Stranded or not? What's the status of astronauts on Boeing's Starliner?

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  • Are they stuck? Stranded? Will SpaceX have to rescue Butch and Suni?
    These questions are flooding my feed.
    The current status of Boeing's Starliner is being widely discussed and HOW you describe the delayed return might get you in hot water!
    So, here's what we know based on the chronological timeline and the current situation up at the ISS.
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  • @ross077
    @ross077 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    Thanks Ellie, this is the top-notch, factual and even-handed journalism that we've all come to expect of you.

    • @jcassel61
      @jcassel61 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Such stupid oversight issues that sound like nobody got a work order. What else is going on that the workers let it go, knowing they did nothing wrong waiting for a work order? Beurocracy. The CEO is an accountant. Also, the whistle blowers and safety issues. Disgruntled workers feeling handcuffed to the point of letting something go. Blame to no work order and inspectors.

  • @gregkelly2145
    @gregkelly2145 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    Better 'Stuckliner' than 'Flatliner'!

    • @douginorlando6260
      @douginorlando6260 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Or Fireball liner if more thrusters fail

    • @douginorlando6260
      @douginorlando6260 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      How about Russian Roulette liner?

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      It the Boeing way now! Delay after delay and delay! Doing a good job? $4.2 billion!😂

    • @w13rdguy
      @w13rdguy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      "Pocket liner"

    • @brianfoltz9736
      @brianfoltz9736 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      StarLeaker!

  • @dancobb118
    @dancobb118 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    I think Starliner will bring them home. I certainly hope they are safe. If anything happens on the way back, Boeing is done.

    • @jimle22
      @jimle22 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yea, Boeing will try to bring them home. They will probably be succsessful, I hope. If they have to call on SpaceX for a rescue mission NAS and Boeing will lose so much face they will have to leave the spacecraft manufacturing business to commercial contractors.

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Idk why Boeing failing is NASA’s fault. Why would it be embarrassing for NASA when Boeing and Bigelow Aerospace built Starliner. This would be like blaming NASA every time a space X rockets explodes.

    • @Relkond
      @Relkond 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well, there's bringing them home... planets are kind of big and hard to miss. Then there's getting them back alive... which will depend at least some on the thrusters. And bringing them back on target, which will require more active use of the thrusters to steer the vehicle.

    • @theodorebedard6429
      @theodorebedard6429 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      its 100% better if spacex sends dragon up to take them home, then the possibility the starliner doesn't bring the crew home. space is dangerous and there is no place for pride when it comes to human lives.

    • @stevengoard9352
      @stevengoard9352 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed, 2 lives dont need to be needlessly risked for Boeing's pride, they're years behind the target​ and way over budget@@theodorebedard6429

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    I would NOT want to come home in that thing, it has way too many issues, and they never should have gone up in it.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They are test pilots. They have a ton of experience with partially working vehicles. Those two are experts at judging risk so don’t expect things to be perfect.
      It will be interesting to see the final report in a year. If they decide they can fly this ship home or if they get a space Uber.

    • @awesomefeldmanfamily
      @awesomefeldmanfamily 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I definitely agree I also wouldn't have gone up on it to begin with.

    • @PDZ1122
      @PDZ1122 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're speaking as a qualified spacecraft engineer, I assume?

    • @Denzamusic
      @Denzamusic 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@PDZ1122 No. You do not need to be a space engineer to see wtf is going on. When a manned mission is ongoing, there shouldn't be any helium leaks and thruster problem , where 4 or 5 thrusters stopped working for a moment, I much lower orbit happened because of that.
      In test flights it can happen. But you do not have a test space flight with humans. This is to many errors for a company that always lying and making up things when windows falls off boeing airplanes.
      Boeing is a company with 1 goal. Make money and more money. Space x actually cares about safety and Elon musk have a dream about Mars with his entire team.boeing does not.

    • @iseiyoulaitre
      @iseiyoulaitre 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      After noticing poor quality issues with their aircraft I can agree with you.

  • @davenz000
    @davenz000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    At least the door didn't fall off.

    • @SteichenFamily
      @SteichenFamily 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Yes it did! 0:32

    • @kurtgain2978
      @kurtgain2978 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You meant it "didn't fall off" AGAIN!

    • @calebfuller4713
      @calebfuller4713 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@SteichenFamily Wait WTF!?! That happened, just driving it along the road? I never heard about that...

    • @SillySausage-mq3so
      @SillySausage-mq3so วันที่ผ่านมา

      Front :)

    • @dvone4124
      @dvone4124 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SteichenFamily And NOBODY in the motorcade noticed, so they all just kept going like normal. Perhaps to Boeing workers, it was!

  • @gnxpross1
    @gnxpross1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Windows and or doors exploding off the ship while being towed before launch, is not a major concern at this time.

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yep.....as Boeing says "All of this is going according to plan and we think everything is going well!"
      As they try to assure everyone that this plan is giving them plenty of time to assess the leaks and fixes. Like.....how many spare parts and Starliner engineers are on the ISS that can go out physically in space walks and address physical repairs if everything cannot be rectified via software patches? I think this is why no returns have been formally announced. If software patches, alone, would have fixed the issues.....they'd be back by now.
      I saw an article the other day that mentioned that even though mission managers knew in advance about helium links, they assumed it would not jeopardize the safety or mission objectives. Perhaps I could get a job at NASA or Boeing as a mission manager.....im really good at "assuming" also!

  • @Jim-nt7xy
    @Jim-nt7xy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    If it's Boeing, I ain't Going.

    • @tonywilson4713
      @tonywilson4713 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You forgot to add the word "anywhere" to the end of that.

  • @grumblewoof4721
    @grumblewoof4721 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +100

    They have been up there so long that NASA are considering charging them rent.

    • @Wi2Low
      @Wi2Low 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Ouch. The rent is sky high 🤣

    • @ginagina5452
      @ginagina5452 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      😂😂😂

    • @liamprincetech
      @liamprincetech 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@Wi2Low It's astronomical

    • @Starshipsforever
      @Starshipsforever 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why? For their own astronauts? I can't even believe Ellie liked this. This was all part of the planning for possible mission extension.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@Starshipsforever Better watch out Ellie, I think you just made agent 747 mad.

  • @colinmackie5211
    @colinmackie5211 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    I reckon the space station will be retired before star liner demonstrates a clean round trip which i think is needed before certification

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Sad but possibly true.

    • @tonybrock5288
      @tonybrock5288 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Maybe they'll leave Starliner docked till then? Then it can also burn up when they deorbit the ISS.

    • @user-cz5kd7mw4h
      @user-cz5kd7mw4h 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      У вас нет сердца .😢

    • @colinmackie5211
      @colinmackie5211 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tonybrock5288 yes that was my thinking also

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      let's hope those 2 stranded will not go down with the ISS

  • @w13rdguy
    @w13rdguy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    What's really scandalous is that Starliner was allowed to fly at all, with two astronauts on board. It's not ready.

    • @kiwidiesel
      @kiwidiesel 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      As it's partially reusable then it's partially ready😂

  • @ravindransomasundaram1810
    @ravindransomasundaram1810 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    First bring back the two astronauts by using another rescue vehicle. Let the starliner return to earth unmanned.

  • @ahchx861
    @ahchx861 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    nowadays Boeing is SO LUCKY to be a government supported/subsidized company, as a private one would be bankrupted by now.

  • @Scotty_AU
    @Scotty_AU 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I hope Butch remembered his shaver, hes going to look like a caveman after being stuck up there for so long

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Didn’t you know hair doesn’t grow in zero gravity.

    • @Scotch20
      @Scotch20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ecospider5 I don't think I trust that study

    • @woodym2
      @woodym2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can only imagine loose whiskers and shaving cream floating around the station in zero gravity.

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I can see the astronauts thinking about the issues, with one of them saying: "I knew we should have upgraded to business class".

    • @hnlmike3589
      @hnlmike3589 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Govt ticket .. no business class allowed 😂

  • @DaveInPA2010
    @DaveInPA2010 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    That was a good analysis Ellie.
    I think I’ve mentioned something about this before but as a sidenote, in your ending bumper appeal for subscribers and even Patreon so that you can live the life you want to live, think of your viewers. They are struggling to live the kind of lives **they** want to live.
    I would strongly recommend rephrasing that to say “so that I can take you to these places “or “we got to go see and do the things that you want to do, and get answers to the questions that you are asking”
    A good manager will take the blame themselves but always praise the people on their team first.
    In the same way you want to emphasize in this form of journalism that you are acting as the hands and feet and eyes and ears of your viewers, and you disappear into the background.

    • @liamprincetech
      @liamprincetech 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I agree. Don't let the message make it about yourself, let the message reflect how funding will allow your audience to experience more/better content. An audience won't want to just pay for you to have a wonderful lifestyle - they're paying for a product that they want to consume. It's outwardly subtle but actually subliminally negative to hear what you said at the end there.

  • @C-mm751
    @C-mm751 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I think Boeing's best days are over, you can see it in aviation too. Thank God for SpaceX.

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Oh and BTW, great reporting Ellie.

  • @0x8badbeef
    @0x8badbeef 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    If you had a SpaceX engineers look at Boeing's design they are likely to conclude Boeing's design is overly complicated. A Boeing engineer told me if you were to look at all the paperwork that went into building one of their planes the amount of paperwork would fill that plane. What this leads to is no one person knows how it all works.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There are very few billion dollar projects that can fit in a single person’s head. That is why technical project managers are so important. They are supposed to be able to tell when an engineer is speaking BS. I definitely feel Boeing has lost that skillset within their teams. Which is to bad. 30 years ago they were one of the only companies that could actually manage that. Not any more.
      So, what you said but just from a slightly different point of view.

    • @davidarnold3318
      @davidarnold3318 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@ecospider5 the problem is that now the tail wags the dog: instead of technical correctness trumping all other considerations the bean counters are overruling safety requirements. That is the problem plain and simple. Wrong focus of control.

    • @0x8badbeef
      @0x8badbeef 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ecospider5 all the technical managers care about is covering their ass long enough to make it to retirement.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ecospider5 When you move your upper management and executives more than 1,000 miles away, the mice will play.

    • @cageordie
      @cageordie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That may have been true in the past, but not now. Boeing has cut much of the process out, or has gutted it to save money in the short term. Destroying the engineering process, for a quick profit, has caused massive costs. The 787 development was estimated at $10 billion and cost $34 billion by the time they were delivering production aircraft at a loss. Then the bad cheap design led to the aircraft being grounded and deliveries stopped, more billions down the pan. The MAX crashes we caused by cheap outsourced software doing something that people who don't know aircraft didn't know was bad, more tens of billions down the pan. Boeing can't get the 777-X, 737 MAX 10, 737 MAX 7, or Starliner signed off. This is not because they are being too careful.

  • @fellixx11
    @fellixx11 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Excellent report as always. What really chaps me about this whole situation is that Boeing lobbied HARD to exclude SpaceX from commercial crew. Had they been successful, we would still be buying rides from Russia. Given the world situation, how much do you think those rides would have cost? No doubt that building spacecraft is hard work but Boeing needs to get out of its own way and stop letting the accountants run the show.

    • @johnarnold893
      @johnarnold893 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boeing also needs to return some of that 4.3 billion they scammed the taxpayers for. SpaceX only got 2.6 billion and they've been launching successfully for years now leaving Boeing in the dust.

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And SpaceX built their repeatedly successful crew craft on a much smaller budget than Boeing did!

  • @0x8badbeef
    @0x8badbeef 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    0:30 Boeing also is known for having problems keeping their doors closed.

    • @jimle22
      @jimle22 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @0.34 if you go back and look, something did fall off the window while being towed to the hanger.

    • @Starshipsforever
      @Starshipsforever 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jimle22 That is a bit of a lie. It was back in 2022 while being take to SLC41 and it was a plastic protective cover for the window that would've been take off at the pad.

    • @MrScottgp
      @MrScottgp วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't worry that isn't part of the "partially reusable" section

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let's just call it an "open door policy"!

  • @jackeppington6488
    @jackeppington6488 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    + about 6 hrs since Ellie's post: I hope you are following the NASA JSC ISS presser - reporters are pressing hard about the lack of daily info as well as the vague testing. And NASA is clearly annoyed about words like "stranded." Yet they will NOT commit to an end of testing and a return to earth for Suni and Butch.

  • @codedlogic
    @codedlogic 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I think these astronauts are going to have PTSD. Suit failures on their space walk. Having to shelter in place after Russian satellite blows up. Failed thrusters. Leaking helium. 8 years of delay. Are these guys cursed or what?

    • @calebfuller4713
      @calebfuller4713 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      At any moment, Q is likely to show up and give them some random challenge!

  • @garyepaul2085
    @garyepaul2085 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Nice to have someone provide a neutral report on the situation. As long as decisions are driven by the crew and engineers and not management, I have confidence in the safety of the crew. I think, however, Boeing has a while to go to get the confidence of everyone.

  • @jeremyfarmer2502
    @jeremyfarmer2502 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I do believe nasa is trying to save face with starliner. In my opinion, they should give SS dream chaser the money to develop the crew version and drop boing. It may take a little longer to develop crew dream chaser but it will be better in the long run

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would not in the least bit be surprised if Sierra Space has a Crew Emergency Return interior ready to bolt in to the Cargo version they're due to test fly soon, or can send the tools and instructions up, to pull the seats from Starliner and fit to Dream Chaser. The only issue to get past first, is Dream Chaser hasn't passed it first flight test yet either, but is on schedule to do so. Fast tracking the paperwork side of that should be a NASA priority, so the tests can be focused on.

    • @Wi2Low
      @Wi2Low 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There is exactly ZERO justification for spending even one more taxpayer dollar on a redundant, unnecessary crew launch system.
      Falcon 9 is already the most reliable, cheapest, safest, highest volume system in human history. Adding anything adds nothing but waste and danger.

    • @TimothyLipinski
      @TimothyLipinski 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great Comment ! The Dream Chaser is not a Nazi program ! The Dream Chaser is a program of Sierra Space and once the seven contracted Cargo missions are completed the Cargo Dream Chaser will be FREE to UP-Grade to the Crew Dream Chaser ! tjl

    • @isakoqv
      @isakoqv 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Wi2Low There is plenty of justification for securing supply by ensuring there is more than one option. No matter how safe falcon 9 or dragon is if there is ever an accident involving either system they will have to ground it until the issue has been identified and resolved. There is also a financial risk in sticking with a single supplier as nothing is stopping SpaceX from raising prices to their liking as long as they have a monopoly.

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Exactly. Having all your eggs in one basket is too risky. Even if that basket is a really good basket.

  • @joshmumpower4077
    @joshmumpower4077 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Great factional reporting thank you ellie

    • @conbrio27
      @conbrio27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Factual

  • @isaacplaysbass8568
    @isaacplaysbass8568 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Given that the engine issues are with the service module, which is jettisoned before re-entry, and therefore can't be examined afterwards, it makes TOTAL sense to perform all due diligence to test and examine the state of the Starliner engines "at leisure" whilst the crew are at the station.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Logical. Almost as much as making sure it worked before launching it.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PiDsPagePrototypes It was tested and did work prior to launch. But it wasn't tested in the harsh conditions of orbit.

    • @supercadet111
      @supercadet111 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@UncleKennysPlace Yes it was. That's what the unmanned mission that previously launched was for. However, it appears they need new metrics for testing before manned missions.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@UncleKennysPlace Did they never put it in NASA's giant Vacuum chamber???

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes.....and I believe I read somewhere that there's enough crew provisions on the space station for crew to stay six months.....so why not take that full time to assess and test the Starliner for its return home?

  • @c0t1
    @c0t1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    "Strandliner". Oh my!

    • @ginagina5452
      @ginagina5452 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂😂😂

  • @bubbax1115
    @bubbax1115 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Remember that time a Dragon capsule was stuck and couldn't safely leave and a second capsule had to be sent?
    Me neither.

  • @lorencehill5724
    @lorencehill5724 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did you forget the 61 original recommendations? 27 were classified as “mandatory” to resolve before the next mission, 13 were “highly recommended” to resolve before the next flight, and the other 21 were considered a lower priority. Of the additional 19 recommendations, 15 were considered mandatory and 1 highly recommended.

  • @pilotdawn1661
    @pilotdawn1661 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Excellent, factual report.

  • @Sam_Saraguy
    @Sam_Saraguy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I'll remain skeptical until someone explains why it is taking so long for the engineers to "study the problem." It's been three weeks already.

    • @woodym2
      @woodym2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In what universe do studies not require time? What is your big rush?

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the delay is because nasa doesn't feel like the starliner is capable of a safe return. I believe they are hoping they can fix the pos so they do not have to return the astronauts on a SpaceX or Russian craft. Boeings future is in the balance.

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@woodym2when nasa says " study" what they really mean is the craft isn't capable of returning the astronauts alive and nasa hopes it can fix the issues so SpaceX or the Russians aren't needed.

  • @bartdw6807
    @bartdw6807 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    That's journalism right there! Good job!

  • @timwood6115
    @timwood6115 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It’s good that you pointed out that the astronauts are not in any danger. NASA should let the astronauts stay on the ISS and send the Starliner back to Earth without the crew. I have a bad feeling about this situation. It has the ingredients for disaster because there is the potential for politics to influence a technical decision. Boeing and NASA would look bad if they send Starliner back to Earth without a crew. Is there any way to find out if NASA is preparing a contingency plan, such as moving up the next crew Dragon mission?

  • @MarcelVerheijden
    @MarcelVerheijden 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great vid, If your car breaks down in Chace CA you are stranded and stranded in the middle of the Mojave... if your capsule breaks down at ISS I'd say you are stranded... in the middle of literately nowhere....

  • @righteousisthelord180
    @righteousisthelord180 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Dear Lord can you imagine. It’s like asking them to take a ride on the Titan sub.

  • @jamesp5301
    @jamesp5301 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think Starliner can do the job but I also think they were buying time to make sure they have as conservative of reentry plan as possible and maybe build some additional tests into it. I can't imagine what any more data analysis does for that unless they think there is a real possibility that a rescue will be needed

  • @bohenriksson2330
    @bohenriksson2330 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    When a 1 week stay becomes a 1 month stay.. That smacks of desperation from Boeing.
    They either don’t know what’s wrong. Or know - and it’s potentially catastrophic. Either way it would not be safe to return with humans.

  • @therichieboy
    @therichieboy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    0:32 I didn't even see that at the time. Lucky I'd finished my drink as I'd have done a spit-take otherwise.

    • @owensparks5013
      @owensparks5013 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wow, I missed that on the first watch. Thanks for the timestamp.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wholly FAQ.

  • @si-vis-pacem-parabellum
    @si-vis-pacem-parabellum วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    PLOT : they want the two astronauts to surpass the regular 6 month shift.

  • @JohanCardel
    @JohanCardel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for enlightening us, I was sort of scouting for updates on this from a good source!

  • @pete2.0.43
    @pete2.0.43 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thankyou Ellie

  • @Will-yz7oi
    @Will-yz7oi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    At 0.33 it appears that a door falls off. Ok, Boeing, enough of that now. Bolt those doors on properly.

  • @cwulfe1
    @cwulfe1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Supposedly they'll be home the 1st of July. If NASA needs to "study the problems" with the thrusters and the helium leaks, then maybe the Demo2 crew could celebrate July 4th on the ISS.

    • @woodym2
      @woodym2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's funny how so many people think that a couple of people who trained their whole lives to become astronauts are disappointed that they get to stay in orbit an extra couple of weeks.

  • @joshking1526
    @joshking1526 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for the update

  • @FASWORLD7
    @FASWORLD7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Boeing even cut corners on their space program. Good thing the Astronauts are not whisleblowers, but they sure are being treated like one 😂😂

  • @boatbyrd
    @boatbyrd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Right at about :44 the door blows off! Hahahaha

  • @wyattnoise
    @wyattnoise วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dunno if you've seen my comments before or not but I've been extremely critical of you in the past because I knew you were capable of putting out perfectly nuanced videos like this. This is excellent coverage of the current situation, not click-bait nonsense.
    Thank you.

  • @samberry1000
    @samberry1000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Might be wise to return the people with SpaceX and have the Starliner return autonomously.

    • @Lost-In-Blank
      @Lost-In-Blank 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes ! That would accomplish the re-entry test phase without risking human life. The overall test has already been failed because the failed seals and failed thrusters failed, need re-design, and re-testing in space.

  • @estraume
    @estraume 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you again for a great informative video. Given that the main problem is the service module, and that it is designed to burn up on re-entry, it is reasonable that they want to test it and understand the root cause of the problems as much as possible before the departure from ISS. Scientists take the decisions based on data, and they want to collect as much relevant data as possible.

    • @dvone4124
      @dvone4124 วันที่ผ่านมา

      NASA says one of the issues involves MULTIPLE helium leaks in a system that is absolutely vital for safe return, so NASA chooses to leave Starliner at the station to LEAK MORE OUT while the "engineers" study what to do. What else has gone wrong that makes total thruster failure the lesser evil?

  • @tonybrock5288
    @tonybrock5288 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "We are letting the data drive our decision making...". Why is Boeing not being transparent about what the data is telling them? This points to the fact that they have some potentially serious concerns.

    • @wally7856
      @wally7856 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "We are letting the data drive our decision making..." is doublespeak for "if this thing crashes you can't point fingers at any one."

  • @owensparks5013
    @owensparks5013 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If we delay long enough, then maybe the helium will leak back in?

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or NASA admin will put lives first, letting the engineers delay just long enough that there's insuffcient Helium left to do the job.

  • @jeffrey5961
    @jeffrey5961 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    At 0:32, Starliner is being towed down a public road and an escape hatch blows off. No one stops. Did Ellie choose this clip intentionally to visually depict Starliner failures? We can't be sure of Schrodinger's astronauts until they land safely and give a press interview.

    • @kurtgain2978
      @kurtgain2978 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They did stop, at the very end of the clip. It takes a bit to stop that transporter, can't just slam on the brakes.

  • @homers7777
    @homers7777 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First time watcher.. great video. You have a wonderful voice, clear easy to understand and spoken at the right speed. Even for us 🇦🇺

  • @CmdrPPanda
    @CmdrPPanda 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Well, I think that the excuse of Boeing and NASA will be like....
    Sorry, after that, our space suits run out of oxygen. (Problems with discomfort and Water)
    Therefore, We cannot realize the external safety tests for undocking.
    And we must call the dragon for help. Nice, face-saver.

  • @SteichenFamily
    @SteichenFamily 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    0:32 Did it's door just fall off? 😮 (Boeing 🤦)

  • @boatbyrd
    @boatbyrd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    OMG! Did you see the door blow off the capsule while it’s being taken up the road????? Hilarious!

  • @Bitterrootbackroads
    @Bitterrootbackroads 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    0:32 Boeing door goes flying, oops forgot those darn bolts again!

  • @DrDoid0420
    @DrDoid0420 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very well balanced reporting, Ellie. Best I’ve seen so far. Well done!

  • @cualtiochi
    @cualtiochi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    When corruption kills ideas and *lives! 😢

    • @manuwilson4695
      @manuwilson4695 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      LIVES!!!

    • @cualtiochi
      @cualtiochi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@manuwilson4695 👍

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw วันที่ผ่านมา

      DEI

  • @SWilford
    @SWilford 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A window fell off at 0:34. They may have found 4 bolts missing. Imagine how the two poor astronauts feel if that happen during launch!!😮
    Actually, another piece seemed to have flown off at 1:29-1:30 during launch.

  • @BusstterNutt
    @BusstterNutt 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a great update as usual thank you very much

  • @jaeluatl
    @jaeluatl 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Damn just something fly off the capsule about 30 sec in the video wow

  • @SnaFubar_24
    @SnaFubar_24 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If it's a Boeing, I ain't going!

  • @MrGchiasson
    @MrGchiasson วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If my car stops running and I'm stranded on the side of the road...
    I'm 'delayed' and 'stranded' and 'stuck'.
    Use any euphemism you want..to make it sound better...but they're all three.
    Delayed, Stranded and Stuck.

  • @LuMaxQFPV
    @LuMaxQFPV 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I feel it's important for all to step back. Stop talking, observe, quietly ponder, and remind ourselves exactly what we are doing.
    We (Starliner/NASA/Boeing) are putting 2 human beings into a small container, putting that on top of multiple, complex, ragingly dynamic emitters of propulsion in the form of fire, fueled by liquids that explode easily, up through the sky with precision navigational control THAT MUST WORK PERFECTLY, into an unforgiving, endless vacuum.
    We did this with a vehicle fraught with known, and more troubling, UNKNOWN issues. Whew... we are safe at ISS! BUT......
    Now, we are faced with the math: 1/2 of the luck hoped for on this mission, docking with ISS, has been spent. The REST of the mission lies before us, PRECISION thrusting to enter the atmosphere EXACTLY right, then the need to survive SEVERAL minutes of fire and plasma during re-entry, where vehicle positioning is CRUCIAL for survival (relies on thrusters, just like on the command module) AND proper attitude for flight, let alone, landing area targeting. ......we have KNOWN issues, AND we've cashed in HALF of our luck already.
    Think about that.
    If I was anyone on staff/management, I would not want to trust this vehicle. I would not want to be a part of a 'Historical Tragedy' event on Wikipedia for the rest of my career.
    They need to be thinking like this.

  • @bamabldr66
    @bamabldr66 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ellie,
    I watched to the end and I really enjoyed the video.
    Thanks!
    -Cliff

  • @antiquatedflatulence1607
    @antiquatedflatulence1607 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I were in charge I'd be telling Boeing to get it fixed or don't even think about bidding on ANY MORE contracts.

  • @user-og7rs2sq8u
    @user-og7rs2sq8u 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They must be panic now.I really pray for them.

  • @gregorychaney7604
    @gregorychaney7604 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep up the even handed reporting!
    Cheers from Alaska

  • @tanagra2
    @tanagra2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Look at second 31 of this video. The Boeing Starliners door falls off.

  • @LordVader5738
    @LordVader5738 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My jaw is still on the floor @0:32 😦

  • @georgemccune7928
    @georgemccune7928 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for showing us this video Ellie it's always interesting how we all view a scenario in a different way but at the core we are all concerned about the safety of the Astronauts as long as they get home safely is the main thing

  • @anthonystout8265
    @anthonystout8265 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the way you’ve been producing your content lately. Can see your past journalistic style coming through and it’s good

  • @1981Frederick
    @1981Frederick 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    at this rate that capsule will reach the end of it's planned life before starting it's contracted mission

  • @irrefudiate
    @irrefudiate 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Space is difficult, but still, the feeling that Boeing quality control is slacking is hard to shake. I'm sure they'll iron out the bugs, but I'm reminded of the scene in "City Slickers", where Mitch and Curly are riding out one morning, having a 'friendly' chit-chat and a bemused Mitch asks Curly, "So, did you kill anyone today?" and Curly responds, "The day ain't over."

  • @williamgrunzweig571
    @williamgrunzweig571 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually, this reporting was very fair and direct. It didn't spin or downplay the seriousness of this subject. The US needs a solid way, a safe way, a reliable way, to begin our growth in space. The Boeing Starliner has not meet this basic need as of yet.
    Sad that NASA was not allowed to give the contract to Spacex.

  • @markwebber9883
    @markwebber9883 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    NASA should already have declared Starliner unsafe. If the ship was on the ground, with the known issues, there is no way they would launch. Why launch with people at risk, just because the ship is in orbit?

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw วันที่ผ่านมา

      Theyvwould have but the financial kickbacks from Boeing are hard to let go off.

  • @arthurwagar88
    @arthurwagar88 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well done video. Me thinks those two astronauts are a bit worried. What are they doing with their extra time?

  • @rickpetersen5728
    @rickpetersen5728 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Window cover flying off (00:36) during transport is another sign of Boeing’s incompetence.

    • @adamc5057
      @adamc5057 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wasn't a window bro

  • @ronstevens5412
    @ronstevens5412 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good video. Thanks for sharing

  • @TheMASSTTER
    @TheMASSTTER 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I think that Starliner will be able to retuen with the crew. but before it is to late i would say that a Dragon captule shuld be on standby in case it is needed.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I was thinking about that. It should actually be way easier to get them a dragon capsule than a normal crewed mission. Usually with a crewed mission they have to get a block 5 booster available for launch. But there won’t be any humans in the dragon capsule on the way up. So they can use any booster. Which they have plenty of.
      It’s kind of like when the military told SpaceX they wanted to change the launch site for one of their missions. The military expected huge delays. But my understanding SpaceX had a rocket ready at the new location ready before the military got the payload to the new location.
      If I had to guess SpaceX could get them a dragon capsule with just a week’s notice. But that’s just a random guess. But guessing can make me look really smart if I end up being right. 😁🧐🤣😂

    • @airjump1
      @airjump1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ecospider5 It would take at least a couple of months to get a dragon ready. The life support systems and communication systems are not the same on the two crafts. They would have to build adapters or build SpaceX suits for the two crew members. There is only one Dragon capsule anywhere near to being ready to fly again. It is scheduled for Sept or Oct to the ISS. The other three are either on station, just returned from station, or has a window where the docking adapter would be.

    • @BrendanBurwood
      @BrendanBurwood 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ecospider5 ALL active Falcon 9 boosters are Block 5. There are no earlier ones still active - they were retired or expended ages ago.

  • @dalesmith924
    @dalesmith924 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally a fact-based vlog. Thank you for what you do.

  • @rudivandoornegat2371
    @rudivandoornegat2371 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    0:30 min someone at Boeing forgot to bolt the door and someone else forgot to check

    • @rudivandoornegat2371
      @rudivandoornegat2371 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Probably they also forgot a few screws and bolts of the thruster manifold?

  • @didiervandendaele4036
    @didiervandendaele4036 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Starliner ? No, we follow "Lost in Space" tv show offered to us by the Boeing entertainer 😂

  • @ExplodedwarlockD2
    @ExplodedwarlockD2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’ll come back home on dragon thank you. I would even come home on starship I trust that more then anything Boeing !

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Starship Wingflaps, even when we're dying in hypersonic airflow, we still deliver to destination.....

    • @calebfuller4713
      @calebfuller4713 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PiDsPagePrototypes The little wing that could!

  • @mikewaters2524
    @mikewaters2524 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Ellie for strait- cool & best reporting. I warched Sunita Williams years ago on the ISS via NASA TV. I'm happy she got to go again. People in India see her as the astronaut from India but of course she is a US Test Pilot. You are the best reporter for Space & Tesla Tech development & congrats for the 100 K plack. 🎉

  • @n8hsu255
    @n8hsu255 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know a little more than the public about Boeing. I was job hunting and found programing positions in their business software division on their site back before they killed 2 planefuls of people on the Max 8s. This led me to employee blogs where I found multiple complaints from programmers and project leaders about managements policy of only caring about deadlines not quality. They said that many had left in disgust. I am thinking NASA is finally deciding they cannot trust this deceitful company. Maybe, you could search for those blogs and find someone to interview.

  • @aaabbb-ff1sp
    @aaabbb-ff1sp วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    unlike in 1969, the internet has made it impossible to cut to hollywood...😂

  • @jackhydrazine1376
    @jackhydrazine1376 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stuckliner, Leakliner, Starleaker, and many other names fit this spacecraft much better!

  • @timothynevins3778
    @timothynevins3778 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think of what I hear I would say it maybe coming down to a rescue mission by SpaceX. I am no expert but it looks like it to me

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw วันที่ผ่านมา

      It may be possible to leave the astronauts on station until the next scheduled mission. They do not like to change the mission calender . Requires rescheduling all planned launches and that is a very big problem.

  • @w3vjp568
    @w3vjp568 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Fire that incompetent buffoon CEO, and the rest of his cronies, and MAYBE Boeing can be salvaged. The fact he’s being allowed to “step down” at the end of the year is obscene. It’s like letting a drunk driver go home on his own recognizance after he’s already wrecked the car.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      While carrying a performance bonus six pack on the passenger seat.

  • @kenkellalea329
    @kenkellalea329 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very interesting

  • @mikercflyer7383
    @mikercflyer7383 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video Ellie. Is it a possibility that the astronauts will come back on a SpaceX Dragon capsule?

  • @DelPhonic1
    @DelPhonic1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love ya Ellie!!

  • @lodragan
    @lodragan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't think it's possible for them to return in the spaceX capsule, since they don't have compatible pressure suits. If I'm wrong about this, please correct me. I think it will be okay to return in the Boeing capsule, assuming there is enough system redundancy remaining.

  • @eversurfer
    @eversurfer วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be a task, that Elon should practice, not only to retrieve the crew, but also retrieve the ISS. For it is in accomplishing self reliance, it is also importance to step to next realm of rescuing others, to help others who are isolated.

  • @arnoldsmith5754
    @arnoldsmith5754 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    it will be a return vehicle if things are patched up as long as the engines dont fall off like in Boeing aircraft

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's a big if.

  • @daveoatway6126
    @daveoatway6126 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very well done and professional video. It is hard to know what we can trust from both Boeing and NASA. We have no basis for any opinion. There does not seem to be transparency until an incident investigation. You should not be receiving any push back for honest and professional reporting. The government needs to be honest with us so we can make decisions about what and whom to support. Glad you are living the exciting life you are enjoying!

  • @paulobembe7742
    @paulobembe7742 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    NASA should never have flown the Buggy Starliner in the first place. Any craft that can't run withing the envelopes of its own specs should be sent back to the lab and refined until it works as specified.

  • @SV-tj7mm
    @SV-tj7mm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    thank god for elon