🍄 All About Aborts! 🍄
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Can you leave abort on the substrate? Are they edible?
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Thanks for spending the time to actually go along with YT Rhythm
I have a test jar that I have been playing with. As I see any abort starting I fill the jar complete with water and try to save them 😉those lit jars with zippies was an amazing idea 💡
I ate 2g of aborts last week. Had a lit bit better flavor I would have to say. Slower they grow the better flavor. Fruits in colder climates have a lit bit better flavor. I only harvest the bigger aborts. Always leave the small ones
If you had to pinpoint the number one cause of most aborts, what would it be?
@@captainhotbunz659 dryness
TH-cam overlords, please chill, we are talking about edible mushrooms out here, not human fetus 💀
😂😂😂 For reaaaaal
Right?! Psh... youtube hahaha
Yup. Crazy TH-cam. We should be able to talk about whatever the hell we want, no censorship!! Whatever happened to freedom of speech?!
@@chandracox6814 I agree, youtube is just power trippin.
Amen 🙏🏻 the right to my own medicine
I just learned, the hard way, that aborts and pins are stronger than fully grown mushrooms. What I thought was going to be an innocuous addition to my beef broth ended up being a bit powerful so early in the morning
"Whiteboard Tek" 🤣
A note on flavonoids: flavonoids are almost always white to yellow. The bluing is caused by an enzyme breaking down psilo- molecules and joining them into a molecule that closely resembles molecular indigo. The aborts' tissues start to break down and these enzymes get released, similarly to how a mature fruit will blue/blacken when squished. The myc are doing this to break it down further and transport the basic nutrients to the favored fruit bodies. It's not "getting stuck" as compounds build up like a little chitin balloon chem factory; it's actually doing the opposite by un-doing itself.
High flavonoid contents will actually prevent the bluing effect as flavonoids are anti-oxidant and oxygen is needed to create the pseudo-indigo. This is why water added to dried powder causes it to blue -- the oxygen in the water molecule serves as the oxygen source, similarly to water on iron/rust.
"...it's actually un-doing itself."
Holy fuck, mushrooms are incredible 🤯
Dude, I couldn’t find a straight answer to this question and then from the heavens, your video pops up. Thank you for your contributions
Glad I could help!
Literally same
The struggle 😆 me too man! Cheers sage
Too much humidity
HILARIOUS THAT TH-cam POST THE DEFINITION OF AN ABORTION :) THOUGH THE DEFINITION IS FLAWED!
What I've experienced is some coming up as monstrous. No stem, just a cap, growing into the shape of a small brain.
Another killer, informative video from Sage. Thank you for doing what you do friend.
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Such a Common issue that has little or vague information surrounding it.
Very informative thx
Aaaaaah ! I feel better (not to have to harvest these pins with the rest of the shrooms...) ! Thanks a lot !
This video helped me stop myself from digging up every abort and saved the substrate for more future flushes. Nervous to see them turn blue/green but hopeful it continues to be reclaimed in time. We appreciate you! 🍄❤😃
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Update?
@@Caporicco I've gone 12 for 12 all in one grow bags. Had contamination in 1 but got 2 flushes prior and 1 got some kind of fruit fly/gnat infestation but I got 1 flush as well so 100% success on all, leaving aborts is all good but can give you anxiety about contamination when some start turning colors lol
@@jesseb1298 well damn!!! 👍👍👍
im glad you're spreading the power of knowledge
More to come!
One of the top indole levels at Psi cup spring 22 was on an F1 wild cubensis abort...
Thank you Sir! Top notch as always.
Glad you appreciate it, thank you 😊
Was on my way to shroomery for this exact topic... stopped here first. I love this channel♥️💙
Glad to hear that!
great info, this all is exactly what I was looking for!
Cheers Jake 🍄
Your vid’s have been extremely helpful thank you 💕
Glad you like them!
This channel has been SO helpful, keep it up❤
Thank you 😊
mine aborted 3 days after transferring to bulk. formed a bunch of tiny caps while it was still a small chunk of colonized spawn. hopefully that didn't interrupt colonization of the bulk substrate.
Commenting to keep the algorithm gremlins happy. Great content man. Very helpful.
Thank you Nate 😊
I hope the gremlins are satisfied!
Excellent video, as usual. I love how YT automatically thinks the word ab_rt pertains only to pregnancy. Like the word is never used in any other context. Geeeeze 🤪🤨🙄
I’m pretty sure when he says he’s not showing any fruiting bodies in this TH-cam channel hes talking about not showing it because TH-cam would think it’s a psychedelic mushroom not because of anything to do with murdering babies. I could be wrong and if so I’m used to it. 😊
@@thechrisdud this person is talking about the fact youtube has a disclaimer under the video explaining aborts and linking to the NHS
TH-cam does this a lot. They do the same with vaccines.
And even if that WAS the topic at hand... how is that a problem? Algorithms are just so...damn...stupid
Can a get a time masheen ride back to the 60s please?
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for the info, very helpful for a newbie
Glad I could help 😊
crazy, i had a bunch of aborts for dinner this evening seemed to be more potent
I concur it may just be my imagination but I do think smaller=💪
@Barry Weaver I'm sorry I've gotta be the one to tell you this man, but, uh.... she's lying to you bro.
@Barry Weaver 3 inches long and about as big around as a can of corn bro. Nothing but crazy dangling fury... uh, well... not not so much the dangly part... you know, now that i think about it it does look like a big fat ant eater abort....😂 😂
They are, by three times.
They are
My shoebox was doing great. Noticed the fuzzy feet making it’s way higher up on some of the bigger fruits so I added a fan to the grow room. Came back the next day and most of the fruits and pins started to abort. Conditions got way to dry. Hopefully I get something out of it
Fans will really dry out a grow for sure.
I use a pc fan with speed controller and put it on a timer, comes on for 5min every few hours, also put a humidifier in the walk in closet I put my tub in, seems to work great
better to maybe just fan your mushrooms once a day then add circulating air
Where was your logic when putting a fan in your grow room?Read a book on Mycology (Fungus). You will learn all you need with any text book about the subject. The legal clinics in Oregon get there fungi from Mycologist and they read books.
@@FloridaMan-xu1iw It’s called experimenting. Everybody’s conditions are different. I know what causes that. I’ll leave the book reading to you.
This was an amazing video, no one really touches this subject
Thank you Seth!
Thank you
They put up an ‘abortion’ info graphic alert up on this wow 😂
They are strong. Almost threw them out because I was misguided. Let four or five very small mushrooms dry in the sun, ate them the next day. Damn. I bet they only weighed a gram together and did a job on me.
Tasty :)
Thank you🖤
My pleasure 🙏
First time growing.....had 2 flushes and then things got slow......so I did a 5 hour water dunk and I got a nice 3rd flush......then I got a large amount of tiny pins that all aborted......and advice? Is this the end of my cake? I did a quick dunk since I had success with dunking the cake. These were Ryza pods BTW.
I might have missed this, but if you knock some loose or free, can you still leave them? And if you choose to harvest them, how do you dry them?
Awesome 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Mine all looked fine so I harvested my first batch minus the small ones but after I plucked them the blueish green color was in the bottom of the stems below the grow medium where it wasn't visible. Is this good or bad? It is the first flush
That's the good stuff man
Here's some mist.
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You sir are a legend thanks!
Glad to help!
I've been watching a lot of your vids about FAE, surface conditions, aborts, etc. There is... so many different advice out there. It is all confusing to someone new like me. XD I wish I could see tablesheets with numbers to test out all these different theories such as when to introduce FAE, whether or not to mist the cake, etc. I had a couple questions tho.
1. So I've S2B 4 days ago in monotubs. From the advice I've received, I was going to induce fruiting conditions with FAE/mist once my casing layer colonizes a little bit more. Do you introduce FAE/mist immediately when you S2B in the tubs? If not, about how long do you go before introducing FAE/mist?
2. I've heard misting directly onto the cakes could stress the mycelium in the cakes and that I should just spray the sides of the walls. I should be misting the cakes somewhat to get proper surface conditions though, right..?
3. How often should I be introducing fresh air to unmodified monotubs?
I can go into a lot of detail on all these points with my mentorship program, but in short all of these things depends on many many factors. Setups, grows, blue thumb, all of these things will come into play here. It can get really long, I’m going to be live-streaming later so you can ask me these questions there if not mentorship. I will answer the 2nd question now as it is the simplest. No, you should not be misting the walls, always the cake itself. The surface conditions never lie. If it looks dry (aka no water droplets) give it a mist.
@@Mycophilia Okay, and okay! I'll check out the live stream! Thanks!
@@Mycophilia I was told not to spray directly on the shrooms, but the lid and the walls. You can bruise the fruit or disturb the mycelium ? Talking about a monotub modified with 6- 2 inch filter holes. Then just fan 2-3 times a day and mist.
@@beachygirl30
Je pense que ça dépend du vaporisateur. Certains vaporisateur ne font pas de brume assez fines pour pulvériser directement le gâteau.
I love whiteboards!!!🎉
Whiteboard TEK, it's a Mycophilia tradition :)
OK i just had this happen..... I Love you Man :)
So, is it recommended to leave aborts in order to turn into mycelium? Or better to pick them?
Do you know anything about "Dancing Tiger" mushrooms? I'm having a hard time finding information about them.
Coir lover. So they’ll grow just like any other coir lover (GT etc…).
I really liked the video, literally watched it twice, and am really liking your content, I guess this video really got me because I seen success in a bagged substrate from mushroom supplies of the fruiting, but many lifting ones started aborting but bigger ones came.
I really have two questions if it blues/blackens does the fruit still contain nutrients even as a baby, and I pretty much understand you say in maybe the last 45 seconds of your video it is okay to leave them there- the MAJOR question is-- can a mushroom recover from blueing once this has happened 🤨?
Thanks again really enjoy your videos, have been lots of help, I know many people will comment on this question for help, thanks to!
If a mushroom aborts, they will still contain the nutrients no matter the stage of growth. They will not unabort, once aborted they’re dead and will begin returning to the mycelium/decomposing
@@Mycophilia very good to know.. thank you very much!!!🍄🍄💜💜💜
When your conditions are too dry, do you just mist more, or can you actually add water carefully? Or should you wait until the flush is complete to rehydrate?
Si c'est trop sec je rajoute de l'eau avec précaution directement dans le substrat.
Your art skills are improving 😉
I’m happy someone noticed! 🤣
Keep up the good work 🤙
Appreciate it 🍄
So ,after 4 and a half months,I've got 5mushrooms out of a boomer bag,one tub that stalled.,plenty of agar slants,plates.just can't get to fruit.getting discouraged,have tried Ben's rice, ended up with a bunch of mush,gave up on that, currently using bird seed to colonize,cvg
UB is workable but not very noob friendly.
Regular grains or brown rice is the way to go
Watching under the context of The national library of medicine abortion health info under the video & it still holds water (no pun intended)
Awesome vid
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3rd pee and all the spores come out the one before that has all the active compounds in a study I saw
Please help have been looking for a video about exposed grains and cannot find it now🙏🏼🙏🏼
My latest video on Patreon covers that. It will be free in 3 weeks 😊
Thank you,
My pleasure 😇
Thanks very informative
I have plenty of aborts and feel like it's time to dunk the monotub cake. Would I need to cut or pull all of them out first or would it be OK to leave them?
What did u end up doing sorry for late response
Hello
I’m in my third flush with GT and there are lots of small mushrooms and a couple of decent size however they have stopped growing. Plenty of moisture and Air. What can do I here?
May be contam.
@@Mycophilia ok thanks
For the 1st flush. Should I harvest everything at once or pick them each as they ripe. Cause some are growing faster than others and still getting random pins as some are ready to harvest. HELP PLEASE
th-cam.com/video/6Ul81ntxxw0/w-d-xo.html
I’m growing PE currently and it’s been a little over 2 months now. I have ONE PINE (seriously) growing. Why do you suppose that’s happening?
Hard to tell without your exact circumstances as it's very context specific. I do private one-on-one mentorship, if interested please inquire here!
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I'm curious about aborts with oyster mushrooms - which seem to be going yellow/brown and looking dried out... once this starts happening, is there any saving them? In other words, can you save an abort in progress or once you see a change, is it pretty much done?
Nope no way to save. Happens with oysters all the time when humidity is too low
Do aborts typically take on tiny spherical shapes? Like ball shaped mushrooms?
No not usually. You may be mistaking aborts with blobs, which are common with varieties like APEs and other mutants
Why does youtube strike some mushroom content, but not others?
I’ve had a lot of ideas over the years as to why but nothing really sticks. There’s no real rhyme or reason ime after being in the scene for a few years.
All of my pins are around the edges nothing in the middle and it looks like they’re trying to ab_rt. I don’t know what to do
The surface is too dry. Check out:
th-cam.com/video/7HbHcI511ks/w-d-xo.html
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Whenever my son tells me AI is going to be smarter than people soon, I show him a TH-cam warning, like the one shown here. Ha! Abortion warnings for the slang use of an abbreviated word. Nice work TH-cam AI.
I had some big aborts and they got like fuzzy on the outside and i harvested them and ate one fresh thinking i eould risk giving them a taste test with one. The mushroom i ate would be 0.3g dried and like hour and half later i was watching a show and syarted to feel the dose and it was like i ate around 3g!
I had aborts because thr room got too hot i think wheb i was gone but it was a cool experience and i will try to recreate it with a last spown with my new grow so i can leave all the regular ones for microdosing
It turns out the magic trigger word is not cube it’s abort . Let’s call them the little ones that didn’t make it . Everyone should know what you’re talking about.
It is cube
i love how you're speaking semi code haha
What happen if i breack mushroom kit in bulk substrate when stop producing
I wouldn’t bother, especially if your bulk substrate is coir or CVG. If I were to do it, which I wouldn’t because you won’t get much in return for lots of added work, I would do it only to a nutritious sub like manure. It would be much more effective to put new grains to new substrate. Check out my video “How many Flushes”
Are blue means great on coco coir? Or dung loving???
They’re fine on both. Stick with coir
I’m on my second flush and I had at least 50 or more pins but only three grew into full size Frits the rest stopped and aborted well most of them the others are still small and I have some other pins forming so I can’t tell what’s going to happen which those though. My first flush was good though aside from it fruiting unevenly. Should I pick all the pins(I’ve already picked the ones that I was sure were aborted) and see if I can get another flush or is it probably fighting contam and i should bury it?
I’d pick them and give them another chance, see what happens
I picked them all yesterday and heavily misted will update thanks for the reply💯
@@Ncb45 👏
@@Mycophilia just harvested and I have more pins that are growing I’m glad I gave it another chance I appreciate the advice💯💯
@@Ncb45 awesome, glad to hear that! Thanks for the update.
I read 70% of brf cake pins will abort. I like jar tek I'm familiar with it I have it dialed in .. is there a different substrate I can use in jar tek to get more of the pins to be viable?
That is widely incorrect about 70% aborting.
BRF has absolutely nothing to do with aborts so don’t worry.
"taste"
love it.
Hey dude, does ur old channel still exist? I'd love to check it out.
It does but there’s no videos on there anymore
This got me in the mood for sum flavonoids
Where is this free on your page?
Patreon was terminated in February. I created a website so I’m not beholden to any social media company, link in description.
What mening if they pop up? Also abort?
my bday coming this my 1st grow i wabt to avoid all that if i cn
Are white pins a light issue?
They should be white until they grow out more
We all love flavonoid rich mushrooms.
Sure do 😋
Thia is great info! Thx fkr sharing:)
Pro-Lifeer!!!!
How come my second flush is significantly less fruit. I hydrated for 3 hours is that long enough
Most of your energy was used in the first flush
Which is normal
@@Mycophilia thanks for the reply
A little longer soak wouldn’t hurt
I ended up having about 6 flushes. The fruit grew larger but less of a cluster. Very happy with the results in the end
But if u want a second flush... it wont contaminate or rot the next round of mushrooms? sure? idk
No, unless your tub was already contaminated.
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Hello! If it's due to contamination, what sould I do? All the best 🍀
This has nothing to do with contamination
Oh, I thought thats what you are saying around 5.33 :)
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That flavonoids 🤣
Have you even seen little brown spots on stems?
Yes, without pics it’s hard to tell 100% but most likely culprit is pseudomonas (bacteria). Still edible
So after an abort will they refruit again or is it done
yes they will
any other sites that ship LC already git from ITW but they are out of the strain i wanted
None that I can recommend really
For various reasons
Appreciate the info brother! 🍄
Had about 60% abort, was confused.. Must be genetics? 🤔
Yes, if the conditions are fine
“Flavanoids” 😂
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i love you videos
Thanks Kevin, glad you enjoy them 😊
An abortion disclaimer on this video. Too damn funny.
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You are wonderful :)
Thank you 💜
OK, My head hurts from learning so much..... I have a QUESTION : I need a slight heat source. What should i use ? a Heating Pad, covered? a light ? Bite the bullet and get a heating seedling mat ? Uhg, My closet spot is cold. Wife keeps it freezing in here LOL Like my ex wife's heart. hahahahaha
How cold? Below 68?
@@Mycophilia I'm going to get a temperature gauge tomorrow. Test my spot. Still waiting for my B+ to get here. I think I have everything else. 👍👍👍👍 Thank you so much.
Bing bong
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What about too hot of conditions?
Yes it can cause aborts, although it’ll have to be really hot.
TH-cam knows what you’re writing and saying through voice recognition or optical character recognition. Showing an image of a mushroom isn’t going to trigger anything more or less than what your voice was doing
I’m not stating species names. I made these names instead, so there is nothing to trigger. And I speak from experience. Showing fruits got my first channel banned.
And before you say it, TH-cam does not apply the rules fairly to all people. They are very inconsistent with how the rules apply to each individual. Some channels can get away with showing fruits at 100k subs for some time, whereas some will get taken down at 10 subs. Just yesterday in fact, a gourmet channel with 4K subs got taken down.