leaving early... price is EVERYTHING... i prefer an metal drive.. over plastics... weight matters.. why i would go 14 footer.. because im tall and 250 ish... there are a cupl things i really like about the hobie setup... they are.. the rudder setup.. and the transducer setup.. old town seems to cater to me abit more.. but i like.... really like that collapsible transducer..
No regrets at the moment, I love the 360. I fish a lot of tight creeks, dock lines and the 360 really makes it easy. That being said, if I fished more open water I would definitely go with the 180. Much cheaper and much more durable. Thanks for watching!
Just looked at a PA14 and was concerned about the 360 reliability. Seller said they took care of all that? Evidently it doesn’t seem that way unless the very newest boats have been sorted out.
You might be better off going with the Old Town Auto Pilot with Spot-lock for under $4,500, no need to pedal, since the trolling motor does all the work.
The only thing is that the old town autopilot needs deeper water to work in than the Hobie does so if you are fishing smaller rivers that may be an issue
Better to go with Hobie (or Old Town pedal drive if you prefer) then add a bow mount trolling motor) that way you can pedal when required ( the battery or motor quit) or preferred ( you need to go shallow).
Owning a Hobie is like owning a BMW in my opinion. In so many ways its premium. Hull design is great, seat, thoughtful placement of rails/tool stagers, dual rudder control, they look great, materials used are usually very nice but I believe many things are over engineered. Parts fail and Hobie adds parts to parts and over complicates many things imo. That said I love my Outback. I also love my Jackson and Old Town. They all have pros and cons.
It appears that Hobie makes inferior quality products. I’d be very upset if I spent all that money on a top line kayak and encountered the kinds of problems you describe. I love what the Pro-angler Mirage Drive does and how it performs, but let’s have quality in the build...geeze..what a joke on the buyer of one of these high end products.❤ People put their lives in danger going off shore in one of these great designed but poorly constructed things...not for me, I want to live thank you.
I have mixed feelings about my Hobie to be honest. The vast majority of the time I love it and couldn’t imagine using another kayak but that small percent of time when there’s something wrong I definitely question whether or not it was over engineered. All those extra features give more room for something to go wrong. I stick to the very shallow water of Charlotte Harbor so I’m never that worried about a breakdown for safety reasons. It’s more just the inconvenience and expense. Thanks for watching.
@@fishingmilesaway Love the concept of the 360, but it seems like they still need to work out the kinks. The 180 has been better but it's also a simpler design and when it does go out, it is generally easier to work on. If they can get the 360 kinks out (and when it's working), the PA 360 is the best. Thanks for the review!
@johnlieu Completely agree! They do need to work out the kinks. When I was shopping for kayaks, I test drove and fell in love with the 360 and ignored the fact that it was the first version of the drive. I generally avoid buying the first version of anything for this exact reason. But now I'm hooked on the manoeuvrability, I don't think I could go back to the 180. I'm hoping the drive holds up a little better from here on out. Thanks for watching!
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leaving early... price is EVERYTHING... i prefer an metal drive.. over plastics... weight matters.. why i would go 14 footer.. because im tall and 250 ish... there are a cupl things i really like about the hobie setup... they are.. the rudder setup.. and the transducer setup.. old town seems to cater to me abit more.. but i like.... really like that collapsible transducer..
Thanks for the review! Just wondering if you regret not going with the 180 drive? The 180 seems to be bullet proof, with less maintenance.
No regrets at the moment, I love the 360. I fish a lot of tight creeks, dock lines and the 360 really makes it easy. That being said, if I fished more open water I would definitely go with the 180. Much cheaper and much more durable. Thanks for watching!
Just looked at a PA14 and was concerned about the 360 reliability. Seller said they took care of all that? Evidently it doesn’t seem that way unless the very newest boats have been sorted out.
You might be better off going with the Old Town Auto Pilot with Spot-lock for under $4,500, no need to pedal, since the trolling motor does all the work.
Most people buy a fishing kayak for physical activity... plus fishing.
The only thing is that the old town autopilot needs deeper water to work in than the Hobie does so if you are fishing smaller rivers that may be an issue
Better to go with Hobie (or Old Town pedal drive if you prefer) then add a bow mount trolling motor) that way you can pedal when required ( the battery or motor quit) or preferred ( you need to go shallow).
I think you skipped one more con: without the mirage drive it take a lot to move the kayak with paddles!
Very true.
Owning a Hobie is like owning a BMW in my opinion. In so many ways its premium. Hull design is great, seat, thoughtful placement of rails/tool stagers, dual rudder control, they look great, materials used are usually very nice but I believe many things are over engineered. Parts fail and Hobie adds parts to parts and over complicates many things imo. That said I love my Outback. I also love my Jackson and Old Town. They all have pros and cons.
Well said. I completely agree. Thanks for watching
It appears that Hobie makes inferior quality products. I’d be very upset if I spent all that money on a top line kayak and encountered the kinds of problems you describe. I love what the Pro-angler Mirage Drive does and how it performs, but let’s have quality in the build...geeze..what a joke on the buyer of one of these high end products.❤ People put their lives in danger going off shore in one of these great designed but poorly constructed things...not for me, I want to live thank you.
I have mixed feelings about my Hobie to be honest. The vast majority of the time I love it and couldn’t imagine using another kayak but that small percent of time when there’s something wrong I definitely question whether or not it was over engineered. All those extra features give more room for something to go wrong. I stick to the very shallow water of Charlotte Harbor so I’m never that worried about a breakdown for safety reasons. It’s more just the inconvenience and expense. Thanks for watching.
@@fishingmilesaway Love the concept of the 360, but it seems like they still need to work out the kinks. The 180 has been better but it's also a simpler design and when it does go out, it is generally easier to work on. If they can get the 360 kinks out (and when it's working), the PA 360 is the best. Thanks for the review!
@johnlieu Completely agree! They do need to work out the kinks. When I was shopping for kayaks, I test drove and fell in love with the 360 and ignored the fact that it was the first version of the drive. I generally avoid buying the first version of anything for this exact reason. But now I'm hooked on the manoeuvrability, I don't think I could go back to the 180. I'm hoping the drive holds up a little better from here on out. Thanks for watching!