Alco FPA-2, Alco's forgotten passenger locomotive.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
  • TH-cam video links:
    start up of Alco fpa-4 and an Alco fpa-2u locomotive's. With bonus cab ride. On the NY&LE railroad
    Alex Brockway FLGK Railway
    • start up of Alco fpa-4...
    Pacific Southwest Railway Museum: 244 prime mover
    www.psrm.org/

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  • @12361870
    @12361870 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The Green Bay & Western Railroad’s first mainline diesels were ALCo FAs and from many reports crews did not like them but they did keep buying diesels from ALCo and ran ALCos up into when they were bought out by Wisconsin Central in the 90s repeatedly rebuilding them

  • @RMSTitanicWSL
    @RMSTitanicWSL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    A highly flawed video at best. E-units were light enough and easy enough on the rails that most railroads had no need to upgrade their lines. This was actually a selling point for diesels in general, and the E-units were no exception. Nor were they particularly inefficient compared to F-units, other than having idler axles that couldn't put tractive effort to the rail. For trains of a certain weight, a single E-unit was far superior in cost, fuel-economy, and overall efficiency to a pair of F-units. This was particularly true of the FTs which had no room in the A-unit for a steam boiler and made a 2-unit consist mandatory. A number of other railroads also lacked steam boilers in their later passenger A-units, notably AT&SF and B&M. I've seen many photos of small, short trains that could have been far more efficiently handled by a single E-unit being pulled by a pair of Fs. The FP7, FP9, and FPA-2 were for very small trains that could be handled by a single small unit, backup power that could also work freight trains, extra power for larger-than-normal trains, and service in mountainous territory unsuited for A1A-trucked locomotives. Santa Fe's mountainous territory was the real reason for their preference for Fs. They decided that a top speed of 109 mph was enough for their purposes, and that the extra 8 mph an E could offer wasn't justified in most cases. Their Es would find ample work on many secondary trains that were too small for two Fs. Many were ordered with freight gearing with top speeds as low as 65 mph. Several railroads ordered their PAs and Es with low-speed gearing, too, notably MEC and SSW. MP had 19 FPA-2s, but the 12 that were ordered as ABA sets may have been 6 FPA-2/FB-2/FPA-2 sets.

  • @trainglen22
    @trainglen22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    CN rebuilt 2 with 251 engines which were successful. They paved the way for the FPA-4.

    • @kingjames7273
      @kingjames7273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah but them canadians know how to build stuff and drag em outta the grave and give them new life😅😅😅

  • @royzug2847
    @royzug2847 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting to learn about ALCO engines. You don't generally hear much about them. Thanks for your videos.

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much!

  • @harryedwards2444
    @harryedwards2444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the ALCO information. A beautiful little Sister to the PA locomotive in my estimation. Thanks for your Video.

  • @nikospapageorgiou57
    @nikospapageorgiou57 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love ALcO, love this video!

  • @odenviking
    @odenviking 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    thanks for a intresting video on alco locos.
    👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

  • @ernestimken6969
    @ernestimken6969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Long Island RR had many FA-1s. They used them for commuter trains.

    • @1575murray
      @1575murray 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those FA-1s (and one EMD F7) had their prime movers and traction motors removed. They had HEP generators installed and operated as control cabs for the EMD GP38-2 locomotives that were used to push the train westward to its destination.

  • @GeorgeRuffner-iy7bm
    @GeorgeRuffner-iy7bm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the info. I was a little confused about these Alco locomotives.
    Thanks for sharing your data and providing a good video to cover your experiences.

  • @kleetus92
    @kleetus92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Around the 5:30 mark you mention the 6 axle diesels were too heavy for the lines they were traveling... yet 20 years prior, heavy Pacifics, Hudsons. and Berk's roamed the same rails without problems or requiring the track to be relayed.
    Math ain't mathing...

  • @dannyjones3840
    @dannyjones3840 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Brother- I absolutely love your videos. But why do they all sound like your talking while sitting on the pot constipated lol?

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree that the narration detracts from the overall videos. Perhaps some breathing exercises and/or public speaking coaching for the narrator would be helpful.

    • @fritzbasset8645
      @fritzbasset8645 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@evanstauffer4470 He does not have a good voice for narration. He should write the script and turn it over to a professional for the video.

  • @kelvintorrence5994
    @kelvintorrence5994 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I still love my heavy smoking and chugging alcos to this day.

  • @danielhemple8649
    @danielhemple8649 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It always comes down to the 244

  • @stuew6
    @stuew6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I own 12 FA-2 Ho models of Proto 2000 Locomotives.

  • @soldiersvejk2053
    @soldiersvejk2053 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If it is the same as Alco PA-2, then it is not forgotten since it is featured in Railroad Tycoon II!

  • @carlosalbertochaveznavatre8247
    @carlosalbertochaveznavatre8247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    what is the railroad that has those 2 engines in the last part of the video?

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The New York and Lake Erie.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @captainjohn787
    @captainjohn787 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A "passers" locomotive?

  • @GeorgeRuffner-iy7bm
    @GeorgeRuffner-iy7bm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh, and I did subscribe.
    🚂 🫡

    • @alcobufff
      @alcobufff  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks'!

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think that there should be a Policy, a policy that dictates that One or More units of a series of locomotive should always be Preserved. Why? For history sake of course.
    It’s sad that such models like the Alco DL-109 and others have No Surviving Members, and the only true way you can see them in action is on a Model Layout.

  • @locojohn6637
    @locojohn6637 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I thank you for putting this documentary together. Content is great! But, I would find a professional voice. Don’t use yours.

    • @fritzbasset8645
      @fritzbasset8645 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, the voice is awful.

  • @richardhetrick4770
    @richardhetrick4770 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Santa fe went with diesal because water supply out west in the desert. This proved long haul. The big boy is heavy. Head end power done away with steam generator. Head end power used less fuel overall

  • @rosemarycornwell1528
    @rosemarycornwell1528 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Good grief. Pre-read and rehearse your script a number of times before making the video. You stumble and pause too much.😊