as your close ones, same with out salaf too right... so yea. but we have to keep doing good work in dawah so the beautiful din of Allah continues to spread on the Sunnah of course!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Brother, I need to know what's wrong with Sheikh Imran Hosein? I kinda took some words from him. Like Paper Currency being harām and his Interpretation about Dajjal. If what he's saying is wrong then what is Right? I just wanted to know whether I could practice Islam in a CountrySide? For time a sake I am a Non Secterian. I don't whether you are Salafi or from the Ahlul Sunnah Wajamia'ah. Anyways please help me out Akhi:)
i agree and i heard he was finally killed along with his daughter by isis, in amman wedding bombings
@@mzmi1422 Jazak Allahu Khayr!
@@AhmedQuthb Imran hosein keeps lying.
here watch this video : The Pure Fallacy of Imran Hosein's Eschatology | Abu Mussab Wajdi Akkari
To be fair it's really hard to show an accurate depiction
Yeah but the message did that really well
It's not hard whatsoever 😐
@@BilalBrown then you go make a film like this
@@Unknown_Bag Give me the same budget and I'll make a better one.
He actually said "an angel came UNTO him"... the accent makes it sound like he said "into" him.
That’s what I heard as well. But I guess they made a mistake. We all make mistakes. I don’t even debate or discuss about Islam is anymore with Muslims because I’m tired and don’t wanna waste my breath. A few of the things he said in the video weren’t actually inaccurate or fabrications. But who cares. There are more important things. Muslims don’t even know about Tawheed and rejecting Taghut.
Islam is not the religion of stage show, check in Arabic version of film may be the mistakes occurred in translating into english, no matter Mustafa Aquad presented the story to Azhar for approval and they were not ignorant. Movies, historical novels are mostly based on short stories most part of them are fabricated for entertainment.
@@masroorahmadazmi758 Al Azhar is a corrupt institute. They’re Sufi, Ash’ari, Mu’tazili in their philosophy. They ban books of great scholars like Ibn Abdulwahhab and Ibn Taymiyya. The real Islam is Tawheed, rejecting Taghut, walaa & baraa, nullifiers of Islam etc. If you talk about this in Al Azhar they will put you in prison.
@@abdelll9737 there are different types of mazhab taught in Islamic universities some of universities don't teach fiqah hanafi, are they not corrupted for hanafi people? We can't give them certificate of right and wrong. Films are films we can't rely our faith upon them, these are produced for amusements that's all.
@@masroorahmadazmi758 People take movies like this seriously so it’s not just entertainment. Most people can’t distinguish between fact and fiction. Especially when there’s no real info out there backed up by facts from Quran and Sunnah. Al-Azhar University is dominated by corrupt scholars who pander to corrupt leadership in Egypt and in the Muslim world. They ban books that teach the true ‘aqeedah of Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jamaa’ah. They teach the Al-Qardawi type of “Islam.” Al-Qardawi preaches democracy and all kinds of other heresy.
They ban books written by Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah and Muhammad Ibn Abdulwahhab. Two of the scholars who teach Al-Walaa Wal Baraa, Kufr Bi Taghut etc. If you study Islam you will come to realise that the Islam that they teach in modern day universities is not Islam at all. They ban anything that will make the non-Muslims uncomfortable. When you do that (when you ban things based on whether the non-Muslims agree with it or not) then you have changed Islam completely. We don’t base our religion on what non-Muslims agree with or not. We might as well leave Islam and follow their non-Muslim religions when we do that. There is no Islam without teaching the core fundamentals of ‘Aqeedah. And this has nothing to do with the 4 schools of thought. All 4 madhhabs agree on fundamental ‘aqeedah principles. Al walaa wal Baraa, al Kufr Bi Taghut, Tawheed, nullifiers of Islam etc.
I only Believe in Quran and sunnah not any shia or sufi books
@@thecoolguyinthecommentsect3061 Zaydi?
you said it sister!
@@thecoolguyinthecommentsect3061 teachesings of Ahlul bayt follow Quran and Sunnah who praised teh sahabas as a group especially the Muhajirun from Mecca! those who oppose the sahabas are called disbelievers in Quran surah 48, they also compiled the Quran. shia mehdi matches dajjal!
who married Ali's daughter? name one shia in ahlul bayt as marraige is half your din.
1) ramla bint Ali married ibn Hakam brother of Marwan.
2) Khadijah bint Ali with AbdurRahman bin Amr bin Kareez cousin of Muwaiyah.
3) Umm Khultham married Umar.
4) Hasan bin Ali married daughter of Talha bin Ubaidullah.
5) Hasan's kids married sahabas kids.
6 &7) Al Hussin's daughters Sukaina and Fatimah bint Hussain married with sons of Uthman! - Abdullah bin Amr bin Uthman and Zaid bin Amr bin Uthman.
8) bint Abdullah bin Jafar with Yazid bin Muawiyah.
9) Abdul Malik bin Marwan married daughter of Abdullah bin Jafar Marwan.
10 & 11 ) Al Walid bin Abdul Malik had 2 wives from ahlul bayt, daughters of Hasan bin Ali
Ahlul bayt were Sunnis and married Sunnis. Where are the shias. they are a different religion!
12) Jafer as Sadiq said Abu Bakr gave birth to me twice from my mom's side. His daughter was named Aisha,
why didn't he marry her to zurara?
Ahlul bay never married shias because they are pagan mushriks free from them like Jesus is free from the christian pagans!
Ahlul bayt never married them and named thier children after who the shias call disbelievers. they named their kids, Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, because they are Sunnis who they love and share a din with not contradicting shia mushriks who aren't connected with them by name as moonafiq pagans.
Ali cursed the shia and said give them bad rulers, they killed hussain. Ahlul bayt cursed the shias who pushed civil wars while loved and married Sunnis and Caliphas because thats who they follow!
shias have no true link in din to ahlul bayt just as they have no hadith to the Prophet peace and blessings on him, they try to make a new religion as dajjals!
@@commercialandresidentialpl7337 absolutely not... I am Sunni.
all you can call me is by what shiasm is because its the lowest eh?
No movies can be historically accurate, but i'm sure that this movie came very close. The fact that the directors ask for verification from Muslim scholars in Egypt and Lebanon speaks for its honest intention
Obviously a number of things about the movie are clearly inaccurate, however it sounds like whoever made this video is being way too strict from a historical perspective. Obviously not all the reports about the Prophet ﷺ and the companions are authentic to the very strict conditions of say Bukhari or Muslim, but that doesn't mean that they didn't happen at all. If you want to apply the strict conditions of Bukhari to everything then you would likely have to discard like 90% of human history because it simply wouldn't meet those standards. So whatever you've heard of e.g. Alexander the Great or Napoleon or Ghengis Khan or whomever, you'd have to discard, and surely that's an out of place rabbit hole. To my understanding some hadith scholars had very strict conditions because they did not want to risk basing important rulings on fabricated narrations. So, many things related to life of the Prophet ﷺ such as the details of his wars, and which warriors fought whom, and the different poems the companions the recited on occasions, and the narrations detailing the life and times of the companions after the passing of the Prophet ﷺ (such as can be found in the books of al-Waqidi rha etc.) are not authentic according to the conditions of Bukhari, but that doesn't mean they didn't happen at all. Such a conclusion seems too hasty, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You can also look for example at the generally accepted principle among scholars that it is allowed to act upon weak narrations that have to do with virtues (Fadail) such as the narration that reading Surah al Waqiah protects against poverty etc.
I found the "movie" well made and sensitive to the Prophet, while getting its message across.
i think the movie forgot to depict Battle of the Trench. it would be the most epic scene ever
i think they don't forgot about it bcs there is scene where muslim digging the ground but if make the war scene it will make film so long and so much budget bcs making 3 war scene is kinda impossible ngl.
@@yusufmazrul ah yes, cgi and vfx wasnt a common thing there...
@@MiekuahProductions yes, this movie released 1976
You can find it in 'Omar' series Episode 14
search in youtube مسلسل عمر - الحلقة 14
Well, if they would, these nawasib at Sunday discourse will say it’s fabricated as Ali did everything and umar and bi bakr were being cowards.
Your views are a bit extreme like saudis, sorry to say. The movie’s message was pretty accurate according to a lot of hadis. It had a positive affect on many ppl and changed many non Muslims view on how Islams message was spread. Don’t dismiss it by your ignorance sir. Try to do the right thing and not spread misinformation.
His information is correct and Are you Shiite
A bit? Straight up Nasibism can be seen, considering story of Ali(RA) laying down for the Prophet(SAWS) and weakening it shows it.
@@arsalanahmed5345 sunnis do not authenticate or weaken hadith because it suits them every single hadith is academically scrutinized and if it meets the 5 conditions it's sahih there is ikhtlaf on the story about ali رضي الله عنه laying on the bed of the prophet the if the brothers from sunnah discourse lean towards it being weak then that is okay for it is not a شاذ opinion but other scholars like othman al khamis said that the hadith is Hasan. والله اعلم
@@fidelcastro4250 there is no one way to authenticate Hadith, Imam Bukhari had a different method than Imam Muslim. One method Imam Muslim followed to weaken Hadith was that if a Tabai didn’t narrate the name of Sahabi who told the Hadith of Rasool Allah(SAWS), then it’s weak, however many Ulema had the opinion anything Taabi narrates from Rasool Allah(SAWS) should be considered Sahih as he/she won’t lie upon Rasool Allah(SAWS) and only will narrate when it’s heard from a Sahabi.
I am sure there is every Hadith even Bukhari Muslim that some ulema called it weak, however we see the majority and majority agreed that Ali(RA) slept on the bed of Rasool Allah(SAWS).
What is this nonsense comment. He gave authentic Hadith stop being weak minded
Although the movie had its faults. I still thought it was a good reputation of our deen. Many have become closer to Islam and some have also became Muslims because of this movie. In a way you could see it as a form of dawah.
Why are most Muslims in the west so preoccupied with how we look towards non-Muslims? It’s a defeatist mentality.
@@abdelll9737Preaching our faith us a duty tonus Muslims, of course we care. And looking at every non Muslim as ennemies is just not a healthy or productive way seeing things. Sadly, we live in a time where we're weak and devided, hating the rest of the world won't solve any problems, because there are many if them who are just waiting for the opportunity to strike us.
A 3 hour film cannot narrate an entire epic series of event occuring in the prophets life ! Try making a movie better than this ! This movie has inspired a lot more than it has done harm .
yeah, it seems lacking many events that we know, but now whenever I read any event of our Prophet(S.A.W.W) Times, I imaging mosques like that, desert like that, fields like that, fights like that, people like that, water like that, Kabba like that...camel ride and all...it makes us feel how people used to live...
Alhamdulillah 🌹 definitely
I agree. The aklhaq amongst muslims today is at all time low. Its a 3 hour film what should people expect? I find this film to be a masterpiece and im sure it has guided more people to Islam than this TH-cam channel.
@@abdullahsheik11 plus the points in the vid are exagerated
4:57 This has got to be the most nitpicky critique of the film I've ever heard. "There is no god but God" and "there is no true deity except Allah" mean essentially the same thing. This is not worthy of being labelled an inaccuracy.
He's being a pedantic troll.
I am a huge fan of Sunni Defense. But i don't agree with this video. I had expected something better. You get a Muhaddith or scholar to watch this Movie he will criticise most of the things in it. But movies are mostly seen by people who get a basic gist of the whole story. Did you expect them to make full Seerah presentation in 2 hours?
You according to me have looked into the movie through a completely wrong lense before putting this analysis. Just my view. This might be the first video of Sunni Defense that i found uncomfortable to watch. I just couldn't agree on most of it. People very well know they are just watching a Movie not reading Bukhari, The Sealed Nectar or Maghazi of Ibn Ishaq for that matter.
The fact that there will be inaccuracies with a movie based on history is a given. That doesn't take away from the fact that many would be interested in learning what those inaccuracies are.
@@SunnahDiscourse
You have a point as well.
Please do make a video about falsehood spread by Shias and secularists against Muhammad bin Qasim RH. They are hell bent upon portraying the Hindu King Raja Dahir as helper of Ahlul Bayt and Ibn Qasim RH as a tyrant.
This is a huge issue here in subcontinent. Please do expose this hypocrisy of Shia.
I had asked you on your one previous video as well. Do look into it. Jazak Allahu Khairan.
@@omarchatila85
No.
No one learns Seerah of The Prophet SAW from a movie. If anyone sees movies for studying Seerah it is his fault alone. Movie mostly target emotional aspect of a story. They (if) try to give an emotional lesson rather than a history lesson.
By your argument early Seerah scholars may be labelled as distorters of Seerah. Since they didn't put strict conditions on narrating as Hadith scholars did. Not everyone is a reader.
I saw many people learned Names of various Sahaba RA from this movie alone.
Many arguments made againsts things in the Movie i found to be strange. None the less i understand that brothers were trying to point out the inaccuracies in the movie. They could have done a better job.
Wth, this is bs. You don’t have to take everything seriously. That is actually a good movie. They depicted it very accurately given the restriction the film makers had.
You don’t have to take false depiction of the Deen and the Prophet ﷺ seriously? Speaks volumes for you.
@@samboy90 where did he make fasle depictions about the prophet? this film actually helped alot of people know littlle about islam.
Stop being stringent, islam is not as strict and narrow as you think it is.
@@muhannedk6763 islam isnt strict but we are not "free" a depiction of the beloved shabi by actors who arent even Muslims mostly and don't even believe in the religion and the showing of woman uncovered is enough to make it haram and this is especially because this is a religious film islamicly speaking it shouldn't have any of these in the film and with that said this doesn't make "Islam strict" and if you think it does then you need to work on urself religion is not on opinion a religious film should have everything haram avoided.
@@m-kh3ild734 How is it haram for actors to adopt characters?
Thats just stupid. The women not wearing hijab thing, You do realize the film depicts pre islamic era, the actresses protraying them represent that era, so whats your point.
Allah is not little minded ..He is much wiser
It is quite obvious that a 3 hour movie can never capture the beauty, the subtlety and the amazing nature and character of Mohammed (SAW). However there is the concept of benefit and harm. Alcohol has benefits and harms, but the harms far outweigh the benefits. I think this movie has more benefits than harms.
Agree
It definitely has more harms than benefits, even if thats not the case. Warding off evil takes precedence over bringing evil.
I just wonder on the views that the prophet has on women. Still but yeah Muslim women generally are dependent and likes subjugation. I am really sorry . No offence intended. I just stated the truth.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905v
you misunderstood the verse, it is haram. period No more discussion it has a lot of flaws but it would be better to just say go read a biography book that wont give any of these flaws
This movies script was reviewed by Azhar scholars in Egypt and they had no issues with it. I already picked up few things in the 4 minutes of watching that is falsely claiming certain Hadiths are not authentic. What do you consider authentic? I feel like making a video of everything wrong with "Everything Wrong with The Message Movie" i will post my findings on comments İnshAllah.
I had heard that the Azhar had problems with the movie
@@younestetouani4860 same here
And who the hell are you to say what's wrong with this video?
You should do a video analyzing all the verses that have to do with the sahaba while providing context and commentary.
great idea, i know of at least one other person who may have suggested that.
No need
Exactly some of the stuff was biased asf no disrespect
Also it’s not haram to shave a beard but it’s encouraged to grow one
Actually it's haram to shave bread and it's ok if it's not grown by itself
@@mohamedf8859 dude you’re so wrong. Stop spreading false info. It is NOT haram to shave beard and that is period.
Great movie but you can't expect perfection in it from a 3 hour time limit. Similar to The Ten Commandments movie of Charlton Heston, there are contradictions and inaccuracies but a great movie indeed.
Really curious what you consider "authentic" regards to spider web, sources:
bk. Kadı Iyâz, eş-Şifâ, 1:313; Ali el-Kari, Şerhu’ş-Şifâ, 1:368; Müsned, 1:248; San’ânî, el-Musannef, 5:389; İbni Kesîr, el-Bidâye ve’n-Nihâye, 3:179-181; el-Heysemî, Mecmeu’z-Zevâid, 7:27; İbnü’l-Kayyım, Zâdü’l-Meâd (tahkik: Arnavud), 3:52; et-Tebrîzî, Mişkâtü’l-Mesâbîh, no. 5934; Merûzî, Müsnedü Ebû Bekir-i Sıddık, no. 73; Zeyle’î, Nasbü’r-Râye, 1:123; el-Heysemî, Mecmeu’z-Zevâid, 6:52-53.
It's a commendable attempt to squeeze the seerah into an enjoyable 3 hour movie
However, they should have researched the seerah before making assumptions
@@shahzaibahmed. well there were no thoeologicsl problems were there?
@@fmabincarim34 strawman argument.
There are authentic Seerah books which are supported on Sahih Hadiths and evidences, for e.g. Ar Raheekqul Makhtum by Saifur Rahman is a great Seerah book.
@Global Revolution its already 3 hours long, a lot is not shown, and those men weren't killed by the prophet, nor was the punishment decided by the prophet
To have everything they gonna need have a longer movie but too much to manage to put full islam in one movie
Was really looking forward to this. JazakAllaah Khair Sunni Defense and Eid Mubarak 😊💖
You have treated weak narrations as fabrications. There is some creative freedom to the makers of the film to make it dramatic and emotional to make an attachment with viewers. I haven't seen anything completely false in the movie. Although whatever you may think, this movie has been a really good friend of Muslims in conveying the message of Allah swt.
Why am I watching ads of haram things during this video you've uploaded on youtube?
Thanks for pointing out some inaccuracies but I'd advise to stop finding faults rather speak of the merits of this film first. Many people accepted Islam after seeing this movie. Also weak narrations cannot be completely ignored and can still hold up to being the truth. Using western actors is not haram or forbidden and may in fact be a better option to invite non-muslim audiences, in fact two versions, one with Muslim actors was also made, see the behind the scenes on the DVD. You've taken things unfortunately too literally also... I wish this movie had been better received by the western world, of course somethings in the film had to be stretched for it to work. It was very difficult to make and the director didn't have enough budget. Walaikum Assalam.
TH-cam started putting adverts on all videos, it's not SD adding the adverts. I'd advise you to get Ublock Origin.
ALL advertisement is haram
@@SIGSEGV1337 is this the best adblock
@@yogijaya2897 Yes
Because you are on TH-cam. It doesn't represent any kind of religion. Why don't you check out some other websites that it would show only islamic videos and advertisements? Why are you even complaining about it? You guys are disgusting.
I remember reading about the spider Web in a children's book about the seerah
Who is the author?
@ITS FACTZ I've been told this story since I can remember. My parents told me about it, my teachers, Qasas Anbiya' shows, etc. Up until today, I thought it was authentic. Same goes for Hind eating Hamza (RA)'s liver and Ali (RA) taking the prophet (PBUH)'s bed.
@@iGoHAMzaTV no... it isn't...
Really curious what you consider "authentic" regards to spider web, sources:
bk. Kadı Iyâz, eş-Şifâ, 1:313; Ali el-Kari, Şerhu’ş-Şifâ, 1:368; Müsned, 1:248; San’ânî, el-Musannef, 5:389; İbni Kesîr, el-Bidâye ve’n-Nihâye, 3:179-181; el-Heysemî, Mecmeu’z-Zevâid, 7:27; İbnü’l-Kayyım, Zâdü’l-Meâd (tahkik: Arnavud), 3:52; et-Tebrîzî, Mişkâtü’l-Mesâbîh, no. 5934; Merûzî, Müsnedü Ebû Bekir-i Sıddık, no. 73; Zeyle’î, Nasbü’r-Râye, 1:123; el-Heysemî, Mecmeu’z-Zevâid, 6:52-53.
Regards to liver, attempted yes eat no...
spider web, sources:
bk. Kadı Iyâz, eş-Şifâ, 1:313; Ali el-Kari, Şerhu’ş-Şifâ, 1:368; Müsned, 1:248; San’ânî, el-Musannef, 5:389; İbni Kesîr, el-Bidâye ve’n-Nihâye, 3:179-181; el-Heysemî, Mecmeu’z-Zevâid, 7:27; İbnü’l-Kayyım, Zâdü’l-Meâd (tahkik: Arnavud), 3:52; et-Tebrîzî, Mişkâtü’l-Mesâbîh, no. 5934; Merûzî, Müsnedü Ebû Bekir-i Sıddık, no. 73; Zeyle’î, Nasbü’r-Râye, 1:123; el-Heysemî, Mecmeu’z-Zevâid, 6:52-53.
as a Muslim i can say i didn't benefit or gained anything from this video except the assumption the maker of this video is someone is very close to worship the companions.
You left the main point of the movie and you focused on very little unnoticed mistakes like the beards.
The movie was about 3 hours long and it didn't cover everything about the story of the prophet . it was made to show how islam began not how Hamza looks like or the sahaba
Also i have noticed you only like comments that supports your work but don't really reply to the critical comments . It's ironic since you made a whole video criticizing a Great movie.
My friend if you want to talk about accuracy then you should not name yourself " Sunni " you should call yourself a Muslim. There is no such thing as Sunni or Shea'a in Islam it's a man made thing and the prophet never called him self a " Sunni ".
Also the movie overall was Positive there is no " Negative impact " the only negative thing is your comments and videos. Everyone is applauding to the movie makers despite it's not 100% accurate. It gave the Non Muslims an idea how our religion started and the hardships that our prophet faced during his life in prophethood .
Ps: if i wasn't a Muslim and saw your channel i would never ever consider to be a Muslim or watch your videos , because it looks like it's a war zone and i don't want to get into that . i'm good i believe in allah and his prophet . i don't need to know anything to debate with shia or Jews or anyone because hidaya is from Allah not from me , and if someone really wants to know about Islam he/she should go talk to a scholar not me or you.
you whole channel is negative i mean look at the comments of the people who follow you!! all of them asking for hate videos because they want to mock and laugh at misguided people like the shia. Is this what the prophet taught us? did he teach us to laugh or mock people of other faiths?
There is a video of Dr Zakir Naik and he was asked about his opinion on this movie the message and he said " The movie was outstanding and overall very Good , even though there are things which i don't agree with in the movie but overall it's Great movie and we need to do more " You see the difference between you and a scholar?
@@SH7MSxKLEH zakir naik isn't a scholar, and secondly, as sunnis we have a right to respond to attacks made against the sahaba and deen of Allah whether we are responding to shias, Christians, Jews etc, so essentially get a grip
@@millat_ibraheem i'm from Saudi Arabia and i identify as a Muslim not a sunni because the prophet came with one Religion and it's called islam not sunni. Let's say i don't follow the sunnah of the prophet and i shave my beard does that mean i'm not a muslim? . Also i'm very sorry i didn't know we defend our religion by attacking, laughing and mocking other people's faiths . Didn't allah say in his book ( You have your religion and i have mine) ? I also defend the sahaba and the Prophet and our religion but by clearing the misunderstanding not by laughing emojis and insults. Check the comments look what some of the Ignorant Muslims are saying calling other people bad words and names just because they have different belief thanks to channels such as this. Is that how you make Dawah to islam? By insulting others? Or you don't care about dawah you just want to win arguments?
@@SH7MSxKLEH Never asked
@@millat_ibraheem Great Muslim manners. can't reply to my arguments? i'm not surprised since you support mocking other religions. Everyone has a right to defend his beliefs but no one including us Muslims have the right to mock other religions.
Ahmad Deedat and Zakir Naik have defended islam for decades without insulting any religion but with reason , wisdom and knowledge . I suggest you watch their videos and learn the islamic manners towards people of other faiths.
The video is very well done, however, it fails to mention that chains of narration for maghazi are known for being weaker than those for ahkam, Fiqh, and general legal theory. When the narrator says that a story is not authentic, that doesn’t mean it is fabricated, nor does it mean that it is weak, it could mean that, compared to Hadith, it is weak, but you can’t say it’s fabricated.
I wish the narrator mentioned that when speaking about certain points such as Bilal killing Umayya. Also, there is a difference of opinion on who killed Abu Jahl. There is a Hadith in Musnad of Imam Ahmad that Ibn Masud dealt the final blow and showed his head to Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) who then called Abu Jahl the Pharaoh of this ummah.
Not referencing the depth of the study of taarikh, while doing a very brilliantly thorough analysis, might lead people to question historical accuracy of the historical tradition as a whole.
I'm glad you pointed this out, while I appreciate the videos analysis there is a big difference between weak and fabricated hadith - meaning that in theory everything in this film could still be true - hence I don't think it should be a list of inaccuracies per se but just pointing out when a scene isn't based on a strong hadith.
Jazzak Allâh khair
Maybe u all should must work harder 2 find that's(I mean .....n).done
Man I loved this movie, fun fact: moustapha akkad created the halloween series.mthis movie was a masterpiece, rest in piece moustapha akkad 😞
What the hell is this?? Sunnima sins
Gajibur Rahman 😂
😂
Lol I legit thought this was Cinema sins when I got the notification.
Instead of "thaaaaaat's racist" the narrator should've hit us with a "thaaaaat's Haram" 😂😂😂
the sufis and shia due to all their bida much of the time have to reunite on secularism like the christians do and replace knowledge with drama. its the ikwani judeo mason way shame on them!
It’s funny how in the Omar series Ali RA is depicted exactly how the Shia depict him as a Persian transgender. Possible Shia influence even in the Omar series 🤔
Or they were trying to appeal to Shias to watch it. I found it uncomfortable how they made the actor look like the artistic Shia impressions..
Allah knows best. It was really cringe to say the least
OMG, I reckon the same. The actor looks alot like Shia depiction of Ali AS.
Perhaps you're right, theres a small chance of influence from Shia
A beautiful movie.. ❤️
And the most accurate one so far..
The most important is we take the positives and the mistakes ALLAH knows best,may ALLAH keep blessing them for the wonderful job they have tried 💯❤️🙏
This film was one of my favourite films and it's sad to see how much of it was not really authentic. But this was a great video and much needed. For the next film review you should do a review on shia depiction of Karbala there was a film on it not sure where to find it.
the sufis and shia due to all their bida much of the time have to reunite on secularism like the christians do and replace knowledge with drama. its the ikwani judeo mason way shame on them!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 we all need to follow the salaf
Unless anyone alive here was standing there when it happened, not one person is in any position to say what is fact from fiction to begin with.
If we must be really honest, no one has any proof of Muhammad's existence, nor , the accounts of any of these people's story. All you have is hearsay.
Its like how most everything we think we know about Hitler is either a deliberate lie, an exaggeration, or someone talking about what they don't know . He's such a hot topic, that you can guarantee that most everything you've ever heard about him is a bunch of bullshit.
@@shaquadradeloiserussell8659 no proof of the Prophet s.a.w? He's been known historically to exist, what are you talking about?
@@shaquadradeloiserussell8659 That's nonsense. If you know how the hadith are preserved and classified to be authentic by using many conditions than you will have no doubt in whether he existed or not.
السلام علیکم
This movie was made by a Director who was not a practicing Muslim but one who made a career in Western film making.
I don't think he ever meant for this movie to be an absolute scholarly & factual representation of our Beloved Prophets (pbuh) life and the history of early Islam.
This is a work of art based on the true events geared towards representing the spirit of the start of our Beloved Prophets (pbuh) message to the target audience, which is mainly the Western world which has always had a highly skewed, biased and inaccurate perception of Islam and its beginnings.
This movie helps address that and serves as an introduction. At the same time, the producers and director had to deal with limits on how they could portray the Prophet (pbuh) and the Companions. There was no way they could come up with a solution that could satisfy everyone. The method they ended up with is I think an admirable and respectful artistic production with brilliant scenes and music and it seems to be a sincere genuine effort to do the best they could with the limitations they had.
That many English speaking Muslim families should consider it as a factually accurate in every detail, speaks more about the failure of any authentic Muslim effort to produce a similar movie. In fact, it would be impossible, I think for Muslims to produce such a movie because we would become mired in arguments and debates and would either not be released or if it were, would not garner a similar widespread appeal.
I have seen many Muslims, eventual converts (reverts) and non Muslims come away with a positive impression of Islam after watching this movie and those who are sincere and serious have gone on to read & discover more about Islam.
Overall, this movie has done more good than harm, I believe. Yes, it has faults, but anything produced by humans will always have faults.
If we were to list all the positives in this movie, they would certainly outnumber the negatives by alot.
Allah works in strange ways sometimes which we do not understand. May He reward those who strive towards good in any form and He forgive us all our faults, visible and hidden. Aameen.
The translation of Shahadah is wrong?? Really, are you that desperate to find "inaccuracies"??
The whole point is to find inaccuracies 🤦♂️
@@godartem4107 Inaccuracies that is basically nitpicking at this point
@@YAYa-jx2kx What about the other inaacuracy in this movie? or are you yourself guilty of the same sin
@@soheil527 Sins of looking inaccurate?
bruh look at the title of the video again
You cannot put limitations on the creator, “Nothing is like Him. And He is the All Hearing, the All Seeing”
Eid Mubarak all! Been waiting for this
I watched the movie when I first became in 1992 I truly love this movie
Eid Mubarak!
‘Eid Mubārak!
BarakAllahu feekum. That was incredibly informative
No movie can be 100 % accurate, they did a great job 👏🏻. It's a beautiful Islamic family movie. There's nothing wrong with the movie. Salam
Islamic history stories especially that of Rasool sallal lahu alaihi wa sallam and his Sahabah cannot and must not ever be made into a movie, drama, show . Acting itself is deceiving, lying, not allowed
Eid Mubarak everyone!
Asalām 'Alaykum. May Allāh Grant you goodness in this life and in the hereafter. I advise you to change the thumbnail and if there are any women shown in your video, then please remove them as well.
In our religion we are not allow to see the women except for which the Sharī'ah permits. Even the hair of a woman can not be seen by us unless she is our Mahram.
Astaghfirullah. Just watched it during this Ramadhan, and I thought it's really the true story of Prophet pbuh. Allahu Akbar. Jazakkallah for enlightening us. 😊
You do have to remeber that this is only a 3 hour film and they cant fill all the details in,its a film for muslims and nin mulsims to enjoy together. Many of these are also minor innacuraacies or stuff that wasnt considered innacurate at the time
Unless anyone alive here was standing there when it happened, not one person is in any position to say what is fact from fiction to begin with.
If we must be really honest, no one has any proof of Muhammad's existence, nor , the accounts of any of these people's story. All you have is hearsay.
Its like how most everything we think we know about Hitler is either a deliberate lie, an exaggeration, or someone talking about what they don't know . He's such a hot topic, that you can guarantee that most everything you've ever heard about him is a bunch of bullshit.
not having a beard is not haram but better to have one
And what was your evidence for that? As we have evidence that it is a command for men to keep the beard and trim one moustache
Above His throne is a mistake translation also. Allah exist without a place. He is as He was before and after creating the creation. Place is a a creation of Allah and he has no need for it.All of the creation needs Him
Can you guys do the same thing for the Umar series? DjazaakAllah
You have to realize that this movie wasn't made or translated by muslims, so obviously it wouldn't be 100% accurate, even alot of learned muslims aren't aware of some of the very famous unauthentic hadiths, let alone non muslims. And neither is this movie meant to give a detailed seerah of the Prophet, rather it's meant to give a brief overview of the beginning of Islam, which it does perfectly, and that's why it's called The Message and not The Messenger.
The reaction after the Hudaybia treaty in the movie also doesn't represent the truth. The movie depicted that the Sahaba (represented by Bilal) were fully welcoming and even intended to 'use' the 'peace' time, whereas in reality the vast majority of Sahaba were uneasy with the treaty.
I think theres only so much that can be fitted in one film, and the makers in the film did not want to concentrate too much on detail due to limitations. If you look at the documentary of how the film was made, they struggled to create a sandstorm during Badr and gave up on it entirely due to practicalities. So we were left with a battle not accurate but still gives us a reasonably accurate portrayal in terms of outcome of the battles.
Brother you aren’t allowed to show womens awrah , even for the sake of this video. Be careful of the amount of sins this video has potentially led to
May allah bless you for making this and helping other people understand the movie.
Your verion of "wrong" is nothing more than an opinion, btw not all shia's believe in whatever you were saying and likewise with sunni's there are many muslims that believe differently.. Thats atleast one wrong thing about u for sure.
Brilliant keep up the good work and refute the shia rhetoric.
Everything wrong with this channel.
Brilliant movie and it touches the heart of everyone ok
Not every movie is 100% correct but we have to understand and move on
The fifth point is not valid, I watched the German version of the movie and it does not say „into“ him. I appreciate your research but next time please research better. Thank you.
Subhan Allah, yes there are flows but why don't you at least give credits to them for trying to make people understand Islam. Even with their shortcomings in terms of knowledge and limited technology plus limited authentic books on.islam. Because you are born in an era were knowledge is available at your finger tips doesn't mean that those before you are stupid or foolish, No movie from 1977 till date depicts islam and has reverted people to Islam like the message. Also note that when this film was made, most of us weren't even born but we and our parents watched it and accepted Islam and we are muslims till date. PLEASE DON'T BE SOUNDING AS IF THE FILM MAKERS WILL GO TO HELL OR HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME AGAINST ISLAM. If not for the message, many of you internet stars would5even have a platform or the lever to preach Islam. IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO, KINDLY POINT OUT 26+ THINGS THAT THEY GOT CORRECT.
I watch this video in many times. This is absolutely real life and true history and similar in Holly Qur'an and Hadith's.
Unless anyone alive here was standing there when it happened, not one person is in any position to say what is fact from fiction to begin with.
If we must be really honest, no one has any proof of Muhammad's existence, nor , the accounts of any of these people's story. All you have is hearsay.
Its like how most everything we think we know about Hitler is either a deliberate lie, an exaggeration, or someone talking about what they don't know . He's such a hot topic, that you can guarantee that most everything you've ever heard about him is a bunch of bullshit.
@BILAL MIAN
Go see surah 3/ 65-66.
Those books may say whatever they want to say,
and then its left up to you to choose whether you believe it , or dont believe it;
But whether you believe or do not believe, does not change what actually did happen.
But whatever 'did' happen is factually a pure mystery to you and hearsay.
Do not confuse the word:
'Hearsay'
with
'Lie'...
It just means that you simply do not truly know what happened, other than what you've been told.
The quran is such a big subject, that you can guarantee we've all been lied to about at least a few things by people who distort it
We have too many people trying to put muhammad and his writings and the writings others have written about him, in precedence ABOVE the quran,
And that is absolute blasphemy , idolatry , and polytheism.
Example:
1: we have the quran...thats the word of God right? ...well okay then, thats all we need to know.
2. But then we have muhammads personal writings and philosophies...
Which dont get me wrong, are FINE to read and take lessons from, and can improve peoples dignity.
3. But THEN....we have all the writings that came as long as 200 years after muhammad died...
Where people write down : "muhammad once said this , muhammad said that."
...authored with a name behind it , whom for all you know somebody just made up and doesnt even exist.
"Aisha said about The Prophet"
"Abu Bakr said The prophet used to do this."
- Ibn Hasan Sayed.
(I totally made that name up just to make the example)
The point... we have too much of this "he said she said" stuff.
And we also have people outright obsessed with muhammad to the point of worship with complete disregard to any other prophets.
People are so obsessed with that simple MAN , that they are failing to understand the message,
And muhammad himself said to not be idolizing him like this.
No prophet has any greater or lesser value than another;
first, middle, or last makes no difference.
And that is straight out of surah 2.
@@shaquadradeloiserussell8659 hater always gotta hate
@@adamsabra7746
which is why youre typing that, because you hate it because the truth sucks.
Anyway, this movie...while it IS good...
if we're going to be REALLY honest,
is nowhere near as brutal and dark as the way it actually was. This movie is very tame , and made for PG-13 Audience.
The rape and murder of Sumaiya was graphic (very suggestive to what was ACTUALLY done to her with that idol) enough ,that its really a surprise it still got PG-13 ,just for that alone.
I’m Jewish and I like this film well done and very good they don’t show Muhammad the closest you get is when near end you see a long wooden stick going into destroy the idols. That was Muhammad but we don’t see him.
This movie still gives me goosebumps❤️❤️❤️
Looking forward to a such educational vedio👍
Can you do a review of Umar ibn Al Khattab series
Alot of wrong info this brother gave out. Big thumbs down
I didn’t even know the English version when I was growing up. I only learned that an English version existed many years later. Around 2005 I think. The Arabic version is light years ahead of the English version. But still, many inaccuracies because Muslims are not monolithic and the influencers for this film were from many different sects.
Some historians ans educated commentators have said that majority of people were dark skinned arabs and africans but u havnt mentioned that majority of actors are European looking
I would say the actors looked more Levantine/Mediterranean looking after they have put all that acting make up & dyed hair etc.. European is a generalisation. There is no one specific European look.
Eid Mubarak
I am writing comments as i watch the video per "inaccuracy" and wow, seriously, what do you do consider "authentic"?? Regards to Ali pbuh sleeps in our prophets sav bed... this is widely accepted never seen it disputed. I gave sources to pretty much all my claims. How about you give sources and we will see your sources. It really upsets me watching this. If you are making claims or dismissing things you need to give your sources either in the video or description of the video.
Even if it is wrong, the movie inspires some people to look further into Islam to find a better meaning of it.
Idk what's wrong with sunnah discourse,it's a really good movie that portrays our nabi in a very positive light
This video is the perfect companion piece to the movie. Many of the liberties taken by the director were unavoidable of course, and I am convinced that he genuinely had the best of intentions, but they have to be pointed out loud and clear all the same. Great job, brother. I also think that you pointed them out respectfully and I am taken aback by the many downvotes, quite frankly.
sunnah discourse is the mossad syathan channel
Its funny how you guys see Abu Talib as a non believer but Abu Sufian and Hind as believers after all Abu Talib and his sons did to Islam and after all Abu Sufian and his family did to Islam فَإِنَّهَا لَا تَعْمَى الْأَبْصَارُ وَلَٰكِن تَعْمَى الْقُلُوبُ الَّتِي فِي الصُّدُورِ
Tottaly Agree
Exactly! I never understood this
That's Why Muslim Scholars do not allow making films and drama's and even many consider it Haram because Book is always A Good And Authentic Source to learn.
ITS TRUE NOT ONCE WAS ABU BAKER, OMAR, UTHMAN AND OTHER main Sahhabah and ansar mentioned it's like they didn't even exist in this movie, which is weird because they were very close friends with prophet Muhammad who helped him with his entire mission, this movie was made by a shia, and we all know who's hate the main Sahhabah and ansar.
Most of the criticisms are quite pedantic and harsh. Given that this was perhaps the first movie on Islam and it was a good movie- as general message of Islam was well portrayed.
The first two 'inaccuracies' are a given as you mention, and we know that movies often differ from written work. Why does the first two inaccuracies even deserve a mention I don't quite understand- and why is this a major problem? Most movies do make adaptations and improvisation when the budget or practicality of depicting something accurately is too difficult. So long as the audience is aware of this, I don't see what the issue is. The mystical music is for the benefit of the audience, so why was there a need to mention that mystical music didn't follow him around?
Heavy underrrepresentation of sahabas was an issue, i admit- but again this is due to practical difficulties in trying to portray the Prophet's closest companions, so there obviously neeeded to be improvisations.
As for clean shaven companions- i think most people are sensible enough to know that these are just actors.
The 5th 'inaccuracy' is extremely common in the works of Seerah and can be found in the earliest books of Seerah. I don't know why this was something worth mentioning, surely they deserve some slack on this. Just because some narrations are weak, it does not mean its necessarily false- especially when there is a more authentic variation of the same event- “I am not more able to give that up for you than you are able to get me a firebrand from the sun” . Moreover, the Quran has numerous verses explaining how wretched a person is if he chooses this life over the next. Hence the statement that you consider to be weak, is in perfect harmony with the spirit of Islam.
6th innaccuracy- the issue of Allah being everywhere- how do you know the statement is meant to be literal? Allah says in the Quran "and We are closer to him than (his) jugular vein.”- so why was this picked out? When our parents say Allah is watching, he is everywhere, they do not mean he is literally there, but that he watches and knows.
A lot could be said about the rest- but suffice to say that most criticisms here are pedantic, and most 'unauthentic' narrations does have other authentic narrations or Quranic ayas to support at least in spirit, what you claim to be weak.
I think overall this is an excellent movie, the first of its kind, and there is a need for more.
no because the scholars have said its degrading to portray the sahabas RAdiyallahu anhum, plus the pagans used acting as worship. I think giving ppl books and helping them with video representation without acting is much better and true to the sunnah and respectful. oh and some sufis do say Allah is literally everywhere, I have seen this myself - they then use that to say I am with Allah and don't need to pray. Allah is with us with His Names and Attributes meaning we are encompassed by them.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 , the scholars differ on the issue of depicting the sahaba, and I think we should be more open to these differences. I think, so long as people are informed that these are actors and they cannot portray the Sahabas in the most accurate way and this is a portrayal as imagined by the actor or director- then i don't view this is a major problem- especially when the script was seen and approved by a group of scholars from Al Azhar.
Consider the reality that the vast majority of people, forget Muslims, do not read- so this is a good way to convey the Islamic message and trigger curiosity in our religion.
In any case, the issue of Allah being everywhere in this movie is an ambigious statement and frankly the criticisms are in the detail- not the overall message of the film. I see benefit in such films, especially in countering anti-Islamic sentiments in the West, and there should be more.
Personally, this film encouraged me to read more on the Seerah when I was young, and hence benefitted a lot as a result.
Take it just as a movie and take the good teachings out of it.
After watching this movie i learned (or may revised), that back in those days, when Islam was new, there were no such facilities like we have in modern age. Also, majority of people were not educated, but still the companions of the Greatest Prophet Mohammad (S.A.W) were so devoted that they were able to suffer any hardship for their faith.
And today we the people of this age, start complaining about even light discomforts.
Your points are so contradictory, if they depicted ali and Abu Bakr you would say it's forbidden if they put music its forbidden..... Just chill out already its a movie and if it benefits Islam just stop!
To the people reading this, watch the Arabic version of the film. It feels more complete due to increased runtime and actual Arabic actors playing the roles, no dubbing.
Jesus said be careful to those that claim Christ(savior of the world).
Matthew 24:4 JESUS answered, "Be careful that no one leads you astray! 5 Many will come in my name and claim to be the Christ(Savior of the World), and they will mislead many.
John 12:44 JESUS said loudly, "He who believes in me does not only believe in me, but also in the one who sent me. 45 And he who has seen me has also seen him who sent me. 46 I have come as the light of the world, so that those who trust in me will not remain in darkness
47 I am not the one who judges the person who hears my word, but does not want to follow it. For I did not come to judge the WORLD, but to SAVE IT.
Only those who remain faithful/firm to the Church build by Jesus through the Apostles will only be saved, Jesus said.
Matthew 24:13 But the one who REMAINS FIRM UNTIL THE END is the one who WILL BE SAVED.
Matthew 16:17 JESUS said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this truth has not been revealed to you by any man but by my Father who is in heaven.
18 And I say to you, you are PETER, and upon this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH and the gates of the underworld will not prevail against him.
The teaching in the Quran that Mohammad is the only way to God(Allah) CONTRADICT what the Lord Jesus is points out, that He is the only way through God(Father).
JOHN 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the WAY, the truth, and the life. NO ONE CAN COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME.
The Lord Jesus Christ said "Your INSTRUCTOR is ONE, the CHRIST." Which means his the only one authorized to teach and instruct Salvation and no one else.
MATTHEW 23:10 CALL NO ONE INSTRUCTOR, because your instructor is ONE, the CHRIST.
MATTHEW 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “ALL AUTHORITY in heaven and on earth has been given to ME(JESUS)."
I would like you to give resources to what you are saying please
How people love to criticize and challenge things that they don't gave full knowledge of, I will never understand! So many of us are stuck on our own opinion being the only one! STUDY, PEOPLE!
Wow this was surprisingly an eye opener. I haven't seen The Message for over maybe 15 years but never understood how much it imprinted my image of certain figures in Islam.
It makes me realise why images and depictions are forbidden in our religion as they can be so powerful in shaping our thoughts.
One of the ironies is that the shi'ite in making Hind Bint Utbah and Abu Sufyan out to be bitter, resentful and evil have shown themselves to be exactly that. It reveals the shia as having no nuance in their creed and that anyone remotely associated in their basket of baddies to also be depicated as pure evil and vice versa e.g. Abu Lulu. They come across like deranged obsessive ex partners out for retribution lol.
Actually that isn't the reason why they are haram.
Best film ever made MAA SHAA ALLAH
Hind Bint utba wasnt called akiletu'l-ekbad out of thin air. Yes hint wanted revenge, big time. With that said, yes she accepted Islam. But anyone can look it up.
Obvious this critic is sectarian and Anti-Shia. No film based on history or a human figure can be completely accurate in every aspect. This film is a excellent starting point for people to learn more about Islam and world history just appreciate it for that value.
TRUTH SHALL SET U.S. FREE ☪️❤️🏴☠️🙏🤲ALLAHU AKBAR. BEAUTIFUL DECIPHERING BY THE VIEW OF ANOTHER .INSHALLAH IS TIME TO MAKE ANOTHER DOCUMENTARY VERSION ( i man would never call these documentaries as movie)OF THE MESSAGE “UPDATED” CORRECTED WITH DETAILS.PLS COMMENT BELOW.
@ sunni defence what is your view on these so called Islamic movies? Clearly they have a huge draw ie they attract millions of audiences more than any Imam on a pulpit can ever do. Do you think such movies could be used to teach Islam to people under the right supervision and based on authentic narration?
Ok let's talk about dirlis ertugul show pls !!!
Clear cut Ottoman propaganda. Its a good fairy tale.
@@Anskurshaikh its a good show, the makers of the show stated that these stories are inspired by the figures in the sbow and is not fully historically accurate but some parts are
@@Anskurshaikh i dont understand why people hate anything made by turks
Sorry..
But I agree with the inaccuracies.. Maybe one day we will get it right..
Along with lion of the desert, Belated Director Mustapha, wrote horror movies .He was just trying to make it..
Yes..These are authentic refutations for the the little l know And Allah knows best
I have heard from Sunni sources that Ali did sleep in the Prophet's (SAW) bed. Can you provide a reference for why this is a false narration?
Bro just cuz the movie is accepted by Lebanon Shia community that don’t meant it ain’t accurate and also what is that beginning what does modern day Iran have to do with 600bc bro y’al biased asf no disrespect my opinion movie was accurate. and for all the people out there no such thing as Shia or sunnah it was a POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT AT FIrst NOT A RELIGIOUS One we are Muslim I’m a Shia if Ali ibn abi talib(ra) and a sunnah of Muhammad (as) im a Muslim that’s what that means I’m not a sunnah nor a Shia
Sorry if there’s any wrong spelling or grammar just typing fast
Jazak Allah Khair! Thsi was needed. May Allah reward you for taking out time to make this. If you have time, then please also talk about the other two movies made on story of prophet Muhammed (PBUH). one is made by persian film makers and thats more like blasphemous! Yet people are praising it (for its VFX), while the other one is animated cartoon.
If possible, you may share your review on Omar Series.
Oh please. It’s fiction. It’s not possible to do fiction without taking some liberties. Nothing wrong with that. This film is a masterpiece.
This was a nice movie
Enhanced faiths of many
Make unbelievers aware about Islam
Though this isn't completely wrong. A lot of your claims are just basic movie techniques. This is a movie, not a documentary.
4:11 Did you say that Allah is not everywhere?
Yes
How do you then explain this
Surah Qaaf, Verse 16
وَ لَقَدۡ خَلَقۡنَا الۡاِنۡسَانَ وَ نَعۡلَمُ مَا تُوَسۡوِسُ بِہٖ نَفۡسُہٗ ۚ ۖ وَ نَحۡنُ اَقۡرَبُ اِلَیۡہِ مِنۡ حَبۡلِ الۡوَرِیۡدِ ﴿۱۶﴾
And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein
@@tufailabbas309 He (the narrator) has been told so. So he is programmed to repeat that for the rest of his life. He extremely believes that he knows everything and others are wrong.
Why waste everyone's time giving lame arguments around the movie. It seems you're trying too hard for it so you can defend grandma Hind n Abu Sufiyan....Get out of this habit of cherry picking ahadith. Either you believe it or reject it. You make ahadith weak or strong as per your desires n likings. Focus on the Quran which is pure n free from weak n strong narrations. But you're afraid cos following Quran alone will make people one which you don't want!!!