@@eastgermant-72m1mbt5 I don't know where you're getting at, I never talked about a Pz IV being slow? Also one Pz IV did have slow turret traverse, the J variant.
@@eastgermant-72m1mbt5 they all were dependant on engine revs, not 100% certain why but I suspect unlike allies who used hydraulics to turn their turrets which could run off battery power needed for operation, the Germans probably had an electric motor powered directly from the engine (could confirm this if I can find out if they were forced to turn it manually with engine off). Advantage is Germans if they revved up their engines in neutral could easily out turn allied turrets especially with tiger having neutral steering, downside is it would be loud giving away position and engine immobilised = hand cranking.
I mean this was the problem with the Tiger (Other than the transmission) Most any fast tank such a Cromwell or some version of the Sherman could charge it get to the side or rear and kill it. If the Tiger’s turret alone really turned this fast I’m pretty sure it would have gotten many more tallies than it did.
@@englishcrashingpilot5769 Except irl tank engagments were at fairly long range, and even when not, tanks weren't usually on their own so this idea of charging a tiger to outrun its turret speed is ridiculous and suicidal. One of the other tanks or AT guns accompanying it would knock you out
All I can hear are Hauptmann Voss from CoH yelling combat lines from the Tiger 205 campaign lol “Kanone Loaded!” “Panzermotor to 450 PS.” “*coughing* Round up, round up!”
I had played a Sherman and Tiger tank in Hell Let Loose The turret turns so slow that everyone freaks out when the enemies are coming When I became the driver I knew I need to help the gunner out so I turned the tank directly towards where the gunner is aiming We got so many kills acting like a Stug/Jagdpanzer
I read that the turret rotation of the Tiger was notoriously slow however the panzer "Ace" Michael Wittmann employed a "cheat" of a kind!!! He originally became an ace on the eastern front commanding a StuG(I don't remember which model)! So the StuG main gun has no turret and has only 14 degrees of lateral movement! So to engage a target outside of your scope you would have to direct the driver to steer right or left while standing still! The book I read claimed this is the method he adopted when he became commander of a Tiger! There are however 2 draw backs...if the driver jerks too hard it's hard to compensate, so it takes practice! Also IRL it could cause you to throw a track depending on the terrain!
dont forget the tiger turret rotation speed was linked to the engines rpm. so its slowest was 6* a second and at the highest engine limited was 19*s but if you didnt have a engine limit it was 36* a second. realistically you can have a turret move that quickly.
I'm sorry but no, the tiger's turret rotation wasn't "notoriously slow", it was very normal at that time (1940s tanks) and almost every tank had a similar turret rotation. Some versions of the panther had a even slower turret rotation.
I tried removing the HUD, playing hardcore and using realistic movements to make a fan BF5 trailer and it was HARD. The most annoying part was finding the objectives bc everyone else could see them while I’m sitting there trying to figure who my teammates are lol. I will admit it looked pretty cool but I ended up cancelling the project thanks to the lack of a capture card. Love the video RD, should do more like this if you can!
Just saying, even tho it wasn't advised "good tank drivers" turned the tank on the same time to speed on the process, risking losing a track or worse in the process
@@yeraymonzon6338 It could, look at Michael Wittmann, he would neutral steer his tiger while turning the turret. It would put a huge strain on the gearbox but he was very successful together with his gunner Balthasar “Bobby” Woll who was also famous for accurately aiming the gun while driving without any stabilizer
@@Nausal I mean it worked for wittmann because he knew what he was doing, but usually it would only cause the tiger to break. Thus why it couldn't be done unless you knew how to do it beforehand.
@@Nausal Given only a very very few handful did it if not just one it is considered it can't be done on regular standards. That is why even though one person survived a 10km fall no parachute from a plane without injuries, it is still considered impossible to survive it. Only because one or two did it doesn't mean it can be done. Saying something can be done means everyone can do it.
Yet the Tiger doesn't stand a chance against the M3 or a stolen Puma because it can definitely drive around the Tiger faster than the turret spins. It is really awesome. You need to try it
Also of note is all the tanks in BFV behave as if they're stabilised, when that feature wouldn't become standard on tanks until the 70s; the gun maintains direction as you rotate the hull, and will remain level as you drive, brake, and go over bumps. IRL the gun would be completely unusable in motion, and you would have to wait 1-2 seconds after stopping for the entire tank to stop rocking in order to fire.
Appreciate the shoutout bruther, nice video! Edit: I’m not complaining however, when u looked on Wikipedia you saw the statistics for the tiger 2 which had a much slower traverse than the tiger 1 so you kinda forced yourself to use a worse version of the tigers rotation speed XD still did fantastically tho
There's 3 types of tiger users in BFV. -The ones who think the tank makes them God and die upon leaving spawn to a squad of assault guys with comms. -The ones who never leave spawn and spend the match trying to snipe with it but get nothing done minus a few hits -Then there's "hard-core tankers" who join with a 4 man +, got comms, and move objective to objective as a group getting s**t done. But on the real, tanks in BFV are BROKEN, turret speeds are ridiculous, hearing footsteps while inside the tank is ridiculous, and being able to hit speed within 2 seconds of accelerating it totally BS.
The ones who never leave spawn infuriates me. The infantry is getting wiped on the Frontline and getting no support, whilst the cowards uselessly preserve their tanks. Get out give the tanks to those of us that know how to put it to use.
@@carlpedro8427 I'm not buying BF 2042 if they keep up the spawn boundaries. I want to go back to BFBC2 where you couldn't camp a base because the opponent would just walk up in the base and kill. If they lock the enemy base as out of bounds and basically invite tank camping bases AGAIN I'm not buying. Too much frustration from that bull.
In all honesty I'm with the guy who brought it up, it's balances out the strength of tanks with a weakness....that is what reality does everything has a price. Add more armour, the heavier you are, the heavier you are the slower things are. And that is why tigers tended to be used at long range rather than up close where the sher man and t-34s could out manoeuvre them. That and armour works better the further away you are when shell penetrating power drops off as it slows down
Played a private server one night of Conquest. The mod chose no 3rd person view for the vehicles. Holy crap that was hard in a Tiger on PanzerStorm. Your looking thru this little slot only the whole game. Did fairly well that game though.
This was fun to watch! But what I really got out of this.. just enjoy the game.. if guy wants immersion with the Tiger 1 tank, have his guy start it up with the crankshaft handle before taking off to battle.. and take it for a car wash and an oil change while he’s at it
Just play War Thunder for that, except you don't get to crankshaft it although I wish I could, but for the rest quite accurate. An absolute unit if you use it well.
i bought battlefield 5 a week ago, i need to play it more though, but im just absolutely terrible at competitive pvp, like i only have 4 kills in total
@@OmnikTWR I would advise you to try out the combined arms gamemode in order to get a feel for the game, after that... well good luck, you’re pretty much on your own.
that was early tigers traverse speed, later varients of the tiger were much faster edit: depending on how much power you set the engine to, either 19 degrees a second, or at full power 36 degrees a second.
Next realistic challenge for the Sherman? I might change the settings and keep them on permanently. 🧐 9:59 you can also change the sticks in settings but you probably saw that with the hull lock settings.
@@kino_Kk thats because all late war german tanks had their rotation speed linked directly to the engines rpm. and seeing how most german tanks at that time had a rpm limiter on them most had the same turning rate. but the tiger 1 could have its limiter removed and you can crank that engine all the way to 3000rpm and make that turret move.
the tiger turret didnt turn that slow really it depended on how fast the gunner could turn the turret or how good the turret rotation was on average for a tank (also why did someone complain about a battlefield game being realistic)
@@subjectc7505 I like realism but i dont search it on battlefield xD. One thing they got right is the MG42.... damn brother. I got the Wehrmacht winter coat with the gloves and the Stahlhelm with the german shield, the MG42 with the 250 rounds belt, P38, shovel, impact nade, and some AT mines. Finally some good fucking food, it scares the shit out of people
that was early tigers traverse speed, later varients of the tiger were much faster depending on how much power you set the engine to, either 19 degrees a second at 2000 rpm, or 36 degrees a second at 3000 rpm.
The 36 number wasn't a tiger improvement it was the crew disengaging the engine limiter, could get faster speeds but a unskilled driver could set the engine on fire. Same with Cromwell crews ripping out their limiters, got faster speeds but if they messed up at high speeds they could throw their track.
The 36* degree turret rotation is implausible. The Maybach HL230 only has a RPM limit in the 2500 range. You’re gonna have to redline the engine for a long time to rotate at 36* per second and sustain it at that RPM until the target is acquired by the gun. …problem is, no engine in the world can redline for long without breaking the engine. By the time you reach 60 degrees, the Maybach engine would fail and sputter black smoke.
@@retardcorpsman never said otherwise, it was a last ditch desperation move and an "unsanctioned" modification by crew. Suspect this is why the fires kept happening with tigers engines even after modifications were made to stop it happening, the crews wanting the option for that faster turret speed even for a second modified their tanks. Like I mentioned British tank drivers did same to the comet (wasn't the Cromwell it was comet) Cromwell crews that moved over to comet found the engine had a limiter to slow down the tank to stop it throwing tracks at high speed a lot thought screw that and ripped it out.
@@retardcorpsman you'll find stuff like that still happens today, had a work colleague who used to be in the army when British SLR was in use (semi auto FN FAL), from what he's said they were told (and from what i can remember of the convo) what made it semi auto was something that could be easily removed/flipped whatever it was. Some did it just for that option, would have had a bollocking if superiors ever found out about it.
@@retardcorpsman The engine has a volume of 23,095 cm³ (approx. 1,925 cm³ per cylinder) and a maximum output of 700 PS (690 hp, 515 kW) at 3,000 rpm. Maximum torque is 1850 Nm at 2,100 rpm. Typical output was 600 PS (592 hp, 441 kW) at 2,500 rpm. never said it wasn't redlining the engine, but that was controlled by the Gunner, not the driver.
Now all you have to do is wait for a man to take half of Europe, become an ss officer, become a commander and somehow go back to 1945, then you have some immersion
Yeah not a fan of the halo driving style in battlefield so i changed it so the triggers control acceleration and reverse and the left bumper is weapons fire and B is repair
To the person mad at the lack of accuracy I’d like to point something out (Doubt that they’ll see this but I’ll say it anyway) 1.This is a video game which unless specifically made to do so will not be historically accurate 2. Taking into consideration the PR nightmare the game had around its launch most people could guess historical accuracy was going to take a backseat. Now I understand that playing the game historically accurate can be fun and I always try to but that’s not what the game was designed to be and it is what it is.
to bad it disnt play like this originally. then people would turn the front of their damn hulls towards the enemies when fight lmao, such a pet peeve of mine to see
Admittedly, I'm not very good on foot, but put me in a tank.. I wreak absolute havoc. Can't count the number of times teams have ganged up and hunted me because they realised their tanks couldn't take me one-on-one or even two-on-one. The sheer amount of hate texts and cheating accusations i get is hilarious.
Completely shifts the way you play from twitch to strategic doesn’t it :) A lot more challenging but way more rewarding IMO. If only people could have hosted their own servers with custom settings.
I wonder what's the best battlefield game for a tiger tank and a king tiger tank just curious because I'm pretty sure world of tanks can't be the only one with awesome German tanks and Japanese tanks???
In realty the Tiger was fearsome and would probably destroy ever other vehicle 10-1 odds. Most ammo would bounce straight off a tigers armo; very fearsome indeed, until you run out of gas.
Not really. People overrate the tiger a lot like if it was a beast when it was just heavy german tank The tiger was just good because allies didn't knew where to aim to kill it. American 76mm cannons found in Shermans and Hellcats as well as the 90mm found in Pershings could easily destroy a tiger with one shot if they aimed at the driver's port (and around that area) or at the sides.
@@Westside_69 In practice, what made it so devastating was the range and crew. Defensive tiger positions is really where the horror stories come from because they can engage from longer distance without exposed artillery. This one advantage with an experienced crew is why they were so effective per body count. Tank per tank the tiger is superior; if that offset is expensive a sluggish costs then that'd up for interpretation. Man for for man the German army is the greatest land force in our history.
Range? The first tiger had a similar range to Sherman 76 tanks and the Pershing was even better at a long range. In fact, the M26 was better than the tiger in many aspects but unfortunately it got to Europe too late to show it's true power. About the long range you mentioned, i think you are confused, the panther was the true German sniper, not the tiger. And well, Germany wasn't the best because of the soldiers, but because of the officers that guided the soldiers. German army was made by normal people, like Americans and Japanese and Russians. The difference is on who is leading the army. Indeed Germany has today one of the best ground forces and the best MBTs in the world but in WW2 no, they didn't have the best armored cars. The vehicles where pretty balanced between the nations. What did make Germany be better back in WW2 was the good leadership.
@@Westside_69 it's all about experience and how thick the armor is combat. The Germans were far superior in their tankers that they could engage further away with superior defensive positions as the Tigers are too heavy to assault effectively, even the IS-2 Russian heavy tank could not successfully get close enough to engage with its massive cannon. This was the case with most mechanized warfare. The Germans were just better man for man even though they dwarfed in actual numbers. Even the junker luftwaffe planes piloted by aces had far higher kill counts because they had experience.
@@gradualpull2171 I feel like u just didn't read my comment or you are just being annoying wehraboo at this point. "mUh tIgOr is bEtTeR nO mAttEr whAt tHe trUTh iS" . You are literally repeating what you said like you are brainless.
How Battlefield presents the Tiger: SPEED, NO ARMOUR, TURRET FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT, SHELLS LIKE BASEBALLS, RELOAD LIKE AN MG SHELLS WITH 10 METERS PER SECOND SPEED how the Tiger actually was: Unreliable Decent Speed Slow Turret Heavy Armour Deadly Cannon Skilled loading time of 6-8 seconds Shell velocity of 800-1100 meters per second (No this isnt a complaint ist ment to be funny)
Since a tank could have around 5 crew members... Imagine if someone asks you to bring your friends and one uses the joystick to move the tank then another moves the camera stick and stuff like that... 2 or 3 ppl using the same controller. 🎮🤔
If you want a multicrew ww2 tank, look at games like hell let loose or post scriptum. In those games you need multiple players acting as a driver, gunner and tank commander
I wish I had your demeanor when playing, I'm yelling and cussing every time i get killed which is just part of the game, hate the peeps that lay in a dark corner all game but then again that is a strategic move, just one I hate
You know you can play game that is more realistic,fun, listens to fans AND to top it off, it dosnt ban countries IP for no reason. It’s called, post scriptom. Plus the devs are still working on the game and is getting better and better....just a suggestion. I rather play that then any BF 5
Next time you gotta add in immersive rate of fire as well.
omg I am evil. LOL
delet this
@@RangerDave never...... 😈
@@AzuraProductions and completely without HUD
@@sachschaden lol I did that before, it is actually pretty fun. Now add in first person only...
Ok I am gonna stop, Ranger Dave is gonna kill me. Lol
@@RangerDave Well, luckily to tell you. 6-7.5 RPM is the common reload speed for a tank. (roughly 7 to 8 seconds)
"Hans get the IMMERSION!" - Some German soldier
Immersion and battlefield don't go too well together sir
@@fritzy. immersive circus
Hans get the stug and also some un schnapps
👈see💥
"Fok mate they got IMMERSION" some bri ish solider
Has anyone noticed those turret rotation values are from a Tiger II?
Yea i noticed but i check wiki for confirmation and it thus show exact info for tiger 1/panzer vi.
@@Daiman01 Panzer VI is Tiger I, did you mean to say Panzer IV?
@@yeraymonzon6338 I dont think the Panzer IV had that slow of a Turret Rotation.
@@eastgermant-72m1mbt5 I don't know where you're getting at, I never talked about a Pz IV being slow? Also one Pz IV did have slow turret traverse, the J variant.
@@eastgermant-72m1mbt5 they all were dependant on engine revs, not 100% certain why but I suspect unlike allies who used hydraulics to turn their turrets which could run off battery power needed for operation, the Germans probably had an electric motor powered directly from the engine (could confirm this if I can find out if they were forced to turn it manually with engine off). Advantage is Germans if they revved up their engines in neutral could easily out turn allied turrets especially with tiger having neutral steering, downside is it would be loud giving away position and engine immobilised = hand cranking.
It would have driven me completely nuts doing this for god knows how long hahaha
Haha my face after getting rolled so fast by those light tanks was basically :O
I mean this was the problem with the Tiger (Other than the transmission) Most any fast tank such a Cromwell or some version of the Sherman could charge it get to the side or rear and kill it. If the Tiger’s turret alone really turned this fast I’m pretty sure it would have gotten many more tallies than it did.
Try Hell Let Loose
The turret is frustrating and yet it's fun
@@englishcrashingpilot5769 Except irl tank engagments were at fairly long range, and even when not, tanks weren't usually on their own so this idea of charging a tiger to outrun its turret speed is ridiculous and suicidal. One of the other tanks or AT guns accompanying it would knock you out
Basically warthunder
once the enemy does a sneaky on you, you are definitely fricked
All I can hear are Hauptmann Voss from CoH yelling combat lines from the Tiger 205 campaign lol
“Kanone Loaded!”
“Panzermotor to 450 PS.”
“*coughing* Round up, round up!”
Oh my God, yes! "Get rid of that verdammten Panzer!"
I had played a Sherman and Tiger tank in Hell Let Loose
The turret turns so slow that everyone freaks out when the enemies are coming
When I became the driver I knew I need to help the gunner out so I turned the tank directly towards where the gunner is aiming
We got so many kills acting like a Stug/Jagdpanzer
Driver: "Look at me. I am the turret now."
@@MansMan42069 strv 103 enters the chat
I read that the turret rotation of the Tiger was notoriously slow however the panzer "Ace" Michael Wittmann employed a "cheat" of a kind!!! He originally became an ace on the eastern front commanding a StuG(I don't remember which model)! So the StuG main gun has no turret and has only 14 degrees of lateral movement! So to engage a target outside of your scope you would have to direct the driver to steer right or left while standing still! The book I read claimed this is the method he adopted when he became commander of a Tiger! There are however 2 draw backs...if the driver jerks too hard it's hard to compensate, so it takes practice! Also IRL it could cause you to throw a track depending on the terrain!
dont forget the tiger turret rotation speed was linked to the engines rpm.
so its slowest was 6* a second and at the highest engine limited was 19*s but if you didnt have a engine limit it was 36* a second.
realistically you can have a turret move that quickly.
@@Thekilleroftanks The good old "Hans get rid of the limiter the tank is doomed anyways"
I'm sorry but no, the tiger's turret rotation wasn't "notoriously slow", it was very normal at that time (1940s tanks) and almost every tank had a similar turret rotation. Some versions of the panther had a even slower turret rotation.
@@Westside_69 Panther D, for example had a rotation as fast as the first Panzer IIIs. At 1.8km? Good, Close quarters? Dead.
@@yeraymonzon6338 that's kinda what I said?
I tried removing the HUD, playing hardcore and using realistic movements to make a fan BF5 trailer and it was HARD. The most annoying part was finding the objectives bc everyone else could see them while I’m sitting there trying to figure who my teammates are lol. I will admit it looked pretty cool but I ended up cancelling the project thanks to the lack of a capture card. Love the video RD, should do more like this if you can!
Actually you can increase the turret spinning speed by rotating your tank too
5:15
👈see💥
That I did in Hell Let Loose
@@guts-141 same works in enlisted too
You can edit it to move "true" forward - in relation to the tank - the control editing (and all the other edits to HUD) is so awesome in this game!
👈see💥
Ryw little kids specialize in there I
Just saying, even tho it wasn't advised "good tank drivers" turned the tank on the same time to speed on the process, risking losing a track or worse in the process
Tiger couldn't traverse the turret and the hull at the same time, thus why most Tigers were used from 500 meters on.
@@yeraymonzon6338 It could, look at Michael Wittmann, he would neutral steer his tiger while turning the turret.
It would put a huge strain on the gearbox but he was very successful together with his gunner Balthasar “Bobby” Woll who was also famous for accurately aiming the gun while driving without any stabilizer
@@Nausal I mean it worked for wittmann because he knew what he was doing, but usually it would only cause the tiger to break. Thus why it couldn't be done unless you knew how to do it beforehand.
@@yeraymonzon6338 but you said it couldn't :) I also said it wasn't advised
@@Nausal Given only a very very few handful did it if not just one it is considered it can't be done on regular standards. That is why even though one person survived a 10km fall no parachute from a plane without injuries, it is still considered impossible to survive it. Only because one or two did it doesn't mean it can be done. Saying something can be done means everyone can do it.
Hanz, get me 2000 RPM!
Ok
Ok
Ja, kommadant
@@Ak92029 ok
@@elmarston6637 ok
Slows turret down
>Game automatically stabilizes turret to where you're aiming while hull is traversing
Yet the Tiger doesn't stand a chance against the M3 or a stolen Puma because it can definitely drive around the Tiger faster than the turret spins. It is really awesome. You need to try it
The Puma was awesome. BFV had a lot of issues but I thoroughly enjoyed the tanks for the most part.
But it can, if the driver turns the whole tank with the turret spin to hit the target
@@sam8404 dogfight is awesome too, you should try to fly planes
As you said, coupled rotation would be more immersive haha. Good work though!
Battlefield : has a lot of realistic vehicles, aircrafts, guns etc
Call of duty : Imma gonna spam some unrealistic sh**
Battlefield realistic? You must be joking
@@OfficialRapMV Hey, it’s at least more realistic than COD. Which isn’t saying much but still.
Hanz load zee armor piercing. Also love the content Dave !
I enjoyed this video more than I think I should have, makes me miss the HLL videos
Also of note is all the tanks in BFV behave as if they're stabilised, when that feature wouldn't become standard on tanks until the 70s; the gun maintains direction as you rotate the hull, and will remain level as you drive, brake, and go over bumps. IRL the gun would be completely unusable in motion, and you would have to wait 1-2 seconds after stopping for the entire tank to stop rocking in order to fire.
Appreciate the shoutout bruther, nice video!
Edit: I’m not complaining however, when u looked on Wikipedia you saw the statistics for the tiger 2 which had a much slower traverse than the tiger 1 so you kinda forced yourself to use a worse version of the tigers rotation speed XD still did fantastically tho
There's 3 types of tiger users in BFV.
-The ones who think the tank makes them God and die upon leaving spawn to a squad of assault guys with comms.
-The ones who never leave spawn and spend the match trying to snipe with it but get nothing done minus a few hits
-Then there's "hard-core tankers" who join with a 4 man +, got comms, and move objective to objective as a group getting s**t done.
But on the real, tanks in BFV are BROKEN, turret speeds are ridiculous, hearing footsteps while inside the tank is ridiculous, and being able to hit speed within 2 seconds of accelerating it totally BS.
The ones who never leave spawn infuriates me. The infantry is getting wiped on the Frontline and getting no support, whilst the cowards uselessly preserve their tanks.
Get out give the tanks to those of us that know how to put it to use.
@@carlpedro8427 I'm not buying BF 2042 if they keep up the spawn boundaries. I want to go back to BFBC2 where you couldn't camp a base because the opponent would just walk up in the base and kill.
If they lock the enemy base as out of bounds and basically invite tank camping bases AGAIN I'm not buying. Too much frustration from that bull.
In all honesty I'm with the guy who brought it up, it's balances out the strength of tanks with a weakness....that is what reality does everything has a price. Add more armour, the heavier you are, the heavier you are the slower things are. And that is why tigers tended to be used at long range rather than up close where the sher man and t-34s could out manoeuvre them. That and armour works better the further away you are when shell penetrating power drops off as it slows down
4:30 with the greyhound whipping around the tiger it's St. Vith all over again
Played a private server one night of Conquest. The mod chose no 3rd person view for the vehicles. Holy crap that was hard in a Tiger on PanzerStorm. Your looking thru this little slot only the whole game. Did fairly well that game though.
you ever play enlisted? its always 1st person even with the vehicles
This was fun to watch! But what I really got out of this.. just enjoy the game.. if guy wants immersion with the Tiger 1 tank, have his guy start it up with the crankshaft handle before taking off to battle.. and take it for a car wash and an oil change while he’s at it
Just play War Thunder for that, except you don't get to crankshaft it although I wish I could, but for the rest quite accurate. An absolute unit if you use it well.
i bought battlefield 5 a week ago, i need to play it more though, but im just absolutely terrible at competitive pvp, like i only have 4 kills in total
The more you play more you get better my best k/d was 66-18 but you should also watch people on TH-cam playing bf5 so you can learn some stuff.
i will heed your advice
I mean we’re all terrible at any game at some point, you just gotta keep trying and have fun
It's not you its lag,hackers,broken controller,sun in your eyes
@@OmnikTWR I would advise you to try out the combined arms gamemode in order to get a feel for the game, after that... well good luck, you’re pretty much on your own.
If you do other tanks then what you can do is turn your hull to help quickly turn your turret to correspond with aiming it helped a lot in real life
"War Thunder would like to know your location."
I want to see this dude try playing the tiger1 in warthunder
Hans! He got another video. Yeah. He's playing the realistic Tiger.
The best way to take out a tiger, get behind it
Best actual way to take out a Tiger. IT'S 1943 USE A FUCKING 76MM IT RIPS THROUGH IT AT 1KM xD
Or a Bazooka, it pens 200mm of armor
You used the Tiger IIs turret speed, still a good video tho
I thought that looked a bit fast for a Tiger 1. I'm used to the one from War Thunder being slower.
that was early tigers traverse speed, later varients of the tiger were much faster
edit: depending on how much power you set the engine to, either 19 degrees a second, or at full power 36 degrees a second.
Next realistic challenge for the Sherman? I might change the settings and keep them on permanently. 🧐
9:59 you can also change the sticks in settings but you probably saw that with the hull lock settings.
My boy the stats you pulled up was for the TIGER 2 WHAAAAT
Let’s gooo I’ve been so bored and now you’ve uploaded, let’s go.
Not truly immersive, your transmission lasted the whole game without dying and you never threw a track link ahaha
Thats all cool and all but next time you have to drive in an immersive way 👀👀👀
Dude, I love watching you play battlefield 5. You make me want to play, but when I get in I f##### suck!!!!!!
I get killed more than I kill.
Dat reloading speed tho xD
It would be to have a friend with you as your gunner/spotter
Can i ask? Tiger in battlefield is Tiger H1? Or Tiger E? There is diference Just in the armor and MG34 on the hatch xd
You could’ve used the hull traverse to take that jeep. You turn the tank hull in the direction of the target.
"Tiger 2 Wikipedia" You're using a Tiger 1
Yep but the II's two lower tier speeds apply to the I as well (say that 10 times fast!)
@@RangerDave Couldn’t dream of it lol. Never knew the King Tiger and Tiger 1 had similar rotation speeds at lower RPM’s
@@kino_Kk thats because all late war german tanks had their rotation speed linked directly to the engines rpm.
and seeing how most german tanks at that time had a rpm limiter on them most had the same turning rate.
but the tiger 1 could have its limiter removed and you can crank that engine all the way to 3000rpm and make that turret move.
@@Thekilleroftanks Thanks for the knowledge
Man was reading about the tiger II not the tiger I, it’s a different model of tiger.
Meanwhile us world of warships players:
*turning cannons at 5° a second lmao*
the tiger turret didnt turn that slow really it depended on how fast the gunner could turn the turret or how good the turret rotation was on average for a tank (also why did someone complain about a battlefield game being realistic)
The people who complain probably never picked up a game in Thier life. And expect it to be similar to real life.
@@subjectc7505 I like realism but i dont search it on battlefield xD. One thing they got right is the MG42.... damn brother. I got the Wehrmacht winter coat with the gloves and the Stahlhelm with the german shield, the MG42 with the 250 rounds belt, P38, shovel, impact nade, and some AT mines. Finally some good fucking food, it scares the shit out of people
Homi u looked up a tiger II not a tiger I
Imagine BF5 with a war thunder pen system
that was early tigers traverse speed, later varients of the tiger were much faster
depending on how much power you set the engine to, either 19 degrees a second at 2000 rpm, or 36 degrees a second at 3000 rpm.
The 36 number wasn't a tiger improvement it was the crew disengaging the engine limiter, could get faster speeds but a unskilled driver could set the engine on fire. Same with Cromwell crews ripping out their limiters, got faster speeds but if they messed up at high speeds they could throw their track.
The 36* degree turret rotation is implausible.
The Maybach HL230 only has a RPM limit in the 2500 range. You’re gonna have to redline the engine for a long time to rotate at 36* per second and sustain it at that RPM until the target is acquired by the gun.
…problem is, no engine in the world can redline for long without breaking the engine. By the time you reach 60 degrees, the Maybach engine would fail and sputter black smoke.
@@retardcorpsman never said otherwise, it was a last ditch desperation move and an "unsanctioned" modification by crew. Suspect this is why the fires kept happening with tigers engines even after modifications were made to stop it happening, the crews wanting the option for that faster turret speed even for a second modified their tanks. Like I mentioned British tank drivers did same to the comet (wasn't the Cromwell it was comet) Cromwell crews that moved over to comet found the engine had a limiter to slow down the tank to stop it throwing tracks at high speed a lot thought screw that and ripped it out.
@@retardcorpsman you'll find stuff like that still happens today, had a work colleague who used to be in the army when British SLR was in use (semi auto FN FAL), from what he's said they were told (and from what i can remember of the convo) what made it semi auto was something that could be easily removed/flipped whatever it was. Some did it just for that option, would have had a bollocking if superiors ever found out about it.
@@retardcorpsman The engine has a volume of 23,095 cm³ (approx. 1,925 cm³ per cylinder) and a maximum output of 700 PS (690 hp, 515 kW) at 3,000 rpm. Maximum torque is 1850 Nm at 2,100 rpm. Typical output was 600 PS (592 hp, 441 kW) at 2,500 rpm. never said it wasn't redlining the engine, but that was controlled by the Gunner, not the driver.
Bro i love you videos keep it up bro
Now all you have to do is wait for a man to take half of Europe, become an ss officer, become a commander and somehow go back to 1945, then you have some immersion
Been playing like this since launch lol
You can use your steering to help the transversing turret reach the target.
Ahh, just now i reached the point where you said there's an option for this but was turned off
Yeah not a fan of the halo driving style in battlefield so i changed it so the triggers control acceleration and reverse and the left bumper is weapons fire and B is repair
Next video you should do tiger with broken transmission by stuffing C4 on your engine or something
Really enjoyed this videos keep posting videos pls
If you wanted to get that truck, you could have neutral steared to turn faster.
Sick gameplay dude!
To the person mad at the lack of accuracy I’d like to point something out
(Doubt that they’ll see this but I’ll say it anyway)
1.This is a video game which unless specifically made to do so will not be historically accurate
2. Taking into consideration the PR nightmare the game had around its launch most people could guess historical accuracy was going to take a backseat.
Now I understand that playing the game historically accurate can be fun and I always try to but that’s not what the game was designed to be and it is what it is.
I can accept that, just don't throw me mad max shit on the face and tell me it's a "true and immersive experience" on the teaser xD
will be Tiger tanks in bf Portal maps?
Me a wt veteran= lol first time? Have you ever consider rotating your hull with the turret?
to bad it disnt play like this originally. then people would turn the front of their damn hulls towards the enemies when fight lmao, such a pet peeve of mine to see
Admittedly, I'm not very good on foot, but put me in a tank.. I wreak absolute havoc. Can't count the number of times teams have ganged up and hunted me because they realised their tanks couldn't take me one-on-one or even two-on-one.
The sheer amount of hate texts and cheating accusations i get is hilarious.
no matter how skilled you are in a tank, nothing can stop a few assault players
Completely shifts the way you play from twitch to strategic doesn’t it :)
A lot more challenging but way more rewarding IMO.
If only people could have hosted their own servers with custom settings.
Dude that initiate this challenge must play War Thunder lol
ranger how do you drop bombs all at once on planes
We gotta make sure he adds Immersive rate of fire and loading
u should play Hell let loose. tank gameplay in that is insane
Are the planes also players?
I wonder what's the best battlefield game for a tiger tank and a king tiger tank just curious because I'm pretty sure world of tanks can't be the only one with awesome German tanks and Japanese tanks???
Forgotten Hope 2.
Until the games horizontal stabilisation kicks in xP 5:30 nvm
Feels good though. Warthunder will less armour and the missing infantry :D
In realty the Tiger was fearsome and would probably destroy ever other vehicle 10-1 odds. Most ammo would bounce straight off a tigers armo; very fearsome indeed, until you run out of gas.
Not really. People overrate the tiger a lot like if it was a beast when it was just heavy german tank
The tiger was just good because allies didn't knew where to aim to kill it. American 76mm cannons found in Shermans and Hellcats as well as the 90mm found in Pershings could easily destroy a tiger with one shot if they aimed at the driver's port (and around that area) or at the sides.
@@Westside_69 In practice, what made it so devastating was the range and crew. Defensive tiger positions is really where the horror stories come from because they can engage from longer distance without exposed artillery. This one advantage with an experienced crew is why they were so effective per body count. Tank per tank the tiger is superior; if that offset is expensive a sluggish costs then that'd up for interpretation.
Man for for man the German army is the greatest land force in our history.
Range? The first tiger had a similar range to Sherman 76 tanks and the Pershing was even better at a long range. In fact, the M26 was better than the tiger in many aspects but unfortunately it got to Europe too late to show it's true power. About the long range you mentioned, i think you are confused, the panther was the true German sniper, not the tiger.
And well, Germany wasn't the best because of the soldiers, but because of the officers that guided the soldiers. German army was made by normal people, like Americans and Japanese and Russians. The difference is on who is leading the army. Indeed Germany has today one of the best ground forces and the best MBTs in the world but in WW2 no, they didn't have the best armored cars. The vehicles where pretty balanced between the nations. What did make Germany be better back in WW2 was the good leadership.
@@Westside_69 it's all about experience and how thick the armor is combat. The Germans were far superior in their tankers that they could engage further away with superior defensive positions as the Tigers are too heavy to assault effectively, even the IS-2 Russian heavy tank could not successfully get close enough to engage with its massive cannon. This was the case with most mechanized warfare. The Germans were just better man for man even though they dwarfed in actual numbers. Even the junker luftwaffe planes piloted by aces had far higher kill counts because they had experience.
@@gradualpull2171 I feel like u just didn't read my comment or you are just being annoying wehraboo at this point. "mUh tIgOr is bEtTeR nO mAttEr whAt tHe trUTh iS" . You are literally repeating what you said like you are brainless.
How Battlefield presents the Tiger: SPEED, NO ARMOUR, TURRET FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT, SHELLS LIKE BASEBALLS, RELOAD LIKE AN MG
SHELLS WITH 10 METERS PER SECOND SPEED
how the Tiger actually was:
Unreliable
Decent Speed
Slow Turret
Heavy Armour
Deadly Cannon
Skilled loading time of 6-8 seconds
Shell velocity of 800-1100 meters per second
(No this isnt a complaint ist ment to be funny)
They can complain all they want but i won't listen to a person that cant even set-up a pfp
Pro tip, turn your turret and turn tank at the same time
Really interesting game
Since a tank could have around 5 crew members... Imagine if someone asks you to bring your friends and one uses the joystick to move the tank then another moves the camera stick and stuff like that... 2 or 3 ppl using the same controller. 🎮🤔
If you want a multicrew ww2 tank, look at games like hell let loose or post scriptum. In those games you need multiple players acting as a driver, gunner and tank commander
13:07 lmao, name of the guy in the jeep😄
I wish I had your demeanor when playing, I'm yelling and cussing every time i get killed which is just part of the game, hate the peeps that lay in a dark corner all game but then again that is a strategic move, just one I hate
turn your tank to
-Hanz Art of traverse speed
"First time?"
- Warthunder and Arma III players probably
1:52 LOL
Simulate the tiger 1 breaking down
Why not play enlisted?
Have you ever heard of world of tanks or war thunder? Cause thoes were definatly released before bf5 and have limited turret turn
New challenge. Kill 10 enemy with one life medic class no sniper weapon
You ever try tanking in enlisted? It's stupid fun and easy more realistic then bf 5
You know you can play game that is more realistic,fun, listens to fans AND to top it off, it dosnt ban countries IP for no reason.
It’s called, post scriptom. Plus the devs are still working on the game and is getting better and better....just a suggestion.
I rather play that then any BF 5
It's like Immersion does not equal fun
That wiki was on the king tiger not the tiger 1
should have turned off hud to get the full immersion
ARE YOU IMMERSED YET, BUCKAROO??
*transmission breaks down*
When are the DayZ vids. coming back?
One guy raging about turret rotation and historical accuracy
War Thunder Ground RB players : *pathetic*
Bro play Enlisted. The tanks move that way on standard.
War Thunder as well, which isn’t surprising seeing as it’s made by the same people.
@shaggy ultra instinct it has the same tank physics tho, to an extent
Fuck so frustrating lol
Where is king tiger? And panther?
This reeks of a Joel challenge lol
anyone else notice he pulled up the tiger 2 page instead of the tiger 1
Thats what i said