since when have trees been non-renewable? Plastics should be scaled back as much as possible - microplastics are the new deet. But there's no reason why we cannot have hemp, cotton totes etc, or aluminum crates
Yea that is how we made our snack money walking the roads for soft drink bottles to turn in for a nickel each. Five or six would get you a Coke and a Hershey bar back then.
Damn straight. I remember when the local Coca-Cola bottling plant closed down. I am still stunned that Mexico is still that far ahead of the stupidity. Practicality Rules!
@@shirleyb2896 eh, tempting as it is I would say not. Im a moderate by nature and its way too easy to replace on flavor of crazy with another. “Draining the swap” is an excellent idea but I don’t want a bog in its place. Besides, my personal theory is MAGA and WOKE have a reciprocal relationship. They feed off of and simultaneously create each other.
I don't buy/use the thicker grocery bags; I buy different sizes of trash liners now. People I know who do get the thinker grocery bags also buy rolls of plastic bags now.
I am guilty of buying/using those cloth grocery bags like a European. But then my friend inherited three cats from his aunt, so I just get the disposable plastic bags to give to him for cleaning their litter boxes. Now I either gave away the cloth bags or saved the ones I like as tote bags.
Back in the day they didn't want us reusing brown paper bags because roaches were supposedly on the bags. They like the glue. CA is ridiculous. I finally left the only home I knew after almost fifty-six years.
As did I, back in 2018 after being born and grew up there. Granted, I lived in a few other parts of the country for a year on average, or traveled for work, but I stand by my decision in permanently leaving. My whole family left California. It is intolerable.
The irony is...we probably wouldn't have plastic bags, if not for the environmentalists trying to ban/reduce logging..paper is definitely recyclable. So are trees, cut one down, plant another one..rinse, repeat
But, they release so much CO2. Obviously using plastic bags so much better even though they take hundreds of years to degrade and cause even more environmental damage.
@@me38443What? Trees sequester CO2 as cellulose, and it pretty much remains cellulose until it is combusted or consumed by bacteria and released back into the environment as various gases. The more trees you turn into paper and the more trees you plant to replace them, the more carbon you have captured from the atmosphere and turned into usable products - products which can be more easily recycled into other products. And at the end of their life cycle, instead of just throwing paper products into landfills where they will slowly release carbon back into the atmosphere, it can be processed into biofuels to run in diesel generators that maximize efficiency and minimize carbon emissions. Rinse, repeat, as the OP said. It can be a pretty decent "carbon neutral" process, relatively speaking.
4:50 you are 100% correct about most recyclable just goes to the landfill anyway in 2006 i was a college student, I got in to an argument with my uncle during thanksgiving about recycling. he said there is no point in recycling plastic since it goes to the landfills (and this is woke Massachusetts). he told me to go look into it, i did, and it was true!!! only thing recycled was glass, metal, and commercial cardboard. the plastic mostly goes to landfill besides HDPE and PET. and after China, Vietnam, Thailand banned western plastic waste import in 2018. ALL the plastic recycling goes to the landfill. plastic recycling is a SCAM.
Yet, I remember seeing how some communities in California will dig through your garbage and fine you if they find "recyclables". Not only do we waste money to have separate "recycling" pick up, but we also pay for people to dig through garbage cans and write infractions.
Even cardboard gets tossed into the landfill after you put it in the blue recycling bin. The recycling bins that were sold to us are only there to charge us more for trash pickup.
@rockstarofredondo yeah cardboard need to be trimmed to size, bundled, that's why I said commercial cardboard. Like waste stream managed by companies. Residential recycling need to be overhauled. Just glass, aluminum, steel, copper. No plastic no Residential paper
I remember when paper bags were removed due to ‘saving the forests’. You know, those plants that grow by stripping carbon off CO2 and creating cellulose, or the stuff that makes up trees. God forbid we sequester carbon in landfills by making paper….
They banned cutting downs trees and managing our forests to create a sustainable and renewable resource of lumber. This in turn drove up the price of all things made from trees. Instead North America now imports foreign lumber to compensate while lumber mills close down.
☮️ ✌️ “Groovy, maaann!” Yeah, these tree huggers don’t know what they’re doing and know even less about out environmentalism, it’s all about what feels good to them.
No it's literally coming. They're making 'butter' from "carbon"." And ppl have a carbon cost and this ZERO EMISSIONS won't stop with cars.. they're coming for our cows, our pets etc. Soon as they get us to give up our ability to defend selves
ALDI has people rediscovering how small town grocery stores worked 60 years ago. Product comes to the store in boxes. Those boxes are left accessible. Collect your items in a box, take them home in a box, reuse the box. No bags needed.
I preferred the old paperbags that you repurpose to cover books, wrap packages, burn in the fire place and they broke down in the environment much faster than these plastic bags.
The whole thing was stupid. They didn't ban bags they just made us pay for them. We all still use plastic bags, we just have to pay for them. Totally stupid. Who gets the money for al those bags?
10¢ is nothing. What century are you complaining from? 50¢ easily is added to anything anyway. What's another 50¢? If after a year of 50¢ checkouts, you paid the $26 and you're that broke, you need to have a yard sale to make some money. So just remember to bring the reusables. There's satin ones which compact right down to fit in your pocket.
As a general rule progressive laws like minimum wage, price controls, bans, etc always end up backfiring and making the problem worse. The free market almost always figures out the most efficient use of resources. In this context, efficient means least amount of waste. So the plastic bag "ban" was inevitably going to increase waste.
Yes, it is best for the free market to handle it. Usually, in a free market, there is a honest person who does want to make a change and is willing to put the work in. On top of that, people would be willing to donate to such a company as well. However, when government gets involved, taxes get implemented and somehow the issue gets worse. On top of that, other issues start to appear. Many Libertarians consider tax theft because the original purpose of taxes never get addressed.
We have this awful law in the UK. The irony is that the free market already found a solution - by making the free bags biodegradable. But that wasn't good enough for the government, and we have expensive, large, reusable baga being dumped everywhere instead.
I am old enough to remember when things weren't packaged within an inch of their lives. The bulky packages were instituted as a defense against shoplifting. It's a human problem.
We have not had plastic bags in stores in Colorado for months now. If you can still get deli meat in plastic, premade meals in plastic etc etc. it makes not sense.
In CA, because of COVID-19, stores told customers they COULD NOT bring any bags into the store. You had to only use NEW bags every time you went shopping. This was when people were just getting used to reusing the new bags.
My biggest grief is that they made us pay $.10 for every bag to pay for this program. Who exactly is profiting off of it? We should just go back to the old plastic bags and end this over, reaching tax on us.
In England the supermarket I use charge iro of 20cents for a plastic bag for life, however, when it's no longer useable they will replace it for free and then recycle the old bag.
What are you disabled? I like to bag my own , good exercise. But I wouldn’t worry about it unless you can’t. If your lazy well that’s a different story.
@@purplespeckledappleeater8738 and gives them a summer job and keeps them out of mischief? back in the 80s, sometimes grocery stores offered carry out service, especially for those who are like mothers or the elderly.
Driving out in the country in Morocco, the scrub fields had HUNDREDS of black and white plastic bags attached to the weeds, billowing in the winds. I commented "Oh look, there's the plastic bag fields where they harvest their plastic bags!", because that's what it looked like, a bag farm. Nobody cares outside of the US, and if you haven't noticed, nobody is getting pulled over or ticketed for littering anymore, either. part of that is because a lot of these folks coming from other countries haven't had Woodsy Owl drilling into them since they were 3 not to toss stuff out the window, so they don't see an issue with it; and the police don't want to pull these folks over because it's "xenophobic" and profiling and racist. Reap what you sow.
@@ArtStoneUSI keep saying , they have to bring those commercials back. I agree with the poster here. I keep saying the same thing. It’s not being racist. It’s just fact. Ever been to south America or other parts of world? Tak about litter! It’s unreal! They need to be taught!!!!
husband speaking age 81.8 local Winco has a recycle bin inside the store near the checkout isles. Hundreds of mostly unused bags are thrwn into this bin every day because folks grab a bunch at one time, or they are not cut properly at the factory, they won't separate when a customer tries to get one off the rack. I go in at least once a week, I go to this bin and I can get 20 to 30 new unused bags and I take them home. Some I send to the Philippines to use there, others I use here for small waste basket liners.
Progressive policy making seems to be something on par with brainstorming in a kindergarten class; if it sounds superficially nice and enough kids enthusiastically shout, it passes for sound policy. Then, when the unicorns, chocolate rivers, and gumdrop rains fail to materialize, blame conservatives for not doing enough to make the dream come true.
And it is illegal for auto stores to hookup there ob2 scanners. Corruption. The stores want to do this. They sell you the part the scanner indicates. How is that for the people? Make you go to the expensive mechanic.
I think only 10% of recycled plastic actually reused. All the rest of plastic recycled ends up in landfills. So being charged to recycle bins is a scam.
I reuse single use plastic bags as trash can liners. Without them, I would just end up buying boxes of plastic trash can liners, which are a LOT thicker.
We chose to use reusable cloth bags 23 years ago for grocery shopping. We save the plastic bags when do the occasional shopping at other stores and use those bags for garbage cans in our bathrooms. We've saved throwing away over 15,000 plastic bags. I'm a conservative Republican and reducing garbage when possible is easy. Our family of 3 adults throw away less that 1/2 garbage can of garbage a week.
Not CA but my liberal state did the same, the old bags i used to use as trash can liners for my small cans, etc... unless they broke they always got reused at least once. Personally I mostly preferred paper bags,I have both a fireplace and wood stove and I'd use the paper bags to collect up small branch bits, etc,id bring in a d burn the whole bag... I do have a bunch of reusable cloth bags I try to remember to put back in the car after a shopping run.
The Homeless people buy old motorhomes that don't run or drive and have them pulled to a vacant parking spot and dropped. Even if ticketed The tow companies don't want to tow and impound them and sell them for salvage . And the Fire department has to put it out and deal with the hazardous waste and injury treatment of the occupants. 7:52
Might have something to do with the lunacy a few years back where CA banned the use of reusable bags in grocery stores because they might have cooties or something. It was the better part of a year shoppers could not bring in their own bags and had to use the plastic "reusable" bags, but then you could not bring those "reusable" bags back the next shopping trip! For a while, they waived the charge for those bags, then put the 10 cent charge back in place. I'm still working through the huge pile of those bags I accumulated, but I imagine many got tossed as they piled up in people's houses.
Go figure. Politicians legislate laws trying to fix problems that don't exist without any thought or data and they end up actually making what they thought was a problem even worse.
Even if there is a problem in CA, the state asks the agencies that actually help the people what needs to be done. Then make a policy completely opposite or something else whacked. Now agencies can't do what actually works or they get shut down.
They need to stop blaming the consumer. Plastic was pushed on the population. How did we survive without plastic before WW2? We could solve this problem quickly via consumer packaging changes. They should just use paper bags. It is not as nice as plastic, but if that is all they offered at the store, consumers would keep on truckin. There is also plastic alternatives which look like plastic but are made from plant fibers that dissolve in water after a few hours. They can just stop using plastic in the supply chain and consumers will adapt. We don't even need to come up with new tech. We still package with glass, aluminum, paper, wood, etc. and have new tech around plant fibers and such.
Cant use paper bags, enviromentalists will think loggers will destroy the enviorment. (despite the fact loggers want to preserve the forests much better than most and often use selective harvesting and not clear cutting.)
I currently live in Texas, where we have no such bans. However, not long ago, a local fast-food outlet accidentally ordered some of those cardboard straws. They were the worst! Not only were they hard to use, they added a nasty 'toilet paper" taste to the drinks. The management had to apologize to the customers, with a promise that the mistake would be rectified ASAP. They have since returned to using standard plastic straws. If I ever return to Cali, to visit relatives, I will bring my own pack of plastic straws, just in case I visit a food franchise. If anyone in Cali has any complaints, they can tell it to the middle finger!
WHY!!!!! would you EVER return to Californicate ANY WAY!!!! It may be pretty to look at, BUT SO IS A WHORE!!! compleat with the acompining garbage + cost of ALL kinds, Left there 40yrs ago and dont miss it a BIT!!!! 👹💩💩💩!!
You know I remember when I was a teenager that California wanted to save the trees so you had to pay 2 cents if you wanted a paper bag while plastic was free. So the clerks had to ask you "paper or plastic". And double bagging meant 4 cents. This was passed the same year that California voted for the lottery, which was to be used to make it so taxpayers would no longer have to pay school taxes because the lottery proceeds would be used for the schools and there would be so much money for the schools it'd take away the onus of gambling. Well we still pay huge school taxes for classes that now teach our children how to sexually pleasure themselves and grownups while not teaching them the three R's. Also genderbread theory and how to engage in sex with your buddy of ten by putting illustrated books on oral sex in school libraries. Books you can't read aloud to a room full of adults in school board meetings!!!!
CA decided to go from the thin one-time use bags to much thicker multi-use bags. But as far as I could ever find (I did some research some years back on this), no one ever pondered the idea that most shoppers are not going to re-use those thick plastic bags. So essentially, they went from thin plastic bags to thick ones with everyone scratching their heads why there's more plastic going in the waste.
I never throw away a bag I get at the grocery store. It's used either over and over for more groceries or used for trash. It goes into the landfill not the ocean.
Paper bags are ultimately recycled in my household. They go into my paper shredder. I take the shreds and stir them into the compost or into the garden soil. It adds more organics to replenish all the organics taken out of the soil in the form of vegetables, fruit, root vegetables, and tomatoes.
I ask the grocery store for 50/50 paper and plastic, depending on what I need to repurpose them for - trash or recycle. I wince in horror every time my own state legislature proposes a ban on plastic bags. Our lawmakers don't understand how we live.
Don't get me started on paper straws. That is one of the most idiotic things. The straw is flat after a couple sips. I use the plastic bags from Kroger to pick up trash around the neighborhood or use as bathroom trash can. I don't let them go to waste.
Ya I remember when Costco changed to those things. First time I got a drink there the straw made my soda taste nasty so I stopped using their straws all together. Whatever they use on those things can't be healthy.
@@elisekellett2378 Nah, I've heard too many impaling stories. What I use are hard plastic washable straws. I guess you could still get impaled on them, but I figure they're more likely to shatter than metal straws.
It has become such a pain to be in CA. We are now such a nanny state. My $1.00 TJ reusable bags have degraded in the car heat after a number of years (probably 5-10 years). I had to buy a box of the older thinner plastic bags to use in my pooper scooper because of the ban. The thicker bags don’t work in the pooper scooper. Plastic straw ban is such a bunch of BS. I doubt the supermarket makes any money on the $0.10 thicker plastic bag that the CA state makes them charge as a nuisance “tax.”
My hallway closet is slam full of grocery bags. I use them as my small waste bags for my small trash cans throughout my apartment. I'm technically recycling them 🤷🏼♂️
I fold my re-usable plastic bags down to small squares. It's something to do with my hands while I am watching TH-cam videos like this one. Once folded I stack them up and put them neatly into a re-usable bag, which I keep in my car. When I go to the store I just take those neatly stacked bags with me and the cashier and bagger love that I have such a nice package. I also have a couple of those six-pack bags for wine bottles in there, they are handy too. Apparently people who actually re-use the re-usable bags are relatively rare. But I don't throw mine away until they get torn or the package of chicken leaks in there.
Try Folding your bag into a triangle like an American flag. Lengthwise fold in half, and half again so you got a long strip, then fold triangles so it's A compact triangle and tuck loose end into fold flap.
I hate to break it to you, but recycling itself is a scam. Everything winds up getting transferred again and again until the last guy just dumps it somewhere.
I bought and have been using a canvas bag in the early 1990's when I lived in Texas. I live in Washington now, since 1996, and it used to be people cared about the environment. Not so much now. People have become dirty, lazy or just don't care anymore. I'm 64 and learned to reduce, reuse and recycle in the late 1960's early 1970's from grade school and Cub Scouts.
I used to reuse the thin plastic bags before the ban. The ban only put more money in the store's pockets because people don't care about paying 10 cents.
I save the plastic grocery bags because they're great trash bags. I'm a fulltime RVer and they work amazing well for that. I don't do the "bring your own bag" crap. I expect bags at the stores.
Here in WA we have those same thicker bags (8 cents each), and I HATE them. The thinner ones are not “single use.” Lots of people reuse them for many things…pet waste, yard waste, trash bin liners, etc etc. The thicker ones are NOT good for this because they’re just too inflexible. When I go to neighboring states that don’t have this ridiculous bag mandate, I hoard the “real” bags when I go to the stores. 😡
Wait till it becomes too expensive to dispose of EV batteries, and salvage yards refuse to accept EVs, leading to abandoned Teslas all over California.
But, there will be a new tax in California, that everyone will have to pay, for the proper disposal of EV batteries. Then in 30 years there will be a new tax to recover those batteries and dispose of them in a "BETTER" way. Rinse, repeat.....
More people are getting their food delivered rather than going to the store, buying groceries and cooking. This adds much more disposable plastic waste. There's a plastic bag, clam shell package and disposable utensils for every meal!
I'm from California and what I do when I go to the market at least a couple of times a month as I pay extra for those thick plastic bags and then I use them for trash,,,🤣🤣🤣
Just go online and buy a box of t-shirt thank you bags. They’re super cheap. Use them however you want, then throw them in the garage bin. Store clerks are always a little stunned when they try to sell me a bunch of their ‘approved’ plastic bags, for like a dime each, and I just say, “no thanks”, and pull out my own old school thank you bags.
Calif. replaced thin disposable bags that disintegrate quickly with new much thicker longer disposable plastic bags that cost 10 cents. What could go wrong? Don't forget we went to plastic to save the trees.
Weird. Where I live we have mostly canvas shopping bags and foldable crates we often keep in the car after shopping for easy availability. You hardly see people buying store plastic bags here.
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Environmentalists claim that plastic bags end up in the ocean. I suggest that these organizations pay a few thousand staffers to surround California landfills 24/7/365 with observers so they can catch whoever is digging up the plastic bags out of the dirt, putting them on big trucks, and driving them to the beach to dump into the ocean.
Bringing used bags into a clean environment where food is purchased is a bad idea. Fools leave bags in the garage. The trunk of their cars. Wherever and bring those dirty bags back into the store.
Not a surprise. Banned in Canada. So instead of getting several uses out of a bag before it becomes a litter holder, I need to buy reusable bags that last maybe ten times if lucky, I must buy bags for litter.
I try to keep my TWO insulated bags in my car....and then when I unpack I put them in my closet and forget them. I've NEVER asked for bags because if I'm sensitive to 20 CENTS for another soda, then HELL if I'm paying 10 CENTS PER BAG. I just tell them back in the cart. I LOVE taking my time to load my car. It slows me down in my busy world. Just make EVERYTHING cardboard and Aluminum. 95% of Aluminum EVER MINED is STILL in use today and Cardboard is nice to recycle.
@@ArtStoneUS depends on the paper, there is a mill not far from where I live, and while it does not exactly smell good from what I understand MES (local environmental) it’s non toxic. Even if it is though, I can’t imagine its equal or worse to plastic in terms of the total toxicity across the board.
Here in Sweden we had a plastic carry bag penalty tax. It was meant in order to decrease the use of plastic and plastic waste. The result was an increase in the use of plastic bags as people didn't use their old carry bag as a garbage bag, and instead bought dedicated plastic trashbags that was only used for trash. What is even more funny is that the tax was deemed a success. It did remove a certain type of plastic, even if the overall plastic was increased.
I'm big on waste reduction, and I like the concept of going to something more sustainable BUT the moment i heard about an actual ban rather than trying to promote benefits I knew this was going to get nasty. You can't just change behaviors with a ban like that, and I only resent the bags after 3 decades of watching the environment decay and I don't know how to compell that to others in a meaningful way so you'd never see me force it on others either I guess I'm lucky that I don't have a homeless problem here at this time so I guess I'm "allowed" to worry about this and be a hippie about it.
Ban bags , but not drugs .
Only in California.
Need to ban the Democrat Party permanently
Drugs lead to population decline, which in turn leads to less bags.
lol the bags were never banned at all just taxed them
That jersey too
Think maybe should explore the idea of making jobs where people can sort the garbage
I'm old and remember when we were told that paper bags are bad because they are made from non-renewable resources. So we had to go to plastic bags.
since when have trees been non-renewable? Plastics should be scaled back as much as possible - microplastics are the new deet. But there's no reason why we cannot have hemp, cotton totes etc, or aluminum crates
I still remember glass bottles. Recyclable, and not drinking chemicals in every bottle.
Oh I don’t think you’re supposed to do that
Yea that is how we made our snack money walking the roads for soft drink bottles to turn in for a nickel each. Five or six would get you a Coke and a Hershey bar back then.
Damn straight. I remember when the local Coca-Cola bottling plant closed down.
I am still stunned that Mexico is still that far ahead of the stupidity. Practicality Rules!
I still remember them banning recycling recyclables such as recyclable plastics and glass.
And worth 5 cents for return
Cali is the leader in stupid
Sadly they are a major exporter as well.
It's like they're running experiments to see how awful they can govern
FOR SURE!!!! LOOK AT WASHINGTON STATE!!!!, and Oregon, you know,------ THE LEFT COAST??!!
Washington state is trying to take the lead.
@@dbergerac9632sad but true from SoCali. PS: Red SoCali
Cali has become something of a warning system on policy, what ever they do, do the opposite!
Dems aren’t smart but Dems aren’t smart enough to know it’s them it’s always been them
Maybe their Federal election votes should be challenged? CA & NY & every other “blue” State?
@@shirleyb2896 eh, tempting as it is I would say not. Im a moderate by nature and its way too easy to replace on flavor of crazy with another. “Draining the swap” is an excellent idea but I don’t want a bog in its place. Besides, my personal theory is MAGA and WOKE have a reciprocal relationship. They feed off of and simultaneously create each other.
Bad English Policy come from France but spreads from New Zealand bunkers eastward. California is where stupidity makes landfall.
That's all laws that are arbitrary and unjust.
Anyone else used to use the now banned bags as garbage bags, etc?
You have to buy a bigger bag for your light trash now, further increasing the plastic waste.
yeah usually for the bathroom there were even holders made just for them also good for car trash when cleaning out or something
I don't buy/use the thicker grocery bags; I buy different sizes of trash liners now.
People I know who do get the thinker grocery bags also buy rolls of plastic bags now.
Seems like most people had little waste paper baskets lined with plastic bags from groceries.
Yep. We have to buy fresh, new waste bags now rather that reusing.
Those reusable bags are great waste basket liners, dirty cat litter receptacles, etc.
So are the disposable ones
Exactly! And if you’re crafty you can do a whole bunch of repurposing with them!
Now that I can’t use those for my garbage cans, i have to buy the thicker glad bags.
We’ve been using them as garbage bags for 30 years so we don’t buy garbage can bags.
I am guilty of buying/using those cloth grocery bags like a European. But then my friend inherited three cats from his aunt, so I just get the disposable plastic bags to give to him for cleaning their litter boxes. Now I either gave away the cloth bags or saved the ones I like as tote bags.
Back in the day they didn't want us reusing brown paper bags because roaches were supposedly on the bags. They like the glue. CA is ridiculous. I finally left the only home I knew after almost fifty-six years.
Smart move.
@@jimwhitsett4736 Agreed. Been telling friends and family to GTFO of Calif for 30+ years. In all that time, only 2 have done so. 😕
I normally get my groceries in paper when shopping on military bases and never had a roach problem. Just an excuse for nasty people.
As did I, back in 2018 after being born and grew up there. Granted, I lived in a few other parts of the country for a year on average, or traveled for work, but I stand by my decision in permanently leaving. My whole family left California. It is intolerable.
I make my own fabric bags, which are washable.
It was never about saving the world but to make more money for companies.
Why doesn't Killaifornia ban crime !
Probably because they don't want a 1000% increase in it!
@@edb3877 Offering a plastic straw to a customer who didn't ask for it IS a crime.
libs love crime
Redistribution of wealth. A progressive paradise.
Kommifornia banned making crime illegal.
Bur EVERYTHING else you buy comes in plastic
The irony of it all
And it often doesn’t even have to come in plastic. Large bulky thick plastic packaging in layers is on so many items we buy.
The irony is...we probably wouldn't have plastic bags, if not for the environmentalists trying to ban/reduce logging..paper is definitely recyclable. So are trees, cut one down, plant another one..rinse, repeat
And bio degradable, and burnable, and renewable, and non toxic…
But, they release so much CO2. Obviously using plastic bags so much better even though they take hundreds of years to degrade and cause even more environmental damage.
@@me38443What? Trees sequester CO2 as cellulose, and it pretty much remains cellulose until it is combusted or consumed by bacteria and released back into the environment as various gases. The more trees you turn into paper and the more trees you plant to replace them, the more carbon you have captured from the atmosphere and turned into usable products - products which can be more easily recycled into other products. And at the end of their life cycle, instead of just throwing paper products into landfills where they will slowly release carbon back into the atmosphere, it can be processed into biofuels to run in diesel generators that maximize efficiency and minimize carbon emissions. Rinse, repeat, as the OP said. It can be a pretty decent "carbon neutral" process, relatively speaking.
People are concerned about roaches because they like the paper bag glue someone said here in the comments
So well said and never, ever talked about by tree huggers who destroyed an enormous industry and gave us plastic waste.
4:50 you are 100% correct about most recyclable just goes to the landfill anyway
in 2006 i was a college student, I got in to an argument with my uncle during thanksgiving about recycling. he said there is no point in recycling plastic since it goes to the landfills (and this is woke Massachusetts). he told me to go look into it, i did, and it was true!!! only thing recycled was glass, metal, and commercial cardboard. the plastic mostly goes to landfill besides HDPE and PET. and after China, Vietnam, Thailand banned western plastic waste import in 2018. ALL the plastic recycling goes to the landfill. plastic recycling is a SCAM.
Yet, I remember seeing how some communities in California will dig through your garbage and fine you if they find "recyclables". Not only do we waste money to have separate "recycling" pick up, but we also pay for people to dig through garbage cans and write infractions.
O my
Karen’s in California
Even cardboard gets tossed into the landfill after you put it in the blue recycling bin. The recycling bins that were sold to us are only there to charge us more for trash pickup.
@rockstarofredondo yeah cardboard need to be trimmed to size, bundled, that's why I said commercial cardboard. Like waste stream managed by companies.
Residential recycling need to be overhauled. Just glass, aluminum, steel, copper.
No plastic no Residential paper
I remember when paper bags were removed due to ‘saving the forests’. You know, those plants that grow by stripping carbon off CO2 and creating cellulose, or the stuff that makes up trees.
God forbid we sequester carbon in landfills by making paper….
They banned cutting downs trees and managing our forests to create a sustainable and renewable resource of lumber. This in turn drove up the price of all things made from trees. Instead North America now imports foreign lumber to compensate while lumber mills close down.
☮️ ✌️ “Groovy, maaann!” Yeah, these tree huggers don’t know what they’re doing and know even less about out environmentalism, it’s all about what feels good to them.
I'm curious when California is going to start taxing people for breathing the air. They taxes everything. I lived there for almost fifty-six years.
Soon, it's coming.
Yeah, now to create a flatulence tax for all of those who enjoy eating beans and fatty foods. It's for the climate, ya know?
No it's literally coming. They're making 'butter' from "carbon"." And ppl have a carbon cost and this ZERO EMISSIONS won't stop with cars.. they're coming for our cows, our pets etc. Soon as they get us to give up our ability to defend selves
@@edb3877first things first. They're focusing on cow farts now, they'll get to us eventually.
We ARE TAXED FOR BREATHING AIR! I can't breathe anymore
ALDI has people rediscovering how small town grocery stores worked 60 years ago. Product comes to the store in boxes. Those boxes are left accessible. Collect your items in a box, take them home in a box, reuse the box. No bags needed.
I preferred the old paperbags that you repurpose to cover books, wrap packages, burn in the fire place and they broke down in the environment much faster than these plastic bags.
My parents used paper trash bags to collect paper waste and burned it in the Winter or during the Summer on bonfires.
The whole thing was stupid. They didn't ban bags they just made us pay for them. We all still use plastic bags, we just have to pay for them. Totally stupid. Who gets the money for al those bags?
10¢ is nothing. What century are you complaining from? 50¢ easily is added to anything anyway. What's another 50¢? If after a year of 50¢ checkouts, you paid the $26 and you're that broke, you need to have a yard sale to make some money. So just remember to bring the reusables. There's satin ones which compact right down to fit in your pocket.
And having a small charge is incentive to bring your own.
As a general rule progressive laws like minimum wage, price controls, bans, etc always end up backfiring and making the problem worse. The free market almost always figures out the most efficient use of resources. In this context, efficient means least amount of waste. So the plastic bag "ban" was inevitably going to increase waste.
Yes, it is best for the free market to handle it. Usually, in a free market, there is a honest person who does want to make a change and is willing to put the work in. On top of that, people would be willing to donate to such a company as well. However, when government gets involved, taxes get implemented and somehow the issue gets worse. On top of that, other issues start to appear. Many Libertarians consider tax theft because the original purpose of taxes never get addressed.
We have this awful law in the UK. The irony is that the free market already found a solution - by making the free bags biodegradable. But that wasn't good enough for the government, and we have expensive, large, reusable baga being dumped everywhere instead.
To me. Those little plastic bags ('T-Shirt bags') are uber-useful mini trash bags and really help keep my residence neat and clean.
Single use plastic bags bad BUT everything is packaged in single use plastics. Batteries, vegetables, ready to eat items, etc.
I am old enough to remember when things weren't packaged within an inch of their lives. The bulky packages were instituted as a defense against shoplifting. It's a human problem.
they wll ban food n ca anyway. fake food don't go bad
So, everything these politicians are doing is having the opposite effect
afterthey make ther profts, they blame people.
We have not had plastic bags in stores in Colorado for months now. If you can still get deli meat in plastic, premade meals in plastic etc etc. it makes not sense.
produce dept bags all kinds of apples, lettuce, carrots etc. prepackaged in plastic
In CA, because of COVID-19, stores told customers they COULD NOT bring any bags into the store. You had to only use NEW bags every time you went shopping. This was when people were just getting used to reusing the new bags.
Keep moving the goal posts. It's intentional.
People entering the store masked up with suspicious bags seems like the entire plot of covid. :/
Nothing fails as spectacularly as a government plan.
The purpose of government is to create problems that only the government can solve, usually with the price of loss of freedom
My biggest grief is that they made us pay $.10 for every bag to pay for this program. Who exactly is profiting off of it? We should just go back to the old plastic bags and end this over, reaching tax on us.
Same in WA and once we started paying there was a bag shortage n now all the bags up here are way lower quality. Something definitely stinks
I would like to know which Senators and Congressmen (and Pelosi and AOC) has stock in the companies who make these "reusable" bags.
NO we should bring our OWN BAGS, cloth lasts longest. With New ScUM IN, then he will say we cant bring our own in too ! Hes a mental case
In England the supermarket I use charge iro of 20cents for a plastic bag for life, however, when it's no longer useable they will replace it for free and then recycle the old bag.
Even the sellers on Amazon have increased the price of the biodegradable T-shirt bags that I use to $0.10 per bag. 4 years ago the price was $0.03.
Since they started this, I've also noticed that the baggers don't help men to bag their groceries. You have to do it yourself.
Have to pay now too whereas before the bags were free. I wonder how this money will be used to help the environment? The whole thing is ridiculous.
What are you disabled? I like to bag my own , good exercise. But I wouldn’t worry about it unless you can’t. If your lazy well that’s a different story.
@@Juliana65The money just goes to the grocery store, it isn't used to help the environment.
I'd rather bag myself. Who came up with the idea of letting teenagers pack groceries.
@@purplespeckledappleeater8738 and gives them a summer job and keeps them out of mischief? back in the 80s, sometimes grocery stores offered carry out service, especially for those who are like mothers or the elderly.
Driving out in the country in Morocco, the scrub fields had HUNDREDS of black and white plastic bags attached to the weeds, billowing in the winds. I commented "Oh look, there's the plastic bag fields where they harvest their plastic bags!", because that's what it looked like, a bag farm.
Nobody cares outside of the US, and if you haven't noticed, nobody is getting pulled over or ticketed for littering anymore, either. part of that is because a lot of these folks coming from other countries haven't had Woodsy Owl drilling into them since they were 3 not to toss stuff out the window, so they don't see an issue with it; and the police don't want to pull these folks over because it's "xenophobic" and profiling and racist. Reap what you sow.
Exactly
The litter problem has gotten noticeably worse the past few years.
And the native American Chief shedding a tear
@@ArtStoneUSI keep saying , they have to bring those commercials back.
I agree with the poster here. I keep saying the same thing. It’s not being racist. It’s just fact. Ever been to south America or other parts of world? Tak about litter! It’s unreal! They need to be taught!!!!
@@ArtStoneUS That Chief character was played by a New Yorker of Italian descent.
I used to just throw away those little flimsy single-use plastic bags. Now I throw away the heavy thicker plastic bags.
husband speaking age 81.8 local Winco has a recycle bin inside the store near the checkout isles. Hundreds of mostly unused bags are thrwn into
this bin every day because folks grab a bunch at one time, or they are not cut properly at the factory, they won't separate when a customer tries to get one
off the rack. I go in at least once a week, I go to this bin and I can get 20 to 30 new unused bags and I take them home. Some I send to the Philippines to use
there, others I use here for small waste basket liners.
Progressive policy making seems to be something on par with brainstorming in a kindergarten class; if it sounds superficially nice and enough kids enthusiastically shout, it passes for sound policy. Then, when the unicorns, chocolate rivers, and gumdrop rains fail to materialize, blame conservatives for not doing enough to make the dream come true.
Well said
And it is illegal for auto stores to hookup there ob2 scanners. Corruption. The stores want to do this. They sell you the part the scanner indicates. How is that for the people? Make you go to the expensive mechanic.
On 🎯 and we’ll said
soon they wll ban beathng and eatng. and you have to get a vax every day.
I'm old enough to remember when we had to switch from Paper bags to Plastic to save the planet, now's it's switching from Plastic to Paper. haha
Ban politicians not bags
I think only 10% of recycled plastic actually reused. All the rest of plastic recycled ends up in landfills. So being charged to recycle bins is a scam.
It's less than 10 percent.
I reuse single use plastic bags as trash can liners. Without them, I would just end up buying boxes of plastic trash can liners, which are a LOT thicker.
As a Californian visiting Alaska I was totally surprised to find out that Alaska does not recycle at all. Yet its still beautiful.
California is an example of what not to do in every way of life.
We chose to use reusable cloth bags 23 years ago for grocery shopping. We save the plastic bags when do the occasional shopping at other stores and use those bags for garbage cans in our bathrooms. We've saved throwing away over 15,000 plastic bags. I'm a conservative Republican and reducing garbage when possible is easy. Our family of 3 adults throw away less that 1/2 garbage can of garbage a week.
Not CA but my liberal state did the same, the old bags i used to use as trash can liners for my small cans, etc... unless they broke they always got reused at least once. Personally I mostly preferred paper bags,I have both a fireplace and wood stove and I'd use the paper bags to collect up small branch bits, etc,id bring in a d burn the whole bag... I do have a bunch of reusable cloth bags I try to remember to put back in the car after a shopping run.
I haven't used a straw since I gave up snorting coke 40 yrs ago
What?!?? You didn’t use those little plastic coffee stirrer spoons from Macdonald’s?
Heathen.
The dollar bills though....
That was a good time to quit. It all is contaminated with fent now.
Every single idea they have ends up like this. Nothing they think is a good idea ever actually works
The Homeless people buy old motorhomes that don't run or drive and have them pulled to a vacant parking spot and dropped. Even if ticketed The tow companies don't want to tow and impound them and sell them for salvage . And the Fire department has to put it out and deal with the hazardous waste and injury treatment of the occupants. 7:52
Then they not homeless, living in a immoblie home.
When I was growing up, paper bags were our trash container in the kitchen. Lol
Kites were made
Might have something to do with the lunacy a few years back where CA banned the use of reusable bags in grocery stores because they might have cooties or something. It was the better part of a year shoppers could not bring in their own bags and had to use the plastic "reusable" bags, but then you could not bring those "reusable" bags back the next shopping trip! For a while, they waived the charge for those bags, then put the 10 cent charge back in place. I'm still working through the huge pile of those bags I accumulated, but I imagine many got tossed as they piled up in people's houses.
In Cali, the new thick bags are free to everyone using EBT.
Go figure. Politicians legislate laws trying to fix problems that don't exist without any thought or data and they end up actually making what they thought was a problem even worse.
True
Even if there is a problem in CA, the state asks the agencies that actually help the people what needs to be done. Then make a policy completely opposite or something else whacked. Now agencies can't do what actually works or they get shut down.
Government in action
dems are passng all these blls to harm people.
Plastic bags put into your garbage can do not wind up in the ocean
They may blow out of the landfills and make their way to the ocean, depending on location.
Reasonable people use plastic bags, when they poop out in public. -California innovates.
Speaking of poop, will the ban on plastic bags also allow dog walkers to leave their puppy poop where it falls? Not exactly Earth friendly.
Must be CALIFORNICATE is running out of plastic bags as the bums now just poop on the sidewalk like a DOG!! 💩💩
What about Styrofoam ? That lasts thousands and thousands of years
@@shirleyb2896we still have thin, biodegradable small plastic bags for dog poop. 🇭🇲
@@elisekellett2378 then why don’t the stores offer biodegradable plastic bags?
They need to stop blaming the consumer. Plastic was pushed on the population. How did we survive without plastic before WW2? We could solve this problem quickly via consumer packaging changes. They should just use paper bags. It is not as nice as plastic, but if that is all they offered at the store, consumers would keep on truckin. There is also plastic alternatives which look like plastic but are made from plant fibers that dissolve in water after a few hours. They can just stop using plastic in the supply chain and consumers will adapt. We don't even need to come up with new tech. We still package with glass, aluminum, paper, wood, etc. and have new tech around plant fibers and such.
Cant use paper bags, enviromentalists will think loggers will destroy the enviorment. (despite the fact loggers want to preserve the forests much better than most and often use selective harvesting and not clear cutting.)
In the eighties before cloth and plastic mesh shopping bags were popular, we used cardboard boxes.
Pittsburgh banned single use plastic too. All that did was make my family avoid shopping in the city. All money now goes to the suburbs.
I currently live in Texas, where we have no such bans. However, not long ago, a local fast-food outlet accidentally ordered some of those cardboard straws. They were the worst! Not only were they hard to use, they added a nasty 'toilet paper" taste to the drinks. The management had to apologize to the customers, with a promise that the mistake would be rectified ASAP. They have since returned to using standard plastic straws.
If I ever return to Cali, to visit relatives, I will bring my own pack of plastic straws, just in case I visit a food franchise. If anyone in Cali has any complaints, they can tell it to the middle finger!
WHY!!!!! would you EVER return to Californicate ANY WAY!!!! It may be pretty to look at, BUT SO IS A WHORE!!! compleat with the acompining garbage + cost of ALL kinds, Left there 40yrs ago and dont miss it a BIT!!!! 👹💩💩💩!!
You know I remember when I was a teenager that California wanted to save the trees so you had to pay 2 cents if you wanted a paper bag while plastic was free. So the clerks had to ask you "paper or plastic". And double bagging meant 4 cents. This was passed the same year that California voted for the lottery, which was to be used to make it so taxpayers would no longer have to pay school taxes because the lottery proceeds would be used for the schools and there would be so much money for the schools it'd take away the onus of gambling.
Well we still pay huge school taxes for classes that now teach our children how to sexually pleasure themselves and grownups while not teaching them the three R's. Also genderbread theory and how to engage in sex with your buddy of ten by putting illustrated books on oral sex in school libraries. Books you can't read aloud to a room full of adults in school board meetings!!!!
Well said
Exactly! It’s sickening!
Then use your vote wisely. These things you are complaining about are all on Bidens watch. PS I'm not from US.
CA decided to go from the thin one-time use bags to much thicker multi-use bags. But as far as I could ever find (I did some research some years back on this), no one ever pondered the idea that most shoppers are not going to re-use those thick plastic bags. So essentially, they went from thin plastic bags to thick ones with everyone scratching their heads why there's more plastic going in the waste.
All the garbage that ends up in the ocean should raise flags. How does it get there? Who is dumping in the ocean?
dems for sure.
I never throw away a bag I get at the grocery store. It's used either over and over for more groceries or used for trash. It goes into the landfill not the ocean.
Paper bags are ultimately recycled in my household. They go into my paper shredder. I take the shreds and stir them into the compost or into the garden soil. It adds more organics to replenish all the organics taken out of the soil in the form of vegetables, fruit, root vegetables, and tomatoes.
I ask the grocery store for 50/50 paper and plastic, depending on what I need to repurpose them for - trash or recycle. I wince in horror every time my own state legislature proposes a ban on plastic bags. Our lawmakers don't understand how we live.
stll ends up n the ocean. been there lately?
California is a dump at this point
But it’s a dump with a nice view.
Don't get me started on paper straws. That is one of the most idiotic things. The straw is flat after a couple sips. I use the plastic bags from Kroger to pick up trash around the neighborhood or use as bathroom trash can. I don't let them go to waste.
Wait till they research paper straws giving you something from the chems they used to make.
And because it's served with food, most people use those straws not knowing or considering there could be a hazard.
Ya I remember when Costco changed to those things. First time I got a drink there the straw made my soda taste nasty so I stopped using their straws all together. Whatever they use on those things can't be healthy.
@@merendellbring your own! You can buy metal, washable ones.
They contain pfas. Really good for the user and environment!
@@elisekellett2378 Nah, I've heard too many impaling stories. What I use are hard plastic washable straws. I guess you could still get impaled on them, but I figure they're more likely to shatter than metal straws.
It has become such a pain to be in CA. We are now such a nanny state. My $1.00 TJ reusable bags have degraded in the car heat after a number of years (probably 5-10 years). I had to buy a box of the older thinner plastic bags to use in my pooper scooper because of the ban. The thicker bags don’t work in the pooper scooper. Plastic straw ban is such a bunch of BS. I doubt the supermarket makes any money on the $0.10 thicker plastic bag that the CA state makes them charge as a nuisance “tax.”
My hallway closet is slam full of grocery bags. I use them as my small waste bags for my small trash cans throughout my apartment. I'm technically recycling them 🤷🏼♂️
Free bags, which I use for small trash cans, go into the garbage, which is picked up, goes to a landfill. So it doesn't end up in the ocean.
Let’s go back to paper bags.
Oh yes! The bag ban. I remember how we voted to get rid of the bags and overnight these more thicker bags replaced the regular bags.
I fold my re-usable plastic bags down to small squares. It's something to do with my hands while I am watching TH-cam videos like this one. Once folded I stack them up and put them neatly into a re-usable bag, which I keep in my car. When I go to the store I just take those neatly stacked bags with me and the cashier and bagger love that I have such a nice package. I also have a couple of those six-pack bags for wine bottles in there, they are handy too.
Apparently people who actually re-use the re-usable bags are relatively rare. But I don't throw mine away until they get torn or the package of chicken leaks in there.
Try Folding your bag into a triangle like an American flag. Lengthwise fold in half, and half again so you got a long strip, then fold triangles so it's A compact triangle and tuck loose end into fold flap.
You can crochet lots of items with plastic bags too.
I hate to break it to you, but recycling itself is a scam. Everything winds up getting transferred again and again until the last guy just dumps it somewhere.
I bought and have been using a canvas bag in the early 1990's when I lived in Texas. I live in Washington now, since 1996, and it used to be people cared about the environment. Not so much now. People have become dirty, lazy or just don't care anymore. I'm 64 and learned to reduce, reuse and recycle in the late 1960's early 1970's from grade school and Cub Scouts.
I used to reuse the thin plastic bags before the ban. The ban only put more money in the store's pockets because people don't care about paying 10 cents.
I save the plastic grocery bags because they're great trash bags. I'm a fulltime RVer and they work amazing well for that. I don't do the "bring your own bag" crap. I expect bags at the stores.
I have seen people order stacks of their own thin plastic bags from online.
I ALWAYS reuse my thick plastic bags from Walmart or the grocery store. They are very strong, I've even used them as makeshift sand bags. 🤷♂️🤓
Here in WA we have those same thicker bags (8 cents each), and I HATE them. The thinner ones are not “single use.” Lots of people reuse them for many things…pet waste, yard waste, trash bin liners, etc etc. The thicker ones are NOT good for this because they’re just too inflexible. When I go to neighboring states that don’t have this ridiculous bag mandate, I hoard the “real” bags when I go to the stores. 😡
Wait till it becomes too expensive to dispose of EV batteries, and salvage yards refuse to accept EVs, leading to abandoned Teslas all over California.
But, there will be a new tax in California, that everyone will have to pay, for the proper disposal of EV batteries.
Then in 30 years there will be a new tax to recover those batteries and dispose of them in a "BETTER" way.
Rinse, repeat.....
More people are getting their food delivered rather than going to the store, buying groceries and cooking. This adds much more disposable plastic waste. There's a plastic bag, clam shell package and disposable utensils for every meal!
I'm from California and what I do when I go to the market at least a couple of times a month as I pay extra for those thick plastic bags and then I use them for trash,,,🤣🤣🤣
exactly what i do. i reuse them for griceries until they are dirty enough to use for trash. Haven't bought 10$ pack of trash bags in 2 years.
I'm in CA too. I use cloth bags for groceries but people I know on SNAP/EBT have cabinets stuffed with those thick, reuseable bags.
Just go online and buy a box of t-shirt thank you bags. They’re super cheap. Use them however you want, then throw them in the garage bin.
Store clerks are always a little stunned when they try to sell me a bunch of their ‘approved’ plastic bags, for like a dime each, and I just say, “no thanks”, and pull out my own old school thank you bags.
Overreach is the key word.
Calif. replaced thin disposable bags that disintegrate quickly with new much thicker longer disposable plastic bags that cost 10 cents.
What could go wrong?
Don't forget we went to plastic to save the trees.
Weird. Where I live we have mostly canvas shopping bags and foldable crates we often keep in the car after shopping for easy availability.
You hardly see people buying store plastic bags here.
lmfao EVEN amazon includes the box xD great take
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Doesn’t a rocket science to figure out that the thick plastic was not gonna work.
Environmentalists claim that plastic bags end up in the ocean. I suggest that these organizations pay a few thousand staffers to surround California landfills 24/7/365 with observers so they can catch whoever is digging up the plastic bags out of the dirt, putting them on big trucks, and driving them to the beach to dump into the ocean.
😂
Bringing used bags into a clean environment where food is purchased is a bad idea. Fools leave bags in the garage. The trunk of their cars. Wherever and bring those dirty bags back into the store.
Umm this is the US doesn’t out trash end up in the ground?
Paper bags. I recall when everyone switched to plastic to save the trees.
My ex gf is an old bag. Does she count as recycled?! 😂
Not a surprise. Banned in Canada. So instead of getting several uses out of a bag before it becomes a litter holder, I need to buy reusable bags that last maybe ten times if lucky, I must buy bags for litter.
Gee. 🤔 What else could possibly go wrong in the State of California??? 😁🤣🤪😂😃👌
I try to keep my TWO insulated bags in my car....and then when I unpack I put them in my closet and forget them. I've NEVER asked for bags because if I'm sensitive to 20 CENTS for another soda, then HELL if I'm paying 10 CENTS PER BAG.
I just tell them back in the cart. I LOVE taking my time to load my car. It slows me down in my busy world.
Just make EVERYTHING cardboard and Aluminum. 95% of Aluminum EVER MINED is STILL in use today and Cardboard is nice to recycle.
Ya know, in some states they did the smart thing on this and switched to paper. At least the paper ones bio degrade, are non toxic, and renewable.
The manufacturer of paper creates lots of very unpleasant liquid waste
@@ArtStoneUS depends on the paper, there is a mill not far from where I live, and while it does not exactly smell good from what I understand MES (local environmental) it’s non toxic. Even if it is though, I can’t imagine its equal or worse to plastic in terms of the total toxicity across the board.
you have to use 3 of the paper straws because they rot out.. hate them
California is the leader in confusion.
They vote for overreach
Everything you buy is in plastic.
In Ontario, Canada, they've done the same thing. Now, these reusable bags are tossed instead. They're made with way more material. It's ludicrous.
I'm not surprised because California doesn't have a clue.
Here in Sweden we had a plastic carry bag penalty tax. It was meant in order to decrease the use of plastic and plastic waste.
The result was an increase in the use of plastic bags as people didn't use their old carry bag as a garbage bag, and instead bought dedicated plastic trashbags that was only used for trash.
What is even more funny is that the tax was deemed a success. It did remove a certain type of plastic, even if the overall plastic was increased.
I'm big on waste reduction, and I like the concept of going to something more sustainable BUT the moment i heard about an actual ban rather than trying to promote benefits I knew this was going to get nasty. You can't just change behaviors with a ban like that, and I only resent the bags after 3 decades of watching the environment decay and I don't know how to compell that to others in a meaningful way so you'd never see me force it on others either
I guess I'm lucky that I don't have a homeless problem here at this time so I guess I'm "allowed" to worry about this and be a hippie about it.
Lets go with the Costco method of no bags. You buy a trunk organizer pretty quickly after the first few visits.
Yes. In the eighties there was a store called Spag's with the tagline "Spag's has no bags." So we used cardboard boxes.
How about making laws against crime?
but they are all criminals.
It's 25 cents per bag in the bay area not a dime per bag.
Even more reason to go online and buy your own t-shirt thank you bags. They’re super cheap.
The new bags do NOT fall apart unlike the old bags. No one uses them twice. I use fabric bags. Use paper or fabric if you want to “Go green”!
Also you want to fix homeless? Deport illegals and house Americans