Whilst under sail, the anchor is secured in place with a shackle, it is quite a heavy object, so you don't want it to drop by accident. It is also operated by a pneumatic winch, and there was a general black out in the machine room, so such a thing would not have worked, and the lowered anchor could not have been held in place.
i was one of the R.n.l.i. and i have to say it was a though rescue but everyone was saved. i also think the anchor was not in use that day was because of rough sea not enough time to put it in the water.. Also engine was going to be used but it failed.. I am a shore crew member of lifeboats and i can tell u one thing i was wrecked after it. the main thing is 12 to 14 people saved..
Harewer, the captain may have ordered that the sails to be taken down to avoid a mast breaking in the strong winds, and falling on the crew, if the ship became wedged against the shore.
Anchors are only effective in limited circumstances when things like this go wrong. Usually, but not in this case, attempting to sail the vessel out of danger is the most effective. The Skipper saved his passengers, that became his primary duty when he could not save his ship.
Couldn't they have dropped anchor and waited for a tug to tow her? Or is it to deep, because i would've thought that was the correct option, instead of being blown onshore. also couldn't she had sailed offshore?
Antipodean33 I don't think so, because the boat was taking on water, therefore adding weight so it would still sink, the anchor would only stop it moving forward backwards left and right
Out of interest why wouldn't an anchor have been effective? I know it's sometimes difficult to grip on certain sea beds, but surely if nothing else it would've slowed it down?
I understand it was a sailing training vessel but can't believe it didn't have an engine as backup. Even if it doesn't get used 99% of the time surely it should have one as a safety precaution and this could've been avoided.
i don't think he could have avoided... the wind came from the wrong direction to navigate away easily. with a square-rig it's you cannot sail sharp on the wind. the wind was south, and could only bring them straight to those rocks. Don't tell Pieter wasn't experienced !
sail training vessel is not definitive for how it operates, it's a definition of a kind of ship and sets the rules to which it must comply by international standards. As far as facts are known the ship was underway on engine power and when the enigine failed the captain and crew tried to get out of harms way by using the sail. When that didn't work they presumably dropped the sails again and prepared to abandon ship in which they succeeded. TY irish rescue services and other ship for a great job
Hell, she was a schooner, there are furled sails on her booms, she could have sailed herself out of danger. Then there is an anchor, the seas weren't running that high. If she didn't have time to do either, the captain was careless by motoring too close to a lee shore, or if he wasn't a piss poor sailer.
Ya why were they out in this weather that old ship shouldn’t be out in this with that many crew too....look at the risk to emergency services for no reason
Glad everyone was rescued safely. Can't understand why the "skipper" didn't raise a few more sails and navigate away from the shoreline. There was plenty of wind to pull them out to sea. I'm guessing he wasn't an experienced "sailor." Could have avoided disaster and saved a beautiful old ship.
Nobody lost! Nothing short of a miracle. Brave men and women.
I'm so grateful to the rescue service that saved these people, without them it could have been tragic and I could have lost a good friend x x x
My cousin was one of those rescued. Thank goodness this didn't turn tragic
ti was for 2 weeks my home and now is ti gone.
and esther still look happy.
yes i remember very incredible story
This is why I would never own a ship like this with a single engine/screw. Beautiful ship, you have to wonder how well the engine was maintained.
www.topsailinsurance.com/news/item/investigation-into-tall-ship-astrid-s-sinking-determines-vessel-should-not-have-been-at-sea.html
Wow, Well done all concerned,
@3:07 He's the bugger that took a bath in the bilges and then pulled the plug out.
Whilst under sail, the anchor is secured in place with a shackle, it is quite a heavy object, so you don't want it to drop by accident. It is also operated by a pneumatic winch, and there was a general black out in the machine room, so such a thing would not have worked, and the lowered anchor could not have been held in place.
I’d say that sailing captain deserves a medal.sailing a ship into a cliff in broad daylight. Heroic!
Thank goodness it was in daylight. Imagine how much more frightening at night...
respect for the skipper
Can someone explain to my why the captain didn't/couldn't drop the anchor when he realized he was being blown onto the lee shore?
i was one of the R.n.l.i. and i have to say it was a though rescue but everyone was saved. i also think the anchor was not in use that day was because of rough sea not enough time to put it in the water.. Also engine was going to be used but it failed.. I am a shore crew member of lifeboats and i can tell u one thing i was wrecked after it. the main thing is 12 to 14 people saved..
Nothing as bad as watching a fine sailing vessel go down, especially on a rocky shoreline, tragic
Harewer, the captain may have ordered that the sails to be taken down to avoid a mast breaking in the strong winds, and falling on the crew, if the ship became wedged against the shore.
Anchors are only effective in limited circumstances when things like this go wrong. Usually, but not in this case, attempting to sail the vessel out of danger is the most effective. The Skipper saved his passengers, that became his primary duty when he could not save his ship.
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Couldn't they have dropped anchor and waited for a tug to tow her? Or is it to deep, because i would've thought that was the correct option, instead of being blown onshore. also couldn't she had sailed offshore?
Antipodean33 I don't think so, because the boat was taking on water, therefore adding weight so it would still sink, the anchor would only stop it moving forward backwards left and right
It was taking on water because it hit the damn rocks.
Out of interest why wouldn't an anchor have been effective? I know it's sometimes difficult to grip on certain sea beds, but surely if nothing else it would've slowed it down?
I understand it was a sailing training vessel but can't believe it didn't have an engine as backup. Even if it doesn't get used 99% of the time surely it should have one as a safety precaution and this could've been avoided.
i don't think he could have avoided... the wind came from the wrong direction to navigate away easily. with a square-rig it's you cannot sail sharp on the wind. the wind was south, and could only bring them straight to those rocks. Don't tell Pieter wasn't experienced !
sail training vessel is not definitive for how it operates, it's a definition of a kind of ship and sets the rules to which it must comply by international standards. As far as facts are known the ship was underway on engine power and when the enigine failed the captain and crew tried to get out of harms way by using the sail. When that didn't work they presumably dropped the sails again and prepared to abandon ship in which they succeeded. TY irish rescue services and other ship for a great job
next time get an actual interviewer who listens to the interviewed!
Hell, she was a schooner, there are furled sails on her booms, she could have sailed herself out of danger. Then there is an anchor, the seas weren't running that high. If she didn't have time to do either, the captain was careless by motoring too close to a lee shore, or if he wasn't a piss poor sailer.
Ya why were they out in this weather that old ship shouldn’t be out in this with that many crew too....look at the risk to emergency services for no reason
Glad everyone was rescued safely. Can't understand why the "skipper" didn't raise a few more sails and navigate away from the shoreline. There was plenty of wind to pull them out to sea. I'm guessing he wasn't an experienced "sailor." Could have avoided disaster and saved a beautiful old ship.
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