LEARN To FLY 3D RC Planes (E-flite Extra 300 1.3m 3D Flying Tutorial)
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0:00 Introduction
1:07 Takeoff \ Stall Loop \ Harrier \ Hovering
2:00 Blenders \ Flat Spins
3:27 High Alpha Knife Edge \ Death Slide \ Crankshaft
4:00 Elevator \ Harrier \ Hovering
4:26 High Energy Loops \ Wall \ Tumbling
5:32 High Alpha Knife Edge \ Loop \ Harrier Landing
6:10 Drifting \ Preflight
6:44 Knife Edge Takeoff \ Wall \ Torque Rolling
7:34 Learning Inverted Harrier On Camera
8:34 Inverted Wall \ Harrier \ Hovering
9:08 Waterfall \ Inverted Harrier Control \ Low Level Inverted Harrier
10:21 Harrier \ Hovering
10:58 Pirouette \ Inverted Harrier \ Tail Touch \ Snap Roll
11:36 Harrier Landing \ Post-flight \ Preflight
12:50 Overcome Anxiety to Become a Better Pilot
14:10 Knife Edge Takeoff \ Wall \ Waterfall \ Inverted Harrier
14:53 Harrier \ Hovering \ High Alpha Knife Edge
15:34 Wall \ Waterfall
16:04 Inverted Harrier Oval
16:47 Reverse Rolls \ Harrier \ Torque Rolling
17:47 Elevator \ Harrier \ Inverted Harrier
18:34 Hovering \ Accelerated Torque Roll
19:00 High Speed Knife Edge \ Crankshaft \ Inverted Elevator
19:50 Flipped Grass Landing \ Takeoff \ Redemption
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Very impressive flying. I bought one five years ago and use it for F3A style flying. When they first came out everybody on the forums raved about its flight performance but complained of woeful flight times. I've flown gentle F3A with mine treating the throttle with care and barely get four minutes on a 3700mah. I have a Splendor and an Olympus, both only slightly bigger than this extra and they run on 6s.
It took me all of 6 minutes watching this to pause the video and order one of these bad boys 😂
Happy to hear it!
Can declare a few weeks on, its a lovely plane to fly
This vid popped up in my feed tonight...I'm surprised it took this long. Back into the hobby over the last two years, after an abortive start nearly 30 years ago. Any way, saw the teaser shot (Hey, that's my current sweetheart but challenging plane...click!). I thought I might find help on how to fly her a little better. I did not expect to get a backdoor lesson on how to train my mind to live my life better.
I'm looking forward, now more than usual, to the next time I get to run through a couple of batteries with her. And I thank you for that little push. But thank you even more for the thoughts you shared that transcend flying. You truly helped a person today.
So happy to hear that my man. Here's hoping you'll find Friday's 3D tutorial better than this one! ❤️
I love how well you have progressed.
I have 2 3d planes, I have 1.1m eflight Suhoi, that is very similar to this build, its a little heavy for sure and pretty narrow fuse. However, I took your encouraging words and used them to fly this little beast for the first time today, as a 3d plane.
I got decent on the sim, but no sim is the same as real life, that's for sure.
It's all about practice and getting comfortable with being uncomfortable. You learn the most when you're not flying in your comfort zone. Keep at it!
@Two Brothers Radio Control very true 👍🏻
Thanks, you are an inspirational person (might make u chuckle). I am serious.
Year later and I'm watching this again because I'm getting one and you are a freakin mad man bro lol omg you spank the tish outta this plane lol so freakin awesome 🤌🏼👍🏼
I can only imagine how much better you are now man lol because you are the MAN!!!!!
Cheers, thanks!
I had a few really nice flights with mine. But most of the time while trying to hover or harrier there was so much wing rock that it wasn't fun. I tried changing the ailerons to "harrier" flaps from your set up video but it still seems to act like a small plane trying to do big plane stuff (but not very well) I'll admit that most of my problem was probably my lack of skill, but ultimately I think bigger is better. I bought my friends 95" Extra 330-E 3DHS (built and never flown) for such an awesome price that I gave him my E-Flight extra. It's not like he actually wanted it, but he wasn't going to turn down a free plane. 😄
We'll fly them both as soon as we can get to the field on a nice day at the same time. I expect he'll be able to make it do things that I couldn't.
"I have been observing your progress over the past year, especially in your newer videos such as the inverted high Alpha F-22 flying. It's quite impressive! Personally, I find that I can fly this model well on the simulator, but it's a different story in the field."
Great flying as always. I’m learning 3d myself and love the 300. I think you’re spot on about the fear thing, and it’s something I’ve been trying to train myself on. I can do most of the maneuvers, but I have trouble doing them low and close, and I know it’s all in my head. I have found that practicing with a profile foamy in the yard helps a lot to get over the fear.
Once you push through the fear response and normalize it, you'll begin to explore new boundaries of your skills and can start pushing yourself to really improve.
Good video! Appreciate the way you are showing the different aerobatics!
Loved your insightful video. Thanks for sharing. Also, Props to camera operator!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I recently found an E-Flight Sukhoi su-29 at a hobby shop. going to learn on that. Nice little plane. Thanks for the tutorial.
Anytime man. I've got more of this type of content coming up soon.
Awesome flying. Thanks Jon
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome Video Thank You Apriciate it
Favorite plane in my fleet and this video encourages me to try new stuff. Thanks!!!
Glad to hear it!
Great flying man on my third plane love the info u give. And seeing the sticks helps alote thanks
Glad to help!
Enjoying your flight and stick movements.
Thanks Randy! Unfortunately TH-cam's premiere lag struck again so a lot of people dropped.
@@TwoBrosRC that’s too bad. Your show was well done and informative.
thank you for the awesome motivation :
Nice tutorial. Love the stick view, that's how I learned a lot watching Joe Smith videos.
Honestly as soon as you talked about the fear and nerve response...I just was talking to my dad about this. He doesn't understand how I can hover within feet of myself and not panic. You have to get over it and the only way is to do it. What was that Patrick Swayze quote in point break?... "hesitation creates fear".
Going out tomorrow for the 3rd day out and a couple more packs. 5 flights total so far. Next week my Extreme Flight Extra 300 v1 should be back in operation. Didn't expect this plane to fly so well...excuse me, do 3d so well. Honestly, I wanted to hate it but it's turned out to be a bit of a gem.
It really is a great little model once you get it tuned so it doesn't wing rock as easily or become super unstable in hovers. Sometimes it won't enter a hover without a lot of throttle (you can see that toward the end as I'm struggling to get it out of knife edge harrier) but it generally flies really well overall. Glad to hear we're on the same page with regard to the fear response. You just have to push through it. If you don't, you won't improve - you'll always be stuck at the level you were when you backed off from overcoming that fear.
Love your intro by the way!
Thanks man! I've been refining it for a while now. Pretty happy with how it turned out.
Cool video, nice flying, nice plane. Its most interesting, to me, to watch different self training philosophies and mindsets. I’m not judging because everyone has their own approach and I used to take your approach of pushing myself. Now I have a zero crash policy, which includes flying the sim. Meaning, I always stay inside, and then expand my comfort zone only through proficiency leading to boredom.
It is really more important with big aerobatic helicopters, because they are ridiculously lethal. I find that never crashing builds my skill set faster because I learn faster when “in the concentration zone.” Another thing to consider is that crashing is a sort of maneuver, so the more we practice the better we get at it. It’s cheaper to treat crashing like dying, too, but that’s secondary.
So my basic learning method is practice a skill to the comfort zone and bored level, before building-blocking those skills together. If that takes a year, fine.
I taught myself to fly aerobatic 800 size helis that way. I have never crashed my 10 or so helis from my first attempted hover to full aerobatics today. It took me a year just to exit a tail oriented hover and landing on various coins.
I think this 100% deliberate attitude serves me well. But I also fly full scale, so I don’t want to confuse mindsets.
I used to have a zero crash policy, but then ended up never really pushing myself because I kept aborting maneuvers before I got to the point where I was learning from a mistake. I can absolutely see why you'd have that mentality with a helicopter. The risks of a model airplane are significantly less dangerous.
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It all depends what brings you satisfaction, so I actually disagree with “teaching” maneuver focused flying. To me, the goal is routine focused. How closely did my entire flight match my plan from takeoff to landing? The exact number of touch and goes at the end might not be critical.
Alan Watts pointed out that God or beauty or whatever is usually depicted as a blinding light in the heavens, but if we come to appreciate the unlikely miracle of our lives, the vision of a paper cup shines with the light of a thousand suns. So, at least to me, purposeful straight and level flight, or touching down on this penny, or executing an entire game plan without the plane ever flying me, really does “shine with the light of a thousand suns.” Maybe it’s a personality flaw? Maybe I’m a control freak.
Good stuff Jon. Low n Slow is the way to go...👍Certain airframes need a higher AOA to be stable in post stall HA maneuvers & each model is different. Takes time & practice to find that sweet spot whether upright or inverted...
That and just getting over the anxiety of being in a weird flight configuration. Once that's mastered it becomes a lot easier to perform.
great advice @ 12:50. i like to think of as "become comfortable with being uncomfortable" you broke it down nicely though. great flying, brotha.
Thanks for the tuition Jon, much appreciated. I just have to reconfigure in my head what stick movements you are using as I fly mode 1 , not mode 2 :)
Glad to help! The mode differences will be annoying to get through but it should at least help point you in the right direction.
Always be drifting 😂😂 that got me
good show. clean video. clear audio and narration. not much tutoring going on here. good pep talk
The tutoring comes from watching the stick movements. I'll try to make it more coherent in the future. Thanks!
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Great video! What rates/expo are you using? Thanks and keep up the great work!
150% rates, 75% expo on all surfaces.
Hi Jon , nice plane and great flying can this plane do a Harrier Roll that's a great maneuver.
That should be in the video too!
Yes that would be great i really like how the plane looks when flying like that but i know it's a hard maneuver i can't do that.
Thanks for showing the sticks. It really helps.
How much expo in your D/R are you using?
Great video btw!👍🏼
70% with 150% rates.
I’m not shure if you recommended planes or not but I would recommend the twisted hobby’s standard series for first timer 3D planes they will be the easiest to do 3D with.
I found the Night Timber X to be relatively easy to learn 3D aerobatics with. That was what got me feeling confident enough to pick this model up. This one got me up to the point where I'll be moving to balsa next.
@@TwoBrosRC not to mention the twisted standard planes are cheaper to when you get to balsa 3D guys you’ll never look back there so much better than the pnp 3D planes.
Looking into Precision Aerobatics since they're based here in the Raleigh area of NC - local pickup and their products are outstanding by all accounts.
@@TwoBrosRC dang you luck to pick them up there great really like there XR-52 design
Hey what prop are you using on it here? I found the standard wooden prop to be breaking fairly easily. Any good other recommendations? And did you spray her with something? Looks so shiny!
13x6.5 Xoar prop: amzn.to/44GwFzn
It's hand-brushed with Minwax polycrylic: amzn.to/3PNuwhb
@@TwoBrosRC Thank you! It states the wax is for wood materials, is that still the one also working just fine for foam then?
And also did you need to mode the props or do they screw on perfectly?
Thank you!
With any symmetrical main airfoil, the inverted harrier should be more stable than upright because the tail-rudder is dipped in smooth water.
By smooth water I'm sure you mean that the vertical stabilizer is in the prop wash and airflow which should help keep it flying stable and reduce wing rock. ;)
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I just mean the vertical stab and rudder sticks down into virgin air. When upright at high AOA the rudder is in turbulent air.
Same idea, different words. Got ya.
Never seen this channel. I learned most of my stuff from another well known guys rc group channel and TH-cam channel.
What prop are you running? I’ve been trying to find a good prop for 3D over the stock prop. Great video!
Xoar 13x6.5
Hi there I have the same plane nice flying. Just wondering wear is your cg set? Cheers
Just in front of the manual recommendation by about 5mm.
@@TwoBrosRC cool as thanks for reply
Hey, thanks for all the videos! what prop size would you recommend , factory says 13x6... but im thinking 14x5 would give better torque?
This was all flown on a 13x5 propeller. It's less intense on the motor and ESC and still incredibly capable.
Hey Jon love your videos mate,as you are a Spektrum user i wonted to ask your apinion on the dx9 radio,i have an old one but still working,would i be best 5o stay with Spektrum in your apinion or gonwithe another brand like the new frsky radios if i was to buy another new radio
We highly recommend Spektrum; a DX9 would work well.
I like the stick movement camera but what if you say with the manuevers what the stick combos are to enter each manuever.migjt help the viewer better.
Things to improve upon going forward. Thanks! I'll have to figure out a way to say it off the cuff. Just trying to talk while flying 3D is challenging enough, translating stick movements into speech while doing so is even more effort. I'll see what I can do.
Very nice, is possible to view the setup of transmitter? thx
th-cam.com/video/Z_2EOSBRuc0/w-d-xo.html
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Awesome flying man! Been flying a few years and really want an Extra but for some reason they scare me - maybe its because I am old and I associate the type with expert pilots. Do you think a competent sport plane pilot could fly this bird?
Absolutely. Just tamp down the throws with expo, or limit how far they can travel electrically/mechanically. Nothing to be afraid of - it's durable too and can be easily repaired.
@@TwoBrosRC Cheers man, thanks from the UK, just subscribed. Dont know if you like the E Flite Spitfire but I made a short video on my amateur channel "Small Field Flying" where I take the model to the actual airfield the original its based on flew from in WW2. Only a 7 min video if you like history and your ever bored.
@@jjs3287 Cheers m8, appreciate you. Think you could link it to me in a reply here? I'll check it out.
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I’m still learning how to prop hang anything that’s able . Failing miserably. My only hope & help , if there’s a 5 mph wind. I thought it was simply rudder & elevator, but ! Is there supposed to be ailerons too in this process ?
It's all stick and rudder work. Ailerons aren't necessary.
What is your radio setup. Rates and throws?
th-cam.com/video/Z_2EOSBRuc0/w-d-xo.html
Hello, I want to get the extra 300 but I was wondering if I could use a spectrum DXS for my transmitter and still have safe mode
No idea - most likely not given how limited the non-numbered transmitters are.
Great video. Sorry for beating the dead horse brother. But we’re you using AS3X during this video, or we’re you flying it Raw Dog without any stabilizer at all. Let me know please. THANKS
We always use a gyro for minute corrections, even on our balsa aircraft. They fly better and can be thrown around more without worrying about overcontrol - plus you can get the CG even further back and still keep stability.
Thanks you very much for the response Brother.@@TwoBrosRC
Hi i'am totally newbie in this hobby . i wanna ask if you have a video to setting the control,,flymode, etc...? thankyou
Do what?
do you have VIDEO Link about how to setup 3d plane radio control ,fc etc ? @@TwoBrosRC
th-cam.com/video/Z_2EOSBRuc0/w-d-xo.html
I get pretty frustrated practicing 3d on the sim. Any good tips for practice sessions?
Practice up high so you can make mistakes without worry.
Hey Jon what prop do you use?
13x6.5 APC
What propeller are you using? Can you share a link?
amzn.to/49SS4aA
Dude get a precision aerobatics addiction x or xl.....they are insanely good they blow the katana out of the water and the wing load makes them capable of super slow flight and boyant....treat yourself if your ever back in Orlando I'll meet up w ya and you can fly mine......I'm right next to orlando
We'll try to remember. Thanks!
Jon do you own any high end 3D airplanes like Extreme Flight models? I tried 3D on this Eflite model and it was a constant struggle. A friend turned me on to full blown 3D machines and immediately I got it. This 300 is a fun fast big air machine but I disagree that it’s a good 3D machine.
It's perfectly capable as a 3D aircraft if you've tuned it and put in some work. For $300 you can't really beat its performance. I don't have any balsa models right now, but I do have plans to pick up a PA Katana 52 in the future.
The key is in the setup 100%.
Do you have your setup file for download or sale anywhere?
We don't sell our setup files. You'll find the info here: th-cam.com/video/Z_2EOSBRuc0/w-d-xo.html
How did you get audio to say snap flaps and wing normal? Those audio cues aren’t in my nx8. Is that only in the IX series?
We fly on an IX20SE which uses custom audio callouts. You can't get that with an NX radio, unfortunately.
Are you using stock servos ?
Stock on elevator and rudder, Freewing 17g servos on the ailerons since one failed and I needed both to be the same.
Man if they had a ufo body for it I bet people would think it was a ufo lol the thing just does everything
Yeah, I'm going to try these in RF 9.5 and probably crash a lot. 🤣
Can you tell me why my Extra 300 requires up trim when switched to Safe mode, but neutral in regular mode?
Because SAFE hasn't been calibrated to have the level of pitch up needed to make it fly level. You can unlock the receiver and program it to your liking.
@@TwoBrosRC Thank you very much! That was a problem that plagued me on other planes as well. Sounds so logical. Hours on the phone with Horizon and three or four people were unable to solve that problem. Thanks for your time and thoughts.
what should i set the expo on low, high, medium and the rates for each of the surfaces for low, high and medium
What works for you is what you should just. Join up on Discord for help! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
How do you have your battery voltage call-out on command like that.....I have an nx8 and all I can get it to do is call outs during timer....how do you have it on switch like that....please help
It should be in the NX8's audio events macros. We don't use an NX radio so we can't specifically help here.
Thank God I'm watching this multiple times and mainly for pointers you move so fast lol....no salt being thrown just an observation.....it would take forever to break everything down
Got a question. Have you ever flown the EXTRA 300 without SAFE and AS3X. And if so, how did it fly. Was it controllable
It's controllable, but way more stable with the gyro performing minute corrections.
Thanks for the response. I've lost Two E-Flite airplanes on the Initial Maiden flight with SAFE turn ON. Triple checked everything over for days prior to take off. I've owned quite a few, so I'm not brand new at this. You Never know until it's in the air. This EXTRA was the second one with SAFE problems. I learned to fly way back when, when there was nothing but a box of brown balsa wood that you had to put life into. Before Electric airplanes. Before gyro stabilizers. The airplanes all flew well. Getting very hesitant to use any SAFE crap any more. @@TwoBrosRC
What receiverare you using?
AR637.
Okay really cool:) but what about the maneuver, where you basicially fly circles, while Rolling?
Rolling harrier is the term you're looking for.
@@TwoBrosRC okay yeah, i searched for it, but i could only find videos, where the plane is going straight ahead, but i´ve seen an rc airshow, where an yak did that, while fliyng in circles, is that just another kind of it or has it also got another name?
@@mattemotionaldamage586 Rolling harrier circle!
@@TwoBrosRC okay
I njoyed watching that but I'm not sure it's fair to call it a tutorial it was more a demo of what you can do. Michael Wargo does some very good tutorials but they all seem to be on hovering and harrier. I'm sure you will have watched them.
I would like you to pick a manoeuvre, demonstrate slowly in your hand showing what one is trying to achieve, couple that with stick positions then show us how your trained to do it and finally do it whilst showing the stick movements. Explain the likely mistakes. You could do a short series covering tumbles and I can't now recall the names of some of the other manoeuvres. You can also do it for hovering and harrier explaining the areas you found difficult and how you overcame them. Finally, you could probably do a short 'teaser' then a full one but restricted to Patreons only! Might increase your Patreons?
Hey Tommy, thanks for the feedback. You're right in a sense - this did start out with talking through the maneuvers and turned quickly into "learn how to master inverted harrier". I maintain that having the stick camera up helps my claim that it's a tutorial of sorts - I mean, how often do you see Michael Wargo showing his stick camera during any of his 3D tutorials? He's obviously incredibly skilled, and I think it would be way more useful to show the camera than it would be to just talk people through the maneuvers. Seeing the stick movements is another level entirely - being told how to do them is helpful but doesn't really convey the actual work required to match up what you see vs what you end up getting.
I'll keep what you said in mind going forward. This definitely won't be the last time I do something like this.
@@TwoBrosRC I understand your thoughts but I find it difficult to watch both finger movements and the aircraft. You tend to wiggle your sticks very fast. Probably a habit from gaming???? - about which I know nothing. I just know I never wiggle my sticks like that but I come from a ba kground of flying real aircraft where overcontrolling is not good - even though it might be effective. I can hover my helicopter really accurately by moving the stick to full deflections in all directions - legs need to be wide apart. Equally I can hover with stick clutched between my knees - so I can fils a map. Or by no visible movement with a hand. In the first case watching the behaviour of the rotor disk is a weee bit frightening!
I was trying to make more of a suggestion that criticism 😁
No worries!
My fingers move a lot because of high expo settings. Keeps me from over controlling the model.
How do you set up the controls for 3D
th-cam.com/video/Z_2EOSBRuc0/w-d-xo.html
I think a cobra is a little less impressive on a prop plane that can do prop hangs. On a jet you’re kind of balancing on the tail but if you can already hover it’s like “ok, what else you got?” Maybe on a warbird though!
There are no cobras here though.
@@TwoBrosRC I thought you mentioned them but maybe I just imagined 🤨
How does this plane compare to the one on real flight?
It's much more enjoyable to fly in reality.
It's a lot more stable in knife edge, harrier, hovering etc. in the sim but the stalling is way more aesthetic in real life.
Also it's actually very scary to land at first
Whsts max winds it will handle
No idea, try it for yourself and find out!
1:30 Wait wait wait! Why are both aileron up together with the elevator?!
Pretty sure we mentioned why. It's a mix that causes the model to stabilize in harrier.
@@TwoBrosRC Thanks, now that you mention it I hear it briefly in the video at 1:20. I tried looking for a video of yours detailing these modes but didn't find it. I would be interested to know about them. It actually blew my mind. I guess it reduces a bit the lift (or wing drag in Harrier).
@@WernerBeroux This guide goes over the process: th-cam.com/video/Z_2EOSBRuc0/w-d-xo.html
Need to see camera man fly again with 3D plane.
Tony doesn't know how to fly 3D. It's a skill he'll possibly pick up in the future.
@@TwoBrosRC
Oh I see. We definitely see your 3D or aerobatic tendencies when you fly the jets. Great flying and content, keep it up!
a lot of manoeuvers are not in the video : rolling harier, knife edge spin, pop top,...
Things to cover in a future upload. I've posted about them before, though, so feel free to look back through my channel. :)
Where is your CG? I've learned the recommended CG is much more for sport flying than it is 3D.
Around the front of the cockpit.
What's up with driving gloves!!! rofl
Bicycle gloves. They keep my hands from slipping off the transmitter so I don't drop it on the pavement and break $2,000 worth of equipment and lose control of the model.
Rc 'tutorials' are like guitar lessons.. 99% showboating and 1% educational.
I will keep looking for a real tutorial.
We're so sorry we didn't live up to your expectations with our free content. No, stop. Don't go.
Needs some leds and people would freak out
Nah, that just adds weight.
Looks kinda heavy
It isn't the lightest.
Wich battery do you use with this plane? Thanks for this beautiful video🫡.
I ask you because i tried to use a 2300 40c and the plane was tail heavy as hell but that wasn't a spektrum smart battery.
Now i use 3300 30c battery and it flies perfectly and it is balanced but it is a little bit heavy.
What batteries do you recommend
4s 2200 packs shoved all the way forward is how we flew ours.
Thanks😊