Icy Beverage yeah it confused me cuz how they explained it is like, they edited based that were literally put out as BASES which are made to be edited by others artists, so like, if it’s an actual base and is credited then it’s perfectly fine
I was scrolling as the aforementioned rant was being read, and I saw this post. It did not adequately brace me for what happened a second later when I, too, got hit with "Winston from Overwatch". It was like mentally slamming into a brick wall at 70mph.
FreedomHero4 I love that none of these people understand what "paying for a service" means. They think that all they're paying for is the raw materials involved. Yes, us artists have supernatural powers where we can just squish some stuff together and -- oh, a finished piece. 😂
bazoongi That's insulting to Transformers fans and people with Down Syndrome to compare 'em to *that* guy. No actually though, I only half meant that as a joke. But the thought that having Dowm Syndrome means you can't type correctly is just incorrect.
She gave kittens little crochet hats for a Cinco De Mayo Adoption event 4 days ago. If you have *EVER* seen this comment, go to their account. Edit: corrected gender, and now they also made Grammy & Grumpy hats. All the more reason to go check it out.
just googled what "catherine stitch" is, and seeing how it's queen sized and natural wool i think $400 seems pretty fair edit: wait that actually seems very cheap
*goes to restaurant on opening day and orders meal* 5 years later “Can I get my meal from 5 years ago upgraded for free because it’s not fair that other people get better quality food?”
@ *employee:* But sir/m'am it's scratched. *client:* Whoa?! How dare you refuse my generous offer?! *employee:* You bassicaly just try to change a scratched phone for a new one. How is that even a offer? *client:* You will regret declining my offer! I own for the biggest phone company in Brasil! I can ruin your bussines whit just one phone call! *employee:* Aha, can you, please call from outside? You are making a scene now. *client:* How dare you! I will ruin you, i will- *employee:* Security! Please escort the sir/m'am outside!
Geez that poor crochet person. I work in customer service and I will never understand why the hell people think threats, yelling, or cussing out a stranger will strong arm them into doing anything for you.
I generally try to handle those situations with grace. I have no way of knowing what kind of day that person has had. Maybe someone in their family is really sick or dying? Maybe they just lost their job? However, on that same principle, I also expect to be treated well because that person has no clue what kind of day I’ve had.
Probably because of the term "The customer is always right" Companies would rather give in then get bad reviews. But yeah, it doesn't really work in other situations. I hated having to serve rude customers
+swayingmetal001 I was a cashier at Target a few years back and this woman accused me of charging her more than the price of the item. I calmly explained to her that it was sales tax but she flipped out and asked for a manager. I'm not sure what my manager ended up telling her but it was the weirdest thing I've ever been accused of
RIGHT! I can barely afford a cent. Damm starving “artists” charging $1. You have bills to pay. Me too, bitch. Me too. That is an insane amount of money. I can go to Walmart and get art for free! Art hoes need money to draw. They don’t know their wirth. They are insane. They charge WAY TO MUCH. I will destroy their business.
Y'know ive been thinking they say 1 dollar is too much It could be A.They don't have PayPal or some other method of paying Or B.Theyere just some cheap ass c*nts
Yeah just walk into Joann's on a Tuesday, buy twenty skeins of wool at like 70% off, and don't get paid for the three-to-four weeks of crocheting you're gonna do. Easy.
Luigio Sometimes you just need to drag the situation out: to prove how much of a shitbag the 'potential client' is, and to beautifully thrash them by the end.
2:47 "Hey I bought this brand new car back in 2010 but I noticed the 2018 version is a lot better so can I just have that one for free because its not fair people are paying the same price I paid back in 2010" Yeah cause that's how things work
it could be a nice policy to have a discount for redraws, maybe the people who like your work would be more likely to buy another artwork from you, just to have their treasured commission be up to date. people would probably be more likely to consider commissioning a re-draw if you advertise a discount
Entraya Crosshill ??? But what you have to keep in mind is that usually with an improvement of style comes a much longer time spent on the commission as well as raise of price. Doing a redraw won't take a shorter amount of time, most likely it'll take significantly longer than the old piece it's based on, so why should someone charge less for a piece that is going to take even longer???
why should they discount? its up to the artist dude im not saying they -should-. its not uncommon to have like 20% off sales, or free shipping campaigns, why should they do that? im not an artist so i dont know what the exact reasons are, but i reckon they do these things to make people think 'oh lets buy a poster now, its free shipping', so having a re-draw campaign could be an idea to entice old fans to buy a commission. its just business -ideas- dude dont freak out
I wasn't freaking out, merely stating my opinion, because as an artist myself I wouldn't offer discounts to anyone excepting close friends purely because of the amount of work that goes into it. Sure it's a good business campaign, but unless you had commissions selling consistently most artists couldn't afford to do that kind of thing if it is something they're making a living off. (Retail stores or the like can afford sales like that because they're not the ones sitting there painstaking over a single piece of work for hours, it's much different when it comes to art.) I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing or anything, I honestly just wanted to hear your reasoning because doing that kind of thing for cheaper/free (in the case of the video) isn't something that a lot of artists would consider. Thanks for explaining why you thought that :)
Digital Unity eh, the walmart analogy was the stupidest thing in the video. Walmart is a megacompany, the biggest supermarket corporation ever, having a candybar stolen, a very low value item, means nothing to them. In comparison to the artist, it's making it out like he could make a trillion of those o's, and if one was stolen, he wouldn't notice, making it a low effort proposition. It's making it seem like his art process is much easier than it is.
Hey, lady (not the comment writer, the one in the video): 1. There are Walmarts here in America. Trust me, I know. 2. NO ONE CARES IF YOU LIVE IN AMERICA. PAY FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO PURCHASE.
@@Malus1531 Please, don't tell me.....DON'T TELL ME! You agreed with the guy? The crocheter made some good points but I can see a non-artist or non-creative person doing this. You see, no matter the material, if it's a blanket, a digital drawing that only exists as code, or a goddamn video game or movie, beyond just the costs of making something, there is the cost of your time. No matter what, if you do not WANT to make it, then your time is being wasted making it. Money, or other compensation can help with that, and can make it so your time was worth it. Artists have shit to do. We have LIVES to LIVE. So from your perspective, it is a shit ton for a blanket. But it IS a hand made, full wool (FROM A GODDAMN ANIMAL) and it will take TIME and EFFORT to make. It is just like any job. If YOU are putting in effort, you should be payed for your effort. You can't just do it for the price of the materials, or else you aren't getting ANYTHING out of it. I have tried crotchet, and it DOES take time. And effort. In the end, this was a long-winded speech to one comment letting out the frustration I have with people who think this way. It is not JUST targeted at you, but I do think that you may not think of it as paying for "just a blanket." but paying for the artists time.
@@ReddCrystal My bad I commented after the first segment, before seeing the second half where the artist explained the price breakdown and how long it took. I get what you're saying. It still is a crazy amount to pay for a blanket imo, but I'm not saying he/she is overcharging.
Yeah a super “generous” offer of $70 let’s see, so if the yarn is $160 at full price then you would need a over 50% sale just for the $70 to cover the cost of the wool and then 120-150 hours of stitching without any pay. So that’s what generosity is huh? I see... Ok so now let’s do some math, assuming we give this person $10 an hour (about minimum wage) then it’ll come out to $1360-$1660. Hmmm... ok well since they’re not professional the what about $5 an hour? Let’s see... 120 X 5 + 160 = $760 150 X 5 + 160 = $910 So it should be about $760-$1660 which means that $400 is kind of a steal of a deal!
@Eraclese yeah, i live in connecticut and the minimum wage here is 11, and they're planning on raising it by 1 dollar every year until it gets to 15. it is really expensive to live here, though, so i think it kind of depends on those factors too
@@alchemistrie yeah different states have different minimum wages. Heck what wage is necessary for each city varies as well. However the federal hasn't changed in about 60 or so years. For one city needing a higher minimum, there is a more small town area with lower living cost.
The blanket guy also compared a blanket from walmart, in acrylic, made by a machine in about 15 minutes to a heavy queen sized, complex, handcrafted wool blanket lmao. Yeah the walmart one is cheaper, i wonder why *hmmmmm*
Shadow Of Light For parents, yes, but I hardly doubt they’d want more but a traditional sketch. Friends shouldn’t expect or demand free art but most artists simply gift them art when feeling generous.
"Hey plumber, if you just fix my sink real quick, I'll tell people about you at the office." "Hey carpenter, could you build me a mahogany shelf real quick? I don't have any money, but I'll tell my friends who built it when they come over." "Hey accountant, can you give me a hand with my taxes? I'm a little confused on how to do them, so I'd like to walk through them with you. Please? I'll even pass around a few of your business cards...." That's....that's literally what these people are saying....
"Hey, cook, can you made this dish for me quickly? i have no money" "Hey, you. Get this work done and i will tell my friends about you" "Hey, we need material to build the rocket we need" "Oh ok, here. it will cost you 2 Million dollars" " *Y O U ' R E I n SA n e!* " "Why?" "YOU COULD BUY THIS THING IN [PLACE NAME] FOR [CHEAP PRICE]!" "Then why would you not go there?" "BECUZ AI NED EAT VRY FST, NOW!" " It will cost you 2 million dollars" "OMG, **** YOU!, MY DAD IS THE PRESIDENT AND I WILL SUE THIS PLACE! **** YOU!, WHEN I A BILLIONAIRE I WILL FRIKIN SUE YOU! YOU **** ****** ***** ******** **** !!!" - you have been blocked -
"Hey Government, Can you get rid of my Million dollar fine and my 42163632 second jail sentence, Ill tell myself that you should be elected" -One of the 7.5 billion people on earth "No" -Government "IM FRIENDS WITH THE GOVERNMENT, ILL SUE YA" -One of the 7.5 billion people on earth
As an accountant, I get basically that request multiple times a year, especially people that call me over the phone to help them through their tax return step by step. Along with the oh-so-loved "my [random family member] does them for free" which isn't uncommonly followed by "but they messed it up last time, so I thought I'd try someone else out."
$1 for a chibi drawing isn’t that bad of a price, actually. Probably not a lot of money to make, though, if you plan to make revenue from being an artist.
Did anyone else find the '$70 for a wool blanket' guy so infuriating that they wanted to smash their head against the nearest hard surface? Asking for a friend.
Omfg art is a *LUXURY* item!!! In the beginning, only *kings* and *queens* and other nobility were able to have their portraits painted. *Millionaires* today buy classical art in auction. To have art is a *privilege* not a right. Ya don't need shit. Great video Sorrow!!! With great quality as ever♡
I agree, like to just see and appreciate art all you need is a museum ticket or even just going on the internet but owning art and having work someone put so much care into is a privilege, artists aren't free labor
Literally, paying an artist to do work is having a picture in your mind that you want to come to life, find the right person and then what's in your head can be beautifully made. Art is a skill that take a life time to hone, it's difficult and there is literal studying that needs to be done.
If there is one thing artists hate hearing the most, it's "But it will get you exposure and can lead into something more." Also my personal favorite I get, "We can't pay you for this one but it can lead to another project in which we can pay you."
@Cat Egorical I'm not OP, but I imagine the answer is the latter one. People who are willing to scum one artist out of pay for their hard work are perfectly willing to then turn around and scam other people of other professions out of pay for THEIR hard work, and in fact, I suspect many of such individuals try and scam artists who offer reasonable commission prices as a sort of "testing the waters" to see how much crap they can pull past the radar before they get caught. Granted, there probably are some businesses who withhold payment on a first piece in order to see how good the artist is at what's being asked of them, but I suspect they hand over payment at the end one way or another - to compensate the artist's time if it's a no-go, or because they've earned it if they're willing to continue working with that artist. That's the difference between those kinds of companies and these kinds of scumbags.
He pretty much tells him he’s gonna make 2 dollars an hour for 150 hour of labor along with a starting cost of 150 dollars. “I’ll give you 70” I don’t even
Stencil Zhi-Yi I'm guessing it's the same principle that bratty kids use to get their parents to buy a new toy. Bugging them until they they give in just to shut them up.
"'Are you with me?' - Winston from Overwatch" I just spit my water all over because of how ridiculous that sentence was. That line has been around since THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WAS INVENTED
I love how the guy went from working for a gaming company to working for a record label to owning a record label, and also has an Autobot as his Twitter pic.
ChickenNuggets I crochet commissions too. I’m 21 years old, and I’ve been learning crochet since I was in fourth grade. If someone tried to get me to do one of my stuffed animals with natural fibers and three feet tall or something ridiculous like this blanket the guy wanted, I’d be asking for a shit ton of money and you bet your ass that guy would be calling me insane in an instant. I have a huge amount of pride in the skills I’ve held onto for so long and learned so much with even to this day. I mean obviously no one else could ever have the same amount of respect for your craft than you and fellow crafters, but this is ridiculous.
I've seen people trying to commission my artist friends and they think the services are free?? Like my friend told this guy that drawing and colouring takes time and ink and stationary and high-grade paper isn't exactly cheap where I live (they're mostly imported) and the guy had the audacity to say 'I'll just pay for the materials then' like ??? you're also paying for their time? and patience????? what??? it's so sad because crafters constantly have to deal with "oh it's expensive I don't want it anymore" / "you charge too much" / "I can recommend you to my friends so can you give me half off"
I don't understand either, surely you can buy the materials you want used at the lower price and just ask the person to crochet it. Why get the crocheter to buy you materials but charge less?
Theres still people in this world that think that products should cost what the person who made them bought the materials for. How do people not understand that you don't make any money with that logic?
And they'll try to find ways to get it for free, I've had ppl say "your parents pay for the electricity so u don't need money to make the digital art" or "real art is too expensive, just make it abstract, I'll even but the material," like...? And if ppl don't think some abstract art takes artistic skill, then why aren't they doing it themselves?? Cause I still charge for my skill and the studying I've done to make appealing works 🤦🏾♀️💀
When I use to be on Deviantart, I did commissions for 10 points. Which is like, 10 cents in real life. I just like drawing other people's OCs and stuff, so I set my price pretty low. This kid asked for a commission (On their profile, it said they were 9). I agreed, but seeing their age, I had my guard up because it's not my first time for a kid to ask art from me. The kid wanted me to draw their FNAF OC in a chibi style. I was still in the FNAF fandom at that time, so I allowed commissions with furries in them. I told them the price (10 cents) , and they started angry at me for "scamming" them. They were only 9, so they weren't allowed on deviantart in the first place. They got blocked in the end.
I think 1$ for a drawing is like... probably good. It’s most likely something this person can bang out quick, and (from what I’ve seen) chibi drawings are in a high demand. Cute, simple and cheap. Something that person can afford to have a que in
Usually Chibis are just small doodles. I have a friend who does Chibis for a dollar. Granted most people say his comission prices are really cheap lol.
well when i only started doing commisions i didnt charge, i traded... but after realizing that i worked way harder for what i was getting i started charging 3$ per commision, and because i was only starting out i got only 2 people who commisioned me, and for me actual profit is better than nothing (of course i charge more now that i have experience and actual frequent customers)
The crochet one hurts me inside, genuinely. I mean, the others hurt, but god damn. Crochet is a pain in the ass, and to make something that big- Holy hell dude.
Make a really bad one and then gift it to someone telling them you put your whole heart into it, just so they feel forced to use it everytime you visit. It's the best. My friend still has an incredibly badly made clay box in her shelf because I told her I worked really hard on it.
I mean half the size would easily cover two people on a couch. 3x6 - 4x8 is typical couch blanket size. Even then a hand made 100% wool blanket would be over 400 from a professional (i.e. not a hobbyist) the fact they they do it as a hobby is why they can afford to charge so little because they are pretty much charging for supplies and a bit for time whereas a person who does it for a living would charge based on an hourly rate so....probably like over 1500-2000 for what he is asking.
Ares one dollar for some one who wants a commision i think they feel like they are paying 100$ the lowest commision price i know is 0.50¢ and thats for a fucking sketch
at first, i was like UR INSANE but after the artist explained i was like oh... u need to be getting paid more also i could pay that shit easily in a week. lets just say im new to the whole shit where everything past 100 is alot of money
elijah gradel yea handmade shit and art in general is usually more expensive than you expect but it's because of all the time it takes to make and especially in art customer doesn't just take first draft you give him and even than the first sketches given to customer are not really first sketches
Yep, that's their loser logic. They have jobs that they hate, and for some reason they think everyone should hate their job. So if you enjoy your job you shouldn't be paid for it.
The Keyboardslinger Do you draw/do commissions yourself? You sound very offended. XD Edit: I meant offended by the people trying to get people to do free commissions, not by my comment.
The blanket one: I changed my policy to pay half upfront since I had someone commission me then when it was done, she refused to pay me and then blocked me 😅
This finally happened to me. I’m a freelance editor and I already edit for a youtuber atm. I was open to add another customer to my list of employers and my friend came to me with. The name of someone looking to edit their league of legend videos. I hit em up saying I was a freelance editor he tells me “oh? Cool! I just need an editor for my league videos” I tell him alright if you’re willing to pay let’s get started” he literally says to me “what? Willing to pay? I thought you said you were freelance” I say yeah. Freelance. I work for myself. He says “no freelance means FREE” I explain to him that he has to pay or I won’t edit for him so he says ha! I was gonna pay you after you were done. When I become big and famous you’ll be dead in a ditch. “Fuck off you black inbred piece of shit” and then blocked me. I can relate to these video so much more!
I showed my mother the crochet blanket one because she does them and she said that $400 is super reasonable for all the work that he's asking for and materials $800.00 should've been the upfront price! 😂😂😂
Jeannine K that's what I was thinking. A custom made queen sized blanket. I was thinking, if this was a professional thing, it would be at least $13.78 an hour for that kind of work. 150 hours (around 5 hours a day over 4 weeks) becomes $2067 and then the cost of materials on top. I'm a British designer and I would say that £10/$13.78 an hour for commissioned custom work like that is more than reasonable when approaching someone doing professional level work that you specifically ask for. Like if you want something cheap, go to a gift shop or Walmart. The blankets there are still nice. Custom made is always more expensive. Mass production is easier to sell cheaply. Are people seriously missing this point...
400 for a custom made blanket is cheap i would buy in a heartbeat. Could spend over 100 just off cheap bed linen a blanket that wears easy and barely keeps you warm
years ago I came across this kid on DeviantArt who was re uploading (cropped) versions of people's art and not crediting them. naturally, a bunch of us messaged her asking her to take all of the work down, or at the very least credit who the art was from. her response was that she was emo, so we were making her depressed and driving her to suicide by being 'haters'. DeviantArt terminated her account.
I know a game maker who didn't even credit the composer of all the music that she's using in her games. Her games are nice imo, but I find it kinda distasteful that when a gamer reviewed her game and ask her who made the music and all, she replied with something like, "Oh, it was such a long time ago so I don't know where I got them and I'm too lazy to look for it haha".
Tbh, instagram is way worse. There's literally Pages of people crediting other pages that credit the first page again. Like a cycle of plagiarism. Also people crediting "whoever did the art" doesn't give exposure...at all. And instagram doesn't do shit about it.
ive seen a for exposure tweet where the artist used that example and the scum bag said its different because the landlord does good by letting people have places to live XD
please i'll pay you in exposure i have 14 subscribers edit : wait i have 29 so that's more than enough for a house (wait why are people subbing to me i'm not funny and i have no videos- oh uh i mean i'm hilarious and my content is better than pewdiepie's so please i need to feed my child)
4:00 - I like how she puts quotes around "artist" but not around starving. So she apparently objects to helping people that are starving just because they're not really artists.
Nobody Negotiates better than me, folks, believe me 👌. They come to me and say to me: you're such a good Deal Maker 👐. And I say yes, a Beautiful Negotiator. Very Beautiful 👌. My daughter is very Beautiful 👌. I can tell you that. They (very bad people) say that 800$ is too much 👐. Fake News. But they don't know that I sold the Pentagon to China for 70$, and they Loved It 👍. Nobody Loves China more than I do ☝️ .Word is around that it was the Greatest Deal in the history of mankind, they say that a lot. They're thinking about giving me the Nobel Peace Prize. They have the Cleanest Coal 👌. Much cleaner than our Coal ☝️ . They are killing us on Trade. They're killing us Bigly ✋. Obama would have made The Blanket for 400$ and wire tapp it while he is at it 👐. SAD!
I did love the ending though. Doubling the price was sweet to hear, although it was still under priced (just to be reasonable it should have been charged 5x the amount, that is very reasonable.)
$1 can get you a candy bar that can fit in the palm of your hand. Look, it's a chibi. It's art. The fact that they're willing to ask for only a dollar in return is extremely generous. What do you expect them to do it for, free? Oh, right, I forgot who this video was about. Of course they wanted it free. Honestly...
As an artist i can confirm that whenever i draw in public people ask me to draw them, i tell them they have to pay and they get their panties in a twist
AnimeDjGirl101 That shit is annoying whether i get paid or not. I hate it so much when i get asked. I refuse to draw in public anymore becuase of this.
Scarces Flannel I don’t even get their logic, how do these people think that i would waste hours of my time drawing a picture for them that they wont even fucking pay for...seriously.
"Wow!! You draw so well!!! Can you draw me???" -"Yeah, It's gonna cost you [enter a small amount of money here]" "What?!??!? Fuck off, I ain't paying you for a drawing. You don't even draw that well" -"Well fuck you too :)"
Bluedog 1414 No, of course not. It's just that when you draw professionally or you're trying to make a job out of this, you cannot really draw for free. A lot of hard work goes into each and ever drawing. But strangers expect that they can get it all for free
Fun fact: as soon as you put pen to paper, you own the copyright as long as it's original work and not done under contract. The only time you would need to register a copyright is if you plan to sue for damages.
Technically, you're right. The moment you make something, it's yous. the copyright doesn't grant ownership. However, it DOES create verifiable proof of ownership. If you don't go out and get it, then if someone steals it, good luck proving you made it. I highly recommend everyone copyright everything they do. A cool loophole for people trying to save money (it's 35$ per copyright) you can create a "collection" and copyright the entire collection as a whole. So I got a copyright on a few hundred photos, for the price of one. Also, a common misunderstanding is that many people intentionally don't copywrite their work because they want to share it with others for free. You can still do this with a copyright. It changes nothing other than giving you the ability to to prove that you made it in case you ever want to prove that.
"Good luck trying to prove that you made jt" Do you know how easy it is to do this? Art get stolen all the time and artists always get them back.This happens because of art styles and lables on the art itself. Just look it up, it's so easy.
I can easily prove it haha. I always keep my files and never show the different files without a huge watermark saying my name on them. That way, even if people took an unwatermarked image, I'd still have proof from posted date, style, and files. The magic of digital art. But I guess for traditional art it would be a bit harder to do. You could always right your name on with pen but if the artist owned the copy they could write their name on it and act like you vandalised your name on
$1 for a chibi seems extremely cheap (idk the rates but it seems it should cost significantly more) Also $400 is actually pretty respectable for a blanket like that. They take forever and cost a lot on supplies
Max Garza Some really good artists charge around $25 for a chibi. $1 is insanely cheap, and assuming it takes about an hour or so to make a quality chibi drawing, $1 is way below minimum wage.
Yeah. Like I'd charge a €5 at least. I offer €1 chibis but only because I'd say I'm still beginner level and the market is hard when youre not a popular artist
Saying an artist owes you art because you've improved is like saying because you have an old version of a phone and a new one came out you oee it to them
The base thing at around 5:58 is complicated - they are being overdramatic though. For those who don't frequent art/fandom spaces, a base is a piece made exclusively to be used by others. If you've ever seen those MS Paint anime girls with no hair on google images, that's probably a base. It's basically tracing, but the artist has given everyone permission to do so. You should never assume something is a base without checking, but they can also take the form of normal lineart. They're usually made to help people who aren't able to draw so well on their own yet and can be great learning tools. The intent is usually a mixture of that and a form of self-promotion by an artist to get their style more recognized. It's like you got a coloring book and the payment is loudly stating the artist's name every time you show it to someone. The key thing here is that when an artist makes a base, they are usually expecting to be directly credited for the work. It's self-promotion, so they're going to want their name on it even if you've made a bunch of changes. The issue comes in when people don't do this. "Base not mine" is a common thing to see and it infuriates artists everywhere. I get the idea that the real reason this person is ranting is that they have been either incorrectly crediting bases or have been using non-bases as bases without the artists knowledge.
Halefall Right?! That's an insanely cheap price once they explained the time and costs that go into a blanket. Literally charges less than $2 an hour and the guy was *still* pussyaching about it. Smh he missed out on a great deal.
I've wasted so much time and effort on doing things for friends and family from some design work to restoring old photos, even knitting something which took weeks and I barely even get a thank you. I finally decided not to do anything for free anymore. Don't sell yourself short
Same here. I decided enough was enough when I spent 3 solid days doing a tattoo design for my cousin. She asked me to send pictures every five minutes (not an exaggeration). Constantly texting me about it, kept changing her mind and beating around the bush. She had a clear idea in her head but gave me vague descriptions. She was rude and pushy and kept guilting me to work faster and kept trying to tell me how to do my job. I had about 3 hours sleep altogether because I couldn't say no and my family were pressuring me to be nice to her and do what she wanted. I barely even ate because I was so stressed to get it finished. The ONLY condition I gave her was to research her artist first and get it done properly. She got it done as soon as I finished it, her (not tattoo artist) friend did it for her with a cheap gun. Her friend had re-designed it and the whole thing looked god-awful. I wake up to see she credited me for it on ALL social media. Man, I untagged myself and blocked that bitch. Never done anything for free since and never will again. Ps. I asked her not to credit me in the beginning because I didn't want other people asking me for free work
6:00 "We take credit for what we change in the lineart" then do you credit the original artist? do you tell people what you added on? ....didn't think so.
"You demonstrate your skill first". That is literally usually the function of having a portfolio for people to look through before hiring you. You don't go to a 'typical' job and work for free for a full work week to prove you can do it before you're hired.
I worked for one day at starbucks and had to sign that I'm not gonna get paid for that day since I'm getting taught. Since I thought I'd get hired after that I went for it. They needed workers after all..but I didn't get the job. "I was over-qualified"
@@TheNexDude I had a really good friend that asked me to do a portrait of her sister for a Birthday. Of course I did it. It pains me that they printed the damn thing out, and still have it hanging up in their dining room. It's not even good, I drew it so long ago.
People like that is EXACTLY why people are going on school shootings and mass killing sprees. It has fucking nothing to do with guns. Instead of gun control, we need entitled cunt control to solve the problem of mass shooters.
As someone who crochets? &400 is absolutely a fair price for a blanket made solely out of wool, which is super expensive, in a complex stitch. "There are always sales going on"? Usually for acrylics. In fact, almost ALWAYS for acrylics. People don't seem to understand that when they're paying for art, they're paying for a service. And paying for services costs money. And that most artists actually UNDERPRICE THEMSELVES because of jackasses like these. I certainly know I have to.
Blitzy Don't worry, there are still people willing to pay. But I agree with the op, some underprice themselves for people like these, and more people feel entitled to lower prices because they'll think that that's how the market is. You need to stand your ground and educate your client on why it's priced that high. If they want your level of quality, they'll pay for it. If not, don't let them haggle it to an amateur's pricing when you aren't one.
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“Tell you what. I’ll do it for $800.”
Who is this person? They seem like they’d be fun to hang out with.
Captain Karen Obvious right?
They seem like the kinda friend that’d be constantly roasting me but I’d wanna hang out with them
Ye
Captain Karen Obvious i read in the comments that the blanket person is krafty.katt on instagram
Plot twist: His name was actually "Insane".
"Tell you what. I'll do it for $800", I bet that drove the dude right up the wall lmao
Bumbadadoo dododododododo
*BUM BADUMBUMBUMBANANANANAN*
To be continued
Its the idiot tax, they seller/artist gets to double the price whenever they feel like it.
"I'll do it for $800" is the best response possible.
Honestly the "why are people reporting me for stealing art uwu" rant was already great but ending this shit with "Winston from Overwatch" ended me lol
Lamiria | Oh hi Neo
Neo? What are you doing here?
Editing is fine if you *credit* the base owner, and use bases that aren't meant to be bought, which I doubt they did.
Icy Beverage yeah it confused me cuz how they explained it is like, they edited based that were literally put out as BASES which are made to be edited by others artists, so like, if it’s an actual base and is credited then it’s perfectly fine
I was scrolling as the aforementioned rant was being read, and I saw this post. It did not adequately brace me for what happened a second later when I, too, got hit with "Winston from Overwatch". It was like mentally slamming into a brick wall at 70mph.
That blanket maker is a great woman, doubling the price just to spite the guy.
FreedomHero4 I love that none of these people understand what "paying for a service" means. They think that all they're paying for is the raw materials involved. Yes, us artists have supernatural powers where we can just squish some stuff together and -- oh, a finished piece. 😂
yeah.. i would do the same if someone comfronts me in my fucking 1$ comissions
Not Iskawhiskers to be fair it sometimes does feel like I'm just squishing some stuff together to make art. Not to much avail, though.
I know I actually laughed out loud. That guy was really great at handing that haha.
Stephanie M why are you so triggered?
Some of these people write like they had a stroke mid-typing.
bazoongi That's insulting to Transformers fans and people with Down Syndrome to compare 'em to *that* guy.
No actually though, I only half meant that as a joke. But the thought that having Dowm Syndrome means you can't type correctly is just incorrect.
hey don't be a dijcfk yuo jerfk
They're having mini-strokes every time they don't get their way.
he shouldn't be on the internet
slimkt There are 726 likes and 6 comments and 726 is divisible by 6. That makes me happy
attention everyone! the badass blanket person is called krafty.katt on instagram! you're welcome!
thx
She gave kittens little crochet hats for a Cinco De Mayo Adoption event 4 days ago. If you have *EVER* seen this comment, go to their account.
Edit: corrected gender, and now they also made Grammy & Grumpy hats. All the more reason to go check it out.
eternalscreaming
I looked up their instagram and it’s adorable oml- they put this lil’ crocheted sombrero on this kitten
eternalscreaming | Time to go follow them. Thank you!
To everyone who sees this, follow them! They do some amazing work :(
400 is pretty good for a Catherine stitch, queen sized, natural wool blanket.
It feels like alot for me but im no expert
just googled what "catherine stitch" is, and seeing how it's queen sized and natural wool i think $400 seems pretty fair
edit: wait that actually seems very cheap
I will be living in a box because damn that’s crazy I’m happy with my target blanket
yeah fr i was about to say it’s not that bad haha
For the work that goes into a Catherine stitch and the yarn type 400 is generous
"Tell you what. I'll do it for $800" that was a more satisfying ending than I ever had with my ex.
*and then everybody clapped*
StopReadingThisUsername *And then everyone got CLAPPED*
Helper Onie67 And then everyone became their insanes.
And then the blind dude got up and high fived me
And than i used than instad of then.
*goes to restaurant on opening day and orders meal*
5 years later
“Can I get my meal from 5 years ago upgraded for free because it’s not fair that other people get better quality food?”
The TVs you sell are a much better quality now, so I want my TV upgraded for free.
Theory Biscuit Vevo It’s more like buying a car and coming back to trade it in for the newest model.... wait.... bad example people actually do that
@@jacobbabson6786 right but they *pay* for the new car. they don't just get given a brand new car for free because they bought one in the past.
@ *employee:* But sir/m'am it's scratched.
*client:* Whoa?! How dare you refuse my generous offer?!
*employee:* You bassicaly just try to change a scratched phone for a new one. How is that even a offer?
*client:* You will regret declining my offer! I own for the biggest phone company in Brasil! I can ruin your bussines whit just one phone call!
*employee:* Aha, can you, please call from outside? You are making a scene now.
*client:* How dare you! I will ruin you, i will-
*employee:* Security! Please escort the sir/m'am outside!
That makes 💯 sense. Of course!
Geez that poor crochet person. I work in customer service and I will never understand why the hell people think threats, yelling, or cussing out a stranger will strong arm them into doing anything for you.
Heather Thomas shitty parents
I generally try to handle those situations with grace. I have no way of knowing what kind of day that person has had. Maybe someone in their family is really sick or dying? Maybe they just lost their job?
However, on that same principle, I also expect to be treated well because that person has no clue what kind of day I’ve had.
Probably because of the term "The customer is always right" Companies would rather give in then get bad reviews. But yeah, it doesn't really work in other situations. I hated having to serve rude customers
Especially when it's at some minimum wage employee they think personally sets the prices
+swayingmetal001 I was a cashier at Target a few years back and this woman accused me of charging her more than the price of the item. I calmly explained to her that it was sales tax but she flipped out and asked for a manager. I'm not sure what my manager ended up telling her but it was the weirdest thing I've ever been accused of
IF YOU DONT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY
YOU DONT HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE ARTISTS EXPOSURE
Can’t get a brand deal? Your exposure isn’t big enough for free art.
As an artist myself, straight fucking facts. If you can’t pay 3 fucking dollars, you need a job-
1 dollar? 1 DOLLAR??!! How does that artist expect to get any customers with prices like that! Almost NOBODY can afford that!
Oh no
i am actually scared some people think 1 FUCKING DOLLAR is expensive
just do the dishes or someting
dont buy chips this weekend
ask mom
both
RIGHT! I can barely afford a cent. Damm starving “artists” charging $1. You have bills to pay. Me too, bitch. Me too. That is an insane amount of money. I can go to Walmart and get art for free! Art hoes need money to draw. They don’t know their wirth. They are insane. They charge WAY TO MUCH. I will destroy their business.
Y'know ive been thinking they say 1 dollar is too much
It could be
A.They don't have PayPal or some other method of paying
Or
B.Theyere just some cheap ass c*nts
You gave the guy that spells "draw" as "drawl" a Southern drawl. Well played.
as a southern person who also draws, people always tell me “ur such a good drawler!” and “that’s a good drawling!” “drawl me!”
I know! I loved that 🤣
and also nd also ltht ai
$130 for a 12x12 painting of three kids and two animals? That's cheap!
nonono, you dont understand, she offered to BUY the canvas
"The moment you're an adult is the moment you realize $100 is not a lot of money"
- my English teacher
@@dearratboy6326 AND materials!!
@@sorayaalcyone2726 fuck i forgot about the materials!!!!
Dimentio, put the gun down
"I'll pay you $70 dollars. That's more than generous."
That's literally the definition of a scam for the person making the product.
The audacity and narcissm of that person to even be like ,,aNd tHaT'S eVeN gEnEroUS", like who does he think he is?
$70 for a blanket made with $160 worth of wool yarn lol
Yeah just walk into Joann's on a Tuesday, buy twenty skeins of wool at like 70% off, and don't get paid for the three-to-four weeks of crocheting you're gonna do. Easy.
“I’ll do it for 800”
Still a really good deal, since if the job was at minimum wage, it would end up costing over $1,600.
I would love to envision the guy going "$800?? That's a better price, do you have a paypal?" Lmao
400 is an insanely cheap price for a well made blanket.
yeah as the Worth It boys put it "imagine if you could have a 20,000 dollar new car for 2,000 dollars." I'd be down
@@arizonagreenbee Especially one with a catherine's wheel stitch, made out of wool, at the size of 6 feet by 7 feet
400$ for a complexly weaved queen sized wool blanket? That's a really good rate...
It's not so much they don't want to pay for a service, it's that they refuse to accept getting told No.
"Your insane."
_-Greedy person who wants a full king size blanket made of wool for 70 bucks._
Unknown User “twunt” perfect
Nice car 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
What's wrong with my insane? Hmm?
That’s not my name
You're*
the blanket person should really have aborted the situation to avoid the mass suicide of brain cells. both to him/her and us
But if he/her aborted the situation we won't have this gold
Luigio Sometimes you just need to drag the situation out: to prove how much of a shitbag the 'potential client' is, and to beautifully thrash them by the end.
Not really, because we really wanted to see that bright radiant light of a total asshole shining through.
But what a loss of entertainment it would've been if he/she stopped.
Blanket person endured. They took one for the team. The pettiness needed to be shared. A hero.
2:47 "Hey I bought this brand new car back in 2010 but I noticed the 2018 version is a lot better so can I just have that one for free because its not fair people are paying the same price I paid back in 2010"
Yeah cause that's how things work
Very Genius thought process
it could be a nice policy to have a discount for redraws, maybe the people who like your work would be more likely to buy another artwork from you, just to have their treasured commission be up to date. people would probably be more likely to consider commissioning a re-draw if you advertise a discount
Entraya Crosshill ??? But what you have to keep in mind is that usually with an improvement of style comes a much longer time spent on the commission as well as raise of price. Doing a redraw won't take a shorter amount of time, most likely it'll take significantly longer than the old piece it's based on, so why should someone charge less for a piece that is going to take even longer???
why should they discount? its up to the artist dude im not saying they -should-. its not uncommon to have like 20% off sales, or free shipping campaigns, why should they do that? im not an artist so i dont know what the exact reasons are, but i reckon they do these things to make people think 'oh lets buy a poster now, its free shipping', so having a re-draw campaign could be an idea to entice old fans to buy a commission.
its just business -ideas- dude dont freak out
I wasn't freaking out, merely stating my opinion, because as an artist myself I wouldn't offer discounts to anyone excepting close friends purely because of the amount of work that goes into it. Sure it's a good business campaign, but unless you had commissions selling consistently most artists couldn't afford to do that kind of thing if it is something they're making a living off. (Retail stores or the like can afford sales like that because they're not the ones sitting there painstaking over a single piece of work for hours, it's much different when it comes to art.)
I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing or anything, I honestly just wanted to hear your reasoning because doing that kind of thing for cheaper/free (in the case of the video) isn't something that a lot of artists would consider. Thanks for explaining why you thought that :)
Bruh a $1 chibi is the cheapest price I've ever seen for a chibi
Beebo's a Killjoy That's the same amount I would possible charge, if I was actually any good at it.
That guy was a Jew.
Same
Beebo's a Killjoy nice pfp and username fellow youngblood
ikr
"your insane" what exactly is wrong with my insane, huh?
"We don't have Walmart" - a person blessed with location, but cursed by ignorance.
Digital Unity eh, the walmart analogy was the stupidest thing in the video. Walmart is a megacompany, the biggest supermarket corporation ever, having a candybar stolen, a very low value item, means nothing to them. In comparison to the artist, it's making it out like he could make a trillion of those o's, and if one was stolen, he wouldn't notice, making it a low effort proposition. It's making it seem like his art process is much easier than it is.
Hey, lady (not the comment writer, the one in the video):
1. There are Walmarts here in America. Trust me, I know.
2. NO ONE CARES IF YOU LIVE IN AMERICA. PAY FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO PURCHASE.
Dude, $400 for that custom blanket is an amazing price.
If I had the money to, I'd love to commission one of those, man.
Is it really? That's a shit ton to pay for just a blanket.
@@Malus1531 Please, don't tell me.....DON'T TELL ME! You agreed with the guy? The crocheter made some good points but I can see a non-artist or non-creative person doing this. You see, no matter the material, if it's a blanket, a digital drawing that only exists as code, or a goddamn video game or movie, beyond just the costs of making something, there is the cost of your time. No matter what, if you do not WANT to make it, then your time is being wasted making it. Money, or other compensation can help with that, and can make it so your time was worth it. Artists have shit to do. We have LIVES to LIVE. So from your perspective, it is a shit ton for a blanket. But it IS a hand made, full wool (FROM A GODDAMN ANIMAL) and it will take TIME and EFFORT to make. It is just like any job. If YOU are putting in effort, you should be payed for your effort. You can't just do it for the price of the materials, or else you aren't getting ANYTHING out of it. I have tried crotchet, and it DOES take time. And effort.
In the end, this was a long-winded speech to one comment letting out the frustration I have with people who think this way. It is not JUST targeted at you, but I do think that you may not think of it as paying for "just a blanket." but paying for the artists time.
@@ReddCrystal My bad I commented after the first segment, before seeing the second half where the artist explained the price breakdown and how long it took. I get what you're saying. It still is a crazy amount to pay for a blanket imo, but I'm not saying he/she is overcharging.
@Samuel Pomfret I'm not putting it against anything other than the percentage of my budget I dedicate to blankets.
Look... yes, I killed two people... but there are plenty of people out there who have killed five--so I'm practically innocent because of that.
Katrina Payne That makes sense, so if I only kill one, then I'm absolutely innocent
Pretty much how all art theifs think
Katrina Payne Judge: Damn she's good
Katrina Payne ᴮᵒᶦ ʸᵒᵘ ⁿᴱᴱᵈ ˢᵒᵐᵐ ʰᵉᵖ
Katrina Payne 25 to life? That's way too long. Tell you what, I'll spend the weekend in jail and you let me go, yes?
Yeah a super “generous” offer of $70 let’s see, so if the yarn is $160 at full price then you would need a over 50% sale just for the $70 to cover the cost of the wool and then 120-150 hours of stitching without any pay. So that’s what generosity is huh? I see...
Ok so now let’s do some math, assuming we give this person $10 an hour (about minimum wage) then it’ll come out to $1360-$1660.
Hmmm... ok well since they’re not professional the what about $5 an hour? Let’s see... 120 X 5 + 160 = $760 150 X 5 + 160 = $910
So it should be about $760-$1660 which means that $400 is kind of a steal of a deal!
David Liu bruh I wish $10 was minimum wage lol, it’s still $7.25 where I live
@@rei8694 Kentucky?
@Eraclese yeah, i live in connecticut and the minimum wage here is 11, and they're planning on raising it by 1 dollar every year until it gets to 15. it is really expensive to live here, though, so i think it kind of depends on those factors too
@@alchemistrie yeah different states have different minimum wages. Heck what wage is necessary for each city varies as well. However the federal hasn't changed in about 60 or so years. For one city needing a higher minimum, there is a more small town area with lower living cost.
I read that "I see..." in Sorrow's voice, doing the "you broke her heaet because... I see..." bit from Nice Girls.
When someone says "others will do it cheaper", well get it from them!
Pixel Breaker Then they just ignore you and continue bitching about your rates.
The blanket guy also compared a blanket from walmart, in acrylic, made by a machine in about 15 minutes to a heavy queen sized, complex, handcrafted wool blanket lmao. Yeah the walmart one is cheaper, i wonder why *hmmmmm*
Yeah they'll say that but in the end they'll still come back to you
I ... am... Brazilian. Lol
I am hu3
Me too
So you must know of the famous artist that made a portrait of that one brazilian guy, right?
Welcome to Brasil, everyone! We've had a drunken gnome, a lesbian zombie as president, and now Nosferatu, what else would you expect?
Twiistz ordem e progresso my ass
"I charge my friends and family more." Lmao. Honestly though, that's a good strategy.
Shadow Of Light Well, it was probably a lie and they were trying to shut the person down.
Simply Beige I know, but if it was real it is a bad thing to do
Shadow Of Light For parents, yes, but I hardly doubt they’d want more but a traditional sketch. Friends shouldn’t expect or demand free art but most artists simply gift them art when feeling generous.
Simply Beige Artists are free to do what they want, as long as they’re not charging someone because of their position. Everyone is equal.
Shadow Of Light no, it isn’t? Are you one of these art thief fucks?
400$ is a steal and I cant believe the price is that low. She must really love what she does.
They probably won't charge that low again because of that one douchebag so that's a little sad to think about.
Even 800 is cheap
"Hey plumber, if you just fix my sink real quick, I'll tell people about you at the office."
"Hey carpenter, could you build me a mahogany shelf real quick? I don't have any money, but I'll tell my friends who built it when they come over."
"Hey accountant, can you give me a hand with my taxes? I'm a little confused on how to do them, so I'd like to walk through them with you. Please? I'll even pass around a few of your business cards...."
That's....that's literally what these people are saying....
"Hey, cook, can you made this dish for me quickly? i have no money"
"Hey, you. Get this work done and i will tell my friends about you"
"Hey, we need material to build the rocket we need"
"Oh ok, here. it will cost you 2 Million dollars"
" *Y O U ' R E I n SA n e!* "
"Why?"
"YOU COULD BUY THIS THING IN [PLACE NAME] FOR [CHEAP PRICE]!"
"Then why would you not go there?"
"BECUZ AI NED EAT VRY FST, NOW!"
" It will cost you 2 million dollars"
"OMG, **** YOU!, MY DAD IS THE PRESIDENT AND I WILL SUE THIS PLACE! **** YOU!, WHEN I A BILLIONAIRE I WILL FRIKIN SUE YOU! YOU **** ****** ***** ******** **** !!!"
- you have been blocked -
"Hey Government, Can you get rid of my Million dollar fine and my 42163632 second jail sentence, Ill tell myself that you should be elected" -One of the 7.5 billion people on earth
"No" -Government
"IM FRIENDS WITH THE GOVERNMENT, ILL SUE YA" -One of the 7.5 billion people on earth
lol XD
As an accountant, I get basically that request multiple times a year, especially people that call me over the phone to help them through their tax return step by step. Along with the oh-so-loved "my [random family member] does them for free" which isn't uncommonly followed by "but they messed it up last time, so I thought I'd try someone else out."
a nice example for people who begs free commisions to me thank you so much
The guy/gal who was responding to the blanket moron handled that incredibly well haha
Lucas T dude, if I were the person, I would say “just fuck off”
Your insane
Patience of an angel
Let's face it: artists can be too nice sometimes
"chibi for $1"
me: omg what so cheap
this lady: 1 cent or no
Ikr that like club fundraiser prices. Probably cheaper actually. If I was good at it probably would charge at least $5
$1 for a chibi drawing isn’t that bad of a price, actually. Probably not a lot of money to make, though, if you plan to make revenue from being an artist.
One dollar is crazy cheap, like I’d pay them ten honestly
Yeah, like, holy shit, I'm broke and I'd still pay that price.
Did anyone else find the '$70 for a wool blanket' guy so infuriating that they wanted to smash their head against the nearest hard surface? Asking for a friend.
hello... um police, there's this comment I'm concerned about.
I have a desk. So no.
yes.
I like the way your friend thinks.
Yes.
I wanted to strangle some random guy who wanted a blanket through the screen.
bUt hE HaS a gIrLfRiEnD wHo iS iLL!1!
the crochet blanket exchange was slowly killing me inside
how can someone be
THAT DENSE
Omfg art is a *LUXURY* item!!!
In the beginning, only *kings* and *queens* and other nobility were able to have their portraits painted. *Millionaires* today buy classical art in auction.
To have art is a *privilege* not a right. Ya don't need shit.
Great video Sorrow!!! With great quality as ever♡
Can have 1 drawing of me in very detail?, is for exposure, if dot afree your littttorolly heitlor
You sound like you've had your fair share of terrible comments.
I agree, like to just see and appreciate art all you need is a museum ticket or even just going on the internet but owning art and having work someone put so much care into is a privilege, artists aren't free labor
❤️❤️❤️
Literally, paying an artist to do work is having a picture in your mind that you want to come to life, find the right person and then what's in your head can be beautifully made. Art is a skill that take a life time to hone, it's difficult and there is literal studying that needs to be done.
If there is one thing artists hate hearing the most, it's "But it will get you exposure and can lead into something more." Also my personal favorite I get, "We can't pay you for this one but it can lead to another project in which we can pay you."
@Cat Egorical I'm not OP, but I imagine the answer is the latter one. People who are willing to scum one artist out of pay for their hard work are perfectly willing to then turn around and scam other people of other professions out of pay for THEIR hard work, and in fact, I suspect many of such individuals try and scam artists who offer reasonable commission prices as a sort of "testing the waters" to see how much crap they can pull past the radar before they get caught.
Granted, there probably are some businesses who withhold payment on a first piece in order to see how good the artist is at what's being asked of them, but I suspect they hand over payment at the end one way or another - to compensate the artist's time if it's a no-go, or because they've earned it if they're willing to continue working with that artist. That's the difference between those kinds of companies and these kinds of scumbags.
Cool. I am turning down the free gig but let me know when that paying gig is ready.
The last one is the "ill pay you back when i get some money" mentality.
He pretty much tells him he’s gonna make 2 dollars an hour for 150 hour of labor along with a starting cost of 150 dollars.
“I’ll give you 70”
I don’t even
yung malaria it was actually 200 but still
Reece Schrock But still. Fucking 70$ for something that requires a material that is 140$ for full price ALONE.
A Talentless Idiot 70 chibis
"Tell you what, I'll charge you $800."
YOU'RE INSANE
I don't understand the common business practice of angering the business to get a lower price.
Stencil Zhi-Yi I'm guessing it's the same principle that bratty kids use to get their parents to buy a new toy. Bugging them until they they give in just to shut them up.
More like the business blocks them from their contacts.
Void of Space and Time imagine a block button for your children
Zyǐ Bésixdouze Guilt tripping
It's because they can't T-Pose to assert dominance in a dm.
10:48 he's right, $400 is not a fair price. The artist should have charged a lot more
Well, they did bump up to $800, so I feel like we're getting closer.
poor alpacas
"'Are you with me?' - Winston from Overwatch"
I just spit my water all over because of how ridiculous that sentence was. That line has been around since THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WAS INVENTED
Wiste þé geornor?
I love how the guy went from working for a gaming company to working for a record label to owning a record label, and also has an Autobot as his Twitter pic.
Next thing before you now it, they'll be apparently the CEO's of the World Greatest Art Institute of 'Opertunity'
Moving Parts Gaming UM. I think you mean the world’s largest mobile game company/record label.
He also has one of the most annyoing Autobots ever...so it matches.
Moving Parts Gaming Hahahaha yeah
Moving Parts Gaming *wheeze*
I think the blanket is quite cheap considering that its' handmade.
amd complex and three colours AND massive. how much more did that fucko want.
No kidding. Handmade rugs back in the day were hugely expensive luxury goods. Y’know, sold almost exclusively on the Silk Road and all that
@@lordsloth2532 Ok
Sweet .Nighter I know! I kinda want one, but most likely after that encounter she prolly won’t take commissions anymore.
Yeah lol I’d probably pay 400 for a giant handmade blanket like that
People like this physically pains me. Like dude you're paying for someone's skill and craft that they practiced for years.
ChickenNuggets I crochet commissions too. I’m 21 years old, and I’ve been learning crochet since I was in fourth grade. If someone tried to get me to do one of my stuffed animals with natural fibers and three feet tall or something ridiculous like this blanket the guy wanted, I’d be asking for a shit ton of money and you bet your ass that guy would be calling me insane in an instant. I have a huge amount of pride in the skills I’ve held onto for so long and learned so much with even to this day. I mean obviously no one else could ever have the same amount of respect for your craft than you and fellow crafters, but this is ridiculous.
I've seen people trying to commission my artist friends and they think the services are free?? Like my friend told this guy that drawing and colouring takes time and ink and stationary and high-grade paper isn't exactly cheap where I live (they're mostly imported) and the guy had the audacity to say 'I'll just pay for the materials then' like ??? you're also paying for their time? and patience????? what??? it's so sad because crafters constantly have to deal with "oh it's expensive I don't want it anymore" / "you charge too much" / "I can recommend you to my friends so can you give me half off"
Volunteer work
I don't understand either, surely you can buy the materials you want used at the lower price and just ask the person to crochet it. Why get the crocheter to buy you materials but charge less?
next time it happens, ask them why they hate capitalism so much :}
Fun drinking game:
Take a shot every time someone says “thats too expensive”
Your username made me get banned from my Christian Minecraft server
That'll poison people with how bitchy these people are about not paying
Ye0 yuu8
Theres still people in this world that think that products should cost what the person who made them bought the materials for.
How do people not understand that you don't make any money with that logic?
And they'll try to find ways to get it for free, I've had ppl say "your parents pay for the electricity so u don't need money to make the digital art" or "real art is too expensive, just make it abstract, I'll even but the material," like...? And if ppl don't think some abstract art takes artistic skill, then why aren't they doing it themselves?? Cause I still charge for my skill and the studying I've done to make appealing works 🤦🏾♀️💀
Raw Materials + Direct Labor + Overhead= Mftg Cost. Sigh, blanket guy...🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
“Why do you charge $200 for something you can make in 3 hours?”
“Because I spent 8 years learning how to make it in 3 hours”
1 Chibi for a dollar is like really cheap !!??? Lmao I've seen some go for 80$ before wowowow
Bob Treduis yeah its very cheep and i cant believe that person would say that $1 is expensive
When I use to be on Deviantart, I did commissions for 10 points. Which is like, 10 cents in real life. I just like drawing other people's OCs and stuff, so I set my price pretty low. This kid asked for a commission (On their profile, it said they were 9). I agreed, but seeing their age, I had my guard up because it's not my first time for a kid to ask art from me. The kid wanted me to draw their FNAF OC in a chibi style. I was still in the FNAF fandom at that time, so I allowed commissions with furries in them. I told them the price (10 cents) , and they started angry at me for "scamming" them. They were only 9, so they weren't allowed on deviantart in the first place. They got blocked in the end.
RainingCupcakes i like fnaf
Bob Treduis | I really don't know much about prices for this kind of artwork, but I felt surprised, too.
Bob Treduis What the fuck is a "chibi"?!
$1 for a drawing...honey that's seriously underselling
@JoeRingo118 like you're gonna get drawing requests every 6 minutes.
I think 1$ for a drawing is like... probably good. It’s most likely something this person can bang out quick, and (from what I’ve seen) chibi drawings are in a high demand. Cute, simple and cheap. Something that person can afford to have a que in
A chibi should be 5 bucks MINIMUM. 1 dollar is insanity.
Usually Chibis are just small doodles. I have a friend who does Chibis for a dollar. Granted most people say his comission prices are really cheap lol.
well when i only started doing commisions i didnt charge, i traded... but after realizing that i worked way harder for what i was getting i started charging 3$ per commision, and because i was only starting out i got only 2 people who commisioned me, and for me actual profit is better than nothing (of course i charge more now that i have experience and actual frequent customers)
"Why wouldn't she quote tracer?"
Comedy. Gold.
The crochet one hurts me inside, genuinely. I mean, the others hurt, but god damn. Crochet is a pain in the ass, and to make something that big- Holy hell dude.
That's a big mood. Luckily, I haven't cursed any of my friends with my sad projects yet. Let's so how long that lasts...
Make a really bad one and then gift it to someone telling them you put your whole heart into it, just so they feel forced to use it everytime you visit.
It's the best. My friend still has an incredibly badly made clay box in her shelf because I told her I worked really hard on it.
@@skeletonwar4445 genius my god
*YOUR INSANE*
I mean half the size would easily cover two people on a couch. 3x6 - 4x8 is typical couch blanket size. Even then a hand made 100% wool blanket would be over 400 from a professional (i.e. not a hobbyist) the fact they they do it as a hobby is why they can afford to charge so little because they are pretty much charging for supplies and a bit for time whereas a person who does it for a living would charge based on an hourly rate so....probably like over 1500-2000 for what he is asking.
Chibi art for a dollar is practically a steal.
HOW DAFUQ IS THAT A HIGH PRICE?
Ares one dollar for some one who wants a commision i think they feel like they are paying 100$
the lowest commision price i know is 0.50¢ and thats for a fucking sketch
Ares What a Jew.
Anyone have a link to the artist? I kinda want one now
IKR, I want twenty!
Same, I would pay a dollar for a nice original chibi!
Everything about that blanket conversation was pure gold
OF COURSE I'M GONNA BUY THE YARN ON SALE!
"Your insane"
anyone know a link or tag for that 1 chibi = 1$? that's hella cheap, i wanna get some of those!
Ikr
Yes
@@plague4661 is to much
@@camerabox1 😂
Seven Chords me too!!!
Idk, $400 for a handmade blanket seems cheaper then I'd of thought it would be
covfefe Your insane
irudocyclitis
at first, i was like UR INSANE but after the artist explained i was like oh... u need to be getting paid more also i could pay that shit easily in a week. lets just say im new to the whole shit where everything past 100 is alot of money
elijah gradel yea handmade shit and art in general is usually more expensive than you expect but it's because of all the time it takes to make and especially in art customer doesn't just take first draft you give him and even than the first sketches given to customer are not really first sketches
covfefe
*your *
Even though I don't need a blanket at all, I wanna buy a commission from that person just cause they seem so awesome and deserve the money
'Jck123 ' same here
'Jck123 ' I'd buy one just so they were compensated for their wasted time...
Your insane
'Jck123 ' if I’m honest $400 seems cheap for that amazing blanket for pure wool
Logic be like: "This is your hobby, why don't you do it for free then?"
Yea cuz you can't turn your hobby into a profession...
Yep, that's their loser logic. They have jobs that they hate, and for some reason they think everyone should hate their job. So if you enjoy your job you shouldn't be paid for it.
The Keyboardslinger Do you draw/do commissions yourself? You sound very offended. XD
Edit: I meant offended by the people trying to get people to do free commissions, not by my comment.
Simon Steiner i think you misread it
Im pretty sure you need money to have a life?
psst... he’s agreeing with you.
The blanket one: I changed my policy to pay half upfront since I had someone commission me then when it was done, she refused to pay me and then blocked me 😅
Oh, you poor soul! I'm so sorry that happened to you. But, hey. You live you learn, right? I hope you have better luck (and people) in the future.
Rip
Kitty Sparkle put water mark on the entirety of the painting if it was a digital painting. When he/she pays, you remove it.
I know this is a year late but I’m pretty sure you can sue them for that
Yup always money up front. and never spend your own money on supplies “to be reimbursed later.”
This finally happened to me. I’m a freelance editor and I already edit for a youtuber atm. I was open to add another customer to my list of employers and my friend came to me with. The name of someone looking to edit their league of legend videos. I hit em up saying I was a freelance editor he tells me “oh? Cool! I just need an editor for my league videos” I tell him alright if you’re willing to pay let’s get started” he literally says to me “what? Willing to pay? I thought you said you were freelance” I say yeah. Freelance. I work for myself. He says “no freelance means FREE” I explain to him that he has to pay or I won’t edit for him so he says ha! I was gonna pay you after you were done. When I become big and famous you’ll be dead in a ditch. “Fuck off you black inbred piece of shit” and then blocked me. I can relate to these video so much more!
SuperGaming Dude wow, fuck that guy! What’s his channel of you don’t mind me asking?
Hey man could you draw for me?
I own one of the largest mobile game companies and have ties to get you into the industry.
hello excuse me i like ur vids edit 4 me i will pay in 3 0 0 E X P O S U R E B U C K S
WalkingPromissoryNote 1963 have you watched the video? Have you?
That sounds about right if it was someone who played LoL
I showed my mother the crochet blanket one because she does them and she said that $400 is super reasonable for all the work that he's asking for and materials $800.00 should've been the upfront price! 😂😂😂
Your insane!
Mama Rora no u
YOUR INSANE ! ! ! 1!!!!
Jeannine K that's what I was thinking.
A custom made queen sized blanket.
I was thinking, if this was a professional thing, it would be at least $13.78 an hour for that kind of work. 150 hours (around 5 hours a day over 4 weeks) becomes $2067 and then the cost of materials on top.
I'm a British designer and I would say that £10/$13.78 an hour for commissioned custom work like that is more than reasonable when approaching someone doing professional level work that you specifically ask for.
Like if you want something cheap, go to a gift shop or Walmart. The blankets there are still nice. Custom made is always more expensive. Mass production is easier to sell cheaply. Are people seriously missing this point...
Neon Confection people just don't understand economics at all. Supply and demand and economy of scale seem to be out of the grasp of such fools.
HOLY CRAP that blanket drama was epic. Thankfully that blanket maker posted that INSANE back and forth....holy crap.
the song is rock star by nickleback, and oh god was i assaulted by the memories
thanks!
Lmao love the blanket one
‘Tell you what, I’ll do it for £800”
Your insane
Alright, final offer, $1600.
Your insane
Your insane
I’ll do you for £800
Love that blanket chick, so savage.
Do we know for sure it's a chick?
Did you just assume her gender, dude?
@@Asidders yeah i believe op is a girl
I'm actually kinda interested in the $400 blanket person.
400 for a custom made blanket is cheap i would buy in a heartbeat. Could spend over 100 just off cheap bed linen a blanket that wears easy and barely keeps you warm
Joshua Gibson yup a handmade blanket like that would be in your family for generations. Thats a good deal IMO
@@ksfishchannel can confirm, we have a blanket made by my great-grandmother. Still in excellent shape, and still soft and warm.
Ikr. Blankets last forever. Did you find their name?
400usd for a queen size full wool custom blanket is pretty reasonable i think
Oh god, the verbatim readings are killing me, accents are perfect. Great stuff.
years ago I came across this kid on DeviantArt who was re uploading (cropped) versions of people's art and not crediting them. naturally, a bunch of us messaged her asking her to take all of the work down, or at the very least credit who the art was from. her response was that she was emo, so we were making her depressed and driving her to suicide by being 'haters'.
DeviantArt terminated her account.
Deviantart? Not being dog shit and terminating someone doing something wrong? _I haven't seen that in ages...._
lmao
I know a game maker who didn't even credit the composer of all the music that she's using in her games. Her games are nice imo, but I find it kinda distasteful that when a gamer reviewed her game and ask her who made the music and all, she replied with something like, "Oh, it was such a long time ago so I don't know where I got them and I'm too lazy to look for it haha".
Oof
Tbh, instagram is way worse. There's literally Pages of people crediting other pages that credit the first page again. Like a cycle of plagiarism.
Also people crediting "whoever did the art" doesn't give exposure...at all. And instagram doesn't do shit about it.
"Tell ya what...i'll do it for $800." r/destroyed by words
It’s r/murderedbywords
r/murderedbywords
r/murderedbywords
Just some fucking perfect words right there perfect r/murderedbywords
It's r/obliterateeviavocab
"Tell you what. I'll do it for $800."
That's awesome XD
Landlord: this house is $500,000
One of these people: can I have it for free?
ive seen a for exposure tweet where the artist used that example and the scum bag said its different because the landlord does good by letting people have places to live XD
Gizmo 💀💀 as if having art make ppl feel good too
More like ppl from choosinhbeggars
please i'll pay you in exposure i have 14 subscribers
edit : wait i have 29 so that's more than enough for a house (wait why are people subbing to me i'm not funny and i have no videos- oh uh i mean i'm hilarious and my content is better than pewdiepie's so please i need to feed my child)
"I'll take it for $70"
4:00 - I like how she puts quotes around "artist" but not around starving. So she apparently objects to helping people that are starving just because they're not really artists.
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter!! Well at least she admitted it was petty 😂
@@sharees2159 Basically there's a fuckton of artists, but not every artist is a PROFESSIONAL artist.
Love your profile pictures
"Tell you what, I'll do it for $800" *Trump the Art of the Deal*
thats how the world war 3 started kids . lol . i lost my shit there
Nobody Negotiates better than me, folks, believe me 👌. They come to me and say to me: you're such a good Deal Maker 👐. And I say yes, a Beautiful Negotiator. Very Beautiful 👌. My daughter is very Beautiful 👌. I can tell you that. They (very bad people) say that 800$ is too much 👐. Fake News. But they don't know that I sold the Pentagon to China for 70$, and they Loved It 👍. Nobody Loves China more than I do ☝️ .Word is around that it was the Greatest Deal in the history of mankind, they say that a lot. They're thinking about giving me the Nobel Peace Prize. They have the Cleanest Coal 👌. Much cleaner than our Coal ☝️ . They are killing us on Trade. They're killing us Bigly ✋. Obama would have made The Blanket for 400$ and wire tapp it while he is at it 👐. SAD!
$400 for a handmade blanket with those materials and that size.. Is reasonable
It's not reasonable, it is overly generous. $2 an hour are slave wages.
I did love the ending though. Doubling the price was sweet to hear, although it was still under priced (just to be reasonable it should have been charged 5x the amount, that is very reasonable.)
Coahomma ! I think its insane...ly cheap
Yeah, which is a perfect reason not to buy homemade blankets
Coahomma ! It's generous, not reasonable.
13:00 i would’ve charged $1600 for wasting my time
If you ever say that $1 is too much for anything that you might possibly want to buy, you need help.
Can I get 50% off on that?
Unless it's a price for one nail.
$1 can get you a candy bar that can fit in the palm of your hand.
Look, it's a chibi. It's art. The fact that they're willing to ask for only a dollar in return is extremely generous. What do you expect them to do it for, free?
Oh, right, I forgot who this video was about. Of course they wanted it free. Honestly...
$1 is too much for a gumball, it's too much for a single rubber band, it's too much for a Pencil, there's things paying $1 for is paying too much
Joseph Schubert there's no way I wouldn't pay $1 a chibi!! Wtf!!
The frickin' crocheting guy had me in tears!
As an artist i can confirm that whenever i draw in public people ask me to draw them, i tell them they have to pay and they get their panties in a twist
AnimeDjGirl101 That shit is annoying whether i get paid or not. I hate it so much when i get asked. I refuse to draw in public anymore becuase of this.
Scarces Flannel I don’t even get their logic, how do these people think that i would waste hours of my time drawing a picture for them that they wont even fucking pay for...seriously.
"Wow!! You draw so well!!! Can you draw me???"
-"Yeah, It's gonna cost you [enter a small amount of money here]"
"What?!??!? Fuck off, I ain't paying you for a drawing. You don't even draw that well"
-"Well fuck you too :)"
Bluedog 1414 No, of course not.
It's just that when you draw professionally or you're trying to make a job out of this, you cannot really draw for free. A lot of hard work goes into each and ever drawing.
But strangers expect that they can get it all for free
Dude... Drew me I can give your a bbirg opertunity
Order of operations:
* Ask for free stuff
* Saying they can get you popularity
* Begging
* Insults and threats
* Guilt Trip
* Anger again
* End
Don't forget the sour grapes: "ha, you aren't even that good anyway".
Fun fact: as soon as you put pen to paper, you own the copyright as long as it's original work and not done under contract. The only time you would need to register a copyright is if you plan to sue for damages.
Technically, you're right. The moment you make something, it's yous. the copyright doesn't grant ownership. However, it DOES create verifiable proof of ownership. If you don't go out and get it, then if someone steals it, good luck proving you made it. I highly recommend everyone copyright everything they do. A cool loophole for people trying to save money (it's 35$ per copyright) you can create a "collection" and copyright the entire collection as a whole. So I got a copyright on a few hundred photos, for the price of one. Also, a common misunderstanding is that many people intentionally don't copywrite their work because they want to share it with others for free. You can still do this with a copyright. It changes nothing other than giving you the ability to to prove that you made it in case you ever want to prove that.
"Good luck trying to prove that you made jt" Do you know how easy it is to do this? Art get stolen all the time and artists always get them back.This happens because of art styles and lables on the art itself. Just look it up, it's so easy.
Tell that to philo
I can easily prove it haha. I always keep my files and never show the different files without a huge watermark saying my name on them. That way, even if people took an unwatermarked image, I'd still have proof from posted date, style, and files.
The magic of digital art.
But I guess for traditional art it would be a bit harder to do. You could always right your name on with pen but if the artist owned the copy they could write their name on it and act like you vandalised your name on
Blitzy Its pretty easy to remove a watermark work photoshop.
$1 for a chibi seems extremely cheap (idk the rates but it seems it should cost significantly more) Also $400 is actually pretty respectable for a blanket like that. They take forever and cost a lot on supplies
Max Garza Some really good artists charge around $25 for a chibi. $1 is insanely cheap, and assuming it takes about an hour or so to make a quality chibi drawing, $1 is way below minimum wage.
legit even if the chibi was half assed doodle on math homework it would still be a good deal tbh
Exactly! I’d charge $5 because I’m b r o k e
Max Garza $1 chino is more like the artist wants some ideas and some money, but yeah super cheap
Yeah. Like I'd charge a €5 at least.
I offer €1 chibis but only because I'd say I'm still beginner level and the market is hard when youre not a popular artist
Saying an artist owes you art because you've improved is like saying because you have an old version of a phone and a new one came out you oee it to them
The base thing at around 5:58 is complicated - they are being overdramatic though.
For those who don't frequent art/fandom spaces, a base is a piece made exclusively to be used by others. If you've ever seen those MS Paint anime girls with no hair on google images, that's probably a base. It's basically tracing, but the artist has given everyone permission to do so. You should never assume something is a base without checking, but they can also take the form of normal lineart. They're usually made to help people who aren't able to draw so well on their own yet and can be great learning tools. The intent is usually a mixture of that and a form of self-promotion by an artist to get their style more recognized. It's like you got a coloring book and the payment is loudly stating the artist's name every time you show it to someone.
The key thing here is that when an artist makes a base, they are usually expecting to be directly credited for the work. It's self-promotion, so they're going to want their name on it even if you've made a bunch of changes. The issue comes in when people don't do this. "Base not mine" is a common thing to see and it infuriates artists everywhere. I get the idea that the real reason this person is ranting is that they have been either incorrectly crediting bases or have been using non-bases as bases without the artists knowledge.
$400 is a great price for such a handmade blanket though
Halefall Right?! That's an insanely cheap price once they explained the time and costs that go into a blanket. Literally charges less than $2 an hour and the guy was *still* pussyaching about it. Smh he missed out on a great deal.
Halefall Yeah, but $800 is better.
Finna let ya finish, but I'd have charged $399. Now that's a great offer!
Albert Nave $399.99
Jesse McCree +S&H
I've wasted so much time and effort on doing things for friends and family from some design work to restoring old photos, even knitting something which took weeks and I barely even get a thank you. I finally decided not to do anything for free anymore. Don't sell yourself short
jo you got some exposure
To the fact that people will always want to take advantage of you.
Ryan Walsh so true 😂
Same here. I decided enough was enough when I spent 3 solid days doing a tattoo design for my cousin. She asked me to send pictures every five minutes (not an exaggeration). Constantly texting me about it, kept changing her mind and beating around the bush. She had a clear idea in her head but gave me vague descriptions. She was rude and pushy and kept guilting me to work faster and kept trying to tell me how to do my job. I had about 3 hours sleep altogether because I couldn't say no and my family were pressuring me to be nice to her and do what she wanted. I barely even ate because I was so stressed to get it finished. The ONLY condition I gave her was to research her artist first and get it done properly.
She got it done as soon as I finished it, her (not tattoo artist) friend did it for her with a cheap gun. Her friend had re-designed it and the whole thing looked god-awful. I wake up to see she credited me for it on ALL social media. Man, I untagged myself and blocked that bitch. Never done anything for free since and never will again.
Ps. I asked her not to credit me in the beginning because I didn't want other people asking me for free work
If you can do it well, don't do it for free, do it for some sort of return
Always charge the proper amount of time for a project despite who it is. Charging objectively makes everything simple.
THE WINSTON QUOTE IM-
WHEN YOU SAID 'why didn't she quote tracer?' I SPAT MY WATER
I don't get what's so funny about the Tracer joke. It might be because I don't play overwatch but even so, I have seen a lot of stuff about overwatch.
It's not even an Overwatch joke. He said "Tracer" because the dude was defending himself tracing bases.
Oh... Should this be some sort of r/woooosh thing now?
r/wooosh
AG_PEPPER unless you're joking, i feel sorry for you.
6:00
"We take credit for what we change in the lineart"
then do you credit the original artist? do you tell people what you added on?
....didn't think so.
"You demonstrate your skill first". That is literally usually the function of having a portfolio for people to look through before hiring you. You don't go to a 'typical' job and work for free for a full work week to prove you can do it before you're hired.
NovaCase That’s actually not that uncommon... Totally bullshit mind you and borderline illegal, but it happens a lot in low-skill positions.
I worked for one day at starbucks and had to sign that I'm not gonna get paid for that day since I'm getting taught. Since I thought I'd get hired after that I went for it. They needed workers after all..but I didn't get the job. "I was over-qualified"
@@MrPugnus888 I'm so sorry happend to you. Starbucks is full of shit
Take a shot every time the blanket guy says "You're insane"
Bella Bonks thank you..I'm dead now
Bella Bonks I’m drunk af
S h i t f a c e d
fucking chicken xuckks
The blanket guy was right about one thing. $400 is insane. The artist should be charging at least $700 for that blanket
ScrewyGrapes 😂😂😂
To be fair, he did give him a generous offer to do it for $800.
no, you are all wrong a real generous offer is 1 MILLION dollars for a blanket for an ill girlfriend that may not even exist
ScrewyGrapes *TRUMP: THE ART OF THE DEAL*
Amen.
As an artist myself, this video hurts my entire being.
We can both writhe in pain man.
Never like being asked to draw portraits of people. Happened in school and when im out in public sketching sometimes.
@@TheNexDude I had a really good friend that asked me to do a portrait of her sister for a Birthday. Of course I did it. It pains me that they printed the damn thing out, and still have it hanging up in their dining room. It's not even good, I drew it so long ago.
"A letter is not necessarily difficult for an artist to create." Then create it yourself. These people.
People like that is EXACTLY why people are going on school shootings and mass killing sprees. It has fucking nothing to do with guns. Instead of gun control, we need entitled cunt control to solve the problem of mass shooters.
r/insanepeoplefacebook
+Damian Campbell ummm hello?
Damian Campbell Don't politicize this. Please.
the last time I did something just for the exposure, I got fined by the police
can you show video proof (just for an school project)
@@xzZZZ799 lol its a joke I know your comment is a joke too dont r/wooosh me
@@kylerbartsch3898 r/whoo... n't
Hank J. Wimbleton, it’s weird how many madness combat accounts there are considering how it’s kinda underrated.
@@papaq3810 Let's make it not underrated.
'$1 is too much'
nani
if that aint me
Just. All of this chain. ME
🤔🤔
*I need a dollar song plays*
“How about a cent?”
*”thats still too expensive”*
Random Person: free art
Me: no
Random person: IM VEGAN THO
As someone who crochets? &400 is absolutely a fair price for a blanket made solely out of wool, which is super expensive, in a complex stitch. "There are always sales going on"? Usually for acrylics. In fact, almost ALWAYS for acrylics.
People don't seem to understand that when they're paying for art, they're paying for a service. And paying for services costs money. And that most artists actually UNDERPRICE THEMSELVES because of jackasses like these. I certainly know I have to.
Sydney exactly.
In fact I'm scared for when I have to grow older and earn income because all I want to do is draw but DAMM is the market hard
Blitzy Don't worry, there are still people willing to pay. But I agree with the op, some underprice themselves for people like these, and more people feel entitled to lower prices because they'll think that that's how the market is.
You need to stand your ground and educate your client on why it's priced that high. If they want your level of quality, they'll pay for it. If not, don't let them haggle it to an amateur's pricing when you aren't one.
Owns a record label but types like that. Yeah ok buddy.
Nah, they own a lable
dammit you took my line XD
ITS T-SERIES
Fun fact: whenever you write or draw something, it is immediately protected by copyright. You don't have to go through the registration bs
After seeing that "Your Insane." guy I finally understand what projection means.