I don't think it's mentioned in DSotR, but the police officer who helped sneak Flair into the hospital to see TA was none other than Doug Dellinger, who I always remember as the on-camera "Head of Security" during the WCW Nitro days.
As someone who lived through this era, I can testify that Magnum TA was easily, the biggest star in Jim Crockett promotions. The second he went down, it hurt that whole territory. Vince McMahon probably would’ve won the war anyway, but it would not have been at that point.
Tom Selleck was doing leading guy parts since the mid-70s and was supposed to be Indiana Jones, but couldn’t get free from his scheduling with Magnum. Long story short, Tom was no underachiever.
I still remember how over he was back in the early 80's. I'm surprised Tully Blanchard didn't appear in that episode to discuss their feud and their I Quit match.
I really enjoy watching this episode. Magnum had a story of someone who could of been bitter because of his accident and how it ended his in-ring career but is instead making the most out of life no matter the situation. Happy to see that he's enjoying life as much as he can
going through trauma and the pains of life can absolutely destroy all of us, no matter how strong we might be or how much money we have or how much we accomplished beforehand. absolutely can leave someone bitter and resentful so glad to hear he doesn't feel that way. I bet it took many many MANY painful moments and years to get to this point, but i am thankful and happy he did
Hearing about Buzz leaving his two dogs behind after skipping town didn't change my opinion on how much of a garbage person he was. Surprised he hasn't gotten a DSOR.
As someone that saw buzz Sawyer in real time, he was definitely one of the best in ring performers ever. But, like a lot of you, we found out in recent years what a trash human being he was. And while I’m not a pet lover, buzz could’ve at least called somebody to come get the dogs if he wasn’t gonna take them with them. Kudos to Mark Calaway, a.k.a. the Undertaker for taking in those dogs. Yeah, well, Sawyer was a great wrestler, but a piece of trash human being.
Theres an ESPN 30 for 30 about running back Marcus Dupree called the "The best that never was" about his he could've gone down as an all time great but a number of factors prevented it from happening. When i think if Magnum TA I think "the best that never was".
I think Magnum has limited mobility, so he can walk with some aid, but not for very long, then the scooter comes in to play. I've known quite a few people who were like this, including my mom who during her battle with MS was in this condition for almost a decade before losing all the mobility in her legs. It's more common than people realize, as is how often people accuse them of faking it.
This was a very informative episode of Dark Side of the Ring since he was way before my time I learned so much while watching this Episode Magnum TA is the biggest what if in Wrestling.
Jake knew Magnum TA from their time in CWF & Mid-South. Also the heels did visit Magnum. Double A had said on his podcast that they had to use the service entrance to see him
People say that he could have been the next Hulk Hogan, but if there’s one Magnum TA can say is that he is a better human being than Hulk Hogan. It’s a story that even when an opportunity is taken away, it shouldn’t be the end of your story and also a reminder how life can sometimes go 180 in a blink of a second
Hogan’s no angel, but I’m not sure we should be praising the character and moral fiber of a man who slept around on his wife while she stuck by him and nursed him back to health lol
@@146zigzag3 Agreed. I’m no Hogan apologist, but I find it so silly when people go out of their way to force a Hogan diss, ESPECIALLY when it it’s so easy to find legitimate reasons to diss him lol
@@juansanchez209 I do agree, but I will argue almost everyone slept around in those days or had affairs. Plus he was a young handsome guy, and many times...people drink their own koolaid of seeing how hot shit they are. I do feel after his first wife left, he really knew he fucked up bad. Like controversial opinion, but I think cheating isn't as bad as fucking minors or killing people, which was way more common. Guy was a young hot guy, anyone in his shoes would probably break or do something like that. It's fucked, but look at every celebrity nowadays or Hollywood, cheating is...common. So I rather hate Hogan over someone who, worse thing he did...he stopped after his wife left and got way better, especially when it was the 1980s. He fucked up bad, it was wrong...but imo Hogan did worse.
I knew of Magnum T.A but didnt know much about him i heard of his accident but didnt know how bad it actually was im glad he still here and living the best life possible
My biggest beef with this episode was that they completely blamed Magnum's accident for the downfall of the NWA and as a result, Crockett had to sell to Uncle Ted. Like you said, there were other reasons that they neglected to mention, I guess for purposes of the narrative. And I really enjoyed Tom Selleck in the "Jesse Stone" made-for-tv movies (there's about 9 of those, I think they started around 2005). As big as Tom was as a television star, somehow his feature film career seemed to fizzle out rather quickly (I really like the western "Quigley Down Under" but that's mostly because Alan Rickman is the villain of the film).
Jake was totally useless on this episode. He added nothing. I don’t understand why the producers didn’t get Arn, The Rock&Roll Express. Barry Windham(if he’s well enough) Ric, Tully or even Tony Schiavone. Any of them would been better than Mr. DDT. Now regarding Tully maybe they didn’t discuss their feud b/c Magnum married Blanchard’s ex. Could be some real life heat there.
Tom Selleck tried to capitalize on his fame from magnum pi by making some movies in the early 90's, none of them were very good and his movie career had fizzled out by '94. I can't remember the title but I do know one was a black comedy where he played a guy who was down on his luck and in need of money, so his aged parents decided to let him have their life insurance money. But the catch was they had to die in an accident so the entire movie was basically a series of bits involving them trying to concoct different "accidental deaths" ranging from the mundane (both of them accidentally tripping over the dog and taking a header down a flight of stairs) to the ridiculous (him pumping gas on them in the backseat of their car so they could set themselves on fire) to the outright bizarre (something about them both slipping in the shower and accidentally hanging themselves on a loofah). Don Amiche and Sally Field were in it.
He would have to adapt but he had the talent to stay in the main event card to the upper mid card. I just don't see his gimmick aging well at all, so it would have been up to him and his ability to change with the times as he got older. I think he could have pulled it off, and we missed out on many classics due to his accident.
But I do agree, Jim Crockett promotions would’ve imploded anyway with the way they were doing business. Yes, they were making big money but they were spending more than they was making. That would’ve sucked them anyway even without Vince.
Magnum can still walk, but Im sure its harder than he wants to work so he got a scooter. I see healthy people on scooters all the time especially nowadays. I cant blame the man for wanting to take it easy.
Using a scooter doesn't necessarily mean he can't walk anymore. I live around a lot of elders and I've seen it a lot, they are technically able to walk but it's not always convenient or easy or them to do so so they have the scooter utilized as a "backup plan", so to speak. So Magnum might have something like that going on these days, he's not immobile but he has other options if his body isn't cooperating that particular day or he just doesn't feel like it.
Well since Vince started drooling the moment he got Tom Magee and decided he was his next Hogan I imagine it wouldn't have been just his mouth the fluid was coming out of him if he got Magnum as his next Hogan
I don't think it's mentioned in DSotR, but the police officer who helped sneak Flair into the hospital to see TA was none other than Doug Dellinger, who I always remember as the on-camera "Head of Security" during the WCW Nitro days.
As someone who lived through this era, I can testify that Magnum TA was easily, the biggest star in Jim Crockett promotions. The second he went down, it hurt that whole territory. Vince McMahon probably would’ve won the war anyway, but it would not have been at that point.
Imagine Sting vs Magnum T.A. at Starcade. The Hogan/Warrior match for WCW.
“Tom Sellek didn’t have a big role until 20 years later” I know you didn’t watched Friends but his role as Richard was sure a big one.
True, but I was thinking something more along the lines of a leading role
Richard is pretty creepy when you look into it
@@TheSolomonster gotcha
He was also in the show Las Vegas for a couple of seasons.
Tom Selleck was doing leading guy parts since the mid-70s and was supposed to be Indiana Jones, but couldn’t get free from his scheduling with Magnum.
Long story short, Tom was no underachiever.
I still remember how over he was back in the early 80's. I'm surprised Tully Blanchard didn't appear in that episode to discuss their feud and their I Quit match.
I wondered if it was because Magnum is now married to Tully's ex wife.
@@ShiksaWithChutzpah1 WOW. I never knew that. I thought Magnum's first wife was hot.
@@ShiksaWithChutzpah1Tully had his own story soon because of cocaine incident hours before Survivor Series 1989
I really enjoy watching this episode. Magnum had a story of someone who could of been bitter because of his accident and how it ended his in-ring career but is instead making the most out of life no matter the situation. Happy to see that he's enjoying life as much as he can
But it has the less tragedy
going through trauma and the pains of life can absolutely destroy all of us, no matter how strong we might be or how much money we have or how much we accomplished beforehand. absolutely can leave someone bitter and resentful
so glad to hear he doesn't feel that way. I bet it took many many MANY painful moments and years to get to this point, but i am thankful and happy he did
Hearing about Buzz leaving his two dogs behind after skipping town didn't change my opinion on how much of a garbage person he was. Surprised he hasn't gotten a DSOR.
Undertaker is the man for adopting those abandoned dogs. Rot in hell, Sawyer.
Summed up my feelings on both accounts. Taker is a legend all around. Buzz was trash.
As someone that saw buzz Sawyer in real time, he was definitely one of the best in ring performers ever. But, like a lot of you, we found out in recent years what a trash human being he was. And while I’m not a pet lover, buzz could’ve at least called somebody to come get the dogs if he wasn’t gonna take them with them. Kudos to Mark Calaway, a.k.a. the Undertaker for taking in those dogs. Yeah, well, Sawyer was a great wrestler, but a piece of trash human being.
Actually, Magnum's grandfather fronted him the money, not his Mom
Theres an ESPN 30 for 30 about running back Marcus Dupree called the "The best that never was" about his he could've gone down as an all time great but a number of factors prevented it from happening. When i think if Magnum TA I think "the best that never was".
That's a fantastic episode. I haven't watched every 30 for 30 but that one is my favorite by far, I could watch it every day.
What happen to Dupree ?
@@lexkanyima2195 As of the end of the doc he was working as a truck driver, hopefully he's still doing ok.
Jake was in this episode solely because his mustache game was the closest to Magnum's 😆
I think Magnum has limited mobility, so he can walk with some aid, but not for very long, then the scooter comes in to play. I've known quite a few people who were like this, including my mom who during her battle with MS was in this condition for almost a decade before losing all the mobility in her legs. It's more common than people realize, as is how often people accuse them of faking it.
This was a very informative episode of Dark Side of the Ring since he was way before my time I learned so much while watching this Episode Magnum TA is the biggest what if in Wrestling.
Jake knew Magnum TA from their time in CWF & Mid-South. Also the heels did visit Magnum. Double A had said on his podcast that they had to use the service entrance to see him
People say that he could have been the next Hulk Hogan, but if there’s one Magnum TA can say is that he is a better human being than Hulk Hogan. It’s a story that even when an opportunity is taken away, it shouldn’t be the end of your story and also a reminder how life can sometimes go 180 in a blink of a second
Hogan’s no angel, but I’m not sure we should be praising the character and moral fiber of a man who slept around on his wife while she stuck by him and nursed him back to health lol
@@juansanchez209 People just love taking shots at Hogan even when it doesn't make any sense.
@@146zigzag3 Agreed. I’m no Hogan apologist, but I find it so silly when people go out of their way to force a Hogan diss, ESPECIALLY when it it’s so easy to find legitimate reasons to diss him lol
@@juansanchez209 I do agree, but I will argue almost everyone slept around in those days or had affairs. Plus he was a young handsome guy, and many times...people drink their own koolaid of seeing how hot shit they are.
I do feel after his first wife left, he really knew he fucked up bad. Like controversial opinion, but I think cheating isn't as bad as fucking minors or killing people, which was way more common. Guy was a young hot guy, anyone in his shoes would probably break or do something like that. It's fucked, but look at every celebrity nowadays or Hollywood, cheating is...common.
So I rather hate Hogan over someone who, worse thing he did...he stopped after his wife left and got way better, especially when it was the 1980s.
He fucked up bad, it was wrong...but imo Hogan did worse.
Is Solomonster forgetting Tom Salleck was in Three Men And A Baby? And was a reoccurring character on Friends?!
If Three Men and a Little Baby was his big claim to fame, then you just proved my point 😂
@@TheSolomonster You’ve just merged the two titles into one! 🤣
@@flashgordon8792 LOL I didn't even realize it 😂
Speaking of "what ifs" Selleck was cast as Indiana Jones but had to turn it down
Think about that one for a second
Yeah, that i quit match with Tully was brutal. The best of 7 with Nikita was good.
I knew of Magnum T.A but didnt know much about him i heard of his accident but didnt know how bad it actually was im glad he still here and living the best life possible
WWE should have put magnum t a in the WWE fake Hall of fame.
His ex wife had the whisperiest voice I’ve ever heard
Like Jennifer Tilly.
She was hot. Loved the sultry voice.
good review
Tom Selleck was great in Mr. Baseball.
I feel he wudda won the the Title at Starrcade 87 then dropped to Flair in Starrcade 88. Sting still becomes Champion in 1990
I said the same thing about this episode. Where was The Tully Rivalry???
He would have been great
I agree with you the 80s had the best TV shows and the late 70s
My biggest beef with this episode was that they completely blamed Magnum's accident for the downfall of the NWA and as a result, Crockett had to sell to Uncle Ted. Like you said, there were other reasons that they neglected to mention, I guess for purposes of the narrative. And I really enjoyed Tom Selleck in the "Jesse Stone" made-for-tv movies (there's about 9 of those, I think they started around 2005). As big as Tom was as a television star, somehow his feature film career seemed to fizzle out rather quickly (I really like the western "Quigley Down Under" but that's mostly because Alan Rickman is the villain of the film).
Jake was totally useless on this episode. He added nothing. I don’t understand why the producers didn’t get Arn, The Rock&Roll Express. Barry Windham(if he’s well enough) Ric, Tully or even Tony Schiavone. Any of them would been better than Mr. DDT. Now regarding Tully maybe they didn’t discuss their feud b/c Magnum married Blanchard’s ex. Could be some real life heat there.
Tom Selleck tried to capitalize on his fame from magnum pi by making some movies in the early 90's, none of them were very good and his movie career had fizzled out by '94.
I can't remember the title but I do know one was a black comedy where he played a guy who was down on his luck and in need of money, so his aged parents decided to let him have their life insurance money.
But the catch was they had to die in an accident so the entire movie was basically a series of bits involving them trying to concoct different "accidental deaths" ranging from the mundane (both of them accidentally tripping over the dog and taking a header down a flight of stairs) to the ridiculous (him pumping gas on them in the backseat of their car so they could set themselves on fire) to the outright bizarre (something about them both slipping in the shower and accidentally hanging themselves on a loofah).
Don Amiche and Sally Field were in it.
“Folks”. And everyone kept thinking Don Ameche wanted them to take him to McDonalds.
He would have to adapt but he had the talent to stay in the main event card to the upper mid card. I just don't see his gimmick aging well at all, so it would have been up to him and his ability to change with the times as he got older. I think he could have pulled it off, and we missed out on many classics due to his accident.
But I do agree, Jim Crockett promotions would’ve imploded anyway with the way they were doing business. Yes, they were making big money but they were spending more than they was making. That would’ve sucked them anyway even without Vince.
Magnum was not getting belt at Starrcade 86. That is a myth.
Jake was there for a payday.
Magnum can still walk, but Im sure its harder than he wants to work so he got a scooter. I see healthy people on scooters all the time especially nowadays. I cant blame the man for wanting to take it easy.
Using a scooter doesn't necessarily mean he can't walk anymore. I live around a lot of elders and I've seen it a lot, they are technically able to walk but it's not always convenient or easy or them to do so so they have the scooter utilized as a "backup plan", so to speak.
So Magnum might have something like that going on these days, he's not immobile but he has other options if his body isn't cooperating that particular day or he just doesn't feel like it.
Hangman TA
Well since Vince started drooling the moment he got Tom Magee and decided he was his next Hogan I imagine it wouldn't have been just his mouth the fluid was coming out of him if he got Magnum as his next Hogan
Magnum is more recognizable
Magnum TA, WOAW!
Magnum was never going to be NWA world champion