Bold of Melon to wear that shirt. It’s clearly a diss to chance the rapper as he usually wears the number 3 but melon is wearing 4 which symbolizes that he is above chance and is a superior person.
And Michael Balzary believes he is a better Flea than the bass believes Davey504 can slap it around like Susan from Blank Man?!... ‘Tis nothing more than true lies in clever disguise. No dog likes a flea... gross!
@@AfferbeckBeats they are awesome but you have to consider popularity. Rhcp became a mainstream band and the songs as a whole add to the quality basslines. But jamiquorai is awesome as well
I think Flea is held in an adequately high regard, he introduced slapping to the masses and fused Hardcore punk with jazz and funk to create a completely unique style of playing that is often imitated, but never replicated. He absolutely deserves to be in the top 10 for impact, influence and technical mastery, but maybe 2 is a stretch.
I always think it's stupid how people try to compare rock bassists like Flea to people like Jaco, whose job was to essentially solo and improvise. Flea is not only serving the song in RHCP, but often standing out and there's no doubting that he's very recognisable compared to most bassists.
I think Flea isn't appreciated so much for his standalone skills as for his chemistry with other members. He's kinda a model for what a bassist should be to an average band.
And one of the reasons I like him so much is his presence. I know a bassist is incredibly important for a music even if you can't really "hear" him. But the problem is, in a lot of banda, the bass is not really present in the song. They kinda just blend in with the guitar and doesn't have a sound of their own. I love how Flea just take the spot, as a guitarrist would do in his place.
Absolutely. I think if the list were “Favorite Bassists” or “most popular” that rating would be completely accurate. And maybe the list is arranged by weighing different aspects and adding them all up. I agree, the perception is that bassists are lesser parts of the band, but it can add so much when it’s not just an after thought. In fact, with modern mix trends, it seems like bass is probably more important than guitar in pop music.
People always confuse complexity and musicality. Pastorius can be a bass god but must of the time his lines are just technically fast or just difficult for the sake of it, while Flea is almost entirely lyrical in his playing. He's all about being musical, not technical. Many times he acts like a second guitarists, not like a mere bass like to support the drums. This what I don't like about normal people debating about music. You have to be a musician and have band playing experience to understand these things. I can't go to a medical forum and start giving my opinion on oncology, can I? Almost nobody understands this...
Despair what about Jaco’s work with Joni? He always hung in the background when it was more necessary. Shit man, most of the stuff from Heavy Weather wasn’t all that overly complex except for like Teen Town.
Native english-speaking people listening french music without understanding the lyrics reminds me a lot when i was 10 and didn't understand what the hell Linkin Park or Iron Maiden where yelling about back then
This is me with J-Rock or J-Metal. I still listen to them because of their musical arrangements. I still don't understand Japanese till to this day though.
I don't think that list would lend any credence to their work, although I would be interested to hear Anthony talk about their albums. Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, The White Album, and Abbey Road are all transcendental masterpieces and I honestly can't pick a favourite.
Mine 1. Abbey Road 2. Revolver 3. White 4. Sgt Pepper 5. Magical Mystery Tour 6. Rubber Soul 7. Hard Day's Night 8. Let it Be 9. Help! 10. Beatles for sale 11. With the Beatles 12. Please Please Me 13. Yellow Submarine
Spam singles My list, from worst to best: 13. Yellow Submarine 12. With the Beatles 11. Beatles for Sale 10. Please Please Me 9. A Hard Day’s Night 8. Let It Be 7. Magical Mystery Tour 6. The Beatles - “The White Album” 5. Help! 4. Rubber Soul 3. Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band 2. Abbey Road 1. Revolver
@David Carlamere Anthony's top 10: 1. Angelic 2 the Core 2. Speedin Bullet 2 Heaven 3. The Big Day 4. Peppa Pig's first album 5. Total Xanarchy 6. Supermarket 7. Angelic 2 the core (deluxe edition) 8. Confessions of a dangerous mind 9. Father of Asahd 10. MBDTF
The guy from King Crimson certainly is underrated when even the person saying he's underrated call him "the guy from King Crimson". (Also, I'm curious wich one they're talking about.)
R0DisG0D it must be tony levin. He is responsible for much of the bass on peter Gabriel’s records. Check out his project called ‘stick men’ for his innovative techniques and songwriting.
@@jeancivitatem1507 I wouldn’t underestimate Greg Lake either though. He may not have been as technically innovative as Levin but he’s certainly got underrated talent
*"To me I feel like TPAB was the next, post MBDTF, album to be obviously blatantly a 10 "* with the *next* here implying that MBDTF was the previous [album to be obviously a 10...]. we did it boys, right outta the melon's mouth. (on the other hand though, it happens at the 06:00 minute mark 🤔🤔 )
@Miasma I understand that, but he was saying that MBDTF is on par in a way to TPAB. Obviously he didn't mean it was a 10, but he clearly has changed his opinion a bit.
@@proctologicalprincess Yeah I agree, he's definitely showed that he underrated the album at the time. However, unlikely that he would ever go back and change the score
Big Flea fan here. If you watch his live clips with Fruciante during the Californiacation era, his improv is simple melodically perfect. People get caught up in technical ability but under appreciate the music that the artist is contributing to overall music.
ette Id definitely call Flea overrated. Not a bash against him though, I think it's just a product of people not really paying attention to bass in songs, but due to fleas wild style and presence the bassist actually gets a bit of light. Just a take
Flea is the reason so many kids pick up bass, and I can vouch for myself and others. As far as greatest bass players imo, I’d put Jaco, Jamerson, Ron Carter, etc much higher, but he’s a pivotal figure in the evolution of the instrument
I don't think the guy was saying he was bad or not deserving of being on the greatest bass players of all time but more the fact he got 2nd and above the people who he mentioned.
I think Victor Wooten is a little bit overrated but so as many other good artists. But flea is not overrated, the only ones who gives him a 10000/10 aren't even fans of the chills the real fans just give him a 1000/10.
The second point can easily be said about Sigur Ros's () album, because it's in gibberish and still holds a heavy emotional weight even though nobody can understand the lyrics
To a degree I mean Jaco was like his first major inspiration but like everyone post Jaco at some point has been influenced by him he’s one of the best musicians of all time. So it’s worth looking for his sound in the little areas of players.
i got into dream theater like a year ago and went through their discography all the way up until 2003 Train of Thought album. Before that, their music was becoming a favorite of mine. it was tasteful, well thought out metal that was dynamic and they really knew how to write a great crescendo. once i listened to Train of Thought it was clear they were prioritizing musicianship over songwriting. but don't discredit the music they wrote pre 2003. it was very passionate and emotional stuff. songs like Scarred and Learning to Live got me through rough patches of my life, and the stuff from their debut album and Awake are some of the most unique sounding metal I have ever heard. The keyboard work on the first album is amazing with tracks like the Ones who Help to Set the sun.
DT is one of the least consistent bands ever. They've had maybe two albums worth of good songs in a 30 year discography. They are all absurdly talented but their music is mostly soulless technical wank. They suck for the same reason that Tech Death sucks.
How can people still not appreciate IGOR's deliberate creative productions? I think the only viable concern is how it would translate when performed live or something. Mixing is an art form that can be experimented with as well, people!
me listening to cool beat with a foreign vocal sample: person who understands the language of the sample wondering why im dancing to somebody saying "fuck me in the" for two straight minutes
Flea helped to put together one of the most unique sounding bands in RHCP, and it’s in large part due to his bass play. He’s hardly overrated, he’s one of the most important bassists of all time.
Being able to understand the lyrics doesn't make the singing not be an "instrument". The vocal melody, rythm and technique doesn't suddenly disappear If you understand the lyrics. It's about what you pay the most attention to, IF you can't pay attention to the entirety of the music.
1:47 Anthony's response here is the reason why I love Sigur Ros so much. It's the same concept, where the lyrics are used more as another texture and instrument rather than a medium for telling a story. The only difference is that with Sigur Ros, nobody knows what they're saying because they literally made up their own language. I know it's based heavily on Icelandic, but even then the translations are almost always off.
On the whole reaction channels I personally get a kick out of seeing younger people, some unfamiliar with some genres getting exposed to new kinds of music. It’s like giving your friend a pair of headphones and saying “ayy check out this band” and they go “wow. I normally listen to rap but this metal song is really fucking dope. I see the similarities of blah blah blah” I don’t know that’s just me. Also vocal coaches reacting to a video and commenting and deconstructing a singers vocal ability and their techniques is kind of dope too.
I don't know I don't really like RHCP but I think Flea is super talented I'm conflicted... but... I honestly have to agree wholeheartedly. Also that French music take is completely idiotic.
There's a whole subset of recent french music for which that's true though. I think Anthony took in in reference to classics, idk what the original was about, but it holds up for a subset - aesthetic, dreamy, slow french pop. We have a ton of those and lyrics are often generic.
Yeah I agree wholeheartedly about the French take. If you like music without words, that's fine. You can listen to a capella and stuff. But just saying "french music is better because I don't know french and thus I have no idea what they're saying so I don't have to focus on lyrics" is pretty dumb. That's like saying all automatic cars are better because you don't know how to change the gears and thus changing gears is an irrelevant and inferior aspect of driving a car. The only difference in that analogy is that lyrics are fairly essential to music and manual transmission is not essential to cars.
@@HyenaFox Exactly!!! Melody and repetition is universal in MOST music. And to completely disregard lyrics because they aren't clear or you can't understand them makes it pretty clear where you stand with how you deconstruct a song.
5:23 I dont think its necesarily that Pitchforks standards for a 10/10 album have gone up buts its more so that the vast majority of the `10's they give are given long after those albums were released. So those are more so classic records. So I'd assume they give that score based on the quality and the influence those records would have on the genre its in moving forward. But when reviewing contemporary records, they can only go off the quality cause the long term impact it will have is almost impossible to know right then. But for old records, their influence is more or less established.
A few nights ago I had a dream where I went to one of your live shows and I bought a vinyl for mbdtf but the cover was your t shirt design. Anthony please stop beaming these dreams into my head I can't afford flying to the east coast and going to one of your shows
Pitchfork retcons some albums to 10/10, or at least they have before in the case of Neutral Milk Hotel. They also want their 10 to be super prestigious, and I feel like they're purposely lowballing so that they can adjust scores later when an album is more of a consensus 10/10, TPAB being one of those albums.
It's super cheap, but I guess they can at least admit they made some bad reviews in the past by doing it... sort of. They're definitely gonna bump The Money Store and TPAB up to 10s at some point. They also have a tendency to use a remaster or special edition as an excuse to massively bump up a score. I think they gave Wilco's AM a really low score originally and ended up bumping it up to a 9.2 or something when they re-released it.
“The bassist from King Crimson” Oh fuck, that’s like 7 dudes. Two dudes at the same time at one point. And at least 3 of them are in my top ten bassists.
I took mushrooms with my friends in the woods and my friend played RHCP for about two hours in a nearby tent and now I have a type of PTSD when I hear slap bass.
Strange enough, there was a thing I saw where Flea was playin some real serious Jazz lines and even some bass versions (transposed of course) of classical numbers. It gave me more respect for him than I already had (being a bass player myself).
Haha that's pretty cool dude but you misspelled TOOL - Fear Inoculum ALBUM REVIEW. Plus you uploaded the wrong vid on the wrong channel. Sorry for not making it clear.
Flea could have worked on just bssm and itd still be enough work from him to where I'd still say hes one of the most creative bassist ever. Underrated bass player tho: aaron "pnut" Willis.
I'm not usually a fan of reaction videos, but I find there are some great music reaction channels that are great and give a lot of insight into said song. My favorite right now is the charismatic voice. She is a vocal coach who loves to focus on what makes a singer unique and / or themselves. She's informative and just kind of a chill person.
10:42 I'd love to enjoy In The Aeroplane Over The Sea but the mixing is making it a tedious chore. I know it's an old indie record and all, but the mix is overpowering/overshadowing the songs hiding the individual essence of the tracks. Unless there's some remastered version I'm not aware of.
I'll never understand how people are talking about music like its some competition. 'The best' what? It doesn't mean anything. The only thing that matters to me is if I enjoy their music or not. I've listened to Flea a lot and I have enjoyed his bass playing for many years. But that rings true for many bass players. No need to rank them or even to compare them.
Fight like a Brave and Nobody Weird Like Me come to mind immediately. Or just listen to Freaky Styley and Uplift Mofo Party Plan back to back. Goddamn the only saving grace of albums like I'm With You is Flea. No other bassist could make me re-listen to I'm With You hahaha
The Pitchfork question is interesting. It's been 9 years since the last perfect score and I think the more time that goes on the harder it is for individual reviewers at Pitchfork to give an album a 10. They'd kind of be making history.
Dream theater one is literally untrue. Whoever said that obviously hasn’t heard enough of their music. Give them a listen and say that and you’re still wrong.
I don't want to be all, "Their options are wrong!!!!1!11" but that take does come off as someone who heard Dance of Eternity once without context and decided "This band is nothing but wankery"
There are bassists that are more technically advanced than flea but flea is very creative and always finds a bassline that suits the song very well, which is an ability that is underrated in my opinion.
Almost all of the mentioned large numbers of 10/10s from Pitchfork for 90s and 2000s albums were retrospective scores, not contemporary, they only ever actually gave a 10/10 to OK Computer in their 90s days and Kid A in the 2000s, all the rest were later re-reviews. The only album they gave a 10 in the 2010s was MBDTF, but given that it didn't top their albums of the 2010s list means that at the very least they think Frank's Blonde was also a 10, even though its not the score they initially gave it (but most likely many others, maybe even all of the records that made the Top 25 on that list are meant to be seen as retroactive 10/10s).
Naw man this is not really a good argument because these lists clearly take musical influence into account. Fleas playing has been massively influential and his interplay with the guitarist in the band showed so many people how the bassist can play more of a leading role in mainstream music without being overpowering. If these lists were merely about technical skill then why the heck would paul McCartney or Flea or Entwistle make them when you could probably find 10 ppl at Berkeley who are technically better?
I personally see him to bass as Jimi Hendrix was to guitar just something different about it their approach to their instruments and the energy you feel coming from it. That being said good view points definitely gained a viewer for your channel
I love Flea's energy and attitude and enjoyed him during the early days when RHCP was more of a funk band but his style started to look more out of place when they went pop
Bold of Melon to wear that shirt. It’s clearly a diss to chance the rapper as he usually wears the number 3 but melon is wearing 4 which symbolizes that he is above chance and is a superior person.
Was searching for this in the comments, exactly what I thought
small if fake
And race
Melon is only better than Chance at rapping.
😂😂
This dude looks like he's straight outta Animal Crossing
You’re just mad that flea got number 2 and got millions, and you got 4th best bassist and only got a T-shirt for it
Dope ass shirt tho
Chance the rapper came third
At least melon has a shirt. He'll flea only has a sock sometimes.
@@ChampionBuddhaBoy Chance the Bassist
Daniel James I love my wife!
Anthony rejects the Make A Wish Foundation's attempt to fulfill a dying child's wish of hearing his leaked album.
Eternal Atake next millennium
only time this joke is funny because he technically said that lol
I thought this was about Anthony Kiedis before reading the replies and watching the video lol.
As usual Needle is right. How would hearing a leaked album or track make your afterlife any better?
anthony keidis would totally do that..
Yeah we get it melon, you think you are a better bass player than Flea
Really, where does he think that?
@@MrGyl666 Not sure if you noticed. But it was a joke.
MrGyl666 you must be new here
@@mccullsn No, I'm old here.
And Michael Balzary believes he is a better Flea than the bass believes Davey504 can slap it around like Susan from Blank Man?!... ‘Tis nothing more than true lies in clever disguise. No dog likes a flea... gross!
I don’t think any of your opinions took into account the fact that logic is both black AND white
i got black, i got white, what you want
Chance the rapper is married
Aaron A420 apparently it does since he wanted to be a little white girl more than anything
Let’s argue: Anthony Fantano is an overrated bassist
ThatKidWhoLiesAboutHisAge OnTheInternet 🙃
I... Agree
Melon is the sexiest fascist
I beg to differ.
That goes to Dave504
Flea: I fear no man. But that thing
*clothes*
It scares me
Flea is probably considered so highly because he was a lot of peoples first experience with harder bass techniques in mainstream music
I think Jamiroquai is a similar situation but you never hear about Stuart Zender's bass
les claypool was my first experience with slapping and i think he's a lot more talented than flea
@@AfferbeckBeats they are awesome but you have to consider popularity. Rhcp became a mainstream band and the songs as a whole add to the quality basslines. But jamiquorai is awesome as well
Douchy white college kids in the 1990s
hard knocklife it’s a damn shame Jamiroquai isn’t more popular. They’re still putting out great music today
The number on your shirt is the number of family members you’ve taken from me
huh
@@elishazigman770 stop acting in denial. This is a serious problem.
Anthony’s shirt indicates this episode is about a light 4
Imagine a TH-cam channel that reviewed Fantano reviews
I don't think you understand what you just did Zak
How’d you gather that??
Light to decent 4 or just light 4
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I think Flea is held in an adequately high regard, he introduced slapping to the masses and fused Hardcore punk with jazz and funk to create a completely unique style of playing that is often imitated, but never replicated. He absolutely deserves to be in the top 10 for impact, influence and technical mastery, but maybe 2 is a stretch.
Because all the funk of the 70's never happened.
Yep. Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) was released in December 1969 and was a number one pop hit when Flea was 7.
*says the bassist from king crimson is better than flea*
*also doesn’t even know Tony Levin’s name*
Or Greg Lake and/or John Wetton.
Z Gray Music - Tony Levin’s baldness is the secret of his greatness.
@@mysticfez6857 or Boz Burrell, or Gordon Haskell...
Just in this thread to get the general bassists consensus on the Ol' Marky Miller
I saw that and I was thinking "could you be more specific???"
But yeah, Tony Levin is great...
I always think it's stupid how people try to compare rock bassists like Flea to people like Jaco, whose job was to essentially solo and improvise. Flea is not only serving the song in RHCP, but often standing out and there's no doubting that he's very recognisable compared to most bassists.
I think Flea isn't appreciated so much for his standalone skills as for his chemistry with other members. He's kinda a model for what a bassist should be to an average band.
And one of the reasons I like him so much is his presence. I know a bassist is incredibly important for a music even if you can't really "hear" him. But the problem is, in a lot of banda, the bass is not really present in the song. They kinda just blend in with the guitar and doesn't have a sound of their own.
I love how Flea just take the spot, as a guitarrist would do in his place.
Absolutely. I think if the list were “Favorite Bassists” or “most popular” that rating would be completely accurate. And maybe the list is arranged by weighing different aspects and adding them all up. I agree, the perception is that bassists are lesser parts of the band, but it can add so much when it’s not just an after thought. In fact, with modern mix trends, it seems like bass is probably more important than guitar in pop music.
People always confuse complexity and musicality. Pastorius can be a bass god but must of the time his lines are just technically fast or just difficult for the sake of it, while Flea is almost entirely lyrical in his playing. He's all about being musical, not technical. Many times he acts like a second guitarists, not like a mere bass like to support the drums. This what I don't like about normal people debating about music. You have to be a musician and have band playing experience to understand these things. I can't go to a medical forum and start giving my opinion on oncology, can I? Almost nobody understands this...
Despair what about Jaco’s work with Joni? He always hung in the background when it was more necessary. Shit man, most of the stuff from Heavy Weather wasn’t all that overly complex except for like Teen Town.
I think JPJ is a WAay better example for what an average bassist should be for a band
Have you heard Tool's new album "To Pimp A Butterfly" yet?
You're a tool. Screw you
Marlaina Morey MBDTF is dogshit tho
@@bigphatty5298 *You're
@@NealBones what are you talking about
@@recipoldinasty I like Kanye and I like songs off there but no where near my favorite
Anthony looks like a T H I C C linebacker today with that jersey
LSUthony Tigertano
Batonthony Rougetano
*THICCTHONY FATANO*
He's getting fat. I wouldn't take it so lightly making memes. He should take care of his health.
Out here looking like Vikings Legend Brett Favre
" I'd rather have the German Army in front of me then the French army behind me"........Anthony Fantano 1942
Person: Says thing
Melon: No.
you looking for lets agree i think
Stop, don't infest Melon's holy comment section with this ungodly shit of a dead meme.
Native english-speaking people listening french music without understanding the lyrics reminds me a lot when i was 10 and didn't understand what the hell Linkin Park or Iron Maiden where yelling about back then
bruh same
Great profile picture bro
This is me with J-Rock or J-Metal. I still listen to them because of their musical arrangements. I still don't understand Japanese till to this day though.
Lorenzo Lyle Abadia I’m a weeb and a metal head so I rock j pop/rock all day
Listen to aesop rock, his rapping is in English but his pace and vocabulary make it pretty common for people to take in almost none of the lyrics.
That’s an odd way to spell Fantano in the title...
Shut up baby
Flea is an overrated Fantano?
You're beautiful
Despair go away
@@justmebeingbored1794 Flea is a fantano bassist
If he wasn't wearing his glasses he'd be a Blind Melon.
Consider this: The Beatles worst to best.
Come on Anthony. Please.
julie Only if we get Pink Floyd Worst to Best first.
I don't think that list would lend any credence to their work, although I would be interested to hear Anthony talk about their albums. Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, The White Album, and Abbey Road are all transcendental masterpieces and I honestly can't pick a favourite.
Mine
1. Abbey Road
2. Revolver
3. White
4. Sgt Pepper
5. Magical Mystery Tour
6. Rubber Soul
7. Hard Day's Night
8. Let it Be
9. Help!
10. Beatles for sale
11. With the Beatles
12. Please Please Me
13. Yellow Submarine
Spam singles My list, from worst to best:
13. Yellow Submarine
12. With the Beatles
11. Beatles for Sale
10. Please Please Me
9. A Hard Day’s Night
8. Let It Be
7. Magical Mystery Tour
6. The Beatles - “The White Album”
5. Help!
4. Rubber Soul
3. Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
2. Abbey Road
1. Revolver
@David Carlamere Anthony's top 10:
1. Angelic 2 the Core
2. Speedin Bullet 2 Heaven
3. The Big Day
4. Peppa Pig's first album
5. Total Xanarchy
6. Supermarket
7. Angelic 2 the core (deluxe edition)
8. Confessions of a dangerous mind
9. Father of Asahd
10. MBDTF
Im willing to bet the guy that made the Flea tweet is the same guy in a previous Lets Argue that said nobody really listens to Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Let's argue: fantano is better than theneedledrop
(I'm talking about the channel's content etc.)
Maria fantano’s channel can’t top TheNeddledrop’s best videos, so...no
Thatistheplan was better than both put together
You're joking, right? This guy from the Fantano channel is way better than that guy from TND. Don't know what ur talking 'bout
Facts. Nothing to argue there.
Fantano sounds like somebody mixed a Fanta with an Italian mafia gang.
Anthony hasn't released his album yet because he's waiting for us to die first.
Thundercat is still an underrated bassist. CHANGE MY MIND
Thundercat is fucking amazing.
Travolta approves
I find it hard to find his groove sometimes though
Lime Chili Shrimp ramen is better
Them changes at the tiny desk WHEW
The guy from King Crimson certainly is underrated when even the person saying he's underrated call him "the guy from King Crimson". (Also, I'm curious wich one they're talking about.)
R0DisG0D it must be tony levin. He is responsible for much of the bass on peter Gabriel’s records. Check out his project called ‘stick men’ for his innovative techniques and songwriting.
jean civitatem most king crimson bassists are pretty great, tbf
Keine Geigen mehr wenn wir uns Küssen. Ich vermisse dich schon jetzt !
@@jeancivitatem1507 I wouldn’t underestimate Greg Lake either though. He may not have been as technically innovative as Levin but he’s certainly got underrated talent
Melon, I am very disappointed that my hot take was not included. Go to your room.
*"To me I feel like TPAB was the next, post MBDTF, album to be obviously blatantly a 10 "*
with the *next* here implying that MBDTF was the previous [album to be obviously a 10...].
we did it boys, right outta the melon's mouth.
(on the other hand though, it happens at the 06:00 minute mark 🤔🤔 )
Memes aside, I think this actually shows his changed opinion
Actually I think he is saying that TPAB was chronologicaly the first album that came out after MBTDF that is a 10 to him.
@Miasma I understand that, but he was saying that MBDTF is on par in a way to TPAB. Obviously he didn't mean it was a 10, but he clearly has changed his opinion a bit.
@@proctologicalprincess Yeah I agree, he's definitely showed that he underrated the album at the time. However, unlikely that he would ever go back and change the score
@@bigdickbrutus3363 it would be memed too much so I think he avoids it
Dream theater can absolutely write a good song, just listen to a song like take the time, that has one of the catchiest metal hooks ive ever heard
Kinda disappointed he just agreed to that take without explaining his view, tbh...
They’re just gonna ignore the fact that Metropolis Pt2 exists ig.
Also Distance Over Time is an easy top 5 aoty for me
Jimmy Wyndham I feel like if you showed that tweet to Become The Knight, he’d find that person’s address and slit their throat in their sleep
@@iamthewii4851 me too i feel like he kinda gave lame non answers to a few of the hot takes in this video
@@derekwadas8489 HAHA hopefully hell make a rebuttle video to it or something
Good video Anthony, but you saying you wouldn’t care if i died before hearing your music was a little uncalled for.
oh my god i thought that was one of those 'good video' joke until i reached that part
Chris Squire of Yes is the greatest bass player I know of.
Steve harris from iron maiden is right up there with him
RIP
Yes. Bassists who only play with a pick are the only great ones
@@johnmarcdegaard6589 who cares how they play? it just matters how it sounds
@@johnmarcdegaard6589 who the fuck cares if somebody plays with a pick or not its how they sound that matters
Big Flea fan here. If you watch his live clips with Fruciante during the Californiacation era, his improv is simple melodically perfect. People get caught up in technical ability but under appreciate the music that the artist is contributing to overall music.
Saying flea is overrated really grinds my gears, that’s like saying John Frusciante is the a bad guitarist or that cal isn’t a legend
ette yeah
ette Id definitely call Flea overrated. Not a bash against him though, I think it's just a product of people not really paying attention to bass in songs, but due to fleas wild style and presence the bassist actually gets a bit of light. Just a take
Flea is the reason so many kids pick up bass, and I can vouch for myself and others. As far as greatest bass players imo, I’d put Jaco, Jamerson, Ron Carter, etc much higher, but he’s a pivotal figure in the evolution of the instrument
@@johnmarcdegaard6589 Exactly.
I don't think the guy was saying he was bad or not deserving of being on the greatest bass players of all time but more the fact he got 2nd and above the people who he mentioned.
How did somebody read a list with McCartny at #1 and Flea at #2 and decide Flea was the overrated one here
Hold up... did Melon just say MBDTF was a 10?
We did it boys we can finally go home
Brian Keogh Time to bring the troops home! This war has officially came to an end.
The 6 was right
Quite the opposite, in fact, check his shirt
He showed the score of "Fearless".
@@LukasOfTheLight MBDTF is a mid tier Kanye album. It's boarderline a parody of what he thinks boring normal people consider greatness.
so dissapointed when i see people talking about the best bassist and not even a mention of Victor Wooten
Is that u
I met Victor a few times. He's super humble and a really great guy. I didn't even know he was famous the first time I met him.
Fuck that. Without talkin bout marcus miller.
I think Victor Wooten is a little bit overrated but so as many other good artists. But flea is not overrated, the only ones who gives him a 10000/10 aren't even fans of the chills the real fans just give him a 1000/10.
@@MvsG18 obvious troll
Do 'I Hate Mars Bars'.
Yes.
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@@j.4811 Yes❤
@Anson Hartzler No.
Yes!
The second point can easily be said about Sigur Ros's () album, because it's in gibberish and still holds a heavy emotional weight even though nobody can understand the lyrics
jaco and flea are two completely different types of bassists, kinda hard to compare em.
To a degree I mean Jaco was like his first major inspiration but like everyone post Jaco at some point has been influenced by him he’s one of the best musicians of all time. So it’s worth looking for his sound in the little areas of players.
I personally can't stand the sound of Jaco playing...
TheCivildecay bruh expand your listening his tone is so so beautiful.
@@TheCivildecay WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK
i got into dream theater like a year ago and went through their discography all the way up until 2003 Train of Thought album. Before that, their music was becoming a favorite of mine. it was tasteful, well thought out metal that was dynamic and they really knew how to write a great crescendo. once i listened to Train of Thought it was clear they were prioritizing musicianship over songwriting. but don't discredit the music they wrote pre 2003. it was very passionate and emotional stuff. songs like Scarred and Learning to Live got me through rough patches of my life, and the stuff from their debut album and Awake are some of the most unique sounding metal I have ever heard. The keyboard work on the first album is amazing with tracks like the Ones who Help to Set the sun.
Please give me my family back melon
Daniel Huang im sorry for your loss
He keeps them in his cellar, so he can talk with people face to face.
Don't agree with the DT take. They've had hits and misses, but within that pendulum they've come up with monster records.
federico amadeo Same, I’m not crazy about the band but to say they’ve written zero good songs is some C-grade bullshit.
Portnoy Era is probably peak Dream Theater, Systematic Chaos and Train of Thought are classics imo
@@joanbighorn9778 I would enjoy DT if it weren't for Labrie's annoying as voice
DT is one of the least consistent bands ever. They've had maybe two albums worth of good songs in a 30 year discography. They are all absurdly talented but their music is mostly soulless technical wank. They suck for the same reason that Tech Death sucks.
"from Ohio though, white boi" - Jake paul
The only modern rapper still repping his area. What an absolute role model for musicians everywhere.
I didn't know Brett Favre shaved his head and reviewed music.
Truely a man of many talents.
ZackYep any mention of brett favre in a comment instantly makes it hilarious
Why did you just post an over 13 minutes with just you playing the bass unedited? Pretty clickbait imo.
I'd watch that tbh
How can people still not appreciate IGOR's deliberate creative productions? I think the only viable concern is how it would translate when performed live or something.
Mixing is an art form that can be experimented with as well, people!
Mellon my mom got into a really bad car accident and you have the audacity to just show up to the hospital uninvited?
me listening to cool beat with a foreign vocal sample:
person who understands the language of the sample wondering why im dancing to somebody saying "fuck me in the" for two straight minutes
Flea on I'm Beside you was incredible, mesmerizing bass lines (in love dying, how it ends, strange man)
Flea helped to put together one of the most unique sounding bands in RHCP, and it’s in large part due to his bass play.
He’s hardly overrated, he’s one of the most important bassists of all time.
Flea's musicality is what makes him great in my mind. Even beyond his incredible technical prowess.
Being able to understand the lyrics doesn't make the singing not be an "instrument". The vocal melody, rythm and technique doesn't suddenly disappear If you understand the lyrics. It's about what you pay the most attention to, IF you can't pay attention to the entirety of the music.
The best bassist of the 90's is Les Claypool.
Yup. In popular music for sure.
Les claypool is one of my favorite bassists idc what anyone thinks :)
Primus sucks
John Smith k
@@osamayomama PRIMUS SUCKS!!
Les Claypool is the greatest bassist after John Entwhistle.
@@rudi_tabootie Victor Wooten? Jaco Pastorious?
Goddamn it my Phineas and Ferb/Spongebob take didn’t make the video
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Austin Brown That the Phineas and Ferb theme song was better than the Spongebob theme song
what was your take? Just out of curiosity?
diigdugg what was your take? Just out of curiosity?
diigdugg what was your take? Just out of curiosity?
Austin Brown diigdugg what was your take? Just out of curiosity?
1:47 Anthony's response here is the reason why I love Sigur Ros so much. It's the same concept, where the lyrics are used more as another texture and instrument rather than a medium for telling a story. The only difference is that with Sigur Ros, nobody knows what they're saying because they literally made up their own language. I know it's based heavily on Icelandic, but even then the translations are almost always off.
0:00 Can't wait to see Davie504's "Anthony Fantano plays Bass" video
He did mention it and used this clip in the video too
On the whole reaction channels I personally get a kick out of seeing younger people, some unfamiliar with some genres getting exposed to new kinds of music. It’s like giving your friend a pair of headphones and saying “ayy check out this band” and they go “wow. I normally listen to rap but this metal song is really fucking dope. I see the similarities of blah blah blah” I don’t know that’s just me.
Also vocal coaches reacting to a video and commenting and deconstructing a singers vocal ability and their techniques is kind of dope too.
PsychicAndIce totally agree. I actually made that comment to melon on my IG account. Cheers!
I don't know I don't really like RHCP but I think Flea is super talented I'm conflicted... but... I honestly have to agree wholeheartedly. Also that French music take is completely idiotic.
There's a whole subset of recent french music for which that's true though. I think Anthony took in in reference to classics, idk what the original was about, but it holds up for a subset - aesthetic, dreamy, slow french pop. We have a ton of those and lyrics are often generic.
Patch Work certain songs from the marias come to mind?
Yeah I agree wholeheartedly about the French take.
If you like music without words, that's fine. You can listen to a capella and stuff. But just saying "french music is better because I don't know french and thus I have no idea what they're saying so I don't have to focus on lyrics" is pretty dumb.
That's like saying all automatic cars are better because you don't know how to change the gears and thus changing gears is an irrelevant and inferior aspect of driving a car.
The only difference in that analogy is that lyrics are fairly essential to music and manual transmission is not essential to cars.
@@HyenaFox Exactly!!! Melody and repetition is universal in MOST music. And to completely disregard lyrics because they aren't clear or you can't understand them makes it pretty clear where you stand with how you deconstruct a song.
Dream theaters classic albums are amazing, fight me
His bass playing fits the music PERFECTLY, which is infinitely more important than anything else that a bass player can do
5:23 I dont think its necesarily that Pitchforks standards for a 10/10 album have gone up buts its more so that the vast majority of the `10's they give are given long after those albums were released. So those are more so classic records. So I'd assume they give that score based on the quality and the influence those records would have on the genre its in moving forward. But when reviewing contemporary records, they can only go off the quality cause the long term impact it will have is almost impossible to know right then. But for old records, their influence is more or less established.
A few nights ago I had a dream where I went to one of your live shows and I bought a vinyl for mbdtf but the cover was your t shirt design. Anthony please stop beaming these dreams into my head I can't afford flying to the east coast and going to one of your shows
Pitchfork retcons some albums to 10/10, or at least they have before in the case of Neutral Milk Hotel. They also want their 10 to be super prestigious, and I feel like they're purposely lowballing so that they can adjust scores later when an album is more of a consensus 10/10, TPAB being one of those albums.
Perfect example: pitchfork now gives Weezer-Pinkerton a 10 after it was hated in the late 90s
It's super cheap, but I guess they can at least admit they made some bad reviews in the past by doing it... sort of. They're definitely gonna bump The Money Store and TPAB up to 10s at some point. They also have a tendency to use a remaster or special edition as an excuse to massively bump up a score. I think they gave Wilco's AM a really low score originally and ended up bumping it up to a 9.2 or something when they re-released it.
can you play a walking jazz bassline in the next edition of either let's argue or let's agree?
“The bassist from King Crimson”
Oh fuck, that’s like 7 dudes. Two dudes at the same time at one point. And at least 3 of them are in my top ten bassists.
I took mushrooms with my friends in the woods and my friend played RHCP for about two hours in a nearby tent and now I have a type of PTSD when I hear slap bass.
Strange enough, there was a thing I saw where Flea was playin some real serious Jazz lines and even some bass versions (transposed of course) of classical numbers. It gave me more respect for him than I already had (being a bass player myself).
Thank you for including my leaked music take in your vid.
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When does he use the song?
Haha that's pretty cool dude but you misspelled TOOL - Fear Inoculum ALBUM REVIEW. Plus you uploaded the wrong vid on the wrong channel. Sorry for not making it clear.
Flea could have worked on just bssm and itd still be enough work from him to where I'd still say hes one of the most creative bassist ever.
Underrated bass player tho: aaron "pnut" Willis.
Flea's work with the Mars Volta is amazing though.
LET’S ARGUE: Anthony is one THICC melon
*AGREE
Let’s agree: Anthony is a better rapper than Logic.
I... agree
I'm not usually a fan of reaction videos, but I find there are some great music reaction channels that are great and give a lot of insight into said song. My favorite right now is the charismatic voice. She is a vocal coach who loves to focus on what makes a singer unique and / or themselves. She's informative and just kind of a chill person.
When are you going to review Angelic to the Core by Corey Feldman
10:42 I'd love to enjoy In The Aeroplane Over The Sea but the mixing is making it a tedious chore. I know it's an old indie record and all, but the mix is overpowering/overshadowing the songs hiding the individual essence of the tracks.
Unless there's some remastered version I'm not aware of.
🤔🤔Melon said that MBDTF is a 10 while wearing a shirt with number 4🤔😐
10 - 4 = 6
Shydee Dammit! You beat me to it, haha
I'll never understand how people are talking about music like its some competition. 'The best' what? It doesn't mean anything. The only thing that matters to me is if I enjoy their music or not. I've listened to Flea a lot and I have enjoyed his bass playing for many years. But that rings true for many bass players. No need to rank them or even to compare them.
ehhh i think y’all gotta really dive into rhcp early catalog
Fight like a Brave and Nobody Weird Like Me come to mind immediately. Or just listen to Freaky Styley and Uplift Mofo Party Plan back to back. Goddamn the only saving grace of albums like I'm With You is Flea. No other bassist could make me re-listen to I'm With You hahaha
The Pitchfork question is interesting. It's been 9 years since the last perfect score and I think the more time that goes on the harder it is for individual reviewers at Pitchfork to give an album a 10. They'd kind of be making history.
Honestly on the Tyler point, I get your point however i just like his voice at the natural pitch better in general.
*ABOUT DAMN TIME* Melon!!!! I’ve been waiting for this vid for a few days.
happy to hear Jaco get that love
Dream theater one is literally untrue. Whoever said that obviously hasn’t heard enough of their music. Give them a listen and say that and you’re still wrong.
I don't want to be all, "Their options are wrong!!!!1!11" but that take does come off as someone who heard Dance of Eternity once without context and decided "This band is nothing but wankery"
There are bassists that are more technically advanced than flea but flea is very creative and always finds a bassline that suits the song very well, which is an ability that is underrated in my opinion.
Almost all of the mentioned large numbers of 10/10s from Pitchfork for 90s and 2000s albums were retrospective scores, not contemporary, they only ever actually gave a 10/10 to OK Computer in their 90s days and Kid A in the 2000s, all the rest were later re-reviews. The only album they gave a 10 in the 2010s was MBDTF, but given that it didn't top their albums of the 2010s list means that at the very least they think Frank's Blonde was also a 10, even though its not the score they initially gave it (but most likely many others, maybe even all of the records that made the Top 25 on that list are meant to be seen as retroactive 10/10s).
Dropped a like at 00:03 for that riff
I'm dealing with ear congestion and that sweet bass intro was soothing on my ear thanks melon
Dream Theater has some really great songs and albums
Gustavo Bahia And I think Mike - Become The Knight would say the exact same
Yeah their latest album was pretty good also
Some people don't appreciate complexity in music and just see it as showing off.
A lot of their music goes over the average listeners head, it’s an experience based music
On that reaction video part, the channel Lost in Vegas gave Gojira like an extra 50k monthly listeners I swear
"I'm not a pitchfork reviewer"
Sometimes I wish you were, Melon :/ p4k been ded
Your bass is getting a lot better!! This is probably my favorite "opening bass" you've done so far
lmao i think word for word the exact opposite of what you said about tyler's high-pitched voice
Naw man this is not really a good argument because these lists clearly take musical influence into account. Fleas playing has been massively influential and his interplay with the guitarist in the band showed so many people how the bassist can play more of a leading role in mainstream music without being overpowering. If these lists were merely about technical skill then why the heck would paul McCartney or Flea or Entwistle make them when you could probably find 10 ppl at Berkeley who are technically better?
Confirmed to be in YGS 400 with the Jackground.
I personally see him to bass as Jimi Hendrix was to guitar just something different about it their approach to their instruments and the energy you feel coming from it. That being said good view points definitely gained a viewer for your channel
I can name ten bassists that bring more to the game. I love Flea and he influenced me. No disrespect meant. But yeah, very true
Like seriously, Flea is amazing, but anyone who dares put him above VICTOR WOOTEN deserves a swift purging
I can name 10 bassists which are better than Flea. I just watch any albums I have in my CD collection.
Name 10 then.
The Lonely Traveller John Chancellor
I love Flea's energy and attitude and enjoyed him during the early days when RHCP was more of a funk band but his style started to look more out of place when they went pop