Is Kyrie Irving The Most Skilled NBA Player EVER?
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- Does Kyrie Irving deserve the title of most skilled NBA player of all time?
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Kyrie's "most skilled" title is this generation's version of Shaq's "most dominant" title.
Both titles are stupid and never thoroughly explained
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@@BBoyWassabi The opposite actually. I think the titles are dumb as shit. Kyrie's title is just bag talk twitter shit and Shaq's happened because he's not the best center ever so he claimed "most dominant" to be #1 in his own made up "dominance" category.
@@MichaelAruba its all a circle jerk get in where you can fit in and if it hurt your feelings, i dont think kyrie is “most skilled” blah blah mediocre at best
@@MichaelAruba hes a ball fondler
I think making a distinction between offensively skilled and defensively skilled goes a long way in attempting to clear up the nebulous nature of the word "skilled." But ultimately, it's impossible to truly define skill and determine who is the most skilled. I think the P4P comparison was the most accurate though; a hollow term primarily meant to elicit debate.
Explain defensive skill
@@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1ability to understand schemes, calling out assignments and anchoring/being a focal point of the defence. Understanding a players tendencies and forcing them to take shots they are worse at or being able to play the analytics (i.e. if the man you're on is clutch calling for a double and forcing it to an unclutch brick merchant is showing your defensive iq and therefore defensive skill).
@@halwa9528 is that not just basketball IQ
@@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1 somewhat but that combined with good footwork, good positioning and abilitiy to slide and recover and etc are also defensive skills
@@halwa9528 so effort and iq
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Its Kobe but Kyrie is up there. Kobe is just more refined and that says alot.
What do you mean by more refined ?
Kyrie is more refined just matured at a later time in his career if you look at his %’s he’s a savant
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Who is better Kyrie or AI
All round skills?? Kobe bruh😂 if we’re talking handles and finishing, now we have an argument! Kobe has more skills defensively/ offensively
Kyrie is the 'always save' soda and Kobe is Coke Classic. Not even a comparison really
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I think you really have to make the distinction that Kyrie is the most skilled *bucket-getter* of all-time...if you think that, then he has the deepest bag, in addition to the combination of using that bag to get buckets in all sorts of ways on all sorts of defenses, and that's a reasonable argument to make. But saying "most skilled" generally is much more difficult, because a player like LeBron is more well-rounded and still good enough at getting buckets to possibly warrant getting that title.
Even this is stupid. The scoring champ is on his team. How is the guy getting less buckets the better bucket getter?
I’ll never understand why people all of the sudden started saying Kobe is the most skilled player ever? Like anything he could do Jordan could do better
this is hard to admit because i thoroughly belive that kobe is the most skilled player oat, but ever since this game winner I'm slowly being convinced that kyrie is the one who deserves that title
MJ still has this title. Skill means wins. Skill means scoring. Skill means stopping the other team from scoring. MJ was the best at scoring and one of the best at stopping the other guy from scoring. Everything else is just noise. Literally nothing else matters. It doesn't matter how flashy it looks. It doesn't matter the degree of difficulty. It just doesn't matter. Kyrie cannot be the most skilled because he's not even the best player on his own team.
It's like saying a chef is "more skilled" than another chef because he can flip his utensils around and juggle the food while he cooks it but the food from the second chef tastes better. Which one is really more skilled?
My step dad thinks pistol better is better than Steph and ray allen
Donovan saying the Kyrie's shot is better than Leonard's is blasphemy.
Just to get into my hater bag for a minute, people want Kyrie to be the Superstar he isn't so they gas him with these praises that clearly don't matter enough to actually lead a team to a W.
I think it simply means being the most skilled. It’s like Ronaldinho in soccer or Neymar being the most skilled but doesn’t mean they’re the best. They all have in common the ability to do amazing things with the ball when it comes to dribbling and scoring.
He is really good, but he is not a good first option cuz his leadership is not that good. Hiwever, he is one of the best second options ever
Yall just glazing kyrie fr fr
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Also, Ramadan Kyrie is a thing now 😂
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Offensively it’s Kyrie. Overall it’s Bron or Kobe
Overall we talking ball handling passing defense and scoring. Kobe wasn’t a good/great passer 4.7 assist on 3 to for his career . Lebron is the most skilled overall .
@@curtiszyrball handling and defense? Lebron?
Offensively, have you seen what lebron usually does when he goes left?
@@flawlezzgenocide lebron lead the league in assist, you need great ball handling to do that , lebron is 5x first team all defense. When did you start watching basketball ?
I mean if you only need great handles and efficient shooting then yeah Kyrie is in the top 10 but for those of us looking for WINS and TEAM CONCEPT he falls way short of 'skilled'
Exactly. It's like calling me a more skilled shitter because I can dance around and still get it in the toilet. But I'm not more skilled than anybody else that also always gets it in the toilet and if I ever miss, I'm less skilled and also an idiot because who dances while taking a shit?
Kyrie is really different thought
I feel like “most skilled” is just a vague title that’s kinda made up for no reason lol, like Shaq being “most dominant” like what does that even mean? If you’re the most skilled or the most dominant why aren’t you the GOAT then? Idk it’s just weird to me but ofc it’s my opinion
For sure is a pointless convo lol
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Welcome to NBA discourse. Even the GOAT debate is subjective and prone to biased takes. What does "greatest" even mean specifically? Depending on who you ask, it could mean any number of different things.
Most skilled is weird to you but “goat” isn’t ? 😂
This is a wild ass video title. Hell nah
idk, i think theres an argument for “skill” for him. that doesnt necessarily mean he’s a good playmaker, has the highest iq, etc. other elements that hes missing, but skill is an argument
@@benjimiguel17he’s not an elite playmaker but he’s definitely a good one and he’s an average defender, the mavs defensive rating is actually so much worse with kyrie off the floor.
@@benjimiguel17then the title should have qualifiers like “skilled shot maker” or “ball handler” because Kyrie is limited in so many other skill areas that the claim overall doesn’t make sense
@@jsmoove81519 i didn’t make the video my guy
@@abtocool6350I think he’s elite tbh I count playmaking in the ability to create points at any given moment whether it’s assist or scoring using ball handling and he’s about to crack the top 100 assist soon
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Nah it’s Steph.
Kyrie is skilled, but ramadan kyrie is on a different level
Offensively,kd,mello,shaq,mj,curry, and Kobe are the “most talented” defensively shaq,Tim Duncan and kawai are among the “most talented” just gifted yea Kyrie is most talented but it’s just a silly kind of debate
Shaq is NOT a talented defender, but i agree with your point
Shaq talented defender? He can block but he aint stopping opposing talented bigs
Kyrie is my Goat.
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I feel like the most skilled is Wemby
Id say hes most gifted, but that doesnt mean he isnt skilled
No way he's most skillful at all... A I is more skilfull and one guy with 4 rings playing with no 30 for Golden State Warriors as well
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Yes. Yes he is.
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Kyrie Stans are incredible. Kyrie vs Steph
Dribbling: Kyrie
Shooting: Steph
Playmaking: Steph
Rebounding: Steph
Defense: Steph (although if you could say neither you would)
Finishing: Steph (look it up it is admittedly surprising)
Steph's own teammates former and current say Kyrie is better. Why do you disagree ? Nick young has said it. Kevin Durant has said it. Draymond has said it. Andre iquodala has said it. Maybe you're just ignorant on the subject.
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Never been first team all nba he can’t be most skilled. I’d say Steph
You let the media think for you. You let media voted awards brain wash you. Your parents failed you
I replay Kobe schooling Kyrie one on one. But Kyrie is definitely top 5.
Kyrie had 28 on great efficiency and won that game.
No it’s Curry
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Funny how he is the most skilled of all time yet he is always the number 2 or 3 guy on his own team???????????
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