Hi Edgardo, I would like to say a huge thankYOU of your video on the basic Bongo pattern (Dance Papi). This all happened this year, in September 2022. I had bought my first bongo (LP "E" Series), then I loved them that much, I had bought another, the Giovanni Galaxy Bongo, then got that so enthused about them, I had recently bought 3 LP Congas, Classics Series. I have not missed a days practice since my first purchase in September. I am a woodwind player (saxophones etc, ex Navy Band) and wanted to learn about latin percussion and respect the artistry etc. It has taken me on a wonderful path of broadening my musical journeys. Your articulate and clear ways of explaining things are brilliant. Thanks again! Kind regards, Kenny (Sydney, Australia)
My dear Kenny, Thanks for your kind comments. Congrats on your multiple purchase of Bongó and Conga drums. It looks like you got "the bug"... Its a good thing, and your rhythmic approach to your horns will never be the same. good luck and please share the videos at will.... There will some more coming up, but frankly I am so busy playing that I don't have much time for that... If you ever want a one on one class via Zoom... It can be arranged even from one continent to another! The magic of internet connection: I have students all over the world! Gracias! Thank you.
Edgardo, you are truly great man! I sense the true Latin heritage of real music of which you provides. You are totally in service of good music for the people. Therefore I had to place this reaction to acknowledge your positivity! Gracias amigo and greetings from Amsterdam Olanda.
Hola Richard, Thank you very much for your support to my channel and videos... PD: I lived in Amsterdam for 4 + years from 1982 to 86... I develop my professional career as a conguero-singer, right on the city where you live, and traveling extensively through out Europe. Places like The Kroeg, Club Iboya, Melkweg, Paradiso, (some of this may not exist by now) and so many other Clubs were my home base at my early 20's. I LOVE AMSTERDAM, the city and its people! Be safe! Gracias.
Have had earlier Remo frame drums that had the same problem.They still played ok even if a little ugly. Newer fiberskyn heads use that extra layer to warm up the tone of the head, control the ring/overtones, and give the look of a natural head ? Had earlier fiberskyn heads on my LP's and didn't care much for them. Have heard good things about the newer ones though . Unfortunately we don't have any place here where I can audition the newer generation fiberskyn. Bought a set of Roberto Quintero, fiberglass, Gon Bops which came with Remo Skyndeep heads. Nice slap, but too much ring on the open tones for me. Not too noticable in a band setting, however when playing fully acoustic gigs, I could hear the ring. Fixed that with some Manito steer skins. Probably gonna' bite the bullet and buy some fiberskyn to use on the Gon Bops as an option. You tried the fiberskyn on any fiberglass congas? As you mentioned, " different tools for different things". I like having options too...Thanks for sharing!!
Hi Wave, Thank's for your comment and viewing this video... You just have to explore and stick to what works for you and there is no formula for all drums... But you already know that... Regarding the ringing, well again, there are many reasons for the potential ringing, and many "cures" for it as well. For instance, I have wooden LP Classics. and they are amongst my favorite drums to play, but even with natural hides from DIVERSE origins and manufacturers they had a ring after the slap! Fine tuning (search for the overtones applying pressure with one finger in the middle of the drum head, and lightly tap with your other had at the edge right above the tuning lug, or with the tuning wrench) you will hear differences of over tones, try to even them out by tuning or de-tuning in short increments... Well... May be that didn't work to solve it. Roll a rectangular piece of bubble wrap or a small hand towel, then, either from the bottom of the drum or remove the skin if you want to reach more comfortably, reach in and tape de roll you just made in between to of the inner tuning plates going perpendicular to the floor, in the direction of the grain of the wood (this also works on fiber glass drums) . Experiment by taping or gluing a small piece of a sponge, or even a small rectangular piece of carpet inside the drum. What are we trying to do here? Killing the sound wave that bounces inside the drum back and forth creating that ring or overtone, and a piece of foam or carpet or sponge, may slightly do that, but be careful not to over do it, because then you will be affecting other sounds and frequencies as well, possibly killing the bass or "drying" too much the slap. I heard of (but never try it) people releasing one of the screws on the tuning plates, and another one on the tuning plate right across, grab a string or a short fishing line, tighten it across the drum on the inside, re tighten the screws (obviously), now they have a hanging string inside the drum right across of it, then they grab a piece of towel or old rag and tightly hang it in the center of that string, again to try to kill that sound wave that is "bouncing" inside... Real audio experts can expand on this topic ON and ON! Congueros just experiment with things... Trap set drummers know well about the "Gorila Snot" a soft sort of jello material they put strategically somewhere on top of the drum head (outside) to kill overtones and dry out the sound. I have used duct tape to muffle ring on the hembra sound of Bongó... I know, it's a very long answer but the short of it is: with the variety of Conga drums, Conga drums materials, shapes, skin types, etc, etc, things are a "one drum at the time experimentation"... Or you can just accept them the way they are, tune them well, take them to the gig and play them! Good luck amigo!
Maestro, me gustaría saber que utilizó para remover el film? Tengo varios de esos Remo Fiberskin que le pasó lo mismo con el sudor de las manos. Cuando pueda por favor dejeme saber. Saludos!!!
Hola Jorge, Bueno en realidad el sistema es bien simple. Tienes que removerlos físicamente, no hay substancia química que le puedas agregar para hacerlo (al menos que yo sepa y pueda recomendar). Yo empiezo en algún lugar donde la parte pelada muestra espacio entre los dos films, o sea como una burbuja, o con una navaja o cuchillo pequeño y bien afilado corto un pedacito del 'film" que se despegó y empiezo a tirar de el en la dirección que me lo permita y voy sacándolo, a veces salen pedazos bien grandes, otras no. No sé si aplicándole calor con soplete o encendedor tipo antorcha pueda ayudar a remover las partes que presentan más dificultad de terminar de despegarlo. Con este sistema y un poco de paciencia, tuve buen resultado en las dos o tres ocasiones en las que me tomé el trabajo de hacerlo. Suerte con tu proyecto!
Hola Angel, Gracias por tu comentario, no he probado en mis congas las Evans, pero si he visto y tocado en una conga LP Galaxy de 11:75, Fibra de Vidrio, de un colega, y francamente no me convenció mucho. No me gustó mucho la calidad del Open tone (abierto) en ellas. Pero antes de dar mi opinion completa de ellas ya que no las he investigado y usado en MIS congas suficiente tiempo para "criticarlas" prefiero aceptar y disfrutar de tu buen resultado con ellas. Gracias!
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Hi Edgardo, I would like to say a huge thankYOU of your video on the basic Bongo pattern (Dance Papi). This all happened this year, in September 2022. I had bought my first bongo (LP "E" Series), then I loved them that much, I had bought another, the Giovanni Galaxy Bongo, then got that so enthused about them, I had recently bought 3 LP Congas, Classics Series. I have not missed a days practice since my first purchase in September. I am a woodwind player (saxophones etc, ex Navy Band) and wanted to learn about latin percussion and respect the artistry etc. It has taken me on a wonderful path of broadening my musical journeys. Your articulate and clear ways of explaining things are brilliant. Thanks again! Kind regards, Kenny (Sydney, Australia)
My dear Kenny, Thanks for your kind comments. Congrats on your multiple purchase of Bongó and Conga drums. It looks like you got "the bug"... Its a good thing, and your rhythmic approach to your horns will never be the same. good luck and please share the videos at will.... There will some more coming up, but frankly I am so busy playing that I don't have much time for that... If you ever want a one on one class via Zoom... It can be arranged even from one continent to another! The magic of internet connection: I have students all over the world! Gracias! Thank you.
Edgardo, you are truly great man! I sense the true Latin heritage of real music of which you provides. You are totally in service of good music for the people. Therefore I had to place this reaction to acknowledge your positivity! Gracias amigo and greetings from Amsterdam Olanda.
Hola Richard, Thank you very much for your support to my channel and videos... PD: I lived in Amsterdam for 4 + years from 1982 to 86... I develop my professional career as a conguero-singer, right on the city where you live, and traveling extensively through out Europe. Places like The Kroeg, Club Iboya, Melkweg, Paradiso, (some of this may not exist by now) and so many other Clubs were my home base at my early 20's. I LOVE AMSTERDAM, the city and its people! Be safe! Gracias.
Have had earlier Remo frame drums that had the same problem.They still played ok even if a little ugly. Newer fiberskyn heads use that extra layer to warm up the tone of the head, control the ring/overtones, and give the look of a natural head ? Had earlier fiberskyn heads on my LP's and didn't care much for them. Have heard good things about the newer ones though . Unfortunately we don't have any place here where I can audition the newer generation fiberskyn. Bought a set of Roberto Quintero, fiberglass, Gon Bops which came with Remo Skyndeep heads. Nice slap, but too much ring on the open tones for me. Not too noticable in a band setting, however when playing fully acoustic gigs, I could hear the ring. Fixed that with some Manito steer skins. Probably gonna' bite the bullet and buy some fiberskyn to use on the Gon Bops as an option. You tried the fiberskyn on any fiberglass congas? As you mentioned, " different tools for different things". I like having options too...Thanks for sharing!!
Hi Wave, Thank's for your comment and viewing this video... You just have to explore and stick to what works for you and there is no formula for all drums... But you already know that... Regarding the ringing, well again, there are many reasons for the potential ringing, and many "cures" for it as well. For instance, I have wooden LP Classics. and they are amongst my favorite drums to play, but even with natural hides from DIVERSE origins and manufacturers they had a ring after the slap! Fine tuning (search for the overtones applying pressure with one finger in the middle of the drum head, and lightly tap with your other had at the edge right above the tuning lug, or with the tuning wrench) you will hear differences of over tones, try to even them out by tuning or de-tuning in short increments... Well... May be that didn't work to solve it. Roll a rectangular piece of bubble wrap or a small hand towel, then, either from the bottom of the drum or remove the skin if you want to reach more comfortably, reach in and tape de roll you just made in between to of the inner tuning plates going perpendicular to the floor, in the direction of the grain of the wood (this also works on fiber glass drums) . Experiment by taping or gluing a small piece of a sponge, or even a small rectangular piece of carpet inside the drum. What are we trying to do here? Killing the sound wave that bounces inside the drum back and forth creating that ring or overtone, and a piece of foam or carpet or sponge, may slightly do that, but be careful not to over do it, because then you will be affecting other sounds and frequencies as well, possibly killing the bass or "drying" too much the slap. I heard of (but never try it) people releasing one of the screws on the tuning plates, and another one on the tuning plate right across, grab a string or a short fishing line, tighten it across the drum on the inside, re tighten the screws (obviously), now they have a hanging string inside the drum right across of it, then they grab a piece of towel or old rag and tightly hang it in the center of that string, again to try to kill that sound wave that is "bouncing" inside... Real audio experts can expand on this topic ON and ON! Congueros just experiment with things... Trap set drummers know well about the "Gorila Snot" a soft sort of jello material they put strategically somewhere on top of the drum head (outside) to kill overtones and dry out the sound. I have used duct tape to muffle ring on the hembra sound of Bongó... I know, it's a very long answer but the short of it is: with the variety of Conga drums, Conga drums materials, shapes, skin types, etc, etc, things are a "one drum at the time experimentation"... Or you can just accept them the way they are, tune them well, take them to the gig and play them! Good luck amigo!
I realy enjoy when you played two at the same time lol...
Yeah right? (LOL)
@@Eddysuconga The two congas - over-tones are a bit different and it's have subtil effect...
@@mahapooram Definitely!
good walnut crackkking slap sounds mon
Maestro, me gustaría saber que utilizó para remover el film? Tengo varios de esos Remo Fiberskin que le pasó lo mismo con el sudor de las manos. Cuando pueda por favor dejeme saber. Saludos!!!
Hola Jorge, Bueno en realidad el sistema es bien simple. Tienes que removerlos físicamente, no hay substancia química que le puedas agregar para hacerlo (al menos que yo sepa y pueda recomendar). Yo empiezo en algún lugar donde la parte pelada muestra espacio entre los dos films, o sea como una burbuja, o con una navaja o cuchillo pequeño y bien afilado corto un pedacito del 'film" que se despegó y empiezo a tirar de el en la dirección que me lo permita y voy sacándolo, a veces salen pedazos bien grandes, otras no. No sé si aplicándole calor con soplete o encendedor tipo antorcha pueda ayudar a remover las partes que presentan más dificultad de terminar de despegarlo. Con este sistema y un poco de paciencia, tuve buen resultado en las dos o tres ocasiones en las que me tomé el trabajo de hacerlo. Suerte con tu proyecto!
@@Eddysuconga Maestro, muchas gracias por su respusta y por su tiempo. Entonces manos a la obra. Un cordial saludo.
Muy buen video ! have you tried Evans conga heads? I use them and for me they sound better tan remo and cheaper too
Hola Angel, Gracias por tu comentario, no he probado en mis congas las Evans, pero si he visto y tocado en una conga LP Galaxy de 11:75, Fibra de Vidrio, de un colega, y francamente no me convenció mucho. No me gustó mucho la calidad del Open tone (abierto) en ellas. Pero antes de dar mi opinion completa de ellas ya que no las he investigado y usado en MIS congas suficiente tiempo para "criticarlas" prefiero aceptar y disfrutar de tu buen resultado con ellas. Gracias!