Kamado Joe | Pizza 101
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- Welcome to the all-inclusive Kamado Joe tutorial on cooking pizza on your Joe! This video walks you through some best practices for making perfect pizza. Follow these guidelines and never burn another pizza! Here's the recipe I used for the basic homemade dough in this video:
500 grams bread flour (3 3/4 cups + 1 Tablespoon)
14 grams of kosher salt (2 1/8 tsp)
1 gram of active dry yeast (1/2 tsp)
350 grams of 100-105°F water (1 1/2 cups) **
** Change the water amount to 300 grams (1 1/4 cup) for extremely high temperature pizza
Baker’s Percentages:
Flour: 100%
Water: 70% **
Salt: 2.8%
Yeast: 0.5%
** 60% for high temperature pizza
Combine the flour, salt, and yeast in the bowl of your mixer. Attach the dough hook and add the water. Mix with the dough hook
just until all the ingredients come together and there is no dry flour left. Remove the bowl from the mixer, cover and let rest for 30
minutes. Put it back on the mixer with the dough hook and knead on low speed for 2 minutes. Remove the dough to a lightly
oiled bowl and cover with plastic wrap. Let rise for 2 hours. Remove to floured surface. Divide into two or three equal pieces. Shape into dough balls and place on a floured baking pan. Lightly dust the tops with flour and cover with plastic wrap. Let rise for
another 90 minutes to two hours. Shape into a pizza crust, top, and bake at 500-550 degrees until done!
For improved dough flavor, after the first rise, place the dough covered on pans in the refrigerator for at least 12 hours and up to 72 hours. Remove from the refrigerator and let come to room temperature for 2-3 hours before shaping into pizza crusts.
Enjoy!
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Watching this at 1.25x, just perfect.
😂 its the southern way buddy
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Spot on.
Instead of using so much flour on the bottom you should try cornmeal dusting the bottom it doesn’t stick and you won’t have that burnt flour
At 800ﾟ you're supposed to cook the pizza for only 60 seconds not 120 seconds
The napolitanan is burned that's way beyond leoparding.
16:44 - You are doing awesome here. But I want to say, the only reason they turn the pizza in a wood fired 900+ degree oven is because the wood source is pushed to one side. With the Kamodo, you have even super hot heat all around it, so absolutely no need to turn the pizza - other than it feels authentic and frankly it's fun. Great work here!
Atleast on my kamado back of the grill gets a bit hotter so i have to turn my pizza.
False, kamado gets hotter on one side because the bottom vent is on one side only
I've been using the air gap set up for the last 4 pizza cooks and the result has been brilliant - no burnt crusts. Really nice results cooking on 500 - 550F, 10 minutes each pizza, turning it around every 3 minutes. The dough is home-made by my wife (Berni) to a recipe given to her by a friend and has a lovely thin crust.
Can you elaborate on air gap?
@@Yoris670 at 3:00 in this very video.
Wenn der Boden verbrannt ist, ist die Pizza eben nicht perfekt!
Made your dough recipe last night, it was so easy to make and delicious, so easy to work with. Thanks so much for sharing it. Cooked my (3)at 500 degrees for 8-10 minutes . Best dough ever. Thanks!!!
Thanks for this very interesting video.
The crust @ the highest temp seems fantastic and really as the pizza we have eaten in Napoli...
But it looks like fresh onion rings are not cooked in 4 minutes... (actually there is no onion rings in the Margherita pizza 😀)
Thanks for this John. Regarding the yeast, you use 1g for 500g of flour, while it is recommended to use 7g (as per package instructions). Is there a reason why would you not follow the manufacturer’s guidance? Thanks!
This is my favorite video on TH-cam for kamado-style smokers and making pizza. I watched two dozen. Thank you sir!
In particular for the last Neopolitan pizza you should use semolina flour for the roll out, and remove all excess flour before putting filling on top. That will significantly reduce the black on the underside.
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I agree, and use 000 flour instead of all purpose or bread flour for making the dough.
Love this guy. He is so thorough and specific.
Since this video is 5 years old, if you have the X-Accessory rack, you can put that on the bottom position, put your heat deflectors on that, and then the grates with the pizza stone on top of that to keep an air gap and not have to go buy some cast iron plugs like he used in the video.
Do you think you’d need the iron spacer set up using a steel pizza “stone?” Love your videos!
Thermal conductivity of steel is 20x that of stone. Makes for nice leopard spotting on the bottom. Lose the stone and make better pies.
@@medilink12 absolutely! -- I'm wondering if that air gap is necessary. I'll try it tomorrow night with the gap.
22:00 great explanation about hydration level and cooking time, always wondered about the trade offs of a lower vs higher hydration dough. Btw making dough is easy and rewarding. I mix it on day one, then use it the next day or a couple days later. Waiting gives it character. Look up no knead pizza dough 👍
Thank you for the information. You really cleared up the temperature and dough differences for me.
Hey!
I was looking into doing this and I think that the spacer is a great idea but I am fairly certain that black iron is toxic when heated to high temps. Stay safe everyone and enjoy your pizza!
Brilliant video. At last somebody outlining the differences between pizzas. Personally I’m a fan of the Napoli style and it was very interesting to learn about the water content. Also that sugar maybe in store bought dough And how this will affect cooking. Something I will definitely look out for if not making myself. Would of liked to seen the Napoli in style pizza slightly thinner especially around the edge. But nevertheless I would’ve scoffed that right down regardless, and enjoyed every slice. Great work looking forward to more like this and the day I get my Kamado Joe 🤘🏽🦞
Any experienmenting with 24-48 rise time with your homemade dough? I find that gives the perfect fermented, almost sweetness to the dough, not to mention getting rid of that "raw" taste that comes along sometimes with homemade doughs.
Thanks for another great video. Going to make Pizzas today on my classic, hope they come out as good as yours'
Follow guidelines to never burn pizza: 17:45 - goes quiet after seeing almost fully burned bottom... Uhmm, it is perfect!
Dude is a pizza temp-control genius! ... Thanks for sharing this tip.
Thank you for this informative presentation. I have been thinking about buying an Ooni or Roccbox, and then when finances allow getting the Kamado Joe. I’m going straight for the Joe now 😁
The investment is worth it, we promise!
Great video. The high temp pizza looked a little to done for me but overall it all looked good.
Agreed, he burnt that to shit.
I thought it looked perfect.
Looked perfect to me
Thanks for the advise. My pizzas were constantly having burn crust with toppings not done. Making a small adjustment (the air gap) has made such a difference that it is amazing. Crust is now as good as a pizzeria ( I use 00 flour at 59% hydration)
Awesome. I've been making home made pizza for at least 5 years and I am still learning things; this video is a prime example. I've had mitigated success (no failures, mind you) cooking on the Joe, mainly due to loss of temperature after a few pies. This video will help in my technique. Thanks a bunch for putting this together.
Jean-Marc Vandemeulebroecke were you able to associate your heat loss to anything on the joe? At the higher temps, I feel like my temps spike high if I don’t watch it. Never loose the temp. Sometimes I can’t control how high it gets.
Try semolina to stretch on and for the peel. Makes a much better crust than all-purpose flour
No it doesn’t! This is an American thing. No where else that I’ve traveled do the cooks use semolina. It’s burns and creates a bad taste.
This guys knows his shit! He knows how to make pizza!
Use 00 and check this out. www.stadlermade.com/pizza-dough-calculator/
Flour will burn, semolina you can use less and get more slide. Use less yeast, quarter teaspoon, and longer, cold overnight fermentations in the fridge.
You really went into pizza grilling with 4 types of pizza and the varied water content. I'm going to try it out!
How many pizza bases does the recipe you put up make?
no more than 90 secs!!
John,
I’m going to pick up some of these pipe plugs for myself. Before I do, is there any concern of the black paint causing fumes when exposed to the high heat? Would galvanized plugs be better?
Thanks.
I'm sorry but none of those pizzas look particularly enticing. And the "scratch dough" video clip oddly shows the temperature of the dome dropping 100 degrees at the time it is being taken out 10 minutes later, which just seems to show that the video was not shot at the same time as the pizza was baked. The Neapolitan pie was burned. It was not a leopard crust at all.
You said that you used a metal peel for removing the pizza and a wood peel to put the pizza in the Kamado. You stated that you would tell us why and forgot I guess?
Greg Langhoff my question too!
Alex Aragon thanks!
it can get sticky, especially if the liquid boils over the crust. you need a firm/slim edge to get under the goo and breaker it from the stone with gouging the dough. ive never burnt the peel but i have smooshed a pizza
Who is John Setzer and what's his association with Kamado Joe? Don't think I've ever seen a real bio on him anywhere. In one video they referred to him as "Chef". Is he a Chef? How does he make his money? These are burning questions......
Marc DeLuca I don't know where it started for him, but it started for me with Man Cave Meals. Give it a look
Ty Oglesby I remember those! "Just a small town guy who loves to cook". The incredible shrinking man- John Setzler.
16:53 Note, how thick is coal chunks for the high temperature cooking. If you buy cheap coal with small chunks you may not go above 500 F due to restricted air flow.
The level of technical knowledge here is amazing.
Do you have a favorite store bought sauce or recipe you really like?
Also, just for your own research give Trader Joe's and Walmart dough a try. I know you were looking for widely available doughs. I personally don't care for the Publix dough due to the same issues you found plus I find it lacks flavor. Oddly enough, the Walmart dough for 98 cents is the best store bought dough I've found.
I’d like to see a easy sauce recipe! If there is such a thing
I use fire brick all the time to help me cook indirect and as a spacers to do level changes on any grill or kamado.
This is the best Kamado pizza video I've seen. It also helped me decide not to purchase the overpriced DoJoe.
Thanks a ton! Adjusted my technique and added the 1.25 inch black pipe plugs.....pizza turned out perfect!
In the last pizza, looks like the lumps are huge! is that actual large wood chunks or just large charcoal pieces?
Very informative. Thanks for making the video. I am still going to try a take and bake at high temp to see what it does though.
Great video. I appreciate the detail and the explanations of why you do certain things!
Wow i ve hungry....what did used for cook the pizzas? i mean you used wood or charcoal? thank you
Bro make your own dough using milk not water and olive oil .. my mothers Italian trust me..
What about the pre-maid crusts that are already baked, like a Boboli or some other brand like that? Keep it simple and follow their instructions?
The high temp pizza was burnt. If you like a burnt taste, go for it. Your better off in the 500-600 range depending upon your particular brand of Komodo cooker.
Appreciate all your work to spread the Gospel of the great Kamado Joe. I've had my Kamado for close to 10 years and have enjoyed fish, fowl, pork, beef and pizza. For the money, I don't know how you can get a better Kamado. I would have liked to see how your crust looked on the slices. Was the dough cooked through, still wet or dry in the middle of the dough.
One of my favorite dishes on the Kamado Joe is called, "Chicken under a Brick". First, your marinate a whole chicken that you split on the breast side and spread out. Then you grill it without burning it because you leave all the skin on. You put a tin foil covered brick on top of the chicken to keep it flattened out and it's out of this world. Keep up the good work.
When i spatchcock chicken like that I grill skin side down first then flip. Is that when you put the brick on?
perfect? burned bottom, in Italy you would have to wash dishes for a long time...
I think you should heat the grill at 600 degrees, because at pizza oven is that warm.
Beautiful video! I really enjoyed and appreciated them how you organized the content of topics you wanted to discuss. Well done!!!
Thank you for the information. You really cleared up the temperature and dough differences for me.
Made the Pizza last night with the same black iron fittings. Absolutely perfect.
John, did my 1st one last night the Home made crust. I’ll say it was not a totally success or complete failure. The 1st crust got too soft on our large cutting board and stuck to it. So we did the 2nd one directly on the pizza stone - I know it’s to be hot but we didn’t know how to safe this one. It turned out very good. We sit directly on the deflectors on the grill we were around 525-550. Oh more experience a rookie in training. I just got my KJ classic a few weeks ago - bought it from my sister she moving out of town. I love the KJ after years of Weber cooking. I also love your channel. But you made class 101 look easier than it really is? I guess I have to retake the class not ready for 201.
quick question: do use flour or corn meal on top of your pizza peel to help the pizza slide off the peel onto the pizza stone ? Appreciate the video and the tips.
ok you use flour....think corn meal would burn ?
glad you did the store bought and fresh made pizzas!
Thank you so much for these excellent tips! I also miss Publix, as I grew up in Florida and they were everywhere! 🔥
Great video. Is it possible to make the dough a day or two ahead of time and keep in the refrigerator until the cook? Maybe just refrigerate the dough balls and take out for the final rise a couple of hours before the cook? Thanks!!
Yes, it will taste even better.
Thanks for this mate. I really like the way you present these. Really helpful.
I'm using this trick for the first time as we speak. Any concern of the odor omitted by the pieces?
Hey John, great video. I'm a self proclaimed pizza connoisseur and have been making pizza in the oven at home for years. Until recently have I began cooking pizza on the kamado and your video has been very helpful... prior to watching had a couple fails. The burning question I have is (pun intended) what is the secret to getting the kamado up to 900 degrees? How full do you fill the box? I filled mine full. Does the size of the lump matter? Do you create the biggest fire you can? How long to you leave the lid open while the fire heats up and grows? I haven't tried it without the heat deflector and stone, but it seems like these items may be impeding the air flow and keeping my kamado from heating up to 900. Best I had was just under 600. But I struggled with being patient since we were hungry and only heated up the grill with the lid open for 20-25 minutes... I assume it takes much longer?
I have a Classic 2, I believe sometimes the grill surface is much higher than the dome. That said, extremely high temps we may need a blower in the bottom vent, like a Thermoworks Billows, or something like that.
@@johncspine2787 I use the Fireboard 2 with the blower No problems at all. Hold temps like a champ.
@@cowboyup545 yeah, looking at my original reply, I should have said to get the blower attachment, without good ventilation you won’t get up to those super high temps..
@@johncspine2787 I used my blower with the fireboard 2, went to 400 degrees pretty quick plus used the timer at 18 minutes Man please it was beautiful. Thanks again.
Your tip on the metal caps under your pizza Stone was dead on. I used a metal pizza grill platter instead of a pizza stone and they turned out awesome .
John, can you do one where you use parchment paper? When I cook pizzas, I prepare 6-9 pizzas and I cook them all in 1 night. Without pre-making them on parchment paper, I find that it is way too difficult to get that many pizzas made and safely placed onto the pizza peel.
The last one must be the whorst i Ever seen in my life so far dont give upp 😂
Fantastic video. Life saver, thanks!
Those spacers are genius, I've been balling up foil!
John, another great informative video. Answered a lot of questions. Have you tried Flammkuchen on the KJ? Keep up the great work!
I gte my dough from Publix too.
Best pizza kamado video ever!!
I use corn meal on the stone, comes out better and cook at 500, gets crisp without burning like yours.
"Burning" is a subjective term when it comes to cooking a lot of things. What you say is "burnt" is a desired flavor to others; especially when we're talking about Neapolitan pizza.
He has used corn meal on the stone in the past.
No cornmeal! It burns and gives a bad flavour! Just a little flour and the proper hydration and that’s all you need.
Your basic dough and also the Neapolitan dough shows exactly the same amount of water in your recipes that you showed in the video ( both had 350g of water)????.
The difference is in the fine print highlighted in red. 300g of water in the high temp version.
Just bought a Kamado Joe today. Will definitely listen to your great advises
Great video! I recommend using 1 1/2" kiln posts to elevate the pizza stone above the heat deflector stone. Kiln posts can be purchased from most ceramic stores or online and typically cost around $1.00 to $1.50 each, depending on the size. The posts tolerate temperatures in excess of 2000 degrees F and do not off-gas any toxic fumes. However, they are fragile and will break if dropped.
I was just about to make the same comment myself
If it walks like a duck... that crust after the 22:00 minute mark looks burnt.
He's not trying to make Domino's or Papa John's pizza. Neapolitan style has that char on the bottom. It's supposed to be that way. It's called flavor.
try using cornmeal instead of flour on the peel
Well done. Love your in depth tips/tricks here. You are right on about having that air gap. A question: Knowing that an air gap between the deflector plates and the stone is a good thing and that you said putting the plates on the accessory rack is a valid option, could you just avoid the stand offs you purchased and instead place the accessory rack in the lower rack position and then place the stone on the main grate to provide that gap? This is what I do when I do use a stone (I sometimes skip the stone entirely. I have a couple videos on not using a stone at all, but I digress.). I also sometimes place the stone on the main grate and the stone and pizza on the expander rack up higher. Both have given great results for up to 3 large pizzas in a row.
Kamado Joe Thanks, John.
I have 1 3/4 inch spacers. Is this too much?
Learnt from this ..
In my learnings I found to do a stone set up exactly the same.
Get the environment two thirds hot.
Oil stone 2 minutes before pizza goes in.
Ensure your base of pizza is lightly dusted with flour before placing it on the stone.
Pop it on for 5 seconds then give 1/4 turn.
Shit and cook for two minutes.
Open and half turn.
Shut and cook for four minutes.
Open....
Sit away for one minute.
Cut... Serve...
You're welcome ❤️🙏✅
New to your channel.. Awesome tip on adding that space between the two stones.. Thanks for sharing.. I shared.. :")
Dude you nailed it! So many people muck up cooking pizza! You know what you’re doing! It’s the subtle details that you use that make a great pizza!
Compliments for the Neapolitan pizza. As an Italian I can tell you that you can take it off even after a minute. Two questions: 1) how long does it take to bring the kamado with the stone inside to 450°C? 2) how much does the temperature of the kamado drop after a batch? Thank you.
This is great, very informative.
That pie looks awesome!
Need a beer?
If I don't have the heat deflector. Can the pizza stone handle the direct heat? Will it Crack?
What size pizza stone do I buy?
Excellent video, I've been watching a lot of videos on pizza. This was the best, so informative. Thank you
Kamado Joe warranty is useless. Customer service is even worse. Try to get something replaced. Will never happen. Their reps are trained to do everything they can to deny claims.
How would you get a crispy crust?
Thanks for the video, made the best store-bought pizza of course I loaded it up with more stuff. Walmart's Brand for $3.28 made into a champion Pizza.
That second pizza looked disgusting. My god why was it grey on bottom? Looked like the Blue Waffle picture.
The Publix pizza dough works great if you let it rest for a couple days in the refrigerator, ball should expand in fridge and fill bag, and then let it rise in a covered and oiled bowl for at least 4 hours at semi warm room temperature. I use this dough often and no longer have issues with snap back like I had in the past using it directly from the store.
Another Publix tip is that they keep these frozen and set out thawed balls, you can normally ask for and purchase balls still frozen and keep them in your freezer ready to thaw and rest in fridge before allowing to rise at room temperature.
Heat soaking and stabilizing the ceramics is such an under-emphasized technique. It's absolutely essential.
Thanks for this video. I wish I had watched it before I made pizza last night. I had the heat deflectors on the bottom and although the fire box was scorching, the temperature in the dome was not. Could you use two pizza stones on top of the deflector shields instead of spacers?
Last one is scorched/burnt and it seems the dome temp wasn’t as hot as the stone. Would’ve been a better cook at around 700-800 degrees. Great comparison video.
I know this is an old video, but I was wondering. If you want the pizza stone higher in the dome could you place it on the Kamado extender rack.
so why did you move to the big joe for the "almost" homemade option instead of the classic?
Okay, I would have been surprised if it were a mechanical issue.
I was wondering the same. I'm torn hard between getting the classic or big Joe. Weeks and i can't decide.
Maybe Things on a grill are different, but in Italy real Pizza is made at 600-800 fahrenheit in a wood fired pizza oven, it bakes for just a few minutes ( 4-5 minutes)
It looks not so good its too burnt try again