The Irish - Gods and Generals
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During the civil war 1st Maryland fought the Confederates 1st Maryland Infantry during the Battle of Front Royal. It is the only time in us military history where the 2 units of the same numerical number and from the same state fought each other. Many recognized family members and neighbors after the battle.
I remember reading about this somewhere
That’s actually interesting to me because I was born and am originally from Maryland but I grew up and currently live in Front Royal, VA. That blew my mind.
I'm from Maryland knew this it's important to know your peoples history
@@alltimelow2345 : I think it was in an edition of the old Civil War magazine from back in the '90s.
And that is the tragedy of a civil war. It's literally family and friends vs family and friends.
Corn was grown in that field and sent to Ireland during the potato famine. Many of the Irish boys died in the very field that had saved their lives.
Thats a full load
Ironic
Do you have any sources or additional literature about this? Would love to learn more about this!
@@kevinbadon5654 I just remember it from the movie. Went to see because my brother was an extra in it.
The cost of freedom
"This is not right! They're our brothers!"
"They're all from Dublin".
"Oh, alright then".
Dublin the best county in Ireland
@@michaelcollins6616 Dublin's not even Irish anymore
@@michaelcollins6616 have you ever been to Cork "Mr.Collins".....
It's a long way to Tipperary
I served in Ireland and the Irish have no problems killing each other over turf wars, religion, or politics.
More Irish killed Irish than the British army during the troubles.
During the Spanish Civil War, in the battle of Guadalajara, italians fought against each other: the Garibaldi battalion fought for the Republic and the Corpo Truppe Volontarie for the Nationalist. "History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme", as Mark Twain once said
as an italian i never knew it.
the Corpo Truppe Volontarie were the good guys
@@gryphgaming1887 Nationalists are always the good guys.
@@Assdafflabaff Yeah nazis cunts tend to like them. The rest of the world... not so much...
@@gryphgaming1887 No. They were fascist c*nts. Filth.
In 1876, British sent an expeditionary force, including a Irish regiment, to fight war with the Qing Chinese. The Irish in the Irish Regiment shockingly found out they were facing a regiment of Irishmen employed by the Qing Dynasty in one encounter!
Sounds very interesting. Do you have a source or link so I can read more?
@@debhinplease
Source?? Seems cool to read about
As an Irishman, this scene always breaks my heart. To flee the tyranny of England and come to a foreign land, only to be forced to kill your own countryman must have been truly awful.
Have you heard the song " Kelly's Irish brigade" ...chokes me up
Most fighting for the south didn’t own slaves numnuts
I mean it never happened so that’s good. There was no Confederate Irish brigade at Fredricksburg
As an American, I am thankful for their service and sacrifice. But I can not imagine the hell of the situation as you describe it. Must have been truly dreadful.
Movie is racist should be banned . How dare anyone show the true horrors our ancestors went through for freedom . Under the guise of “democracy” . Film is an 8% on rotten tomatoes because they dared show the confederacy in any sort of positive light . After all , you are convinced brothers shot brothers and endured CANNON FIRE just to keep the 1% to own their slaves .
Yaok gang
A lot of Irishmen fighting for the Union in the American Civil War were hoping to take the military skills they learned back to Ireland and fight for freedom there. A little rhyme I came across in a book about the period went something along these lines -
"When the battles are done and the war it is won and the Union secured forever,
sheath not your sword, brave Irish man, for you still have a Union to sever"
Thats actually amazing, poignant and beautiful. Sombering and really adds to this scene. Thank you for sharing
Yet still northern Ireland is owned by UK smh pray for my brothers in northern Ireland
How did it work out for them? I know a bunch of Fenians tried to invade Canada after the US Civil War...and now you have Canada.
@@aprilmorgan8133 Because those counties chose to remain in the UK by democratic process.
@@tk-6967 pffft, bullshit
They were colonized by forcing out the catholic population. The "democratic process" only occurred after they forced everyone who would vote against it out.
The Irish have been fighting for foreign armies for centuries, for example the Irish legion who fought for the French in the Napoleonic war's,
The Irish Brigade who fought in the Spanish civil war to name a few,
Not to mention all the Irish regiment's past and present in the British army.
An Irishman will sing at the drop of a hat, ask him to tell the truth, and he won't.
@@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk "The Irish move to the sound of the guns like Salmon to the sea" Kipling
@@grogscol
Indeed.
Irish fought on the Mexican side against the U.S.A. In the Mexican American war. John Riley led El Battalion De San Patricio and to this day these men are still celebrated as Mexican/Irish Heroes.
@@colonelalejandrovargas7605 monument to John Reily in Clifden, County Galway.
Americans depiction of Irish: Aw bejaysus, the irish harp! Those are proud sons of erin. How could we shed the blood of our brothers?
Actual Irish: HE'S FROM A NEIGHBOURING COUNTY, BREAK HIS KNEE CAPS!
Just breaking knee caps?
Someone was feeling merciful that day
LMAO so true even for American Irish stupid Hollywood
Lovely hurling.
A fratricidal war is terrible.
I am Polish. In the history of my nation, there have been many situations like this. During World War I, Poles fought in the armies of all three partitions (Austria-Hungary, Germany, and Russia) and often fought against each other.
In the memories of one of the generals, I read that on Christmas Eve in 1914, during one of the battles, Polish soldiers serving in the Austro-Hungarian Army in the trenches began singing Polish carols. On the Russian side, Polish soldiers started singing the same carol from the opposing trench. Suddenly, someone shouted in Polish, "You there, Poles, surrender!"
Next day those men had to fight each others.
In the same diary, a bit further, the officer described how one of his soldiers took his own father captive, who had been forcibly conscripted into the Russian army.
~530,000 of my countrymen perished fighting in World War I in the name of foreign interests.
It's sad that so many people today do not appreciate that they live in an independent country.
Yeah in a way... But then, it's always struck me why people would fight on behest of some Lord (or whatever upper class a hole aristocrat you might have in your country). I'm not fighting, except in defense (much like Ukraine today), period. Conscientious objectors don't get nearly enough credit.
@@mysterioanonymous3206because they were all trying to fight for a free Poland or so promised
We squandered the gift the provious generations left us. We became complacent to our self interested governments and put against each other in our own country. People do not appreciate the independence because we do not have one anymore.
*war is terrible
Polska na zawsze. Poland has saved Europe many times and we may need to call on them again to stop the current invasion of Europe. They are setting an example all of the other nations should be following.
Wish there was a movie about the Fenian Raids into Canada. One of the most interesting things I learned about history.
Battle of ridgeway would be amazing to see on screen
Fenian raids are such a bizarre and interesting conflict
They got their asses kicked is all i know
@@laurbster2680 Yep, the Queens Own Rifles met real soldiers and didn't fare well.
@@edwardgilson9891 Yes, the Fenian Raiders were incredibly successful, utterly defeated the Canadians and held the colony hostage in exchange for Irish freedom... oh wait, that's not what happened, was it?
This makes you feel a certain type of somber after just having watched 1944. Watching countrymen fight and kill each other over someone else’s wars is truly depressing to hear about.
1944...?
@@NobleKorhedron yes a movie by that title is largely themed around the impact WW2 had on small Baltic countries and their populations, particularly Estonia. Very sad to see a twin brother watch his brother fall in combat, and even more depressing when you realize this was probably a much more common occurrence than you’d expect. These countries were so small I’m sure some of them even fought skirmishes 5 miles away from their family homes, god knows The odds of this actually happening were much greater considering.
Almost ALL wars are at someone else's convienance pitting brothers vs one anothrr
@@NobleKorhedronmovie about Estonians in the Waffen SS fighting against Estonians in the Red Army
As an Irishman I can relate to this tragic episode..thanks for sharing this with us all...cheers ,sir..E...
You fought in the American civil war?
No other unit came closer to that famed wall on that fateful day than the men of Ireland who comprised that most green & courageous brigade, the best & fiercest in the Union Army. The Irish Brigade stood their ground heroically, & took appalling casualties in the process. With 30,000 such soldiers formed into 3 divisions fighting in the East the Union could have won that conflict by the Summer of 1862. What a spectacular & gritty recreation.
actually Meade broke through
@@nephite467they didn’t break through. No union line broke through the wall at Fredricksburg. The Irish got close to the wall but they already took heavy losses and needed to fall back
@@__mindflayer__not true Meade broke through at the swamp
@@nephite467 They never got THROUGH they got close to the wall by a few yards. But didn’t get THROUGH. No brigade did.
@@__mindflayer__the swamp was left undefended if Meade had been supported the whole battle is diffrent
The Uilleann Pipes made this way more emotional than I was expecting.
One of many tragic moments in the American Civil War, and one that illustrates the most the “brother vs brother” nature that the war took on
“Sir it seems that point is held by Irish troops”
“Ok so hear me out”
Except that never happened. Northern Irish never fought Southern Irish and the Harp or Erin was never on any Confederate battle flag. Mainly cause most Irish immigrants settled in the North.
@@jonathanrichwine1996 Look at you! Another researcher who has done some fantastic homework. I love it! However there were almost 40,000 Irish in the confederate army, though not at this particular battle, but definitely Gettysburg. Like the 6th Louisiana volunteers and the Virginia Brigade . There were Texas and Alabama Irish volunteers as well. In fact By 1861, the largest immigrant group in the South was the native Irish Catholics and Scotch-Irish Protestants. There is a fantastic book on the subject called The Irish at Gettysburg. It's a great read if you have Irish heritage, like me :) .
@@jonathanrichwine1996
@@bad74maverick1 kind of odd that your estimate of Itish Confederates is twice what other historians estimate. Only my English ancestors were here for the war. My Irish heritage got here after it was over.
@@craighightower4736 historian Paul Burns wrote extensively about Irish Confederates. in fact there are many works that show that around 40,000 served in the Confederacy. Sean O' Brian has written about it as well as Damian Shiels. Historians had originally thought that the estimate was somewhere around 20 thousand but in recent years a lot of detail has come to light on Georgia, Tennessee, Louisiana and even Virginia Brigades and divisions who fought and the current general consensus is closer to the 40k. In fact the 1860 census shows 79 thousand persons in the south of Irish birth And 56 thousand in the border states. Now that includes women and men in the census but still the numbers were there. The real number may never be known, but it is usually commonly agreed that it far exceeded 20k.
I remember standing in that field before the stone wall as a teenager, and later learning I had a cousin who advanced on that very field in the Union Irish Brigade...the only film where I ever wept in the theatre
Awesome scene.....truly captures the pain the Confederate commander felt when he breaks down in tears during the fighting.
Those mournful bagpipes get me every time they hit
The fighting Irish is not a name that has to do with alcahol - but to the centuries of Irish who fought for all armies across europe and beyond, the most famous Irish regiments of France Spain Portugal Austria- Hungry, Russia, and in German kingdoms, eventually the skill of the Irish soldier in french service encourage the British to develop Irish regiments - at the surrender of the french after waterloo, the english demanded the disbanding of the Irish regiments of the French army such was the reputation of those regiments ending 200 years of existence( due to the success of these regiments the other nations listed copied the french and formed irish bigades and regiments), for that long time those regiments became a career opportunity for Irishmen from a land that held no promise for them, a lot stayed on in France, hennessey brandy is one such family, charles de gualle acensters from county down was another such irishman
They just don't match the ferocity of the Scottish Highlanders.
@@bobmasencup5819 they are both Gaelic people, essentially the same, even their languages have a common root.
Perhaps, but I'd rather face Scottish Highlanders than Veteran Irishmen who had fought everywhere. Ones who actually obtained their freedom mind you.@@bobmasencup5819
@@bobmasencup5819scotland, named after the irish tribe scotti.... go back far enough we're one in the same
Scotland the brave still under English control Ireland a free prosperous republic that had a large influence in how the USA evolved I think history tells a different story don't you😂.
Éire agus na staití ainthia go braith🇮🇪🤝🇺🇲
Very accurate combat if not that there would be so much blackpowder smoke that it was always impossible to actually see the enemy formations once the firefight started, but of course, cinematically that would be impossible to film.
Fog of war
General William T. Wofford took over command of the Georgia Brigade after General Cobb was killed at Fredericksburg...my mother's grandmother was second cousin to General Wofford .
I wrote a paper on the Irish Brigade in college and let’s just say the Union Army treated them like cannon fodder most of the time. They suffered over 4000 casualties and if not for their leader Brigadier General Thomas Meagher it could have been much worse. They left home and the tyranny of the English crown, only to be mistreated and used as pawns in a war they had no stake in. Meaghers story alone is very interesting. He was a failed leader of the 1848 rebellion for Irish Independence and escaped a conviction to Australia. He was a true patriot for his people & should be remembered as such.
During the US Civil War the Irish proved themselves that in the coming decades they would rise to the highest point in American society. With the Irish proving their Patriotism, the American people no longer feared their Catholicism which they believed meant they were more loyal to Rome than the US. Of course Christians will/should always be loyal to Christ first but that doesn't mean they also can't be loyal patriots as long as their nations don't become force's for evil
A very poweful, and moving feature, I'm in tears.
Take care, and all the best.
3:37
Women: I can’t believe he didn’t cry during Titanic. Do men even have feelings?
Me: *crying like a baby seeing Irishmen killing fellow Irishmen*
I watched all 4 hours of God and generals, it very long but I love it watch every minutes, pls more clip battle of bull run, battle of athiem and etc
I served in the 69th infantry when I was in the New York National Guard. One of the lieutenants, he was a West Pointer; would teach us about the history of our beloved 69th from the civil war and WW1.
"Did they learn nothing from the English?" Ehh, lads, they're not the ones fighting to preserve slavery.
"Canons cost money. Use up the Irish. The dead cost nothing"
My family made it to San Francisco from Cork during the famine (genocide). These scene tore me apart.
GARRY OWEN. ERIN GO BRAGH 🇮🇪
69th NY was incredibily brave, one of the elite regiments in the AOTP. "When anything absurd, forlorn, or desperate was to be attempted, the Irish Brigade was called upon."
A movie based upon Jeff Shaara's book Gone for Soldier (2000) needs to be produced in Hollywood. I was thinking that the green flag helps to remind me of the San Patricios Battalion.
My great grandfather on my moms side was in a NY irish regiment. He fought at Antietam, this battle at Fredericksburg and Gettysburg, after Gettysburg he was pulled from the infantry and placed on ambulance personnel because he got arthritis through his legs from the thousands of miles of walking and couldn't walk very well. He survived the war and unfortunately had to go through getting documentation, letters, and proof from his friends, family and officers he served under that he was in the war just to get his war pension because the government didn't want to give it to him because he was Irish.
This movie was so good. The acting was incredible. So underrated. The actor who plays Col. Saint Clair Mulholland (Union Irish Colonel) was so good. He makes you feel what he's feeling. Just watching him in the field, you feel the tragedy of the situation. Brian Mallon was also incredible as Gen. Hancock (Union General on horseback). He was amazing in the first film Gettysburg playing the same character as well.
Absolutely heartbreaking but fills me with pride for the brave Irish on both sides.
As a Dane i have read and heard a lot about The Irish people and your complicated history. I wish you would all stop hurting each other over religion and come together as one great people. I mean you helped build America. If it weren´t for the Irish, it would never have evolved so quickly. Cheers from Denmark
@@asgerhyer5325 They lump all of us "White" people together these days anyway. Dane, Irish, German, Anglo, French, it doesn't matter. We all need to come together as a team or we're going to be wiped out.
@@asgerhyer5325 this particular battle had nothing to do with religion. Irish sectarianism aside, the Irish fighting against each other in the USCW basically just got the luck of the draw of which states they immigrated to and were thrust into the war often times through coercion and impressment.
How could you be proud of that slaver scum?
@@asgerhyer5325 lol yeah good luck with that.
Brave men who fought in the name of their new country. Tragic to see Irish fighting Irish.😢😢😢😢
My dad's side came from Ireland in 1845 and fought for the Union. Even fought in Gettysburg and survived. My mom's side fought for the Confederates and were Welsh. Can't win em all, I suppose 😂
Nothing wrong with the Welsh
I cried during this worthless slaughter of so many Union soldiers. Especially when it came to the Irish Brigade fighting their fellow Irish at the stone wall. It churned my stomach when so many sons of Erin died at each other's hands in a land that many of them fled to in search of freedom from the British. 😭🇺🇲🇮🇪 ERIN GU BRACH
You Irish yourself?
@@KMZX_700 American of Irish heritage
@@kyledunn6853 Same here brother. My Dad was from Dublin. Can't say the same for my Mum.
@@KMZX_700
My great grandfather was either from County Cork or Kerry. I can't remember off the top of my head, but my grandma knows. He was of the clan Donnahue.
@@kyledunn6853 i'm irish and live in ireland have any of you lads ever visited ?
There’s a great civil war podcast called” Threads from the national tapestry” that talked about this in an episode. A great podcast for those interested
This movie could've been amazing if there were more scenes like this and less pontificating about the "noble southern cause." Oh well...I still hope they make The Last Full Measure to complete the trilogy.
Yeah it’s utterly southern propaganda in that regard, still decent action
As opposed to literally choirs of angels in other civ war movies from the Federal perspective.
@@jackspratt8618 My comment had less to do with the content of the pontificating, and more to do with the fact that it was there at all. The book focused mostly on the battles and the men that fought them. The movie took untold minutes trying to justify the cause instead of just focusing on the battles.
I remember a scene in Gettysburg where Kemper starts political rambling and Armistead says "oh lord...the cause" and Longstreet chuckles. One of many that made that movie much better than this one.
It's been a long time Hollywood gone too woke to make any ACW war movies
Grant and Sherman going hard in the south would be great to see on the big screen.
cutting away from the one part that matters, the thunderous cheer from the brave Irish Brigade that charged and fell upon that wall, moved every defender to tears and sombre song.
I cry every time
My Great, Great Grandparents, a Riordan and a Reagan left Co Cork as strangers in the early 1850s, but met and married in South Melbourne Australia in 1854. My Great, Great Aunt, a Riordan, married a McCarthy in SW Cork and sailed for NYC in the early 1850s. Of the four policemen who laid in wait for the Kelly gang, disguised as miners and heavily armed, all were Irishmen. Like the Irish patriots who were smuggled out of Van-Diemen's land (Tasmania) to fight on both sides in the American Civil War, they were puppets to an English crown - still well entrenched in the eastern US as well as Canada, Australia and much of Europe. Fight for free men, but NEVER a crown.
I understand why people don’t like this movie, but the Fredericksburg sequence is still pretty good.
The battle scenes are all good. If rather lacking in gore that would’ve made them more serious.
But it’s all the in between stuff, I don’t mind a lot of the scenes about Jackson and Lee, but I need more about the north. Hancock was always my favorite in these movies, yet he never got enough time.
I loved this movie. I don’t care what the reviews say
Confederate propaganda, may the south never rise again
It’s a shame this film didn’t put in a scene with the angel of Maryes Heights.
I always wondered how thick would a shield have to be to deflect a musket ball. Maybe some kind of mobile wall that the soldiers could push into range? I dunno.
I just want to salute and pay my respects to Captain John Riley.
Most impactful scene in the movie
During the Napoleonic wars the French had a unit of Irish........the Spanish had one as well.......they ended up facing each other during one of the seiges......I could be wrong but I believe that it was Badjoz
Forward 69th! Raise the Harp of Erin, boys!
Think of it Many of those Irishman left 🇮🇪Ireland during the hard time of the 🥔potato Famine would've been on the same ships heading to 🇺🇸America For a better life only to kill Each other in a War that made no sense to them.
I cried during this scene thinking about it I'm Australian With Irish descent
🇦🇺🇮🇪🍀☘💚
Agree
Well it’s okay because it never actually happened
@@hollohullu9448What never happened?
@@debhinthe holocaust
Cleburne.....top..notch.
This is even sadder when you realize a lot of these guys fought long side each other in the young Irelander uprising in 1848 lead by the same commander of the Irish Brigade Thomas Francis Meagher they fought for the union to try and gain better treatment from the north who saw them as nothing more but cheap labor and a nuisance and they fought for the south to try and keep their status and they wouldn’t be like their brothers in north with slaves the Irish were viewed as better than some people but in the north they were viewed as scum
Very few Irishmen fought in the 1848 Cabbage Patch Rebellion. Most of these men would’ve emigrated to escape poverty and agitation in the Irish land wars
I read that one of Lincoln's motivations in allowing black volunteers to fight in the Union army after 1863 was that the Irish immigrants in the north were refusing conscription or volunteering for fear that free blacks in the north would take their jobs.
The Irish were treated as scum in the South as well. Used to clear swamps and do other deadly labor thought too expensive to lose African slaves. They all took spots of wealthier Americans who often paid an Irishman to fight in their place.
@@matthewvalentinas actually they were treated better on the south as they were though to be better than the blacks however in the north they were the bottom of the social ladder
Also Irish men everywhere did dangerous labor there were many coal mines in Ireland
This is always one of my favorite movies to watch during the holidays.
Why would you want to waste your holidays watching Lost Cause propaganda?
@@Pikkabuu I’d rather watch this than stupid meaningless pointless political news FOX and CNN news both which are more propaganda than this 😂
@@Pikkabuuby the way I’m not glorifying or dehumanizing either side of the Civil War
" The people hold the true power, have we forgotten?"
During the Mexican war, many Irish switched sides. The San Patricio Brigade is still honored in Mexico.
Irishmen have been recruited to fight for armies all over the world
Such a heartbreaking scene 😢😢😢😢. The commanding officers had to know that hill couldn't be taken why keep sending all those regiments to try and take it? The irish music that started playing really adds to the sadness
Guys i just got a crazy idea. What if all just use the Irish to fight our wars. We can mass produce them and they're cheap to feed with all the potatoes. And soon we could level them up and give them perks that allow them special abilities like finding gold and one move you can use where their red hair blinds the enemy like fire for a short period of time
Brave Irish-Americans
It feels like no matter how many of our sons and daughters die for other peoples wars and causes we will never be left alone
"I better get my damn four leaves clover and some genensiss beer after this shittt"
POWERFUL scene!!!
And weirdly enough not alot of irishman that where fighting for the confedarate side knew that England supported the confedaracy
escaping irish famine to find death in north america , it's realy sad
I'm Irish and this is heartbreaking to watch 😢😢😢
I feel like loading on the move would have been a good skill to have.
Irish had it worse than any slave.
During the war generals on both were cautious of having Irish units face each other as some of their commanders Thomas Meagher had fought along side each other in the Young Ireland movement.
It's hilarious hearing that Irish Confederate. Complaining about the Irish Union troops, not learning anything at the hands of the English. Meanwhile his side was being armed and funded by england... lol
Barely. England had no sympathy for the south, ironically for their slavery, despite holding numerous colonies where the native populations were treated like dirt. But if Southern blockade runners were able to bring cotton and other goods, who would the English be to not trade for it? It was much more expensive to harvest Indian cotton, and even so, many blockade runners were turned back by the English. The French had more sympathy for the confederacy than England. They tried to help, but were too busy trying to hold Mexico.
The CSA were never funded by the British that's total BS, they did allow the CSA to purchase rifles -- they also allowed the USA to purchase weapons. Altogether, Britain sent over 900,000 Enfield rifles and rifled muskets to America during the Civil War, not to mention accoutrements, bayonets, and ammunition, most of it was purchased by the Union. So according to your logic, the Irish should have had a problem fighting for the Union too. The Enfield was a more accurate weapon than the US made Springfield - so it was desired by both sides, and the British were quite OK with providing weapons to Americans so they could wipe each other out, and they could make a handsome profit too - a win-win situation for them. Had Britain really thrown its weight behind the CSA, the CSA would have won - without doubt. For years the Civil War was such a close fought thing, that the British could have pushed either side to a quick victory. A CSA victory would have been useful for the British, but public sympathy in the UK was with the Union and its abolitionist policy. Also - another fun fact for you - 40% of the "British" army in the 1860's was recruited in Ireland -
That’s not accurate at all the south got very little from England
Shoutout to Pat Cleburne.
Burnsides, good lord
I had several kinfolks in Co.D of the 24th Georgia Infantry.
It does hurt me. My Irish brigade being killed by thier own coutnrymen. And them forced to kill their own too.
Good, but still way too sanitized. There's hardly a drop of blood with most of the KIAs.
Damn one of those men could have been Conan O’Briens great great grandfather 😮😮
Jordan Schlansky's great grandfather was in the amputation tent with an ornate 19th century espresso maker.
The trigger for this calamity was the destruction of Gaelic Ireland and its royal structures in the 16th century as the hybrid Franco Norman / Germanic "tribe", which fused to create England, prosecuted war to undertake a colossal and illegal land grab in Ireland. More wars, battles and famine followed, forcing the indigenous Irish, those still living, to flee their country. By the 18th century, and without the traditional leadership of their now subjugated Gaelic "kings" and removal of Gaelic Brehon law, the native Irish had to make the difficult choice to stay and fight on against the odds, or leave and live to fight another day. They left, in many cases to join the armies of France, Russia, Spain and Austria-Hungary, fighting England. Many too left for the Americas, North and South.
But the majority that would become soldiers thought in the British army
"illegal" - what law were you referring to? There was no international law back then - it was "right of conquest". There was no UN, no laws regarding warfare at all - "stay and fight on against the odds" -- no, most staid and joined the British Army actually, 40% of it was recruited in Ireland in the 19th century, and about 30% in the 18th. For 200 years foreign nations that came up against the "British" invariably fought Irish troops - who did a very good job. But of course, this actual REAL HISTORY does not fit into your anti-British rhetoric, so you make sh** up to suit your prejudices.
Por favor...qué terrible final .
Fratricida 😢eran hermanos
A complaint I have is they should have had paintball guns (Movie production, not real life) using chalk rounds and peppering that wall.
It's looking like either the Union is firing high or few are firing.
The wall should be getting pelted by chalk rounds giving the impression of withering gun fire.
They’d all have to wear face masks to prevent them from hitting their eyes
weird story. I went bow hunting in Western Maryland, Indian Springs WMA…. Was just getting my rig out of the back of my truck, and herd this rustling all around me- dark as gtfo, then, ghastly ghostly forms started appearing out of the underbrush, dragging stuff, mumbling miserably mostly. I’m like wtf is going on here?
It was the extras from Gods and Generals- they were filming there. Bagged a couple secessionists that day. Stragglers.
Brother against brother
No one in their right mind stands in the open and duels with people behind a wall.
what this is missing of course is that almost all the irish there would have been speaking Irish Gaelic
maith an fhear
Depends which parts of Ireland. The language was losing a lot of speakers, and even in that time most of Munster was speaking English
Anyone know where i can watch this movie? I cant find it anywhere
Ιt darkens my heart seing this. For the sea battle of Lepanto, there were Greeks who joined the Christian powers, fighting Turks, hoping for better days of their country! Infortunatelly. on the other side, big numbers of Greeks, were forced to serve in Ottoman navy, due to their naval expertise and tradition 😢. I am really sorry for this awful occasion that poor Irish found themselves cought in. Really really tragic!
Many people dislike the two movies - this in particular - but politics or whatever aside, i think it's the sort of "pre-CGI-ish" experience that only a huge bunch of reenactors could provide, and there's a lot of merit on that.
I’m a Scotch-Irish-Choctaw-Prussian, I relate to and identify with this tragic incident of blind rage of hate against one another. Even my own family never had Civil Peace for decades.. Me and my family all live in Neutral Zones 🖖🖖 and are scattered across the galaxy of life.. Yes, we might be possibly “brothers” and “families” by DNA and other biological means, yet we are Star Systems and Planets Apart from being a real true civilized loving family.. Narcissistic gaslighting and pride nuclear bombed any true love for each other. 😢
Your family got about a bit, didn't they?
@@rogueriderhood1862 Yeah back in the day
So, you're actually just an American with notions.
@@imeantherearethedarktownsy5210There is no such thing as just an American.
Bloody Scotch-Irish-Choctaw-Prussians taking over the neighbourhood!
The irony that an Irish American fighting for the south which its sole war goal was to gain independence to keep the institution of slavery alive then saying "these union Irish American's have been mislead to their fate" is funny af. Like bro come on now you are the ones fight to preserve slavery and the Irish were essentially slaves to the British in all but title, just goes to show that director Maxwell didn't do any research and put forth this movie which is a perpetuator of US civil war revisionism. Cool battle scenes though :P
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It's a good story and a fun myth but nothing like this ever happened. The 24th Georgia was 'Irish' enough to recognize Meagher's unit as being Irish and shot them down without compunction. The regimental commander of the 24th Geo, Robert McMillan, made a comment about Meagher's Irishmen and then opened up on them with mostly buck and ball from .69 Springfields.
They killed their brothers.
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Recently visited this battlefield. Most of the confederate positions are still there, but the ground where the union dead lied has been turned into a parking lot ;-;
Every man for himself!
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Is that the 69th New York nearest the camera during the advance?
Kellys Confederate Irish brigade were some of the bravest men in the war in Missouri , a great song about them " kellys Irish brigade"
No self-respecting Irishman would be in the south and yes, I'm a union man and I have Irish ancestry
@@mikepenny8940 then you need to study more about your ancestry.....and basic history...
If your irish if your on of the great kin if your one of the many brothers and sisters of Ireland's give a pray for all irish fallen and all irish serving
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