UD 44 Jeep Axle Swap Do It Yourself Installation - Garage to Dirt!
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This is the most comprehensive Do It Yourself How to Jeep Wrangler JK front Spicer Ultimate Dana 44 axle installation video on the entire internet!
So buckle up for a longer video but that's because it has lots of data.
I'll cover the basics on why I chose the Ultimate Dana44 for the front of the AutoEdits Jeep.
spicerparts.com/parts/axle/au...
Then I'll go through some of the other components like the Reid Racing knuckles... reidracing.biz/jk001
Plus, there's a pretty good side by side comparison for those who think the stock Rubicon Dana 44 axle and the Ultimate 44 are exactly the same... because there are some very important differences exactly where I need them!
After that, it's install time and I'll take a few minutes to explain how to measure and get your axle and suspension setup dialed.
I even show the hard parts of doing a big upgrade to your rig and how to push through... removing broken bolts... dealing with the dreaded death wobble after getting a professional alignment and doing an eyeball alignment in the garage and taking it for a drive.
Here is a good resource for torque specs... there are plenty of other spots but this is a good start: www.extremeterrain.com/jeep-w...
Thanks so much for watching!
Please hit subscribe and give me a follow over on the instagram / autoedits_jason
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I loved this video. Totally makes sense why you went with the axle you did...Sometimes we jeepers rush to install the biggest, beefiest parts we can find without considering what the other implications are - I hope people watch this and realize that a one ton axle isn’t always the appropriate option! 😀🤙🏻
You are the best! I absolutely love that our Jeeps were very similar for a moment in time and have taken different "trails" over the last few years! What you've accomplished as a driver/mechanic/storyteller is beyond amazing... keep it up Hollie!
Thank you Jason!!! Your videos are the best out there - very practical upgrades and you include the struggles to make them real!!! Love the blue differential cover!!
Glad you got that!!! I appreciate hearing this from you!
Jason, your videos are the best on TH-cam. You never disappoint. Thank you for the quality you put into your work.
Wow, thank you!
I'm speechless. I cannot believe you aligned that with your eye!
HA! I've been lucky with that several times over the years. I even did an eye-alignment on the Mustang for the first several test drives.
Probably already mentioned, you can also use the string method for ballpark alignment- I always used it with my quads. Wrap a sting around the jeep at the tires center point. If the alignment is off you will have a gap between tire and string, adjust until the stringi is flat against all four tires it should be good to drive it to alignment professional.
Love this, thanks!
Was a lot of fun to go along for that first ride. Awesome! Amazing video. Thank you.
Thanks for coming along!
Your the best! Great video I was hooked completely to the end can't wait for next video!
You're the best!
I had the death wobble happen to me when I was 17 I was driving back home with my mom and brother going 75 and still to this day I get goosebumps when I think about it
Amazing freaking video. This is the reason why I’ve been following you and watching every single one of your videos: you take the time to stop, educate and EXPLAIN how and why things work, and just make it simple to understand. Truth be told, I don’t have or go out and buy any of this stuff for my stock Jeep but I learn so much on the way things work from you. Please keep up the teaching and amazing video tutorials!!
I really appreciate hearing this... helps me a lot as well... so thank you!
You have no idea how hyped I get to see a new jeep video.
Thanks so much!
I enjoy your videos and content, thank you for making them Jeep'n Jason. It's inspiring to watch for my own project, and helps me learn/understand various aspects I haven't previously considered.
Awesome, thank you!
Jason you make every upgrade an adventure. Every time I get done watching your videos it makes me want to either get out and work on my stuff or go for a drive. Great stuff! Can wait to see what your upgrading next!
Love hearing this! Thanks!!!
For real
Jason absolutely love your videos. Having owned six jeeps myself and finally about two months ago got myself into 2012 JK Rubicon Unlimited I am pumped !! Again your personality on the videos is awesome and keep it going. And by the way there are plenty of us out there that are just as meticulous as you LOL. Love it brother 🤘🏻🤙🏼👍🏼
That is awesome! And glad to hear from another like me...LOL!
I got a say that there is allot of work that you put in just making the video, perfect audio, multiple camera views and even aerial shots. I a impressed , subscribed immediately
Thanks so much! Howdy and welcome!
Another dandy of a video Jason. Thanks for keeping the mishaps in the video too. I enjoy watching people problem solving. 👍🤘
Thanks 👍
Awesome video brother and thank you for sharing your Jeep journey. Been watching for years man and your content is some of the best on YT in my opinion. Cheers, Jason!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks for my Pinto fix! As always, great content, great upgrades, and appreciate the gratuitous Large Marge and DED Ram truck shots!
HA! Thanks for this... I'm a lucky dude to have that junk in the driveway!
Wow , that was a long video( and well worth the time ) , started watching it last night and battery had other plans , finished it this morning . It was nice to actually see alot of the ( little odds & ends ) things that alot of others skip . Great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video Jason. Thanks for taking us along.
Glad you enjoyed it
I love your videos. I learn so much! The way you took everything that was thrown at you and still made it happen is inspiring. I wanna be like you someday 😅👌🏼
Oh shucks! All you have to do is start with something small and keep trying and learning!
Just got my jk rubicon a few months ago glad you popped up on my TH-cam algorithm! Look forward to my upgrades
Howdy! Welcome aboard!
First-time commentor. I was happy to see your video on the same axle had installed after an accident damaged my Dana 30 (blessing in disguise). Unfortunately, the shop initially installed my track bar in the wrong hole causing death wobble. I was just super happy I was able to triage the issue and fix it. I too run the metalcloak springs, control arms, tie rod and drag link. LOVE IT. Keepem videos coming.
Thank you and welcome to the comment section!!!!!
love these videos Jason! been here for years and won’t be leaving anytime soon! great work!! keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you!
Please keep upgrading your keep! As my paychecks keep coming in I’ll revert back to your videos! Thank you for being awesome.
Thank you!!!
Long time viewer, first time poster. Love the content! Just bought a 2017 JK 2 door and I plan to follow some of the guides in your videos!
Howdy and welcome to the comment section! Glad to hear from someone that these videos give a few tips to. My goal is to present the stuff that makes sense to me and let you decide what might work best for you. I learn a lot along the way and things that work for a bit might not fit later.
Awesome video! Hands down! Simply great and easy to watch. Love all of the little "tips" you throw in.
Awesome, thank you!
Finally got my Ultimate 44, can’t wait to get it in. This ole Dana 30 is worn out! Great video!
YES I have been waiting for a video like this from you! I haven’t watched it yet but I’m sure it’s good!
Hope you like it!
Thanks for making this Video man tons of good info just waiting for the weather to play nice here in New York so i can get my ud44 installed keep up the good work
You bet... I like doing them! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
I love the music you looped into this one. Gives me a nostalgic Dragon Ball Z vibe. Always professional and honest videos. I watch every one of them all the way through no matter what.
Thanks so much... really appreciate the support and feedback!
Awesome video. A few friends helped swap out my Dana 30/35 on my 2020 Sport S, for Dana 44 (M210/M220) that came off a new (
Cool to hear this story!
That sick feeling when a bolt breaks off in a housing. Great video!!
You got that right!
my old 2011 sahara tan sport is rocking a UD 44 with 5:13 and e locker because of this video. thank you 🙏
Sounds like you are happy and I'm happy to hear that!
Been here since the beginning, I feel like my jeep is getting a new axle lol. Love the videos!
Thanks 👍 It feels a little rough to make them this long... are you good with this format? and did I say thanks... Thank you!
I've always loved the DIY stuff, that's why I subbed. I also generally prefer longer videos if it remains interesting/informative all the way through, which this was! I see a general tactic used by youtubers is to cut it into parts, then you can increase your ad revenue a bit as well. I'd be fine with this being 2 parts if you were thinking about it*
@@AutoEdits I, too, really appreciate your DIY stuff. You blow through the meaningless wrench turns & explain some of the more tedious things that most folks don’t think to talk about.
I agree...lol!!! @AutoEdits I love the long format!
@@AutoEdits the long videos are awesome
Having the Jack White playing while installing gets you another 10 HP and 15 Ft. Lbs. out of the new setup! Love the video, and nice job!
Ha! Thanks dude!
I just subscribed, great video dude! I finally picked up a cj7 last year and man did you hit a great point when you said put a smile on and keep wrenching! Broken bolts and death ☠️ wobble are no fun, thanks again
Howdy and welcome! I love them CJ7's have fun with that!
As always, amazing video and very informative.
Dude that’s awesome!!! I can’t believe how clean you stayed during that swap...I need t wear full ppe and I’m still covered in dirt 😂🤣😂🤣😂
HAHA!
Awsome.video thanks for the tricks and tips on this upgrade... really loved the drone footage that was awsome.. keep the videos comin and stay safe out there..
Thanks! Will do!
Being that my next Big upgrade is the front axle, I was looking to Dana. Brah this vid really helped 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Glad to hear it!
Great video very helpfull, been there when crap goes wrong like it did in your video i like how you kept your cool. I would have lost my mind. Appreciated you actually providing the torques as well. Thanks for the video.
Thanks 👍
Love your channel, content and your demeanor my man....Thanks so much!!!👊👍🇺🇸
Thank you so much!!!
Death wobble is no joke. I still get nervous for no reason sometimes.
So true! Same here because that crap is scary!
I thought I was overthinking it and freaking out for no reason. Glad I’m not alone
I had my first bout with death wobble the other day, I thought my entire front suspension fell apart on me. Scary as hell! It's a 94 XJ, not a daily driver but I take it on the streets a bunch.. I put a beefier tie rod on so I got an alignment, I had been driving it on the hwy a lot with no problems, then I hit a pot hole at around 40mph that caused the DW. I've had the Jeep for two years, thought I was in the clear, guess not lol
I've had plenty of experience with DW. It's like driving on square wheels. Always scary as hell the first time you experience it, but what's funny is the looks on the passengers' faces the first time they experience it LOL!
Yes sir, happened to me, not long ago, I have a 2002 jeep grand Cherokee limited sport, scared the hell outta me
As usual an awesome vid! Glad you didn’t need to replace the woodys shafts I have the 1350s front and rear. I have to regear so doing both axles think I’m doing the pair set 44 front 60 rear but def want those knuckles!
Thanks dude! I did have to swap the pinion flange from my stock axle but... yeah woody's is the way for me as well. What 60 are you going with? Spicer doesn't make a semi float 60 rear (yet) and it is important to me to keep my wheels and brakes. That's just too much money to do axles and then get brakes and new fancy wheels.
Awesome video as usual Jason!!! Didn’t even feel like a 38 minute video!!!
Awesome! Thank you! I get really nervous when they get this long and I cut a bunch of stuff out...LOL I appreciate hearing this.
Agreed 👍🏼
Oh crap, It was a 38 min vid? Damn, didn't notice it until I saw your comment..
Great video man. Love your channel.
I appreciate that!
I like it , by keeping it honest and real about all of it
Thank you a bunch!
moar beef! Another amazing upgrade and informative video. Cool to see the elocker in action too! Thanks Jason
Also the extra camera work didn't go unnoticed 👌👌
HAHA! Thanks dude!
Thank you thank you thank you! These axles don't get enough love! I simply can't justify the purchase of the other 'boutique' brand axles.
I totally agree!
Even if you go with the ultimate dana 60 you get so much more for $$$ compared to the others.
Would you be able to highlight the differences between this axle and the “beefed up” 44 that the JK Recon edition has?
Finally installing mine as I write this comment! So excited to get that old Dana 30 out!
Hope the install goes great!
Hey hey ! Nice he's back :) Good to see the beast
Hey, thanks!
I put a Tera44 under my Jeep a couple months ago. I anxiously took it for a drive after the install and got death wobble at 40 mph. Immediate disappointment! I'm nowhere near a professional, and after troubleshooting to no avail I took it to a local 4x4 shop to get the alignment dialed in. Glad to have put it in myself though. Feels great to have the peace of mind of a stronger axle.
It really does feel different "knowing" what you have up there! Thanks so much for sharing your experience as well!
Oh my word I can’t believe you just posted this! Thanks for the video!!! I’ve been debating the Ultimate 44 vs Dynatrac and Currie. My front Rubicon 44 is bent and has some serious issues. I’m ordering a new housing tomorrow!!!
Buy the J8 HD axle and transfer all the parts over. Axle is only 1000 dollars.
@@kruelzombieful It is identical to the Ultimate 44 isn’t it?
Nope
Man ill tell ya hearing you talk about putting your smile on and head back down really helped. I have a CJ7 with a 44front and 70 rear on 40s and I've been going through every nut ans bolt. Problem after problem and its getting tough.
Thanks so much for sharing this! Sometimes it's these little comments of people going through the same thing that helps ME the most as well! I wish you the best on your project!
Wow a eye ball element. That's impressive. My way is with a string. The string goes around all the tires, the back tires are the straight point, I adjust the element in the front till the tires in the front are evenly touching the string. Good enough for a dirt rig and good enough for a on off road rig to drive safely to get a real alignment done.
Ha, I'm getting this and a crate Dana44 rear for my 2018 JLU Sport. I put 37's on and decided the little'ol Dana 30/35 stock axles weren't going to cut it. also going with 4:88's and a 4 inch Rubicon Express lift. E-lockers front and back, and to finish off, Yukon drive shafts. well, its not finished, but thats to start anyway.
Great vid, thanks for sharing.
Sounds like a great build up!
Just bought this axle can't wait to get it put in
Congrats... I still love having mine!!!
Awesome video! I’m happy for you and the easy death wobble fix😅
Don't wish it on you, but it is nice to see experienced hands have stuff go wrong. Awesome video!
Thanks for watching!
Great video, nice to see all the differences between a JK44 and an Ultimate 44... I hope they comped you for that alignment.
Thanks! I didn't bother dealing with them ... needing to go back after this weekend and new suspension anyway.
Good description and comparison Jason.
As for the high pinion front Dana 44, its more than merely to keep front driveline angles more shallow, more importantly it places the pinion on the driven side of the ring gear which makes for a stronger assembly.
I also couldn’t justify the added weight of going with one-ton axles for my driving style in my 6.2 liter LS powered 2011 JKUR.
Mike
Good point!
Very good Video. Thank you for all the instruction and informations.
You are welcome!
Nice upgrade Jason! I just did the same axle swap on my wife's Jeep after her front axle was bent in an accident. I was in the same boat, there are beefier upgrades, but it didn't fit her style of wheeling. The UD44 was a good fit. Solid axle for sure!
So...you must have kept the 4.10 gearing? Obviously if you were in 4x4 out on the trail. I'm curious why you didn't bump to 4.88s or 5.13s since it sounds like you are doing the rear axle as well?
I'm swapped to 4.88 years ago and just ordered this axle with the same to match the rear for now. I don't think I'm going larger than 38" tires but you never know.
@@AutoEdits LOL OK, that makes sense. Keep up the great content! But maybe a month earlier so we are matched. 🤣👍
LOL
Awesome content brother!
Appreciate it!
The fucking outro was legendary lmao!!! subscribed for sure, the electric guitar, spinning pull away drone shot, and just keeping the video going - awesome. Great points and walkthrough
HA! thanks!
@@AutoEdits just took my axle out, replaced my LCA brackets and installed all by myself. Video helped tremendously man, thank you again 🙏🏽
Jason, you need to start a merch line! I’d buy a “Pinto the shop dog” shirt or a “While you’re here, let’s clean it” mug!
Such a great idea!!!
I would like it. I'm running a dana 30 on my 15 jeep jku with 35's, no lockers, but has been sleeved and gusseted. THX Anthony!!!!!!!
Excellent video Jason! You take your time to explain and video everything. The video aspect is above average! Keep up the good work! How is Pinto?
Awesome! Thank you! Pinto is getting older now 11... and doesn't like to hang out front on the rope as much anymore... but otherwise she is great!
YEEESSSS!!!! He's back!!!
Howdy!
Nice upgrade, I have the sport jk and want Dana 44 locker kit for front and rear, but I need to fix alot of thing. However I did get the power stop z36 from your channel. Love them. Worth the 380 bucks.
AWESOME!!! Thanks so much for the support!
What a video man!!!! Knocked that one out of the park!! Love the look on your face after the garage door opened.... I’ve had that look 😂🤦♂️😐
Right!
Swapped in the UD44 in my JK X this spring. 1,000% agree best bang for the buck. It really is as easy you show it to be. Cut the bracket off for the steering stabilizer and use the TF bolt that doubles as the track bar bolt and you can use a stock style steering stabilizer 🙂 I've also had as good luck with the DIY alignment as the 'pro' shop... Pretty sure the diff cover bolt is 30in-lb...
This makes sense!
The fact you said you were going to play Red Dead wins the internet, jeep fan and a gamer is always great.
Heck yeah!!! Glad you got that reference... I'm a gamer for life.... Thanks for saying hey!
@@AutoEdits The funny thing is literally right after I made this comment one of my guys in the gaming community I help run said well it's time for Red Dead I laughed and that was before I told them about the video I was watching. I have a 88 YJ and been gaming for 35+ years
my used tj came with the most severe death wobble at 45-55 mph. I loved it, I loved my jeep no matter what, and I eventually found a way to et rid of it entirely but Man it was a dead straight death wobble, never scared me just thought of it as a normal thing.
Im a new fan, seems so hard to do but you make it look easy!!!
Howdy and thanks!
nice upgrade
Dibs on the old D44..good upgrade to my front D30.
@32:22 those seat covers! Sorry if I missed the video on them! They are crispy! I have cloth seats and a malamute and mine are always dirty, I need these. Thanks for all the great information!
They do great with Pinto the Dog hair th-cam.com/video/WHOHvf9HxQM/w-d-xo.html
Thank you and good job mr edit !
Thank you!
Hi Jason this is a great video I have enjoyed watching and learning.
I have a rubicon like you and I'm wondering about how you did the wiring for the locker 🤔 I have the kit i will be getting to it soon would love some advice about how you did it.
I've always used the two men and a tape measure method for front end alignment. My LJ likes 0° of toe.
It would be nice if dana made one of these for my LJ.
Currie and dynatrac are my only real choices
Man I wish you were my neighbor. I haven't got half the guts to wrench on my Jeep the way you do.
Get out there and try something... anything... it's a start!
I love the fact that you have stayed with the JK and have not jumped to the JL to keep up with the You Tube trend. You sir, are an authentic Jeeper.
Howdy and thanks! It was fairly simple... got this Jeep paid off and can apply a little of that to more focused upgrades. I can go anywhere my friends with JL's can go and to be honest... with less electrical gremlins than they deal with. Not saying I'll never go "newer" but I'm a huge fan of making what you have better and enjoying it.
Subbed. Awesome video.
Awesome, thank you!
Great video.
Thanks!
Good information and good video!
Thanks!
Do I own a Rubicon? Yes
Will I be replacing my front axle? No
Did I watch the video in it's entirety? Heck yes 😁
Thanks!
I've always jacked mine up from under the pumpkin and just gone higher until I could get the jackstands under it
Very very smart to keep your thumbs on the steering wheel and not wrapped around it.
Good spot! Yes... training from years of driving crappy cars on rough roads.
I’m leaning toward the Pro Rock 44 pro with the pumpkin pointing up higher toward the transfer case. Gives better steering feel when lifted over 4”. Not to mention that the PR44 has a 1/2” thick tubing vs Ultimate Dana’s 1/4”.
I have really happy with my UD44. Have beat on it all over the country, including Moab, and it’s done fantastic. Curious to see what steering stabilizer you use. Only one I could find with the pin style end was a Rancho 5000 series. It’s worked great, but it will tighten the steering back up a bit.
Great to hear!
Sponsors get Autoedit Jason a car lift for his garage 👍 ,i think it could fit if u modifiy the garage door , great video
That would be cool!
I ordered a MaxJax four weeks ago and I just was informed that the shipment is here in my city so they will probably deliver it this coming week.
I think he needs to build a shop out back.
Had the same wobble after rebuilding the steering, forced me to go in for an alignment lol! Was pretty scary, only took a little bump and would not stop until I came to about a complete stop. Had a neighbor say “you get all this work done, then it’s time for A new jeep “. I said no, I would replace the engine or transmission or rebuild one or both.
We went with a Tera44 on our 2016 JK Sahara. Feel more secure when hitting the trails.
That's what it's all about... peace of mind when it matters! The Teraflex stuff looks really good.
Great video👍👍👍😉peter from Belgium,...
🖐 Howdy from California!
Cool man, I have only seen the blue diff cover on Australian Dana’s.
I have them on my 44's. Bought t hem from 4Wheel parts after seeing them at Jeep Beach at the Spicer booth
I liked it a bunch!
Death Wobble Alignment help and DW fix. 4 Years ago I bought a stock 2013 CG JK 2D and installed an AEV 3.5 Dualsport RS SC lift with 18" Fuel Rims and BFG Ko2 35x12.50 r18 tires and it ran great until it didn't. Early last year the dreaded Death Wobble. By this time it had 85K on it so I figured something was worn and it was. The track bar bushings were shot and the ball joints were heavily worn. So I replaced them and then I started chasing the dreaded intermittent DW problems.
Number One: Never trust alignment shops. They go by the book and if your Jeep is not stock anymore the book does not work. During the process of elimination I ended up installing the full SteerSmarts setup which greatly improved my steering tightness to better than stock but still intermittent DW and to make the story short I ended up replacing just about everything connected to my front end including new bearing hubs, u-joints and control arms and still the DW at random. At least they were things I wanted to do anyways :)
Then I started noticing a slight cupping on the outer edge of my tires. But the shop says dead on! So I found this article and repeated it exactly. and guess what. my Death Wobble went away.
wranglertjforum.com/threads/how-to-align-your-jeep-wrangler-tj.85/
You got lucky with your eye alignment but I played with mine adjusting and driving: repeat. first off. The alignment shops alignment was almost a 1/2 inch off according to my new sticks and tapes and the stick length is crucial. If you have 37" tires then you need 37" sticks perfectly centered on the hub for measuring. If you look at the diameter of a circle. The bigger the circle, the different the measurement is going to be with two adjacent circles measuring the length of the radius endpoint difference between them. (I hope that made since) I ended up going with 3/16 tow in in the end on mine. Yours may vary. Different tires track different ways and may offset your needed tow. Trial and Error is the only way to fix this. Another thing I found is tire pressure. Running my K02's at 30psi instead of the tireshop 36psi also greatly improved ride and steering. I off road but in the city I drive fast. 80 on the HW fast in the corners and with all these upgrades it now handles better than stock now.
Another thing to look at is pinion angle and scrub radius. If you are using wheel spacers or after market rims without the correct offset. you have increased your scrub radius. From Pirate 4x4 below.
The ROOT cause of death wobble is high scrub radius. Scrub is caused by improper backspacing of the wheels. Changing your caster, camber, toe, ball joints, rod ends, tire balance, etc. will cover it up and change the harmonics to a different speed. The proper way to eliminate death wobble is to correct your scrub.
If you draw an imaginary line through both of your ball joints (looking from the front), the line should come about 1 inch below the center of the tire. The distance between the center of the tire and this line is your scrub. Anything over 1 inch can cause death wobble.
There is a good video here on YT. 6 min long with pretty pictures.
th-cam.com/video/SUDMEd1bMZI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=EngineeringExplained
Your Castor angle is also important. If your Jeep has too little caster angle, it can be a candidate for developing death wobble. you can adjust this with your Lower Control Arms and it should be about 6 degrees (best) on the Jeep. Having less or ZERO castor will also cause DW
Hope this helps
Dana 44 front is totally fine for a jk on 37s as long as you sleeve the tubes and c gusset reinforce. The rear 44 keeps bending the axle flanges causing annoying issues. So a full float rear is preferred.
Love the videos! I’m partial to the wrangler ones ha. I forget, what gears did you decide to run?
Thanks! I swapped in 4.88's right away after the first tire upgrade and it's doing well. So I ordered this axle with 4.88 for now to match the rear.
Great 👍 work done
Thank you! Cheers!