@@Beartrap208yeah because who gets to decide what is Irish more than the existing citizenship rules that would allow people that aren’t ethnic Irish be Irish. And the people you exclude will quickly knock out loads of Irish people that would ordinarily be called Irish. So who gets to decide which Irish is the right Irish to protect? That’s right the Irish and the snake eats its own tail.
The irish are like any group of people. They have a heritage and ethnicity thats theres. If this host lived in new zealand he wouldn't in a millions years ask this question of the natives there.
Yeah because their neighbours are hundreds or thousands of kilometres away and the comparison is people that came from the other side of the world. Are you counting English Norse Germans Dutch Scot’s Welsh swedes Dane’s or any other migrations waves as Irish or not? Like any group Irish is made up of waves of people that came over and mixed in. You don’t get half of the accents in Ireland without migrations.
English Norse Germans Dutch Scots Welshe Swedes Danes are English Norse Germans Dutch Scots Welshe Swedes and Danes. Irish are Irish, American are American, so on so forth.
@@WalterWhitey Fantastic, that's everyone with an Irish parent and schooled here ticked and securely Irish - We're all in agreement then. Oh, and anyone who has earned citizenship, or even just taken the time to contribute to the community. Lovely, easy-peasy. Seems there's nothing to it, you can all chill out and look after your responsibilities now. Bills, pets etc.
Culturally Irish meaning being raised with purely Irish culture, instead of being raised/born else where and moving over or having other cultures in the mix through mixed relations. Being white is another factor as that's the dominant skin colour and has been for years - palest folks around, you're lucky to get a tan over here, skin adapts to environment so naturally we're a pale people with celtic roots (like the Scottish). Irish accent is necessary too (unless you're a travelled Irish person or other nuances come into play ~ having aspergers etc), there's nuance to everything but you'd be able to pick an actual pure Irish person out of a crowd and we all know it, it's true for each nationality, a gut feeling or animalistic sense/intuition, we're all just too afraid to admit it and if anyone disagrees then they're honestly too concerned with what people in this weird and obsessive society that's preoccupied with 'diversity' but also 'globalism' thinks of you, you've not got an original thought of your own or exercised the skill of critical thinking to evolve beyond what the system is feeding you. 💁♀️🧼📦
Stop victimizing yourself loser. If you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
Kieran you knew exactly what your doing here, you and the station are starting to get embarrassing and I for one find my self tuning into other channels more and more
@DBJ345 The problem with that is the majority of Muslims will not integrate and will never identify as irish even when they are born here,they will align to the country of their parents ie Syria,Palestine,Afghanistan to name but a few. Here lies the problem with these immigrants
What is he doing? Explain it because to me he is deconstructing a ridiculous list. Like come on... Irish DNA going back 1000 years? Whoever came up with that should really go find out what DNA is and how long it lasts!
@@DBJ345 Two Chinese move here they have a baby, they only speak English when needed, and Speak Chinese to each other. Is their Child Irish or Chinese? NO, the child is considered a citizen of the parents nationality. If both of your parents are not Chinese, you would not be considered a Chinese citizen, even if you were born in China.
What's wrong with being white with an Irish accent? He can't contain his glee, rubbing his hands together, 'dismantling' this texter. But what would his answer be? A passport? Here are a few Irish heroes: Wolfe tone, Rodger casement, big jim Larkin, James Connolly etc. What makes them Irish is that they cared about the country and her people. This is not a reasonable argument. Eireann abu!
Wolfe Tone's family came over as a Cromwellian soldier. James Larkin and James Connolly were born in the UK. And Sir Roger Casements family, as the name suggests, were British. More British people moved to Ireland than Irish people to Britain, which is why there are more people with British surnames in Ireland than Irish surnames in Britain. Simon Harris anyone? Jack Chambers? And so on and so on.
@@DecomposingPete fake news, my ma said we came straight out of the Gaelic soil, pure and unblemished by Vikings, Normans, English, Scottish, Huguenots, Palatine Germans or anywhere else for that matter. Like a mushroom or tree or something
The Ó Murchadha (warrior of the sea) were indigenous. Not sure what this prominent Gaelic clan would make of the anglicized and meaningless name Murphy. Same goes for all other anglicized Gaelic names.
@@gerardodwyer5908not all what it means, I'm Murphy , irish father, English mother, I hate both countries equally, But you'd have to consider me irish, I was raises in this culture with this cultures mannerism and behaviour and thought. Including humour,
An Irish person is someone who has Irish blood in them. Full stop. If someone has one parent who is Irish then that counts, too. Phil Lynott was an Irish man because his mother was Irish. A passport doesn't make anyone Irish. I'm sick of leftie idiots who are happy to give our land and culture away for woke brownie points.
agree at most you can adopt a culture noting wrong with that like, but clearly cant expect people to, compared to someone with a family history ties to the land like Do the people of the island not deserve to continue its recovery of culture revival and language, Sorta hard to pull off when then expected to adopt other cultures and make room, And when you think about it, Why Ireland a tiny island on the edge of Europe is taking in more people compared to other bigger past empire nations its insane.
Disingenuous actor, disengennuous framing. You know what you're trying to do here; muddying the waters of discourse and preventing discussion of genuine concerns.
@@elliegreen4738 if you understood DNA you’d know that the traits that you can inherit can and often do vary. On top of that what percentage Irish are you accepting? Also why can a Barrett or a Waters or a Walsh be considered Irish enough because clearly they’re descendants of immigrants too? Ignoring the difficulties of the system, our economy would suffer. Might be a few empty houses but there’s not half the builders in the country Irish I’d say most don’t have an interest in that hard graft. Same with a lot of low paying people intensive industries like hospitality or meat production. Who will we magic into those jobs? We’re still having huge shortages in staff in loads of sectors, plenty of work and not the people to do it all. How many people’s businesses and livelihoods are you expecting to close when they close the doors cause they can’t get the people to work?
@baeglaoich4418 you do know nationality doesn't dictate work ethic right? You're talking about not being able to peg people easily in ethnicity but then make a sweeping statement about Irish people's ability to graft??? You've been to every Irish person's home and have taken surveys on this yeah? Stop throwing sweeping stereotypes and statements around, it's absolute cognitive bias and lazy. Those sorts of points distract from the actual conversation too.
@@de8852 those industries have high turnovers. That’s due to the low wages and the difficult work setting. I’ve worked in some and it is clear they struggle to recruit staff to work in those conditions. To the extent they advertise overseas for staff. If there was the pool of people here, they would not require this? Do you think it’s an unfair assumption to make that a company recruiting personnel would only opt to recruit from overseas as a last resort due to the lack of options here? Across all sectors we have a shortage of people to fill roles and those people are needed to help develop and grow our economy. How would we support this if the faulty limited scope of irishness is applied?
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple. Also what does “woke” mean?
Didnt the Normans become "Hiberniores Hibernicis ipsis" or Níos Gaelaí ná na Gaeil féin, ie: "more Irish than the Irish themselves" I dont think many have a problem with people who adopt the culture and integrate. Its the the ones that dont or wont that you should discuss. Thats a genuine, fair and valid concern. You wont though. Plus there a massive housing shortage. People are struggling yet seeing 400k homes given away. Maybe we should put a levy on homes over 400k or a land valuation tax that scales up every 25k in value to pay for every new arrival. Well see how tolerant the chattering class are then.
@roryd1888 2023 Report on the Accounts of the Public Service published by the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) and subject of discussion and a recent Public Account Committee session ( 22nd of October). I'm surprised you know nothing about it as it was headline news. Oh and according to that report the cost per unit of modular housing delivered by DCEDIY worked out at €442k not 400k.
Short answer like? - When the population of Ireland Left it was from a Different time and in those cases what happened? - They were Forced into so called "indentured servitude" at times even in chains, other times sending kids out, Other times for very real reasons because of famine out of Ireland's control and brought on worse because of a neighbor. And when they did, where did they go? either to nations what started out as immigrants or our neighbor and given the close relationship with these two Islands again different.
I have always been uncomfortable with the slogans adapted by the emerging Nationalist parties. They simply don’t represent the problem of mass migration and readily attract accusations of racism and xenophobia. Of course populations in many countries have evolved throughout time as a result of invasion, conquest and migration. Ireland is no different in that regard. Peoples from across the globe have come to Ireland, settled, assimilated, contributed to society and become citizens. The problem the country is currently facing is the accelerated pace, increased volume and nature of migration over the past few years adding to already worsening problems of lack of affordable housing, health services, cost of living pressures and other infrastructure deficits. This is the essence of the problem but moreover the fact the government seems to be not only oblivious to this but thinks its position is virtuous and morally justifiable.
100% but u got rid of a lot more than 30% when u mentioned full time irish speakers. Even if u take the maximum number from 2022 census of 80,000 then u had arrived at 1.6% of the population left 🤣🤣
@@DecomposingPete”my Norse ancestors didn’t move to France and then England and then wales and then Ireland to be treated as second class citizens in this I mean our land!”
Im pretty Fenius Farsaidh, who was a scythian himself, married an eqyptian woman. He was the ancestor of the Irish. So I guess there has been foreign blood
I _thiink_ the point Kieran's trying to make is that non-Irish people have migrated to Ireland for several hundred years (and likewise Irish people have migrated away e.g. to USA, Canada etc) and the island's still OK. The culture and the people are still there, and that the current mood is one of panic. Going further, the current panic - in his opinion - is that the current migrants aren't white, the names are less familiar to us all. Personally, I can see why people are concerned (the whole world is a mess at the moment) but it doesn't help that some very rich and influential people (and Putin) are sh^t-stirring to the max, such that anything vaguely unfamiliar is called 'woke' and people are scared of it.
@ What were the blatant truths of the incident in Roscommon? Why do globalists want to hide the truth? The Irish government’s own census projections show that ethnic Irish children will be a minority in their own homeland in a matter of decades. That alone is enough to bring down the current government.
@@User-r5g5fthat’s just flat out wrong, we’ve had multiple large migratory waves with our now largest cities and towns being bastions for foreigners and often dominated by them. We literally have Viking not Gaelic bus tours of Dublin, the churches are Norman, the terraces are Georgian and the monuments are Victorian. The idea that this level of migration is new when we’ve had multiple large migratory waves, at least this one is not large scale war, famine and disease
@@beaglaoich4418 Again, there has NEVER been a migratory wave as large. It’s reflected in the DNA of the Irish, the Normans the Vikings the English etc. never changed the makeup of the Irish genome to any significant degree.
The heros of establishing Irish independence would be ashamed of the isolationist attitudes in these comments. Read a book people. Ireland was established to be a beacon of hope and welcoming to those in need!
You need to read the books. Plenty of Irish men bled and died for an alot more conservative Ireland than you would be happy with. They would be 1000 times more comfortable in 1950's Ireland and most would have preferred to be using the Irish language primarily as well.
Kieran might have a look at Travellers ...a seperate , cultural group ...it might give him a few pointers ...but then presumably a traveller could be English. Sir Henry Wilson considered himself Irish as does Sir James Galway, If one is born here you are generally considered Irish or take out citizenship...but then I suppose there are Travellers who are British subjects. He also might interrogate the modern descriptions of gender variation in that you can, woke belief would say assume a gender different from what one was called at birth and demand to be treated as such.
Facile argument to reduce national identity to skin colour ie. a question of being "white". Kieran should stop regurgitating the nonsense he is spoon-fed and ask himself why an Ulster loyalist who has lived in Ireland for centuries never wanted to integrate with the majority of the people and still despises Irish identity
@@DBJ345 Irish history proves you wrong: when a minority community don't identify with the majority culture and religious differences mean families don't intermarry, people don't mix and enclaves are created. Add in firebrand clerics in the religious minority who stoke hatred from their pulpits to fuel their own rise to prominence within their religious community eg. Rev. Thomas Drew, Rev. Hugh Hanna, Rev. Ian Paisley, etc. and the result will not be a peaceful harmonious society for anyone
@DBJ345 wouldn't it be nice and simple if leaders of religious minorities that established themselves in Ireland shared your views re. Irish values eg. Rev. Ian Paisley, Rev. Hugh Hanna, Rev. Thomas Drew.. or a new religious 'community' that is no keener on adapting to Irish values than they were
@@DBJ345 that's great, thanks for simplifying the issue for us - you should explain that to the Social Democrats because they are under the illusion that one group of Irish are privileged and another group of Irish are entitled to special minority status that the rest are excluded from
This "news" station is just ridiculous. If you grew up here or have strong irish heritage even if you're born abroad you're Irish. If you came from Pakistan and the government tell us you're Irish, you're not
Probably not necessary to address that listener's racist and xenophobic views to that extent, but I imagine Kieran Cuddihy was making a wider point to other listeners who hold similarly hostile views.
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This is just a “got ya” talking point - he knows exactly what the texter meant
He literally 'got' them though. It was the silliest text imaginable, we live on an Island that got completely shat on by the Normans like
yes he “got” him. But he is using the dumb texter message to make everyone out to be racist that wants to prioritise Irish citizens first
@@Beartrap208yeah because who gets to decide what is Irish more than the existing citizenship rules that would allow people that aren’t ethnic Irish be Irish.
And the people you exclude will quickly knock out loads of Irish people that would ordinarily be called Irish.
So who gets to decide which Irish is the right Irish to protect? That’s right the Irish and the snake eats its own tail.
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
@@Beartrap208lmao, he knows what he’s saying. He only means “ethically Irish” people
The irish are like any group of people. They have a heritage and ethnicity thats theres. If this host lived in new zealand he wouldn't in a millions years ask this question of the natives there.
Yeah because their neighbours are hundreds or thousands of kilometres away and the comparison is people that came from the other side of the world.
Are you counting English Norse Germans Dutch Scot’s Welsh swedes Dane’s or any other migrations waves as Irish or not?
Like any group Irish is made up of waves of people that came over and mixed in. You don’t get half of the accents in Ireland without migrations.
English Norse Germans Dutch Scots Welshe Swedes Danes are English Norse Germans Dutch Scots Welshe Swedes and Danes. Irish are Irish, American are American, so on so forth.
@@de8852 those groups have migrated to Ireland over time, should their descendants be considered Irish?
Yes no and why
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
This fool must be on Martins team running down d irish next he'll be telling us we're too white
You have to have Irish blood in you and be culturally Irish to be considered Irish in my book.
@@WalterWhitey Fantastic, that's everyone with an Irish parent and schooled here ticked and securely Irish - We're all in agreement then. Oh, and anyone who has earned citizenship, or even just taken the time to contribute to the community. Lovely, easy-peasy. Seems there's nothing to it, you can all chill out and look after your responsibilities now. Bills, pets etc.
Culturally Irish meaning being raised with purely Irish culture, instead of being raised/born else where and moving over or having other cultures in the mix through mixed relations. Being white is another factor as that's the dominant skin colour and has been for years - palest folks around, you're lucky to get a tan over here, skin adapts to environment so naturally we're a pale people with celtic roots (like the Scottish). Irish accent is necessary too (unless you're a travelled Irish person or other nuances come into play ~ having aspergers etc), there's nuance to everything but you'd be able to pick an actual pure Irish person out of a crowd and we all know it, it's true for each nationality, a gut feeling or animalistic sense/intuition, we're all just too afraid to admit it and if anyone disagrees then they're honestly too concerned with what people in this weird and obsessive society that's preoccupied with 'diversity' but also 'globalism' thinks of you, you've not got an original thought of your own or exercised the skill of critical thinking to evolve beyond what the system is feeding you. 💁♀️🧼📦
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
What is "Irish blood"? I mean I don't see it on any medical blood type lists!
@DBJ345 no your not, Blood and Soil
There's Irish and Irish by paper and there's a difference.
Ireland demand a referendum on immigration.
The Irish are already feeling strangers in our own Country ,
Sorry Gill - Anglo-Norman. Not even close.
@@DecomposingPete read my above comment. When it comes to surnames people adopted them. It's a shared blood that makes a people
Literally took a bus home this evening and i was the only Irish person on it??
Stop victimizing yourself loser. If you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
@@DBJ345 disagree respectfully 😄
Kieran you knew exactly what your doing here, you and the station are starting to get embarrassing and I for one find my self tuning into other channels more and more
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
@DBJ345 The problem with that is the majority of Muslims will not integrate and will never identify as irish even when they are born here,they will align to the country of their parents ie Syria,Palestine,Afghanistan to name but a few. Here lies the problem with these immigrants
What is he doing? Explain it because to me he is deconstructing a ridiculous list. Like come on... Irish DNA going back 1000 years? Whoever came up with that should really go find out what DNA is and how long it lasts!
@@DBJ345 Two Chinese move here they have a baby, they only speak English when needed, and Speak Chinese to each other. Is their Child Irish or Chinese? NO, the child is considered a citizen of the parents nationality. If both of your parents are not Chinese, you would not be considered a Chinese citizen, even if you were born in China.
@@xer0bite both. They’d be Chinese Irish
What a bell end
If you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
Newstalk woke channel of the year Awards ceremony.
@@dazza9859 newstalk to be avoided
Boycott @@JohnMc1722
Such a straw man argument. Cuddihy is about as Irish as a Brit.
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
The mass invasion of ireland in recent times is an absolute tragedy. He is just an apologist for the replacement of irish people from this land.
aye, coz the irish never went to another country and replaced the indigineous people there, did we?
What's wrong with being white with an Irish accent? He can't contain his glee, rubbing his hands together, 'dismantling' this texter. But what would his answer be? A passport? Here are a few Irish heroes: Wolfe tone, Rodger casement, big jim Larkin, James Connolly etc. What makes them Irish is that they cared about the country and her people. This is not a reasonable argument. Eireann abu!
Wolfe Tone's family came over as a Cromwellian soldier. James Larkin and James Connolly were born in the UK. And Sir Roger Casements family, as the name suggests, were British.
More British people moved to Ireland than Irish people to Britain, which is why there are more people with British surnames in Ireland than Irish surnames in Britain.
Simon Harris anyone? Jack Chambers? And so on and so on.
Easy for him to say when he already has his house. We are going to be competing with these migrants for housing.
Go home to Normandy and maybe we’d have a chance, Ireland for the Gaels
@@beaglaoich4418 There are no Gaels, literally everyone you know has mixed ancestry.
@@DecomposingPete fake news, my ma said we came straight out of the Gaelic soil, pure and unblemished by Vikings, Normans, English, Scottish, Huguenots, Palatine Germans or anywhere else for that matter.
Like a mushroom or tree or something
@@DecomposingPete you seem to be replying on this topic a lot - how about you give your explanation of what being Irish is
@@beaglaoich4418 I think the only person in the world that is 100% Irish is Conan O'Brien 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That texter is 100% right
@@copevortex He was literally proven completely wrong.
Im a Murphy, indigenous Irish , this woke presenter needs a wake up call , wokeness is going down ! Get used to it newstalk...
The Ó Murchadha (warrior of the sea) were indigenous. Not sure what this prominent Gaelic clan would make of the anglicized and meaningless name Murphy. Same goes for all other anglicized Gaelic names.
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
@@DBJ345 You're "that simple".
@@gerardodwyer5908not all what it means,
I'm Murphy ,
irish father,
English mother,
I hate both countries equally,
But you'd have to consider me irish, I was raises in this culture with this cultures mannerism and behaviour and thought. Including humour,
Please everybody boycott Newstalk now.
Going to watch the Irish dancing and listen to the Irish music down in the Irish pub can be said in any country
If a cat is born is in a kennel it doesnt make it a dog.
An Irish person is someone who has Irish blood in them. Full stop.
If someone has one parent who is Irish then that counts, too. Phil Lynott was an Irish man because his mother was Irish.
A passport doesn't make anyone Irish.
I'm sick of leftie idiots who are happy to give our land and culture away for woke brownie points.
They're doing it for MONEY.
agree at most you can adopt a culture noting wrong with that like, but clearly cant expect people to, compared to someone with a family history ties to the land like Do the people of the island not deserve to continue its recovery of culture revival and language, Sorta hard to pull off when then expected to adopt other cultures and make room, And when you think about it, Why Ireland a tiny island on the edge of Europe is taking in more people compared to other bigger past empire nations its insane.
Texter is ethno-fascist. 1939 all over again.
You want to be Irish, then you need to write a 1000-word essay titled:' Barry's versus Lyon's; why the one I drink is the best'.
Disingenuous actor, disengennuous framing. You know what you're trying to do here; muddying the waters of discourse and preventing discussion of genuine concerns.
Then unmuddy them and describe what makes an Irish person Irish.
@@beaglaoich4418 Blood because being Irish is an Ethnicity and it's in our DNA so it's a scientific fact.
@@elliegreen4738 if you understood DNA you’d know that the traits that you can inherit can and often do vary.
On top of that what percentage Irish are you accepting?
Also why can a Barrett or a Waters or a Walsh be considered Irish enough because clearly they’re descendants of immigrants too?
Ignoring the difficulties of the system, our economy would suffer. Might be a few empty houses but there’s not half the builders in the country Irish I’d say most don’t have an interest in that hard graft. Same with a lot of low paying people intensive industries like hospitality or meat production. Who will we magic into those jobs?
We’re still having huge shortages in staff in loads of sectors, plenty of work and not the people to do it all. How many people’s businesses and livelihoods are you expecting to close when they close the doors cause they can’t get the people to work?
@baeglaoich4418 you do know nationality doesn't dictate work ethic right? You're talking about not being able to peg people easily in ethnicity but then make a sweeping statement about Irish people's ability to graft??? You've been to every Irish person's home and have taken surveys on this yeah? Stop throwing sweeping stereotypes and statements around, it's absolute cognitive bias and lazy. Those sorts of points distract from the actual conversation too.
@@de8852 those industries have high turnovers. That’s due to the low wages and the difficult work setting. I’ve worked in some and it is clear they struggle to recruit staff to work in those conditions.
To the extent they advertise overseas for staff. If there was the pool of people here, they would not require this? Do you think it’s an unfair assumption to make that a company recruiting personnel would only opt to recruit from overseas as a last resort due to the lack of options here?
Across all sectors we have a shortage of people to fill roles and those people are needed to help develop and grow our economy. How would we support this if the faulty limited scope of irishness is applied?
Cuddles... We the vast majority know exactly what you and your channel are about..
3 people and some chickens 😂😂
He'd be a chicken because he sure isn't Irish!!
Woke nonsense.
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple. Also what does “woke” mean?
Newstalk fool is this fool the best newstalk total
If an African man married an Irish woman and they have a child here is that child Irish ?
How many generations of grandparents being born in Ireland do you have to go back to be Irish?
Vote Irish PATRIOT'S No 1
Nah, too many Normans, not Irish enough.
Nah. I have zero intention of voting for Nazis who would turn us into a pariah state and cripple our economy
Didnt the Normans become "Hiberniores Hibernicis ipsis" or Níos Gaelaí ná na Gaeil féin, ie: "more Irish than the Irish themselves" I dont think many have a problem with people who adopt the culture and integrate. Its the the ones that dont or wont that you should discuss. Thats a genuine, fair and valid concern.
You wont though.
Plus there a massive housing shortage. People are struggling yet seeing 400k homes given away.
Maybe we should put a levy on homes over 400k or a land valuation tax that scales up every 25k in value to pay for every new arrival. Well see how tolerant the chattering class are then.
@yermanoffthetelly someone with a brain finally haha, spot on!!!
When was a 400k home given away? And don’t come back and say “I saw someone on x said it”.
@roryd1888 2023 Report on the Accounts of the Public Service published by the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) and subject of discussion and a recent Public Account Committee session ( 22nd of October). I'm surprised you know nothing about it as it was headline news.
Oh and according to that report the cost per unit of modular housing delivered by DCEDIY worked out at €442k not 400k.
The Norman's were a tiny minority in tte gene pool, anyone who doesn't have one ancestor in the 1901 census then they are not Irish
So no full families of Irish people emigrated during the famine then? Imbecile.
He loves the sound of his own voice...get off your soapbox cuddihy..its a talkshow stop lecturing people..
People talk about immigration but what about the millions of Irish overseas who are immigrants? What’s the difference?
Short answer like? - When the population of Ireland Left it was from a Different time and in those cases what happened? - They were Forced into so called "indentured servitude" at times even in chains, other times sending kids out, Other times for very real reasons because of famine out of Ireland's control and brought on worse because of a neighbor. And when they did, where did they go? either to nations what started out as immigrants or our neighbor and given the close relationship with these two Islands again different.
Gaslighting the Irish people once again. Great job Newstalk.
I have always been uncomfortable with the slogans adapted by the emerging Nationalist parties. They simply don’t represent the problem of mass migration and readily attract accusations of racism and xenophobia. Of course populations in many countries have evolved throughout time as a result of invasion, conquest and migration. Ireland is no different in that regard. Peoples from across the globe have come to Ireland, settled, assimilated, contributed to society and become citizens. The problem the country is currently facing is the accelerated pace, increased volume and nature of migration over the past few years adding to already worsening problems of lack of affordable housing, health services, cost of living pressures and other infrastructure deficits. This is the essence of the problem but moreover the fact the government seems to be not only oblivious to this but thinks its position is virtuous and morally justifiable.
Thank the lord for Trump. 🙄
100% but u got rid of a lot more than 30% when u mentioned full time irish speakers. Even if u take the maximum number from 2022 census of 80,000 then u had arrived at 1.6% of the population left 🤣🤣
And that's bad.
Quare
The lads having conniption fits in the comments - their ancestors are spinning in their graves in the north of France 😂
@@DecomposingPete”my Norse ancestors didn’t move to France and then England and then wales and then Ireland to be treated as second class citizens in this I mean our land!”
You must not have the problems down in Kilkenny that we have up here in Dublin
Im pretty Fenius Farsaidh, who was a scythian himself, married an eqyptian woman. He was the ancestor of the Irish. So I guess there has been foreign blood
I _thiink_ the point Kieran's trying to make is that non-Irish people have migrated to Ireland for several hundred years (and likewise Irish people have migrated away e.g. to USA, Canada etc) and the island's still OK. The culture and the people are still there, and that the current mood is one of panic.
Going further, the current panic - in his opinion - is that the current migrants aren't white, the names are less familiar to us all. Personally, I can see why people are concerned (the whole world is a mess at the moment) but it doesn't help that some very rich and influential people (and Putin) are sh^t-stirring to the max, such that anything vaguely unfamiliar is called 'woke' and people are scared of it.
There’s never been a rate of migration into Ireland that matches what has happened over the last 20 years.
@ What were the blatant truths of the incident in Roscommon? Why do globalists want to hide the truth? The Irish government’s own census projections show that ethnic Irish children will be a minority in their own homeland in a matter of decades. That alone is enough to bring down the current government.
@@User-r5g5fthat’s just flat out wrong, we’ve had multiple large migratory waves with our now largest cities and towns being bastions for foreigners and often dominated by them.
We literally have Viking not Gaelic bus tours of Dublin, the churches are Norman, the terraces are Georgian and the monuments are Victorian.
The idea that this level of migration is new when we’ve had multiple large migratory waves, at least this one is not large scale war, famine and disease
Give the mood another 20 years. Wonder what it be like then.
@@beaglaoich4418 Again, there has NEVER been a migratory wave as large. It’s reflected in the DNA of the Irish, the Normans the Vikings the English etc. never changed the makeup of the Irish genome to any significant degree.
The heros of establishing Irish independence would be ashamed of the isolationist attitudes in these comments. Read a book people. Ireland was established to be a beacon of hope and welcoming to those in need!
@briankeenan5769 they're not in need they're grifters...wake up will ya?
@briankeenan Sounds as though you're in need of a wake up call or perhaps in need of shekels and getting paid to write senseless comments on TH-cam.
You need to read the books. Plenty of Irish men bled and died for an alot more conservative Ireland than you would be happy with. They would be 1000 times more comfortable in 1950's Ireland and most would have preferred to be using the Irish language primarily as well.
@@CuchulainAD If you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
@@DBJ345so you don't believe in the Irish constitution or the will of the Irish people?
Kieran might have a look at Travellers ...a seperate , cultural group ...it might give him a few pointers ...but then presumably a traveller could be English. Sir Henry Wilson considered himself Irish as does Sir James Galway, If one is born here you are generally considered Irish or take out citizenship...but then I suppose there are Travellers who are British subjects. He also might interrogate the modern descriptions of gender variation in that you can, woke belief would say assume a gender different from what one was called at birth and demand to be treated as such.
Facile argument to reduce national identity to skin colour ie. a question of being "white". Kieran should stop regurgitating the nonsense he is spoon-fed and ask himself why an Ulster loyalist who has lived in Ireland for centuries never wanted to integrate with the majority of the people and still despises Irish identity
Nah, if you’re born here or if you lived here since you were a child, grew up with our culture, you’re Irish. It’s that simple
@@DBJ345 Irish history proves you wrong: when a minority community don't identify with the majority culture and religious differences mean families don't intermarry, people don't mix and enclaves are created. Add in firebrand clerics in the religious minority who stoke hatred from their pulpits to fuel their own rise to prominence within their religious community eg. Rev. Thomas Drew, Rev. Hugh Hanna, Rev. Ian Paisley, etc. and the result will not be a peaceful harmonious society for anyone
@DBJ345 wouldn't it be nice and simple if leaders of religious minorities that established themselves in Ireland shared your views re. Irish values eg. Rev. Ian Paisley, Rev. Hugh Hanna, Rev. Thomas Drew.. or a new religious 'community' that is no keener on adapting to Irish values than they were
@@DBJ345 that's great, thanks for simplifying the issue for us - you should explain that to the Social Democrats because they are under the illusion that one group of Irish are privileged and another group of Irish are entitled to special minority status that the rest are excluded from
@@sb8163 you’re making up things to get mad about
This "news" station is just ridiculous. If you grew up here or have strong irish heritage even if you're born abroad you're Irish. If you came from Pakistan and the government tell us you're Irish, you're not
To be truly irish. Ya need a second hand A6, a wife called saoirse or sinead, a gym membership and an unplayable mortgage.
So there is no such thing as natives anymore
Vote Gerry hutch
Cieran, the most WOKE person on radio. Ps Cirean in predictive text is "Migrant"
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There are TikTok influencers shaking their arses while rollerblading with more followers than this Woke News Channel.
Yep. White and an Irish accent. Although,I think it's more white.
Muslims out
Classic 😂
Burke isn't an Irish name?
Probably not necessary to address that listener's racist and xenophobic views to that extent, but I imagine Kieran Cuddihy was making a wider point to other listeners who hold similarly hostile views.
I am a Mccarthy am I irish to you.
We're too white to be Irish according to the sell-out traitors in the msm. Their treachery is despicable.
Wat a whanka