Please discuss more questions like this (where there are no obvious answers) in the future! It's very interesting to listen to and to follow your arguments :)
Star Trek has covered this all btw. The question of time paradox is key. Is Hitler the key, or will time inexorably bend toward war? Also, Stalin killed 30M. In the US, killing Trump is a great question. Would there have been a Jan 6 and constitutional crisis without him?
Hitler was not just anti Semitic he murdered 9 million others homosexuals, the disabled, gypsies etc in his camps, all were part of the final solution. You're also forgetting pol pot and Vietnamese killing fields truly horrific.
Hahaha mad I brought up a load of the same points as Barty on the Facebook Post without watching the video before I get done for plagiarism I love these kinda debates
Personally I disagree with you. As much as I would love to kill Hitler and prevent all those horrible thing that he did, I think it is inevitable that someone, or someones, that would act in the same way. It might not be the same person, at the same time period, but I believe many things that he did would eventually be done by someone else. In term of utilitarianism, frankly, I believe Hitler's actions does have a kind of "positive" outcome. That is to serve as a lesson to the world on: dealing with post-war issues wisely; the horrors of a global conflict; the horrors of a holocaust. It is excatly due to the large scale of the conflict that allows the world to really look at the problem and try to prevent them. If, let say, there is a lesser evil, the conflict might not be as large scale and might not get as much international awareness as it did. Remember, the US maintained a very isolationist attitude until the war starts to affect them. If it didn't happen, as a superpower, the US won't get involve that much and therefore the lesson won't be learnt (at least not in such as large scale as it was). Which, in this case, another conflict might re-appear. Furthermore, as technology evolves, if, the war only started after the invention of a dangerous weapon, such as the atomic bomb, it might cause even more damage then it did. Therefore, when killing and not killing Hitler, the outcome would be the same or similar, I believe it would be a better idea not to, simply to prevent any risk of things getting worse, or any human mistakes while killing Hitler. PS: I'm proud of being the third commentor.
There are no positive outcomes to slaughtering 6 million Jews, plus Roma, homosexuals, religious minorities, political prisoners and Slavs (especially Russians and Poles). The many genocides which have occurred around the world since WW2 show that humanity has learned absolutely nothing
"but maybe conditions in germany, say were particulary right for that sort of thing" - I would argue conditions in Germany were FAR RIGHT after that :D
'tell me about the time paradoxes, oli' -the most oxford dirty talk ever
Please discuss more questions like this (where there are no obvious answers) in the future! It's very interesting to listen to and to follow your arguments :)
What can I call Bartholomew Hamish Montgomery?
But you can call him Barty!
These are the really hard-hitting questions
Great discussion. There was a genocide in Cambodia under Pol Pot which was a bit more recent unfortunately
This was such an interesting watch! Loved it x
I love this interview tips will definitely employ them IF I get an interview!! And love that they're applicable to all subjects
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Please do another version for STEM, where the one answering is Barty
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. Especially with the last week’s news from the Middle East. Keep the Barty / Oli dialogue coming.
Star Trek has covered this all btw. The question of time paradox is key. Is Hitler the key, or will time inexorably bend toward war? Also, Stalin killed 30M. In the US, killing Trump is a great question. Would there have been a Jan 6 and constitutional crisis without him?
This is supposedly a oxford law student? and he's never read on the "Holodomor" once a great institution gone to complete shit 6:20
We need more videos with Barty.
this needs more views
Hitler was not just anti Semitic he murdered 9 million others homosexuals, the disabled, gypsies etc in his camps, all were part of the final solution. You're also forgetting pol pot and Vietnamese killing fields truly horrific.
Hahaha mad I brought up a load of the same points as Barty on the Facebook Post without watching the video before I get done for plagiarism I love these kinda debates
Personally I disagree with you. As much as I would love to kill Hitler and prevent all those horrible thing that he did, I think it is inevitable that someone, or someones, that would act in the same way. It might not be the same person, at the same time period, but I believe many things that he did would eventually be done by someone else.
In term of utilitarianism, frankly, I believe Hitler's actions does have a kind of "positive" outcome. That is to serve as a lesson to the world on: dealing with post-war issues wisely; the horrors of a global conflict; the horrors of a holocaust. It is excatly due to the large scale of the conflict that allows the world to really look at the problem and try to prevent them. If, let say, there is a lesser evil, the conflict might not be as large scale and might not get as much international awareness as it did. Remember, the US maintained a very isolationist attitude until the war starts to affect them. If it didn't happen, as a superpower, the US won't get involve that much and therefore the lesson won't be learnt (at least not in such as large scale as it was). Which, in this case, another conflict might re-appear.
Furthermore, as technology evolves, if, the war only started after the invention of a dangerous weapon, such as the atomic bomb, it might cause even more damage then it did. Therefore, when killing and not killing Hitler, the outcome would be the same or similar, I believe it would be a better idea not to, simply to prevent any risk of things getting worse, or any human mistakes while killing Hitler.
PS: I'm proud of being the third commentor.
There are no positive outcomes to slaughtering 6 million Jews, plus Roma, homosexuals, religious minorities, political prisoners and Slavs (especially Russians and Poles). The many genocides which have occurred around the world since WW2 show that humanity has learned absolutely nothing
barty's bicep I love him so much
Ah damn you need to watch Mike Tyson’s animated show on killing baby hitler
We’ll check it out!
"but maybe conditions in germany, say were particulary right for that sort of thing" - I would argue conditions in Germany were FAR RIGHT after that :D