Who wins? 1 Cannon vs Starting Units
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Now i know why pros prefer batteries instead of cannons. These things tickle.
and the more army you have the stronger the battery is since it gives them more time at full fire power before they start to die.
Good guy Winter putting up common knowledge scenarios for rush defense.
Honestly thought the stalkers would lose that lmao.
Game 14 years ago yet still so gooodd.. I hope there will be SC3 soon
I'm like the biggest StarCraft fan out there, but I don't think will ever be a SC3. The story ended and they abandoned it... I hope for something different maybe, this universe deserves so much
devastatingly unlikely
love the OG starcraft music
you don't really like cannons, don't you?
Cine pizda mati le place
So you're SAYING I have a chance!
(brings 6 marines)
When in doibt, Stim A move.
Where is Zealot? Stalkers are not starting units.
Honestly stalkers tend to be more starting units than zealots, which you don't really use before getting charge towards the later part of the game
Static defence in this game is a complete joke, unless you mass them with the only advantage being no supply being used.
Keep in mind its a 150 minerals only. In every situation it was against more expensive army and traded comparable or better.
Its important to note that statics defense in this game is supposed to help you cover your expansions in a cheap and cost efficient manner so that 5 cracklings Don't clear your entire mineral line because you were busy fighting somewhere else
and no production capacity used!
you can use them as mineral sinks.
Protoss sucks
Hey look! Stalkers beat something!!
Most cost effcient trade stalker can take. 125/50 for 150. Worth 😅
@ayayashiba1231 lol! If we factor in cost then I think Stalkers lose to just about anything... except maybe Mutas?
"Starting units"....then uses stalkers, quite expensive units that require one extra tech building.
He probably meant it for a game that's been played for less than 3 minutes. Maybe even less for the 5 zerglings.
It's pretty good info for how to defend an early base/expo, or for how many "starting units" are needed for you to take down a single cannon
You can have 2 stalkers by min 3:00 which is super early. They are also considered starting units. However it would have been interesting to see zealots too.
That's because most people don't use Zealots anymore. I would have liked to see Reapers, Adepts, and Queens though.
Wow canons suck :O
For marines and stalkers, you keep more alive if you micro them. In the case of 2 stalkers, you shouldn't lose any to a single cannon that doesn't have a battery unless the enemy specifically micros the cannon.
Good cannonrushers micro cannons.
Notably, the zerglings also could have used some slight micro. They got in their own way quite a bit, splitting them to get a faster surround results in less losses, even against someone who actually micros the cannon.
what map is this? i have been trying to look for a simulator like this for ages
If you go to the arcade and look up a game called "LOTV unit tester" or something to a similar vain you will find a "game" that is just a unit tester, highly useful!
Stalker dps is so weak, 2 stalker with 250 mineral 100 gas vs canon 150 mineral
But if you pair 2 cannons against 4 stalkers everything changes
Photon Cannon: Not fair
No so easy, now we wanted at least 5400 apm ai control for one cannon
Ahh stop it you're ruining my only strategy as protoss
literally every zerg ever:
"What about it?"
Zealot?where are they 😅
Hidra x Stalker X Some terran unit
zerlings op
True
yes because a 150 mineral structure should be able to completely destroy 200 minerals worth of units with no issue
What is the game mode called?
Cannon needs more range in sc2
Would be to strong in a proxy scenario I think
Show creep colonies!
Towers are worthless lol
Needs a small buff.
8 zergling c'est 4 de production :
Défaut :
Il dois venir au corps à corps.
Avantage :
Il attaque 8 coups à la fois car 8 zerglings
Et 8 barre de vie zergling a tué.
Il reste 3 zergling donc 37.5% des troupes.
Autre cas montrée :
Les stalkers :
il y en a que 2 et donc 2 tir. mais 2 fois de la vie car bouclier en plus.
Il reste presque rien sur le dernier stalker en vie.
Les marines :
Les marines il y en a 5 donc 5 tir à la fois et tape à distance.
Il reste à peine 5 pv sur 1 marine, il reste presque rien.
CONCLUSION : un photon défend mal contre les zerg (race faite pour l'attaque)
Car le photon est une structure donc fixe.
pas récommander contre les zergs.
Si on investie l'argent en zelote plutot que sur le photon le resultat ne serai pas le même.
I miss the blue flamw from B.W 😂
You should have used zealots, instead of stalkers, and why such strange combinations 8-2-5 in terms of the number of units ?
He specifically did the minimum required to win for each race with each of those unit types. Was litterally on purpose.
I could appreciate this more if it is timed and and if it shows how much they would cost as resources. Thanks for your work though
Is there something against which a cannon is ressource efficient ?
The main benefit of the cannon is that it doesn't take up production so technically if your looking for defense the only things that out do it would be bunkers and siege tanks that are much later in the game.
Don't worry too much about it building one cannon can be an efficient way for a lower apm player to prevent stuff even if it dies.
It was resource efficient against everything, if you sum, all waves were more expensive than the cannon
Cannons do a lot. Detect, shoot up, shoot down, they're the best all around static D. They have to be balanced for that reason.
Anything. Just put a shield battery next to it.
8 lings = 200 min, 2 stalker = 250 min/100gas, 5 marines = 250 min. Cannons are strong, if you put a second cannon next to it and maybe a shield battery, you get extremely effective(but static)
Does this mode work with the new all races mod?
Zealots not even on the menu lol
Love the original music