As a South African I can tell you a story. I have spent the better part of my adult life as a Paramedic. I have spent literally 1000s of hours saving lives of all races, ages and types. Most of which was done at which "in SAfrica" was the lowest paying professional position worldwide. But this is not a story about me its about my daughter. She was born as the light of my life and like any father I wanted only the best for her. At a very early age I noticed she had an affinity for Animals , dogs in particular. She loved all dogs and some that even I was afraid of by their evil look alone, she would not have any fear at all and would turn them into fluffy teddy bears (in personality of course.) It was like she was a dog whisperer. By the time she was 10 she had taught our dogs a multitude of tricks. By the time she was 13 she was consistently around dogs. She Even went around getting food donations for Dog Shelters in our area where they got to know her even on a first name bases. I remember when she was 14 she I asked her what she wanted to do when she finished school. And she immediately said I want to be a Vet. So I told her she had to excel in the sciences like biology. By the time she was 16 she was excelling at her grades . Now we getting close to her graduation and it was time to prep for university. In South Africa we have an extremely prestigious internationally recognised Veterinary College. That was her first and only choice she wanted to attend. However , to our surprise she was rejected based solely on the fact that their Quota had already been fulfilled and her skin was not dark enough to allow her entrance. She was crushed and along with it her dreams. BEE/affirmative action does not fix , IT DESTROYS. It is reverse Racism. My daughter will now go through the rest of her life knowing she was excluded because she was white..... If you are black and recognise this feeling then you must know. There is no Context where feeling like that is good for anyone. STOP BEE and AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. The only future that is of moral and ethical worth is a NON Racial one.
Too bad, however when universities reject application they normally don't mention the reason why, and is beyond race because you will find lot of non white potential students who get rejected due to limited space availability, many students don't get accepted in their dream choice of study and it not all about race but space availability, however i don't think is wrong to make sure that all race and gender got fair opportunities, what do you think SA should deal with economy legacy of apartheid and colonization?, they should behave like it never exist ?
@@dokotelam7207 Does it mean that Germans are acting like there was no holocaust unless they actually start Gassing Germans. Of Course not. Your Logic is flawed. Transformation is not created by creating an entire new group of disadvantaged people based entirely on their Skin Colour alone. So how do we redress. By returning access to those who were disadvantaged . Or are you of the racist viewpoint that non white people are incapable of success unless whites offer them a helping hand. Especially when whites in SAfrica make up less than 10% of the entire SAfrican Demographic. And yes Space does play a role at the universities and yes dreams are shattered, this is life. Then explain to me how my daughters best friend of many years ( I will add that I am happy for her, as I do see her as part of the family already), who is Non White received an acceptance letter from the exact same college 3 weeks after my daughter received her rejection letter. Keeping in Mind , my daughters grades where better. The Only answer can and is Quotas. Now you may wish to imply that I am a liar as you have already done so. to which I say "I don't care what you think". The Fact of the matter BEE/Affirmative action creates More stories like this and certainly goes absolutely and objectively nowhere, to preventing it.
@@chadblignaut in 1994, 87 % of land was in the hand of less than 10% of white people, you don't need to be smart to see the legacy of race politics will only be deal with if you make make sure that people who were excluded for 350 years by white supremacist policy are given enough space, if you do not have policy that address excluding of black people then you will have same policy as apartheid, what is the percentage of white people you know at dis- chem management vs black people?, I do wonder why some people wanna keep system that always favor white people over black people, the debate is to include black people as well , it does not mean white people do not become part of dis-chem stuff, but make sure that if other race or gender is excluded then they should include them too, few years back SANDF did talk about lack of white people, since the end of apartheid with mandatory of white boys to military, many white boys are choosing another field than SANDF and SANDF did have drive to recruit more white people and when I remember well the majority of black never complain, University acceptance is not all about Matric results, some also write various selection tests, I don't think you have full evidence that your relative was excluded based on race, that is your conclusions, go to the same University you will find White students doing the same degree that you claim they did exclude base on race,
@facepalm486 really? Competition leads to failure? In which world? We have to decide what we want, excellent outcomes from anyone who brings it or mediocrity to accommodate people's feelings...
@@ChangeOfHearts39 education system is flawed. (They teach black people about "Hitler". e.g. instead of Africa and African potential). why do you think people can't think for themselves 🧐.
@@PharmersConsulting you are correct. So refreshing to hear similar opinions and common sense which in today's woke society (which is only a small percentage of society that has a loud, intimidating, guilt tripping, self victimisation culture with strong marxist socialist overtones) is dearly lacking. Much like an empty vessel makes the loudest noise. Our problem in South Africa is that we have an alliancesl government consisting of the South African Communist party, Council of South African Trade Unions and the African National Party who are card carrying communists. BEE is racist legislation which has already been declared to be unconstitutional by the highest court in the land (Pravin Gordan was instructed to come up with better - he just made it worse by doubling down on BEE. To successfully govern a capitalist country one has to promote division in society such as race distinctions, gender dispositions and the like. We desperately need to get rid of the ANC and partners.
FIRSTLY, a merit based system should be implemented. Everyone should stop judging people based on skin color. Period. How does one stop racism. Just stop listening to politician's all they want is to stay in power. By having people divided they stay in power. IRR, did a study. Over 80% of South Africans don't see racism as an issue. Why is the government forcing racist politicians upon us. JUST STOP.
The saddest part of all this is the fact that people's worth is based on the skin color and not the skills that they have to offer. Imagine walking into a work environment, with your fellow employees looking at you knowing that you got there because of your color and not your skill or anything else of worth. Business works and makes a profit based off the skilled people that help run that business. If you chase quota's based on skin color, that business will fall apart, employees out on the street and everyone loses.
Remember people Dischem don’t want to lose their profit shareholders won’t like that. I will no longer use a chain pharmacy. I will support local independent pharmacies. Money stays in the community and you get to know your pharmacist so would end up with better service. Dischem shares going to get cheaper for those who trade.
I'm not American. Lol. Very much African living in Africa but raised /grew up in Canada. SA is beautiful and needs to be accelerated into its full potential socio-economically. The intention here with dischem is good but the method is deplorable.
This is already being done at other pharmacies, they have just not published it. I have my script with Clicks and get the script from various branches. There are no white pharmacists at any of the branches I go to. The majority are Indian but there are also black as well. It is not just the pharmacists, you will not see a white employee at Clicks.
This is disingenuous or ignorant. Clicks has twice as many stores in many more expansive locations and therefore have a much wider employee range. There are many many white pharmacists with whom I have worked with and as a roving pharmacist can confirm this statement is false.
@@PharmersConsulting I apologise then and must correct myself as it must just be my area and the branches I go to or maybe they are not on duty when I go, but I have genuinely not seen a white pharmacist at Clicks for many months. I would not make a statement like that if not true.
To make the Dischem Moratorium even more insulting is that it states that those whites who are in their employ will not be recommended for any promotions. Meaning that those whites re locked in their positions no matter how much they prove that they re worthy for promotion. Who wants to work in those conditions? Does this not create bitterness and animosity in the work place. If I were in that position I would utterly sabotage and do my worst until they fired me.
Eish...it seems that Ivan learned nothing from what happened to Spur...so ja, we dont need Dischem either...lost all my respect for your company...taking my scripts elsewhere now
The ANC does this and the proof is there give tenders to family and friends . Ministers are not qualified for the posts they in but they ministers. The minster of police to minister of transport and the list goes on ... Agree with you lady go to your local pharmacy
....problem is all chain pharmacies are more about profit and not about pharmaceutical care....The fact that this letter is shinning so bright on how Pharmacy is still profession full of racism....' clearly it this letter is like giving a statement of them ' being forced to hire blacks and not whites'. As if pharmacy is not a proffesion of trained proffessionals, all with same degree. Then you do your additional Leadership post grad...Just hire ppl based on their competency and leadership training and skills and stop with undertone racism. They are as much black competent Pharmacist as they are whites....and corporate must stop crying foul. Dischem is very excluding on black Pharmacist, Clicks is inclusive in seeing blacks in management and just pharmacist on the floor and is doing way better when it comes to pharmaceutical care.
I think front shop and other staff members they do...but pharmacists it very hard to get a position on dischem, competent pharms, pharms holding Masters/ PHD black clinicians...I dont even want to think of management positions....and then go look at pay rates at dischem...😆 now they righting letters, no man.
We really can’t be screaming competence now when the company has clearly been discriminating against blacks in their hiring. By that logic, it means the majority of competent personnel in pharmacy are white and the company must continue doing what it has been doing - hiring more whites because they are more competent? Makes no sense. We are all competent under the same professional body. Otherwise they must introduce a new metric for measuring competence amongst their employees - then we’ll talk about “Dischem competence” and who makes the cut and who doesn’t. I really don’t see anything wrong with the action they decided to take to correct their actions. After all, black people were the ones discriminated against. Correcting the discrimination is also a problem? Then how do you resolve something like this?
I hear you. They can use transparent quotas as suggested. Even if they say 80% blacks and 20% others, it's a legal measure. Complete exclusion is against employment laws
What evidence is there that "they have clearly been discriminating against blacks in their hiring"? Is there a report, a memo, an article that supports this claim? Also - if you are correct, and there is a culture of discrimination, then why does Ivan Salzman and the rest of the executive not retire/resign, and give their positions to those they have discriminated against? Why are new hires targeted?
We seriously need to choose our stance....it cant be both. Why they did not meet the numbers, was the no competent pharmacist,in SA how many black pharmacist graduate in a year. Why issue the letter now that what was done to the blacks is now done to the whites, these cooperate chains r now in tiwnships killing community pharmacies that blacks r trying to open, so what must black pharmacists do?....why is everybody fighting now when they were quiet when it was done to the blacks, this has nothing to do with BEE and 30yrs is very little time to reverse apartheid exlcusions that were practise for hundred of years, yhuu niyadlala nina....SA we r still very far to come together because of such undertone racism.
It's the bigger picture..we fought discrimination, we fought racial barriers, and in 94 we got a south Africa that every one has equal rights regardless of race. While bbe...is somewhat discrimination....it is supposed to be a temporary practice to allow the previously disadvantaged to gain a foothold in the labour sector... Now while bbe has been a disaster in government entities...thanks to cardre deployment ....the private sector has produced some brilliant black industry leaders...which we definitely need more off...but that aside to exclude an entire race..is racism in its purists form.....as some one who is vehemently opposed to racism in any form...I dont see how we can justify a current injustice because of a past one..our patriotic duties as South Africans , is to oppose all injustice, regardless of the skin color of the person its being committed against
I will boycott Dischem @@@@!!!! No problem !!!! Canceled my chronic scripted medication already. That's it !!! I'm done. My kidz are all leaving SA and I hope you loose so much money you go UNDER !!!
As wrong as this decrimination against white people is ... Not one positive thing is said about Black people in this video. I feel you painting professionals of other races that aren't white as incompetent and hired on nepotism in pharmacy. Defend the white but not on the expense professionals that are not white. Black people get distinctions and graduate cum laude too. This video is not helping this discrimination problem because as much as you feel like you're addressing the unfairness , you also unfair in assuming so many negative things about blacks . They are also excellence as much as you feel white people are. Both Black and white qualified pharmacists/PA are deemed competent by the same professional council. Most important no sector is for certain people or isn't for certain people if you are qualified and certified competent than the person deserves to be there. Quota system never said hire them even if they don't have the qualifications..so why assume blacks in this case are incompetent?
No such assumptions were made. You may be projecting your own interpretation of it. Of course there's excellent people in any race but the point is race shouldn't be a factor anymore! Please watch the whole video ... seems you skipped that part
Most Black people have always been competent in what they do but for the longest time they have been sabotaged because of the colour of their skin…Let Dischem do the right thing …
Im so sick of tired almost 30 years still same problem.people should be employed for their skills and stop employing people on their skin colour..thats why this country still in mess .as theirs no unity .and they must cancel this bee as this is also racism and also promoting one skin colour not fare as bee as this is also employing people with no skills.
The other side of the story is let's say you are as a quota player in a team and you can see you are not suppose to be there . how will you feel? Inferior and will you ever get over that? The result of this is also that a person who deserve to be in a team but because of his colour will be seen as a quota player must work so much harder to prove him/,herself. Do you really want a job that you are not qualified for? I will be on rescue pills everyday.
Obviously they will hire black people who are qualified by the way there is a lot of them sitting at home with their qualifications, I support the move and wish all companies will do that,
@@phumlahloma7060 that's amazing! Never lose that spark. Even as victims we can't progress with the victim mentality. The world is a very unfair place and no matter what we have to stand and create our best opportunities
You said the best word that describes SA municipalities and state owned companies ... **incompetence** .... Dis-chem should be carefull not to follow in the footsteps of our government it breaks my heart and kills my SA spirit when I hear rubbish like this. All should be given an equal opportunity its been almost 30 years what a joke...
The argument is although it's been 30 years the particular company hasn't been fair since... they need to clarify and set timeliness. Such things can't be indefinite (Bbbee and this moratorium)
Exactly ☝️It screams incompetence and inferiority complex.When you have to apply a policy (BBBEE) against a minority group,because of your own inadequacies,and ability to create something on your own.
Talk about fair opportunities?? How about all payslips of all employees be brought forward too and it be put public how that too is also an issue how a black employee would be started at very low salary compared to a white and or indian employee🤕🤕🤕with the same skills, experience, duties and etc....
@@karabomotaung3931 do you have proof of that? Cant just say it if you dont. Are they looking at experience , years of work and qualifications. Cant pay Paul thats just qualified the same as Peter thats been working for 10 years already and have same qualifications. That's when we start playing this dangerous game and incompetence start kreeping in. But I am for equal pay, white, black, Indian, colored , woman or man but must be on merit.
You should be happy that Africans, Coloured and Indians who are qualified and competent will have A chance to those high position. It looks like toy don't care about that.
What is your solutions in addressing 350 years or colonization and apartheid legacy ? Let assume in dis-chem they have 90% skew to white people manager and less than 3 percent is black?, if you run such company in this 2022, what will you do to address such issue?the problem is that many people debate issue like this with emotion NOT statistics facts
We need to be careful of running with what we receive from mainstream media, at this day and age we can’t afford to do that. Maybe some extensive research and unbiased opinions would have made this video more solution based.
what the fuck does that even mean, so we must try and get black people points, have you seen how shit this country is since blacks had full control, mara, go to your squatter camp and go read some facts, this is a criminal state, cause all black persons are victims gtfoh .
Justice would be to increase the quota greatly. Not ban completely. I think intention is good but method is clunky. Same with BBBee. Also for how long .... 30 years later and has it helped? How much longer do we need to compensate for?
@@PharmersConsulting BBEee is different in pharmacy cause its a proffession, yall mean to tell me black pharmacist ( which there is a number of them in Africa) are not hired in dischem cause they are incompetent...if not, them why dont they meet amployment equity requirements...So coroporate is still the hiring based on colour and not compliance and then we also say they must not forced be forced with BEE...what must happened to competent black pharmacist, continue being sidelined even if thy want ti work in retail, in the same breath thes pharmacy retail chains are allowed to be everywhere so they even kill small community pharmacies....This is all undertone racism,thus whole story...we mustnt see colour when blacks we not hired but see colour when its now done to whites who have been on advantage in SA And 30yrs is very short time to say we can eradicate BEE, its just need to be monitored because it can be missuse sometimes bu Phrm is a profession and ppl that are there all qualified but we all not also come from similar backgrounds...its a lot of factors that ppl chose to keep a blind eye on if its not affecting them.Pharmacy positions still require Afrikaans to be hired in some positions when English is an official language, is that not exclusion....why r we then not adding all 9 languages....yoh akenime, racism is too much in Pharmacy proffession especially on private sectr and we all know it.
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As a South African I can tell you a story. I have spent the better part of my adult life as a Paramedic. I have spent literally 1000s of hours saving lives of all races, ages and types. Most of which was done at which "in SAfrica" was the lowest paying professional position worldwide. But this is not a story about me its about my daughter. She was born as the light of my life and like any father I wanted only the best for her. At a very early age I noticed she had an affinity for Animals , dogs in particular. She loved all dogs and some that even I was afraid of by their evil look alone, she would not have any fear at all and would turn them into fluffy teddy bears (in personality of course.) It was like she was a dog whisperer. By the time she was 10 she had taught our dogs a multitude of tricks. By the time she was 13 she was consistently around dogs. She Even went around getting food donations for Dog Shelters in our area where they got to know her even on a first name bases. I remember when she was 14 she I asked her what she wanted to do when she finished school. And she immediately said I want to be a Vet. So I told her she had to excel in the sciences like biology. By the time she was 16 she was excelling at her grades . Now we getting close to her graduation and it was time to prep for university. In South Africa we have an extremely prestigious internationally recognised Veterinary College. That was her first and only choice she wanted to attend. However , to our surprise she was rejected based solely on the fact that their Quota had already been fulfilled and her skin was not dark enough to allow her entrance. She was crushed and along with it her dreams. BEE/affirmative action does not fix , IT DESTROYS. It is reverse Racism. My daughter will now go through the rest of her life knowing she was excluded because she was white..... If you are black and recognise this feeling then you must know. There is no Context where feeling like that is good for anyone. STOP BEE and AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. The only future that is of moral and ethical worth is a NON Racial one.
We meet again .... 😉.
Thank you for sharing brother. 🙏
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Too bad, however when universities reject application they normally don't mention the reason why, and is beyond race because you will find lot of non white potential students who get rejected due to limited space availability, many students don't get accepted in their dream choice of study and it not all about race but space availability, however i don't think is wrong to make sure that all race and gender got fair opportunities, what do you think SA should deal with economy legacy of apartheid and colonization?, they should behave like it never exist ?
@@dokotelam7207 Does it mean that Germans are acting like there was no holocaust unless they actually start Gassing Germans. Of Course not. Your Logic is flawed. Transformation is not created by creating an entire new group of disadvantaged people based entirely on their Skin Colour alone. So how do we redress. By returning access to those who were disadvantaged . Or are you of the racist viewpoint that non white people are incapable of success unless whites offer them a helping hand. Especially when whites in SAfrica make up less than 10% of the entire SAfrican Demographic. And yes Space does play a role at the universities and yes dreams are shattered, this is life. Then explain to me how my daughters best friend of many years ( I will add that I am happy for her, as I do see her as part of the family already), who is Non White received an acceptance letter from the exact same college 3 weeks after my daughter received her rejection letter. Keeping in Mind , my daughters grades where better. The Only answer can and is Quotas. Now you may wish to imply that I am a liar as you have already done so. to which I say "I don't care what you think". The Fact of the matter BEE/Affirmative action creates More stories like this and certainly goes absolutely and objectively nowhere, to preventing it.
@@chadblignaut in 1994, 87 % of land was in the hand of less than 10% of white people, you don't need to be smart to see the legacy of race politics will only be deal with if you make make sure that people who were excluded for 350 years by white supremacist policy are given enough space, if you do not have policy that address excluding of black people then you will have same policy as apartheid, what is the percentage of white people you know at dis- chem management vs black people?, I do wonder why some people wanna keep system that always favor white people over black people, the debate is to include black people as well , it does not mean white people do not become part of dis-chem stuff, but make sure that if other race or gender is excluded then they should include them too, few years back SANDF did talk about lack of white people, since the end of apartheid with mandatory of white boys to military, many white boys are choosing another field than SANDF and SANDF did have drive to recruit more white people and when I remember well the majority of black never complain,
University acceptance is not all about Matric results, some also write various selection tests, I don't think you have full evidence that your relative was excluded based on race, that is your conclusions, go to the same University you will find White students doing the same degree that you claim they did exclude base on race,
We need to do better... lives are at stake and race is a nonfactor in saving them. All races should be competing against competence.
How?
@@walterjrwhite7352 get educated .
@facepalm486 really? Competition leads to failure? In which world? We have to decide what we want, excellent outcomes from anyone who brings it or mediocrity to accommodate people's feelings...
@@ChangeOfHearts39 education system is flawed. (They teach black people about "Hitler". e.g. instead of Africa and African potential). why do you think people can't think for themselves 🧐.
@@PharmersConsulting you are correct. So refreshing to hear similar opinions and common sense which in today's woke society (which is only a small percentage of society that has a loud, intimidating, guilt tripping, self victimisation culture with strong marxist socialist overtones) is dearly lacking. Much like an empty vessel makes the loudest noise. Our problem in South Africa is that we have an alliancesl government consisting of the South African Communist party, Council of South African Trade Unions and the African National Party who are card carrying communists. BEE is racist legislation which has already been declared to be unconstitutional by the highest court in the land (Pravin Gordan was instructed to come up with better - he just made it worse by doubling down on BEE. To successfully govern a capitalist country one has to promote division in society such as race distinctions, gender dispositions and the like. We desperately need to get rid of the ANC and partners.
I totally agree with you. I hope we can get past the color of a persons skin in this country for once, first the NP now the ANC.
FIRSTLY, a merit based system should be implemented.
Everyone should stop judging people based on skin color. Period.
How does one stop racism. Just stop listening to politician's all they want is to stay in power. By having people divided they stay in power.
IRR, did a study. Over 80% of South Africans don't see racism as an issue. Why is the government forcing racist politicians upon us.
JUST STOP.
Thank you mam for speaking the raw truth. Cudos to you for not letting the system and people drag you down. May you be blessed.
The saddest part of all this is the fact that people's worth is based on the skin color and not the skills that they have to offer. Imagine walking into a work environment, with your fellow employees looking at you knowing that you got there because of your color and not your skill or anything else of worth.
Business works and makes a profit based off the skilled people that help run that business. If you chase quota's based on skin color, that business will fall apart, employees out on the street and everyone loses.
Thank you for covering this. Brilliant brilliant take from you on this situation. New subscriber here 👋🏼
Remember people Dischem don’t want to lose their profit shareholders won’t like that.
I will no longer use a chain pharmacy. I will support local independent pharmacies.
Money stays in the community and you get to know your pharmacist so would end up with better service.
Dischem shares going to get cheaper for those who trade.
Private independent pharmacies are best xxx
Go ahead, do as you please my guy... Hawu🙄
Yip! I totally agree with you - distracting us from what is REALLY going on.
Wow!!! This is unbelievable from Dischem
AMEN to EXCELLENCE!!!
Well said
Thanks so much for this. It takes an American woman to give some clear perspective.
I'm not American. Lol. Very much African living in Africa but raised /grew up in Canada. SA is beautiful and needs to be accelerated into its full potential socio-economically. The intention here with dischem is good but the method is deplorable.
Use local pharmacy NOT DISCHEM
This is already being done at other pharmacies, they have just not published it. I have my script with Clicks and get the script from various branches. There are no white pharmacists at any of the branches I go to. The majority are Indian but there are also black as well. It is not just the pharmacists, you will not see a white employee at Clicks.
This is disingenuous or ignorant. Clicks has twice as many stores in many more expansive locations and therefore have a much wider employee range. There are many many white pharmacists with whom I have worked with and as a roving pharmacist can confirm this statement is false.
@@PharmersConsulting I apologise then and must correct myself as it must just be my area and the branches I go to or maybe they are not on duty when I go, but I have genuinely not seen a white pharmacist at Clicks for many months. I would not make a statement like that if not true.
@@venty1 thank you
To make the Dischem Moratorium even more insulting is that it states that those whites who are in their employ will not be recommended for any promotions. Meaning that those whites re locked in their positions no matter how much they prove that they re worthy for promotion. Who wants to work in those conditions? Does this not create bitterness and animosity in the work place. If I were in that position I would utterly sabotage and do my worst until they fired me.
Eish...it seems that Ivan learned nothing from what happened to Spur...so ja, we dont need Dischem either...lost all my respect for your company...taking my scripts elsewhere now
The ANC does this and the proof is there give tenders to family and friends . Ministers are not qualified for the posts they in but they ministers. The minster of police to minister of transport and the list goes on ... Agree with you lady go to your local pharmacy
....problem is all chain pharmacies are more about profit and not about pharmaceutical care....The fact that this letter is shinning so bright on how Pharmacy is still profession full of racism....' clearly it this letter is like giving a statement of them ' being forced to hire blacks and not whites'. As if pharmacy is not a proffesion of trained proffessionals, all with same degree. Then you do your additional Leadership post grad...Just hire ppl based on their competency and leadership training and skills and stop with undertone racism. They are as much black competent Pharmacist as they are whites....and corporate must stop crying foul.
Dischem is very excluding on black Pharmacist, Clicks is inclusive in seeing blacks in management and just pharmacist on the floor and is doing way better when it comes to pharmaceutical care.
You're right. The biggest problem is legality. It becomes illegal to exclude but they should have very high quota for blacks/ others
I think front shop and other staff members they do...but pharmacists it very hard to get a position on dischem, competent pharms, pharms holding Masters/ PHD black clinicians...I dont even want to think of management positions....and then go look at pay rates at dischem...😆 now they righting letters, no man.
We really can’t be screaming competence now when the company has clearly been discriminating against blacks in their hiring. By that logic, it means the majority of competent personnel in pharmacy are white and the company must continue doing what it has been doing - hiring more whites because they are more competent? Makes no sense. We are all competent under the same professional body. Otherwise they must introduce a new metric for measuring competence amongst their employees - then we’ll talk about “Dischem competence” and who makes the cut and who doesn’t.
I really don’t see anything wrong with the action they decided to take to correct their actions. After all, black people were the ones discriminated against. Correcting the discrimination is also a problem? Then how do you resolve something like this?
I hear you. They can use transparent quotas as suggested. Even if they say 80% blacks and 20% others, it's a legal measure. Complete exclusion is against employment laws
What evidence is there that "they have clearly been discriminating against blacks in their hiring"? Is there a report, a memo, an article that supports this claim? Also - if you are correct, and there is a culture of discrimination, then why does Ivan Salzman and the rest of the executive not retire/resign, and give their positions to those they have discriminated against? Why are new hires targeted?
@@PharmersConsulting is it?🤔
We seriously need to choose our stance....it cant be both. Why they did not meet the numbers, was the no competent pharmacist,in SA how many black pharmacist graduate in a year. Why issue the letter now that what was done to the blacks is now done to the whites, these cooperate chains r now in tiwnships killing community pharmacies that blacks r trying to open, so what must black pharmacists do?....why is everybody fighting now when they were quiet when it was done to the blacks, this has nothing to do with BEE and 30yrs is very little time to reverse apartheid exlcusions that were practise for hundred of years, yhuu niyadlala nina....SA we r still very far to come together because of such undertone racism.
It's the bigger picture..we fought discrimination, we fought racial barriers, and in 94 we got a south Africa that every one has equal rights regardless of race.
While bbe...is somewhat discrimination....it is supposed to be a temporary practice to allow the previously disadvantaged to gain a foothold in the labour sector...
Now while bbe has been a disaster in government entities...thanks to cardre deployment ....the private sector has produced some brilliant black industry leaders...which we definitely need more off...but that aside to exclude an entire race..is racism in its purists form.....as some one who is vehemently opposed to racism in any form...I dont see how we can justify a current injustice because of a past one..our patriotic duties as South Africans , is to oppose all injustice, regardless of the skin color of the person its being committed against
I totally agree
Thank you for your comments and fresh stance on this idiotic policy of Dischem. I will not support Dischem again as my money is too white for them.
I will boycott Dischem @@@@!!!! No problem !!!! Canceled my chronic scripted medication already. That's it !!! I'm done. My kidz are all leaving SA and I hope you loose so much money you go UNDER !!!
That sounds a little extreme... Go to your private independent pharmacy yes but let's see what press release comes next. Surely they will clarify
@@PharmersConsulting no my sister in law was set up and fired. Definitely not a hoax
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As wrong as this decrimination against white people is ... Not one positive thing is said about Black people in this video. I feel you painting professionals of other races that aren't white as incompetent and hired on nepotism in pharmacy. Defend the white but not on the expense professionals that are not white.
Black people get distinctions and graduate cum laude too. This video is not helping this discrimination problem because as much as you feel like you're addressing the unfairness , you also unfair in assuming so many negative things about blacks . They are also excellence as much as you feel white people are. Both Black and white qualified pharmacists/PA are deemed competent by the same professional council. Most important no sector is for certain people or isn't for certain people if you are qualified and certified competent than the person deserves to be there. Quota system never said hire them even if they don't have the qualifications..so why assume blacks in this case are incompetent?
No such assumptions were made. You may be projecting your own interpretation of it. Of course there's excellent people in any race but the point is race shouldn't be a factor anymore! Please watch the whole video ... seems you skipped that part
11:19 competence and nothing else.
10:39 irrespective of colour...
Most Black people have always been competent in what they do but for the longest time they have been sabotaged because of the colour of their skin…Let Dischem do the right thing …
@@phumzilemabula253 thanks for your contributions. They should do the right thing legally!
4:05 do u think pharmacists or graduates who passed with a 50% lack some skills in terms of practicing their pharmacology?
Well they clearly didn't know everything. So academic merit in such fields make a difference in my opinion
@@PharmersConsulting interesting opinion 💯💯🔥. My issue for me is that not everything is covered in exams
@@stanment4202 also very true. However patients come with cases that you have no control over. You can't choose
You are talking about 2 things Pharmacist and graduates
Will you go to a graduated heart surgeon or a recentley qualified Dr. ?
@@janvanheerden265 I think you missed the point, however Pat got it. Have a lovely day.
Im so sick of tired almost 30 years still same problem.people should be employed for their skills and stop employing people on their skin colour..thats why this country still in mess .as theirs no unity .and they must cancel this bee as this is also racism and also promoting one skin colour not fare as bee as this is also employing people with no skills.
The other side of the story is let's say you are as a quota player in a team and you can see you are not suppose to be there . how will you feel? Inferior and will you ever get over that? The result of this is also that a person who deserve to be in a team but because of his colour will be seen as a quota player must work so much harder to prove him/,herself. Do you really want a job that you are not qualified for? I will be on rescue pills everyday.
Obviously they will hire black people who are qualified by the way there is a lot of them sitting at home with their qualifications, I support the move and wish all companies will do that,
Alright. Lets see. But also, become an entrepreneur and employ more people yourself! We are always looking to others..
@@PharmersConsulting definitely, I am an interpreneur and when the time comes will employ ppl black ppl, I love black ppl and I love being black
@@phumlahloma7060 that's amazing! Never lose that spark. Even as victims we can't progress with the victim mentality. The world is a very unfair place and no matter what we have to stand and create our best opportunities
baking verkoek and selling in street coners isnt a buisness🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You said the best word that describes SA municipalities and state owned companies ... **incompetence** .... Dis-chem should be carefull not to follow in the footsteps of our government it breaks my heart and kills my SA spirit when I hear rubbish like this. All should be given an equal opportunity its been almost 30 years what a joke...
The argument is although it's been 30 years the particular company hasn't been fair since... they need to clarify and set timeliness. Such things can't be indefinite (Bbbee and this moratorium)
Exactly ☝️It screams incompetence and inferiority complex.When you have to apply a policy (BBBEE) against a minority group,because of your own inadequacies,and ability to create something on your own.
Talk about fair opportunities??
How about all payslips of all employees be brought forward too and it be put public how that too is also an issue how a black employee would be started at very low salary compared to a white and or indian employee🤕🤕🤕with the same skills, experience, duties and etc....
@@karabomotaung3931 that has been a very big elephant in the room. No one talks about this fact.
@@karabomotaung3931 do you have proof of that? Cant just say it if you dont. Are they looking at experience , years of work and qualifications. Cant pay Paul thats just qualified the same as Peter thats been working for 10 years already and have same qualifications. That's when we start playing this dangerous game and incompetence start kreeping in. But I am for equal pay, white, black, Indian, colored , woman or man but must be on merit.
You should be happy that Africans, Coloured and Indians who are qualified and competent will have A chance to those high position. It looks like toy don't care about that.
What is your solutions in addressing 350 years or colonization and apartheid legacy ? Let assume in dis-chem they have 90% skew to white people manager and less than 3 percent is black?, if you run such company in this 2022, what will you do to address such issue?the problem is that many people debate issue like this with emotion NOT statistics facts
Competence will create strong companies and economies. Nothing else. I'd hire by competence not skin
Are we trying to collect white brownie points here? Hhey waze wanginyanyisa oe.
Of course. 🙄 esp the competent ones.
@@PharmersConsulting Did you read the Moratorium in-depth?
We need to be careful of running with what we receive from mainstream media, at this day and age we can’t afford to do that.
Maybe some extensive research and unbiased opinions would have made this video more solution based.
@@tkbheje8876 ok
what the fuck does that even mean, so we must try and get black people points, have you seen how shit this country is since blacks had full control, mara, go to your squatter camp and go read some facts, this is a criminal state, cause all black persons are victims gtfoh .
I think it's Justice
Justice would be to increase the quota greatly. Not ban completely. I think intention is good but method is clunky. Same with BBBee. Also for how long .... 30 years later and has it helped? How much longer do we need to compensate for?
@@PharmersConsulting it will increase only for the minority and the not majority. At least this way the majority will prosper financially
@@walterjrwhite7352 ok
Let's see
@@PharmersConsulting BBEee is different in pharmacy cause its a proffession, yall mean to tell me black pharmacist ( which there is a number of them in Africa) are not hired in dischem cause they are incompetent...if not, them why dont they meet amployment equity requirements...So coroporate is still the hiring based on colour and not compliance and then we also say they must not forced be forced with BEE...what must happened to competent black pharmacist, continue being sidelined even if thy want ti work in retail, in the same breath thes pharmacy retail chains are allowed to be everywhere so they even kill small community pharmacies....This is all undertone racism,thus whole story...we mustnt see colour when blacks we not hired but see colour when its now done to whites who have been on advantage in SA
And 30yrs is very short time to say we can eradicate BEE, its just need to be monitored because it can be missuse sometimes bu Phrm is a profession and ppl that are there all qualified but we all not also come from similar backgrounds...its a lot of factors that ppl chose to keep a blind eye on if its not affecting them.Pharmacy positions still require Afrikaans to be hired in some positions when English is an official language, is that not exclusion....why r we then not adding all 9 languages....yoh akenime, racism is too much in Pharmacy proffession especially on private sectr and we all know it.
@@PharmersConsulting indeed
I sincerely hope that this racist company takes big hit and all people stop shopping there
Karma never skips anyone. They will reap what they have sown
I will not be shopping at Dischem anyone my money is too white for then
Don't act on anger.. they will clear up the information soon
We don't care we are the majority we will continue to shop and support this transformation
I wish I could un see this video, OMG