it's kinda funny to think that Kathleen's fate was sealed the moment she decided not to listen to her brother's words and that she dies by her own words
No her fate was sealed when her dumbass told them to turn around and tried to say some dumbshit instead of shoot when there was a big fucking hoard behind her
I got super confused when i heard the va of tommy in the game playing as him so i thought joel and tommy were gonna meet in kansas city It took me until episode 5 to realize that perry is not tommy
Would make sense as he saw the person that meant everything to him (also as a parent myself, I don’t want to outlive my kids, I think a grandpa Simpson is the only one who liked that idea
It’s sweet and tender that Joel took the extraordinary time and effort to bury Sam and Henry. I think he did that for Ellie’s sake, to demonstrate that THIS is how we treat the dead bodies of those we love.
@@dani12312 it is, I agree. at what point does keeping our humanity become a foolish exercise though? We take time and expend energy to remember those who have died, even in dire situations, unless there is no possibility.
"Now it sounds like stress and fear are causing fibrillation of the heart, which is definitely possible." Indeed it is, it's a crazy little phenomenon commonly known as a "panic attack."
Which plenty of people actually mistake for a heart attack, especially if it's their very first panic attack. I had my first panic attack as a teenager and I thought I was dying.
I am an RN and the first time my oldest had a panic attack, that didn’t click for me for several minutes. She was too young but of course, I thought cardiac issues.
@rafaelalodio5116 unfortunately, the genuine article doesn't care about the circumstances. One minute you're fine, the next you literally feel like you're dying.
What do you mean actor? You didn't know that an actual Bloater showed up on set and the director just told the cameraman to keep filming. Shame about the guy playing Perry though.
I think Joel is having panic attacks. Years of pretty stressful living, constant conflict of some sort, fighting for his life have caught up and having large amounts of (relatively) safe down time then moments of intense conflict or anticipation of conflict could induce heart attack-like symptoms and panic attacks.
I also prefer the theory that Ellie was immune because of something going on with her instead of her infection being a mutation. But that makes too much sense and probably wouldn't have needed extremes like taking a sample of the fungus from her brain to develop a treatment/vaccine/cure/whatever. It always troubled me that the infection made it all the way to her brain but didn't cause any visible signs of brain damage (unless you count her behavior in p2). I know thinking about all that now is pointless because we know what the writer's chose, but it's still a fun exercise of "what if?"
I mean the whole idea that you had to take the brain to study immunity (with a technique that only one guy in the entire world knew, and with a comparatively tiny lab that likely wouldn’t be able to refrigerate vaccines let alone mass produce and disperse them) to basically deus ex machina save the entire world didn’t sit with me. Like “ok hold up isn’t the whole drawback of the blood-brain barrier that you’re not gonna find immune cells up there? If fungus is somehow up there you’re just gonna find fungus-“
@@dr.altoclef9255 Exactly this, like even if we assume they COULD make a vaccine from Ellie there’s not even a snowballs chance in hell of them actually storing and mass producing it.
I really Want to see two actors. One dressed as a bloater And the other as a clicker. And the clicker just goes up to the bloater And calls him father in a clicky voice.
I did like that the preview for the next episode didn't include anything with Joel to make the audience guess if he survived. But the problem is that the source material gives that secret up.
This show is being watched by a MAAAASSSIVE number of people being introduced to The Last of Us through this show so they are new to the story If they weren’t watching the show wouldn’t have had a reason to exist
@Press E again, I dare you That could be the stupidest thing I've heard. If it wasn't for the game and fans of it, we wouldn't have ever gotten a series. So to say it was made for those who don't know the source material is just retarded
I truly deeply love it... he patches in how the real world could support these fictional things via his educated speculation. People like him in research labs create cures for diseases, bypass lethal medical issues to make people live longer, and find ways to fix problems we see as impossible... and he's doing that for our entertainment. Roanoke is a gem.
My biggest issue so far with this series is the bat shank being used in place of dropping onto rebar in the game. It's understandable that Joel's in a shit situation in the game because he can't just lay there and die, but you're not going to upend all that rubble to keep the rebar in so it's a lose-lose situation. Getting shanked like in the show, he could have left it until they had an opportunity to treat it better, which would still suck but it's an entire difference from being literally unable to take the object that punctured you along with you. Inexperience, panic, ignorance all could explain the 'Oh shit' reaction and pulling out the shank but in my opinion it's a stark difference between a stupid move and an otherwise impossible situation, and the idea that a man's been living and surviving in this apocalypse for 20 years and didn't happen to acquire the knowledge to not yank out punctures is a little questionable.
I have a story about my Grandma activating 100% of her strength. It is anecdotal but was witnessed by several neighbors , my grandpa, my mom, and my Aunt. My grandpa was working beneath a car. The jacks he was using broke and the car fell on top of him. He screamed and my aunt and mom ran to see what was wrong, followed by my grandma who told mom and aunt to call 911. My aunt went to do that while my grandma went to the car. Bent down and started trying to pull him out. Obviously that didn’t work, so she grabbed and pulled, hoping to get an inch of clearance so he could shuffle out. As she was pulling, the car came up several inches, then even more until she pulled it up by a couple feet. My mom had to help grandpa out but the car was held up the entire time. Eventually once it was safe she set it down. I think she only pulled a muscle in her shoulder (to be fair that may just be an embellishment, I’m sure she was more injuries than that). She was 5’2” and 100 lbs soaking wet. At the very least there I more than one witness and I’ve heard the story from my mom and aunt on different occasions.
Yeah I doubt it was "A few feet" if it happened at all she just held it up enough for him to be able to wiggle out .cars aren't flat to the ground so he'd probably only need a few extra inches of clearance to get out Again if it happened at all.
With adrenaline someone who is fit could lift the car an inch or two past it’s standard height, that being because the suspension springs are sharing the load and effectively making it lighter for you. Beyond that the car has no more give in the suspension and you CANNOT lift over 1.5tons of metal unless you are INCREDIBLY strong. I’m talking buff mountain man pulling a semi truck kind of strong. Considering the weakening of the elderly bones and especially cartilage, no grandma could lift a normal car any more than an inch without being severely injured.
These videos are always entertaining, I find it interesting to watch your biology breakdowns, especially the virology of how these bacteria and viruses affect your "meatsuit." Love your channel, keep up the good work!
Sad there wasn't a discussion about the kid clicker. First time we've seen one (that I remember, at least) and that darn thing was AGILE. Drop a few of those in a city and not much is getting out.
I think they talk about it in the Last of Us official show podcast. Something about how the bones/joints are still more flexible on kids and the cordyceps takes advantage of that.
I wonder if the cordyceps is sharing nutrients through the ground. Like the giant forest that is all interconnected by fungus in Oregon's Blue Mountains. The fungus gives nutrients and water from other trees and sources to keep it alive/ healthy. Maybe it does the same for the people who are infected and can access the cordyceps root/tendrils.
Lots of different mushrooms such as: truffles,morels etc do form symbiotic relationships with specific species of trees but it could be possible that the cordyceps is doing the exact same thing just on a far larger scale
@@Michaelroni-n-cheese very interesting and intriguing at the same time a vast intertwining network of tree and other plant roots along with the mycelium of many different fungus
fun fact Jackson and the river was filmed 3-6 blocks from my apartment so it was really interesting watching this stuff happen and talking to some of the people involved.
Wait that house was the house from the game. When Ellie is alone after trying to get supplies for Joel. That’s cool. The small background touches are nice.
It's been a long time since I've exclaimed "no!" Out loud while watching a show, but when homie put that gun too his head... this show is just sooooo good.
@@RoanokeGaming i really hope i dont step on a rusty nail for real tho because last time i tried to get a tetanus booster insurance wouldnt cover it and they wanted $279. And i was on poor people insurance because i was covid broke.
It's really interesting how Elle, who's infected and dog, is just not registering her condition. You didn't get that in the original game. I actually enjoy how the show is expanding the lore.
My head canon? I think she must smell different enough that it was hard for the dog to tell. Other infected people probably ran or attacked the dog, so Ellie being nice to him made him decide she was fine.
Hey Roanoke I was wanting too get your opinion on a theory I found on why Elie is immune. That Ellie is not actually infected, at least not in the way everyone thinks. Here's why. While the zombie fungus both in the Last of Us game and tv show is commonly known simply as Cordyceps. that is not the actual name of the fungus. Cordyceps is actually the name of a 'family' of around 400 different fungi. Some of these fungi are toxic, some are completely harmless. But the zombie fungus's actual name is Ophiocordyceps Unilateralis. And it's this type of Cordyceps that we see in the game and the tv show. However, there is another member of the Cordyceps fungal family that REALLY hates its fellow fungi but is actually beneficial for humans, Tolypocladium Inflatum. This type of Cordycep fungus is actually grown and farmed to make medication. A very specific type of medication. Cyclosporin, which is the most commonly immunosuppressant and anti inflamitory drug used to prevent rejection after an organ transplant. And is also used as antifungal medication for even severe fungal infections. Ellie IS heavily infected with Cordyceps which is why she shows as posative on the little testing device. However she is infected with the wrong TYPE of Cordyceps and since those devices were likely designed in a rush they don't just scan for one type of Cordyceps fungus they scan for all of them. But instead of turning Ellie into a zombified rage monster the Tolypocladium Inflatum has actually formed a type of simbiotic relationship withe Ellie's body and is activly fighting off any other fungals that enter her system including the zombie Cordyceps. This would also explain why other infected still veiw her as potential food source and why the dog didn't react to her, because the fungus is a completely different species and isn't actually attacking her body but simply living inside of it. Now people might ask "Well, Ellie was bitten by an infected runner. Wouldn't that mean she'd have to be infected with the zombie Cordyceps?". And the answered would be yes, IF, when she was bitten was when she was originally infected. Tolypocladium Inflatum is a mold like fungus that is commonly found in soil all around the world. All that would need to happen is her diging a hole in some dirt where there's a patch of the mold and her inhale some of the spores, and Prest'o Change'o, Elie is infected with a much friendlier type of Cordyceps that protects her from the zombie Cordyceps when she gets bitten the first time. And the best part is that in the Last of Us 2 video game you can find few recodings from a doctor trying to figure out why Ellie hasn't turned; and a sheet that shows the results of a blood test done on Ellie's blood. From these we learn that the doctor is working in very crude conditions (it is a zombie apocalypse after all) but he is still able to prove that large amounts of Cordyceps fungus are in Ellie's system. And that Ellie's immune system doesn't seem to be fighting back against the fungus like it should be (exspcially since a fever is a common early warning sign of infection) and is actually lower than it should be with her body also showing a much reduced inflamitory response. And that thanks to the crude conditions, and thanks to the doctor's young age at the start of the out break (the doctor is depicted as as late twenties early thirties in the video game) that the doctor either doesn't have a test specific enough to say more than 'Yes, this is a type of Cordyceps' or he doesn't have enough medical knowledge to tell that its a similar but different species of fungus from the zombie Cordyceps. If this theory is true it kind of makes you wonder how many other potentually "immune" people were killed because those little testing devices showed them as infected.
As someone from Kansas City ks thanks for pointing out the state line! Also it was cool seeing all the different sides of the city while watching the episode.
My only exposure to the show has been through your videos, Roanoke, save for a buddy of mine showing me the Bloater scene a few days before this episode came out. What a fantastic monster reveal; the show creators knocked it out of the park. Having never played the game either, my buddy nerding out over how it was reminiscent of one of the setpiece segments was also very cool.
Can say for true that animals smelling differences in human scents due to various reasons by experience. I've actually found mosquitoes are less likely to actually bite me than before I gained epilepsy. Sometimes, dogs do also end up acting extra friendly around me too for some reason. However, different animals will act differently based on the human's smell and why the scent is different. Cats still act like normal cats around me. About Elle's immunity through, I actually suspect it's more likely to be related directly to her nervous system and spinal fluid for a simple reason, Elle can get bitten and survive it. However, she can't use her blood as any form of medicine - so, to me, it seems more likely that what's preventing her from turning must be directly connected into her brain to be able to deal with the brain-blood barrier as needed.
Always love your videos Roanoke! There's an interesting theory that there could be variations of infected yet undiscovered because we see the Shambler in the second game that was formed by the environment of the Pacific Northwest. Say nothing of how the cordyceps may have affected other nations in places like Europe and Asia.
@@xxvaltielxx1789 I'd say Australia would be pretty well off since the fungus needs lots of humidity. So my guess is the infected there stick to caves
If a blood transfusion from Ellie is enough to stop someone from turning then Joel was %1000 justified in killing the fireflies for trying to cut out her brain.
Hey! I love these videos thank you for making them. I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this before but you keep noting how beautiful it is. Most of the show was shot in my home city of Calgary Alberta and the surrounding areas. The scene by the river in the snow particularly reminded me of home I think it might be shot in Kananaskis but that’s just a guess. Thanks again!
What happened to Tommy’s wife? The one who ran the power plant with him in the game? The one he’s using to restore the human race? Ya know, the normal thing to do?
@@Nekavandre there never was a power plant town, they where there to fix it, maintain it and protect it, but they always lived on Jackson, the difference is we never stopped at Jackson in the we just see it on the distance before leaving
@David Molina I was just condensing things for the person who asked. Didn't feel the need to go into a lore synopsis detailing every detail exsctly. The power plant powered the town, I played the game so I'm well aware. Thank you though for the information. I'm sure others who haven't may appreciate that information.
@@Nekavandre yeah sorry, I felt the need to explain cause you made it sound they lived at the power plant, I think the town is also powered by the dam in the show
@David Molina No biggie friend! *gives a thumbs up*. You couldn't have known, afterall we're just 2 strangers online chatting it up. In my case rereading my original comment, I can see how you came to that conclusion. Just wanted to keep things short & sweet for the OP is all. If they'd haved asked for more details clarifying the differences between the game and show I'd happily have provided just as you have.
Joel was 100% having panic attacks/dissociative episodes related to ptsd, he’d always have them after a moment in a conversation was triggering or reminded him of the past or if Ellie, who reminds him of his daughter, was in imminent danger, as someone with cptsd what they depicted in the show is super similar to what I’ve experienced during ptsd emotional flashbacks
15:20 Funny because this scene was filmed at SAIT in Calgary, which is actually a college and not a university 😂 Amazing to see the real life locations I see day to day in a video game adaptation 🙏
I was really disappointed with the whole University section In the game it was this whole section of Joel and Ellie trying to escape because Joel fell into rebar (justifying leaving the wound without the piece causing it, because, you know, is a piece of metal fixed to the concrete ground), and idk it was just a neat set piece, you see him at his most vulnerable physically speaking, and Ellie really showing her abilities In the show the scene kind of happens in seconds and the guys just acted like props/generic goons
All those places are basically along Highway 1 west between Calgary and Banff in Alberta if you’re ever out here Roanoake. Calgary, Canmore, Lake Louise and Banff as well as Edmonton up north.
My favorite hysterical strength story was a teen had a sibling get trapped under a car the teen having been pumped full of the that cocktail of strength grabbed the car gritted their teeth and lifted it enough to get it off. In that process they gritted their teeth so hard they cracked multiple teeth not realizing it cause of the adrenaline. Saved the sibling though so happy ending.
Since no one is mentioning it. You actually do emmit a scent when sick. Mine was in my sophmore year of highschool and i smelled like roadkill after 3 days of a fever of 104f. Being in and out of consciousness isn't very fun but smelling like you're actually dying tends to jolt your mindset into we survive or die right here right now.
Keep up the good content bro. Im not skilled or knowledgeable enough to comment on much of anything but i appreciate you doing what ya do. The roanoke tales have been great, the main channel content has been litty and ive been following you for a year so ill just leave the comment to help the algorithm.
I love your content but can you PLEASE do a video on The Hiss and Polaris from Control? It's a badass Ps4 game from the folks who did Max Payne, and the infection that happens to the people you fight is absolutely *gnarly*
@@RoanokeGaming I love that game so much! I got it free with PS Plus and only bothered playing it cos I was bored after I finished another game, but it blindsided me how great it was and I was completely obsessed right up until I finished it. The depth of the lore provided with all the files you find was awesome and, while I’m not usually a huge completionist, I had to find every single note and file to figure out what was being redacted and put all the pieces together. I can’t remember what it’s called but you find videotapes of a puppet show that explains your powers as you acquire them and it was so damn creepy! Anyway, I would love to see a Roanoke video about Control!
0:50 Which is one of the reasons it's so important for the FBI to keep a field office there actually. As it turns out they keep it very well staffed because by running across town you have made yourself wanted by not Kansas or Misery but the FBI.
That story with the bolder is incredibly similar to something that happened to me. My truck fell on my chest while I was taking off the oil pan. In the bench press position I lifted it off my chest, been messed up ever since.
I wonder how the show will treat the "cure" from Elly since it's been scientifically proven that you can't make a vaccine for a fungal infection and as you said, simply antibodies can potentially cure the infection.
I gathered that the old couple told them to turn around to protect the town of Jackson, not necessarly because it was dangerous. It was only Tommy that actually warned Joel that the way to the university could be dangerous and he was somewhat right.
Thank you for the great content! I love being entertained while learning something 😀 I'm always interested in this scientific stuff but only as far as I can understand it, haha. And your videos help me understand. 🙂
16:55 I was actually rewatching John Wick 3 today and there was that kickass fight scene in that ancient armory at the beginning of the movie (remember that?) and at one of the very last seconds you could see one of the bad guys who was stabbed by Wick still alive, but barely, and the BRILLIANT thing he decided to do was to remove the knife from his stomach. I mean, to be fair to him, he would’ve died either way to that FANTASTIC axe throw to the skull, but if that did *not* happen and John just walked away, he could’ve definitely survived, or at least he would’ve survived longer had he NOT removed the knife. Don’t get me wrong, I love the John Wick series, I love Keanu Reeves and I know you have to suspend your disbelief a little when watching this type of stuff, but watching the movies with a more objective look just makes you realize how stupid some of the minor details and actions really are. Sorry, went on a tangent.
That was the first thing I thought to myself when Joel pulled that bat out. Leave it in, dummy. As I explained to my daughter later, when we were discussing it, he should have a left it there until they could get safely away before removing it. I thought maybe his jacket would’ve provided some padding but I forgot that it had been unbuttoned. So, hopefully that thing didn’t rupture anything vital.
Theres also a confirmed story of a man killing a grizzly that attacked him using only his teeth and a large stick. He arm was stuck down its throat and it was boring into his shoulder, so he bit it in the neck and managed to nick it's jugular. He then proceeded to beat it to death with said stick. Can't remember his name but it's definitely online somewhere
it's kinda funny to think that Kathleen's fate was sealed the moment she decided not to listen to her brother's words and that she dies by her own words
Those who live by the sword....
@@RoanokeGaming die by the sword 😎😎
No her fate was sealed when her dumbass told them to turn around and tried to say some dumbshit instead of shoot when there was a big fucking hoard behind her
@@RoanokeGamingbut the pen is mightier than the sword…
🖋️ 👀!
@@cyb3r_fox114 *Fire has entered the chat*
Fun fact: Kathleen’s boy toy, Perry, is played by Tommy’s VA from the game. Thought that was cool.
Kind of looks like tommy too
@@RoanokeGaming before the whole “head-rippy-offy” part anyway. Lol
No way Tommy’s voice actor is playing that dude 😭
I got super confused when i heard the va of tommy in the game playing as him so i thought joel and tommy were gonna meet in kansas city
It took me until episode 5 to realize that perry is not tommy
Yeah and David's right hand is played by davids VA
Joel has all of the symptoms of ptsd. Quick to anger, flashbacks, panic attacks, and over vigilance.
Would make sense as he saw the person that meant everything to him (also as a parent myself, I don’t want to outlive my kids, I think a grandpa Simpson is the only one who liked that idea
No way the guy who lost his daughter and family, lived through hell on earth and saw the worse in humanity is traumatized by that
Well yeah definitely, I’m sure that hit the night his city was destroyed and daughter murdered
That would apply to just about anyone that survived the out break.
Nice job, columbo
It’s sweet and tender that Joel took the extraordinary time and effort to bury Sam and Henry. I think he did that for Ellie’s sake, to demonstrate that THIS is how we treat the dead bodies of those we love.
bridflu pandemic will happen in 28th /April / 2023 60% death count for humans. World economic Forum head's for all countries central bank's
Waste of time and energy.
@@dani12312 what?
@@bettygreenhansen Burying people in a survival situation.
@@dani12312 it is, I agree. at what point does keeping our humanity become a foolish exercise though? We take time and expend energy to remember those who have died, even in dire situations, unless there is no possibility.
"Now it sounds like stress and fear are causing fibrillation of the heart, which is definitely possible."
Indeed it is, it's a crazy little phenomenon commonly known as a "panic attack."
If people manage to have those under normal circumstances, imagine under Joel’s, it’s totally understandable.
Which plenty of people actually mistake for a heart attack, especially if it's their very first panic attack. I had my first panic attack as a teenager and I thought I was dying.
I am an RN and the first time my oldest had a panic attack, that didn’t click for me for several minutes. She was too young but of course, I thought cardiac issues.
@rafaelalodio5116 unfortunately, the genuine article doesn't care about the circumstances. One minute you're fine, the next you literally feel like you're dying.
@@OverdramaticAngel i was just gonna say, alot of people don't realize that an anxiety attack has the same symptoms as a heart attack. Its horrible...
They shot a lot of the wilderness scenes around Canmore, Alberta. That bridge they cross is a 5 min walk from my aunts house
Ah so Canada! I need to visit there
The one where u can see. The film crew lol
What city is it at?
Canmore.
The actor that played the Bloater did such an amaizing job despite wearing a at least 30 kg suit, also FINALLY SOME REAL BRUTALITY
Also the way the bloater killed Perry is the exact death animation you get when it kills you in game which I thought was awesome
@@Its_Me_Romano that was so cool to watch, and love that attention to detail compared to the original source
YEAHHH!! Basil did awesome as the big fungus
What do you mean actor? You didn't know that an actual Bloater showed up on set and the director just told the cameraman to keep filming.
Shame about the guy playing Perry though.
@@Transilvanian90there was a motion capture actor who also wore a suit for the scene. He’s in the credits
I think Joel is having panic attacks. Years of pretty stressful living, constant conflict of some sort, fighting for his life have caught up and having large amounts of (relatively) safe down time then moments of intense conflict or anticipation of conflict could induce heart attack-like symptoms and panic attacks.
Roanoke this is the most important question of your career… do the reeces puffs song go hard
lol Reese’s Puffs Reese’s Puffs
@@killervic7379eat em up! Eat em up! Eat em up! Eat em up!
Yes.
I got Reese’s puffs in my bowl, now my days on cruise control.
Peanut buttery chocolate flavaaaa
I also prefer the theory that Ellie was immune because of something going on with her instead of her infection being a mutation. But that makes too much sense and probably wouldn't have needed extremes like taking a sample of the fungus from her brain to develop a treatment/vaccine/cure/whatever. It always troubled me that the infection made it all the way to her brain but didn't cause any visible signs of brain damage (unless you count her behavior in p2). I know thinking about all that now is pointless because we know what the writer's chose, but it's still a fun exercise of "what if?"
I mean the whole idea that you had to take the brain to study immunity (with a technique that only one guy in the entire world knew, and with a comparatively tiny lab that likely wouldn’t be able to refrigerate vaccines let alone mass produce and disperse them) to basically deus ex machina save the entire world didn’t sit with me.
Like “ok hold up isn’t the whole drawback of the blood-brain barrier that you’re not gonna find immune cells up there? If fungus is somehow up there you’re just gonna find fungus-“
@@dr.altoclef9255
Exactly this, like even if we assume they COULD make a vaccine from Ellie there’s not even a snowballs chance in hell of them actually storing and mass producing it.
I like Game Theory’s explanation of Ellie having another type of cordyceps in her
I like that the writers took a different route for their protagonist besides "you're the extra special chosen one". That's been done to death.
Being from Kansas City and seeing everything in the show right after driving through downtown not long before just gives me the giggles.
Pretty surreal isn't it?
@Roanoke Gaming it really is. Makes me appreciate this city alot more tbh
Foreal I'm from bluesprings I don't think I've seen that view before
From Kansas too, kept making jokes to my friends that it looked exactly the same during our watch session.
As a Utahn, it's gonna be fuckin wild seeing SLC in the show
4:34 "Fungal big papa."
What a great description for the bloater 🤣
I really Want to see two actors.
One dressed as a bloater And the other as a clicker.
And the clicker just goes up to the bloater And calls him father in a clicky voice.
NOOO HAHAHAHA
I did like that the preview for the next episode didn't include anything with Joel to make the audience guess if he survived. But the problem is that the source material gives that secret up.
Not everyone played the source material dawg
This show is being watched by a MAAAASSSIVE number of people being introduced to The Last of Us through this show so they are new to the story
If they weren’t watching the show wouldn’t have had a reason to exist
Spoilers! I never played the source material!
@Press E again, I dare you That could be the stupidest thing I've heard. If it wasn't for the game and fans of it, we wouldn't have ever gotten a series. So to say it was made for those who don't know the source material is just retarded
@@presseagainidareyou4704 gatekeeping is a good thing
It's always an amazing day when Roanoke posts videos on his channels.
More amazing people watch and greatly appreciated as well!
So that's why the overcast finally dispersed and the sun is shining where I'm at.
@@RoanokeGaming Man I really appreciate you saying that. Have a wonderful weekend coming up here.
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I truly deeply love it... he patches in how the real world could support these fictional things via his educated speculation. People like him in research labs create cures for diseases, bypass lethal medical issues to make people live longer, and find ways to fix problems we see as impossible... and he's doing that for our entertainment. Roanoke is a gem.
My biggest issue so far with this series is the bat shank being used in place of dropping onto rebar in the game. It's understandable that Joel's in a shit situation in the game because he can't just lay there and die, but you're not going to upend all that rubble to keep the rebar in so it's a lose-lose situation. Getting shanked like in the show, he could have left it until they had an opportunity to treat it better, which would still suck but it's an entire difference from being literally unable to take the object that punctured you along with you. Inexperience, panic, ignorance all could explain the 'Oh shit' reaction and pulling out the shank but in my opinion it's a stark difference between a stupid move and an otherwise impossible situation, and the idea that a man's been living and surviving in this apocalypse for 20 years and didn't happen to acquire the knowledge to not yank out punctures is a little questionable.
This!
I have a story about my Grandma activating 100% of her strength. It is anecdotal but was witnessed by several neighbors , my grandpa, my mom, and my Aunt.
My grandpa was working beneath a car. The jacks he was using broke and the car fell on top of him. He screamed and my aunt and mom ran to see what was wrong, followed by my grandma who told mom and aunt to call 911. My aunt went to do that while my grandma went to the car. Bent down and started trying to pull him out. Obviously that didn’t work, so she grabbed and pulled, hoping to get an inch of clearance so he could shuffle out.
As she was pulling, the car came up several inches, then even more until she pulled it up by a couple feet. My mom had to help grandpa out but the car was held up the entire time. Eventually once it was safe she set it down. I think she only pulled a muscle in her shoulder (to be fair that may just be an embellishment, I’m sure she was more injuries than that). She was 5’2” and 100 lbs soaking wet.
At the very least there I more than one witness and I’ve heard the story from my mom and aunt on different occasions.
Thats true love strength. Hope your grandpa was ok after he was rescued
Heard this story a whole lotta tines. Cap
Yeah I doubt it was "A few feet" if it happened at all she just held it up enough for him to be able to wiggle out .cars aren't flat to the ground so he'd probably only need a few extra inches of clearance to get out
Again if it happened at all.
With adrenaline someone who is fit could lift the car an inch or two past it’s standard height, that being because the suspension springs are sharing the load and effectively making it lighter for you. Beyond that the car has no more give in the suspension and you CANNOT lift over 1.5tons of metal unless you are INCREDIBLY strong. I’m talking buff mountain man pulling a semi truck kind of strong. Considering the weakening of the elderly bones and especially cartilage, no grandma could lift a normal car any more than an inch without being severely injured.
He was her kill to make lol that car wasn't going to take it from her (that's what both my mom or wife would say lol)
These videos are always entertaining, I find it interesting to watch your biology breakdowns, especially the virology of how these bacteria and viruses affect your "meatsuit."
Love your channel, keep up the good work!
Thank you for watching! :)
Sad there wasn't a discussion about the kid clicker. First time we've seen one (that I remember, at least) and that darn thing was AGILE. Drop a few of those in a city and not much is getting out.
It makes me wonder now, do people stop aging the moment they got infected? Or was that kid infected as a baby/toddler?
I think they talk about it in the Last of Us official show podcast. Something about how the bones/joints are still more flexible on kids and the cordyceps takes advantage of that.
I mean, I don't see why being a kid would change it realistically from the adult ones.
@@Its_Me_RomanoYou mean to tell me that mommy infected went around the trouble of getting appropriately sized pajamas as the kid grew up?
@@InferryuI feel like the infection would stunt a kid's growth as it absorbs nutrients from their body.
I wonder if the cordyceps is sharing nutrients through the ground. Like the giant forest that is all interconnected by fungus in Oregon's Blue Mountains. The fungus gives nutrients and water from other trees and sources to keep it alive/ healthy. Maybe it does the same for the people who are infected and can access the cordyceps root/tendrils.
Lots of different mushrooms such as: truffles,morels etc do form symbiotic relationships with specific species of trees but it could be possible that the cordyceps is doing the exact same thing just on a far larger scale
It is. I am a mycologist. All mycelium grows for miles, connects to other mycelium and root systems. Forests go much deeper than most people realize.
@@Michaelroni-n-cheese very interesting and intriguing at the same time a vast intertwining network of tree and other plant roots along with the mycelium of many different fungus
@@Michaelroni-n-cheese thank you for your wisdom, Gay Poo Eater.
7:31 They graduated from the "Prometheus school of running away from things."
They really did
Must be because i was thinking of it but when he Said that i Heard a faint ring in the background And thought he put the cinemasins noise in the vid.
Every time I see a bloater I instinctually say "Oh lawd he comin"
fun fact Jackson and the river was filmed 3-6 blocks from my apartment so it was really interesting watching this stuff happen and talking to some of the people involved.
Wait that house was the house from the game. When Ellie is alone after trying to get supplies for Joel. That’s cool. The small background touches are nice.
Idk why, but "Joel starts having a moment with a fence post" made me laugh
Saaame
Always look forward to and appreciate your uploads!
And I appreciate you watching them!
Bonus points for the "prometheus school of running from things" my dude! Great content as always!
It's been a long time since I've exclaimed "no!" Out loud while watching a show, but when homie put that gun too his head... this show is just sooooo good.
I've played the game many times and it's just a moment that always stays so fucked up and sad...
I love that you said tinnitus (ringing in the ears) when you meant tetanus (bad reaction to rusty metal injuries)
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I have tinnitus on the brain because it never stops lmao
@@RoanokeGaming i really hope i dont step on a rusty nail for real tho because last time i tried to get a tetanus booster insurance wouldnt cover it and they wanted $279. And i was on poor people insurance because i was covid broke.
@Ben Swagnerd He was just repairing his boot. I had the same thing happen with some Swiss surplus before. The sole peels off so you just duct tape it
@@RoanokeGaming EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Nobody, absolutely no one:
The snail in your ear: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It's really interesting how Elle, who's infected and dog, is just not registering her condition. You didn't get that in the original game. I actually enjoy how the show is expanding the lore.
My head canon? I think she must smell different enough that it was hard for the dog to tell. Other infected people probably ran or attacked the dog, so Ellie being nice to him made him decide she was fine.
Makes sense since infected still attack her on sight too
They give. A theory in episode 9 which explains why the dog doesn’t smell the fungus
Running zombies continue to prove that these types are the ones who would kill all of us
Romeo says that if it's running, it's not a Zombie. InFeCtEd.
Hey Roanoke I was wanting too get your opinion on a theory I found on why Elie is immune.
That Ellie is not actually infected, at least not in the way everyone thinks. Here's why.
While the zombie fungus both in the Last of Us game and tv show is commonly known simply as Cordyceps. that is not the actual name of the fungus. Cordyceps is actually the name of a 'family' of around 400 different fungi. Some of these fungi are toxic, some are completely harmless. But the zombie fungus's actual name is Ophiocordyceps Unilateralis. And it's this type of Cordyceps that we see in the game and the tv show.
However, there is another member of the Cordyceps fungal family that REALLY hates its fellow fungi but is actually beneficial for humans, Tolypocladium Inflatum. This type of Cordycep fungus is actually grown and farmed to make medication. A very specific type of medication. Cyclosporin, which is the most commonly immunosuppressant and anti inflamitory drug used to prevent rejection after an organ transplant. And is also used as antifungal medication for even severe fungal infections.
Ellie IS heavily infected with Cordyceps which is why she shows as posative on the little testing device. However she is infected with the wrong TYPE of Cordyceps and since those devices were likely designed in a rush they don't just scan for one type of Cordyceps fungus they scan for all of them. But instead of turning Ellie into a zombified rage monster the Tolypocladium Inflatum has actually formed a type of simbiotic relationship withe Ellie's body and is activly fighting off any other fungals that enter her system including the zombie Cordyceps. This would also explain why other infected still veiw her as potential food source and why the dog didn't react to her, because the fungus is a completely different species and isn't actually attacking her body but simply living inside of it.
Now people might ask "Well, Ellie was bitten by an infected runner. Wouldn't that mean she'd have to be infected with the zombie Cordyceps?". And the answered would be yes, IF, when she was bitten was when she was originally infected. Tolypocladium Inflatum is a mold like fungus that is commonly found in soil all around the world. All that would need to happen is her diging a hole in some dirt where there's a patch of the mold and her inhale some of the spores, and Prest'o Change'o, Elie is infected with a much friendlier type of Cordyceps that protects her from the zombie Cordyceps when she gets bitten the first time. And the best part is that in the Last of Us 2 video game you can find few recodings from a doctor trying to figure out why Ellie hasn't turned; and a sheet that shows the results of a blood test done on Ellie's blood. From these we learn that the doctor is working in very crude conditions (it is a zombie apocalypse after all) but he is still able to prove that large amounts of Cordyceps fungus are in Ellie's system. And that Ellie's immune system doesn't seem to be fighting back against the fungus like it should be (exspcially since a fever is a common early warning sign of infection) and is actually lower than it should be with her body also showing a much reduced inflamitory response. And that thanks to the crude conditions, and thanks to the doctor's young age at the start of the out break (the doctor is depicted as as late twenties early thirties in the video game) that the doctor either doesn't have a test specific enough to say more than 'Yes, this is a type of Cordyceps' or he doesn't have enough medical knowledge to tell that its a similar but different species of fungus from the zombie Cordyceps.
If this theory is true it kind of makes you wonder how many other potentually "immune" people were killed because those little testing devices showed them as infected.
Thanks for making a shoutout to the trades!
Love the mycelial network working together. Using humans to develop leadership tactics is incredible. That change is one I enjoy.
Love these videos. Thank you for a good Friday Roanoke and have a blessed weekend.!
You as well bro! Thank you for the well wishes :)
As someone from Kansas City ks thanks for pointing out the state line! Also it was cool seeing all the different sides of the city while watching the episode.
Thanks for putting out entertaining content regularly! I learn a lot watching this channel
I like Roanoke's interpretation that Ellie has a fully symbiotic variant of the cordyceps fungus.
My only exposure to the show has been through your videos, Roanoke, save for a buddy of mine showing me the Bloater scene a few days before this episode came out. What a fantastic monster reveal; the show creators knocked it out of the park. Having never played the game either, my buddy nerding out over how it was reminiscent of one of the setpiece segments was also very cool.
Can say for true that animals smelling differences in human scents due to various reasons by experience. I've actually found mosquitoes are less likely to actually bite me than before I gained epilepsy. Sometimes, dogs do also end up acting extra friendly around me too for some reason. However, different animals will act differently based on the human's smell and why the scent is different. Cats still act like normal cats around me.
About Elle's immunity through, I actually suspect it's more likely to be related directly to her nervous system and spinal fluid for a simple reason, Elle can get bitten and survive it. However, she can't use her blood as any form of medicine - so, to me, it seems more likely that what's preventing her from turning must be directly connected into her brain to be able to deal with the brain-blood barrier as needed.
Always love your videos Roanoke! There's an interesting theory that there could be variations of infected yet undiscovered because we see the Shambler in the second game that was formed by the environment of the Pacific Northwest. Say nothing of how the cordyceps may have affected other nations in places like Europe and Asia.
Australia *[shivers]*
@@xxvaltielxx1789 I'd say Australia would be pretty well off since the fungus needs lots of humidity. So my guess is the infected there stick to caves
If a blood transfusion from Ellie is enough to stop someone from turning then Joel was %1000 justified in killing the fireflies for trying to cut out her brain.
The biology of the Na'vi and avatars would be so cool!!
Joel had a panic attack. It wasn't a heart thing. If you've never had one it makes you feel like ur dying.
It can cause heart palpitations. So it can feel like a heart thing.
They definitely make you feel like you can't breathe, so I can see why Joel would think it's his heart.
It really does. Plenty of people mistake them for a heart attack, especially during their very first panic attack.
That sounds terrible
@@kevinross6235 it is, especially because you can have them randomly and for no reason whatsoever
its so cool to catch a roanoke video earlier
This is the earliest one I ever caught.
When I saw Ellie do the blood thing I got excited for this video
Hey! I love these videos thank you for making them. I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this before but you keep noting how beautiful it is. Most of the show was shot in my home city of Calgary Alberta and the surrounding areas. The scene by the river in the snow particularly reminded me of home I think it might be shot in Kananaskis but that’s just a guess. Thanks again!
What happened to Tommy’s wife? The one who ran the power plant with him in the game? The one he’s using to restore the human race? Ya know, the normal thing to do?
She's now the black lady and the power plant town is now the town in the mountains.
@@Nekavandre there never was a power plant town, they where there to fix it, maintain it and protect it, but they always lived on Jackson, the difference is we never stopped at Jackson in the we just see it on the distance before leaving
@David Molina I was just condensing things for the person who asked.
Didn't feel the need to go into a lore synopsis detailing every detail exsctly.
The power plant powered the town, I played the game so I'm well aware. Thank you though for the information. I'm sure others who haven't may appreciate that information.
@@Nekavandre yeah sorry, I felt the need to explain cause you made it sound they lived at the power plant, I think the town is also powered by the dam in the show
@David Molina No biggie friend! *gives a thumbs up*. You couldn't have known, afterall we're just 2 strangers online chatting it up.
In my case rereading my original comment, I can see how you came to that conclusion. Just wanted to keep things short & sweet for the OP is all. If they'd haved asked for more details clarifying the differences between the game and show I'd happily have provided just as you have.
Joel was 100% having panic attacks/dissociative episodes related to ptsd, he’d always have them after a moment in a conversation was triggering or reminded him of the past or if Ellie, who reminds him of his daughter, was in imminent danger, as someone with cptsd what they depicted in the show is super similar to what I’ve experienced during ptsd emotional flashbacks
I couldn't believe it when Joel just yanked the bat out
I loved seeing the bloater. Dude was such a chad in his first appearance and just rocks through Kathleen's group.
A Joel in one was funny, but hurts and brought back so much frustration lol
15:20 Funny because this scene was filmed at SAIT in Calgary, which is actually a college and not a university 😂
Amazing to see the real life locations I see day to day in a video game adaptation 🙏
13:18 "probably like tinnitus?" you would have to stand on something pretty damned hard to get tinnitus from it
Yeah, I did a double take and said to myself, does he mean Tetanus, but I rarely confront the Roanoke.
Makes sense for people in such areas being so tall, it's so they can over time grow tall enough to see over the corn/maize plants in the fields!
I'm gonna need some more of this, especially given the next few episodes
it's been a year now and he never finished the last 3 episodes 😢
I was really disappointed with the whole University section
In the game it was this whole section of Joel and Ellie trying to escape because Joel fell into rebar (justifying leaving the wound without the piece causing it, because, you know, is a piece of metal fixed to the concrete ground), and idk it was just a neat set piece, you see him at his most vulnerable physically speaking, and Ellie really showing her abilities
In the show the scene kind of happens in seconds and the guys just acted like props/generic goons
And that was really neat.....for a video game section
@@boshwa20 yeah we get it, you like it, but both of us didn’t.
10:29 When Ellie walk outside from this stranger's house, she casually took the rabbit. That is really funny 😂😂😂 hahaha
All those places are basically along Highway 1 west between Calgary and Banff in Alberta if you’re ever out here Roanoake. Calgary, Canmore, Lake Louise and Banff as well as Edmonton up north.
I love how the random spitballing over Joel basically ended in "he's scared enough that his heart isn't working right anymore"
My favorite hysterical strength story was a teen had a sibling get trapped under a car the teen having been pumped full of the that cocktail of strength grabbed the car gritted their teeth and lifted it enough to get it off. In that process they gritted their teeth so hard they cracked multiple teeth not realizing it cause of the adrenaline. Saved the sibling though so happy ending.
That settlement reference made me do a double take, dang Preston Garvey 5:00
Good to see kansas city get explained, i live near there and i constantly have to explain it
I'm glad I'm not the only one who enjoyed the bloater tearing Terry's head off 😅
Since no one is mentioning it. You actually do emmit a scent when sick. Mine was in my sophmore year of highschool and i smelled like roadkill after 3 days of a fever of 104f. Being in and out of consciousness isn't very fun but smelling like you're actually dying tends to jolt your mindset into we survive or die right here right now.
Keep up the good content bro. Im not skilled or knowledgeable enough to comment on much of anything but i appreciate you doing what ya do. The roanoke tales have been great, the main channel content has been litty and ive been following you for a year so ill just leave the comment to help the algorithm.
"I'm connecting with Gen z"made me die love your content and can't wait to see more!
Thank you for pointing out communes only work with smaller collections of people
hace been waiting for this video! so hype
Hope you enjoy!
I love your content but can you PLEASE do a video on The Hiss and Polaris from Control? It's a badass Ps4 game from the folks who did Max Payne, and the infection that happens to the people you fight is absolutely *gnarly*
I can check it out!
@@RoanokeGaming I love that game so much! I got it free with PS Plus and only bothered playing it cos I was bored after I finished another game, but it blindsided me how great it was and I was completely obsessed right up until I finished it. The depth of the lore provided with all the files you find was awesome and, while I’m not usually a huge completionist, I had to find every single note and file to figure out what was being redacted and put all the pieces together. I can’t remember what it’s called but you find videotapes of a puppet show that explains your powers as you acquire them and it was so damn creepy! Anyway, I would love to see a Roanoke video about Control!
@Catherine Holmes the lore is wild, it goes so deep and has alot of potential as a series! Fingers crossed for Control 2 at some point.
The Prometheus School of Running Away From Things
That's what makes the Berserker Armor so sick, it removes those bodily limitations
0:50 Which is one of the reasons it's so important for the FBI to keep a field office there actually. As it turns out they keep it very well staffed because by running across town you have made yourself wanted by not Kansas or Misery but the FBI.
1:22 I can’t believe you used his picture for this.
Henry did say "Welcome to Killer City" and Killer City is the nickname the citizens of Kansas City, Missouri have given to their home.
Dude, the "fun guy" joke made me laugh for 5 minutes straight
A JOEL in one.
This is art
"Me AF whenever someone comes into my lab." Roanoke...a man of the young people 😂
They were screwed from the beginning
They had to choose between federa super karen and a bloater
Bloater preferable
@@RoanokeGaming agreed
It was flimied in Alberta, Canada...between Edmonton and Calgary.
5:06
This man making a fallout 4 reference in this day and age😆
That story with the bolder is incredibly similar to something that happened to me. My truck fell on my chest while I was taking off the oil pan. In the bench press position I lifted it off my chest, been messed up ever since.
Yay Roanoke, love these deep dives into this fungal infection.
"Qualified short kings" had me dying of laughter. Thank you
Please do a video on the biology and physiology and morphology on the parasites from parasite the maximum
Great video! Can't wait to see more!
I wonder how the show will treat the "cure" from Elly since it's been scientifically proven that you can't make a vaccine for a fungal infection and as you said, simply antibodies can potentially cure the infection.
They want to suck the antibody juices straight from her brain?
Bloater really is just the warden from Minecraft 💀
I gathered that the old couple told them to turn around to protect the town of Jackson, not necessarly because it was dangerous. It was only Tommy that actually warned Joel that the way to the university could be dangerous and he was somewhat right.
Fun fact the old man is the VA of rain falls from red dead redemption 2
Thank you for the great content! I love being entertained while learning something 😀 I'm always interested in this scientific stuff but only as far as I can understand it, haha. And your videos help me understand. 🙂
finally something thats not a damn short
Texarkana is like that too; state line runs through it.
Wish Gorda existed, thatd be a dope town name
16:55 I was actually rewatching John Wick 3 today and there was that kickass fight scene in that ancient armory at the beginning of the movie (remember that?) and at one of the very last seconds you could see one of the bad guys who was stabbed by Wick still alive, but barely, and the BRILLIANT thing he decided to do was to remove the knife from his stomach. I mean, to be fair to him, he would’ve died either way to that FANTASTIC axe throw to the skull, but if that did *not* happen and John just walked away, he could’ve definitely survived, or at least he would’ve survived longer had he NOT removed the knife.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the John Wick series, I love Keanu Reeves and I know you have to suspend your disbelief a little when watching this type of stuff, but watching the movies with a more objective look just makes you realize how stupid some of the minor details and actions really are. Sorry, went on a tangent.
21:00 also why soldiers tend to break down younger
That was the first thing I thought to myself when Joel pulled that bat out. Leave it in, dummy. As I explained to my daughter later, when we were discussing it, he should have a left it there until they could get safely away before removing it. I thought maybe his jacket would’ve provided some padding but I forgot that it had been unbuttoned. So, hopefully that thing didn’t rupture anything vital.
Theres also a confirmed story of a man killing a grizzly that attacked him using only his teeth and a large stick. He arm was stuck down its throat and it was boring into his shoulder, so he bit it in the neck and managed to nick it's jugular. He then proceeded to beat it to death with said stick. Can't remember his name but it's definitely online somewhere
"Nostalgia is stored in the testicles."
-Bilbo Baggins
Women don't have nostalgia.
20:22 Scandinavian blood
My man really went Chris Redfield with that Boulder
I always love your videos Roanoke, thanks for uploading!
Aaaaa amazing video roa love youuu