Gearbox/transmission oil change (2007; Peugeot/Citroen BE4R 5-speed manual)
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- Detailed guide how to change gearbox oil in 1.6HDi Peugeot Partner (same as Citroen Berlingo) with the BE4R 5-speed manual gearbox. This would be probably very similar to other Peugeot/Citroens.
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Bolt and washer dimensions:
Gearbox sump bolt: 21mm socket
Gearbox sump bolt washer: copper washer, 22mm OD, 16mm ID, 1mm thickness. I only had crush washer that was ~2.5mm thick, but worked without a problem (amazon UK): amzn.to/33QhbPz or ebay: ebay.us/j4I7Wo
Gearbox sump bolt torque setting I used: 22Nm. 25Nm would also work.
Fill bolt: 19mm socket
Fill bolt washer: aluminium washer, 22mm OD, 14mm ID, 1mm thickness. I only had an aluminium washer with 2mm thickness, but worked without a problem (amazon UK): amzn.to/2qbRLHQ or ebay: ebay.us/bLn5IY
Fill bolt torque setting I used: 22Nm, 25NM would also work.
Th original washers can be re-used, but I prefer a new washer.
The oil started dripping from the level hole at just under 1.9L of Total Transmission Gear 8 oil 75W80. If that is not convenient one can use the breather bolt on top of the transmission.
I used Total Transmission Gear 8 75W80, but that cannot be found anywhere, but these should also work (amazon UK): amzn.to/3NJP6x8 or ebay: ebay.us/CpDkuv
I used this syringe kit to put in the new oil (amazon UK): amzn.to/31E8F1R or ebay: ebay.us/mXZSlw
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Thank you for recording this procedure, now I dare to do it in my 2.0 HDI 110
Hi Jordi, really glad it may help, hope it goes smooth in your 2.0 HDi
Great video as always very informative
Great video, thank you !
Cracking job mate, thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Thank You from Bulgaria!Very,very good video.Appreciate Your help.
what problem can the citroen c crosser have, after 30 minutes of driving it presents a problem with the automatic transmission
The torques taken out of the service manual - Breather - 17Nm; Fill plug - 22Nm, Drain plug - 35Nm. This is valid for BE4/5 gearbox. Check page 217 for reference.
Mine were taken from the PSA workshop manual and there might be some differences in these.
Thanks for that, I'm due to do this at the weekend and looks a doddle
No worries. The only thing that was a bit of a faff was filling with oil. The damn thing is really viscous.
I changed oil but put the new oil in through the top of the gear box. There is a fill plug just between the air intake and the battery tray. Have to take battery out and remove the tray for better access but once done much easier to fill. 1.9 litres came out as per guide
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Hi Stewart, yes, the new oil can be put through the top of the gearbox, but I did not want to remove the battery + tray. I guess it is the same, if you can measure exactly how much oil has come out.
I managed to do it without removing the tray. Very tight but it is possible. Mainly as I couldn't figure out how to remove the tray.
Nice one, very clear.
Great video. I will order the 2 washers from my local volvo dealer.
2007 92bhp HDi 1.6 Partner Multispace: I put car front wheels on ramp tops to level the car on a sloping drive, and then turned steering wheel full to get easy access to the level plug without taking a wheel off. Sump guard needs removal for drain plug. You do not need to use a siphon to inject - I used a length of pipe onto a plastic funnel, and topped up funnel with 150ml each time before raising the funnel up into the wing space so oil moves quickly. Car at 101k, don't think its been replaced before, and was surprised how 'fluid' the oil seemed still. Dirty-ish, but fluid. More worried about rust starting on suspension lower arms!
Yep, that is good advice. I should have used a funnel with hose, but had to fit it somewhere and did not think about it at the end and used my syringe. Yeah, the oil is still quite good, but if one wants to keep the vehicle, it is an easy maintenance thing to do.
Still helpful, thanks!! 😊
Great video. Seems very much applicable to my petrol 1.8 406.
Thanks for helping us out! Thumbs up!!!
Thanks you for the encouragement.
@@moremolecules my Pleasure!
Thanks. Very helpful 😄
Great video thanks alot
Using your torque wrench to undo bolts....noooooooo. PERFECT video thank You
Yes, I know, but sometimes it is really convenient and I forget. Hahaha
First I want to say very good video. I have actually used some of your other videos as guide when maintaining my own Peugeot Partner. Thank you for that. Now to the question?
Could you perhaps tell me how to check what gearbox is in my car?
My car is a Peugeot Partner 2008 model, 1,6HDi with engine code 9HW.
Hi Command3r, that's a bit more difficult, but not impossible. One option is if you can give me your VIN number and I can check it for you. You can send it via e-mail (about page on the channel) if you do not want to share it with everyone. The other option is to register in the public.servicebox.peugeot.com and input your in there.
Xantia 1.8i 16v year of make 1998 has the same locations of fill and drain plugs. Just wanted to share with you in case people search for it.
Many thanks Andrej, that's really useful.
@6 seconds in, spider alert on tyre @ 4'o'clock position. :-) probs a mirror spider on a day out. Great vid buddy, very helpful. Thanks, vinny.
Hahaha, yes, I probably disturbed the morning mellow of this spider. Good find
Thanks a lot !
appreciated thank you!
Thank you
thnx mate :)
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It's great vedio helps me a lot but I have a question about my pegeout 407 2000cc should I check gearbox oil level when Engine on or off and what position my gear should be on tnx God bless
Hi Ahmad, I always check it with in gear and with engine off. Engine should definitely be off and not running for awhile for the oil to cool down and drop. In or out of gear should not matter.
Thanks
is it the same on a peugeot 3008 1.6 hdi manual from 2012?
Thank you so much for your video. I have question. I use peugeot bipper metro +. Can apply this method?
I am not familiar with the bipper, but if there is a level hole it should be the same.
Hello there. Thanks for the video. I have a 2011 model 5008 euro5 engine. this car has AUTO6R transmission. Is the oil change in your video the same?
The procedure for the automatic transmission oil change is different. Unfortunately I do not have a video for that. Try searching youtube for something for the auto gearbox. It is a bit more complicated, as the filler and the drain is in one plug, kind of.
PEUGEOT 206 1.4 HDİ araçta da aynı şekilde mi ?
Can you please tell me about citroen c4 mcp automatic gearbox oil change interval and type of oil ? And actuator oil change ?
Hi Azher, I do not really know the mcp auto box. The AL4 is every 30,000 miles. Type of oil is also pretty difficult to know, you have to look into Citroen service maintenance booklet.
Very great video.the washer sumplug what you used is it the same what you use for engine oil change ? Diameter would be I believe 14 mm
I bought new ones, not too sure if they are the same for the sump. All the dimensions are in the description of the video, inside, outside diameters and thickness
@@moremolecules thank you
I have to take a look at the gearbox drain bolt because there are some oil drops on the floor everytime I park the car. A mechanic told it could be because of a damaged crankshaft seal but that's not possible on the left side of the engine if I'm not wrong. It might be the gearbox gasket or axle shaft seal?
It could well be gearbox driveshaft seal. They do leak and due to the position it would drip towards the gearbox drain bolt. It is unlikely to be the drain bolt, bt you never know, if you wipe it clean you should be able to see where it drips from, but I bet it is the driveshaft seal.
what problem can the citroen c crosser have, after 30 minutes of driving it presents a problem with the automatic transmission
On my 207 1.6 vti there's a whining noise in 3rd, 4th and 5th between 2000 and 3000 RPM so I suppose it's the gearbox. It has done 120 000 km. Do you think an oil change could help?
Hi Shmu'el, it has not done that many km for it to develop a serious problem, so it is a bit undetermined. It's worth a try, although I doubt it will fix the whine, but you never know. The gearbox oil is supposed to be for life, but how do the car manufacturers determine life, 3 years, 5 years..
Do I need to level the car before filling gearbox? Or should I just left the car raised after removing the wheel?
Hi voltan, good question. I did not level the car, but it will be more accurate if you level it, i.e. lower the ca slightly. In any case, the difference in the level of the oil in the gearbox due to the raised car will not be that much.
@@moremolecules Thank you very much :)
How Breather plug (one on the top of gearbox) looks like? should it have a hole or be full closed? Mine was plastic and wit a hole, but I changed it to full brass cap. I don't know if it's ok.
It should have a hole, it is a breather hole, so when the oil gets too hot you get some expansion and potentially oil to escape. The plastic bit is to stop oil spewing around. With a full brass cap, the oil has nowhere to go and will spew oil from the seals.
Im struggling to find whether in my 3008 1.6 hdi 6 speed manual capacity is the same as in the 5 speed? Theres no level hole
Not too sure about the 6-speed, but the level hole might be integrated into the drain hole as in automatics.
hie,, My car peugeot 3008 1.6 ltr is changing from automatic to manual when driving. it start to show parking brake faulty, abs braking system faulty and then change to manual showing gear box faulty on the dashbord. what will be the problem? there is a friction again when changing gears from 1 to 2 i am suspecting gear box oil needs top up,
Not too sure about that, you may need to check it out with an auto gearbox specialist.
Hello, it’s the same for Peugeot 308 gasoline year 2011?
Hi Pape, not too sure about the 308, probably, as long as the gearbox is the same.
Hi
I am wondering how much transmission fluid does a peugeot partner 2012 automatic take?
I'm not too sure about the 2012 automatic, sorry. It is probably about the same, but I might be completely wrong.
Could you tell me how to change the fuel filter and where the fuel filter is?
See here: th-cam.com/video/TomdeC7Tcbs/w-d-xo.html
So warmup the engine before? Did u say to leave it in gear or in neutral is fine?
Yes, warm up engine before hand, it will be easier to flow. I do not think it matters if it is in neutral or in gear, I think I left in neutral.
Pls you said to put the car in gear... Reverse, Neutral or drive? Then after the oil change, do I push the gear back to pack before cracking the engine on?
Reverse, Neutral or Drive would be for automatics, this is for manual gearbox. The in-gear for manual ones, it does not really matter which gear is selected, preferably 1st so when the car is lifted from the front it does not roll backwards. Safety measure is to put blocks on the rear wheels to prevent the car rolling backwards.
When I switch off the engine I always put it in 1st or reverse, depending on if I am on a hill. WHen cranking the engine I always have my foot on the clutch in order to ease the spinning of the engine, in this case it does not matter if it is in gear, but for a precaution I have it in neutral, so I do not accidentally release the clutch and the car to lurge forward.
Hope this helps.
@@moremolecules this was very helpful, thanks.
Hello, is it the same on a xsara picasso 1.8 16v ?
Should be as long as the gearbox is the same
I am interested in 1.6 hdi, 2012 how much oil do I need? for automatic transmission tanks
Not too sure how much is the oil in the automatic one, but the procedure will be much different. You need the gearbox oil to be in very high temperature and then the fillup will most likely be on top rather than on the side.
I own a partner and thanks to you i make some repairs. Right now i need to change my gear linkages. Is there any kind of setting pls?
Apologies, saw you comment too late. Not too sure about the gear linkages, I have not done it myself, so difficult to comment. Haynes manual might be of help, although I never found it to be very useful.
@@moremolecules thanks for reply :) i kept the same settings like old removed ones.
Thanks jou
Do you know if the same transmission is used with the 1.6 TDCi on a 2008 MK2 Focus (5-speed manual)? Or if the process is the same? Can’t find any videos or information about it online.
Good question. The engines are the same, but gearbox is upto Ford. Generally speaking it is the same, but position of drain plugs and filling might be different as well as the quantity of oil. It should be generally speaking the same.
Thanks for replying. I have a small drip from the trans, and what I suspect to be the fill plug has a rounded out allen key head.
@@MickiSel Is this the top fill plug? These generally are allen key. They do sometimes leak a bit or at least breathe out a bit with the oil getting hot and expanding it has to go somewhere, so they leak a tiny bit.
Why are some people filling from the vent at the top of the gearbox rather than the filler bolt that you use?
Hi Rami, because it is easier, but it is very easy to overfill or be short of liquid inside. People would measure how much was drained and fill the same amount of liquid from the top. The top is just a breather and not filling hole. Say some liquid evaporated during the lifetime of the gearbox, then measuring the amount drained and filling the same amount will be short of what is required.
Plug on the side, always use it to see when it is full.
However filling from the top is much easier...
Especially much easier than han using that tiny syringe.
Hi what gearbox oil do I buy for my Peugeot partner 1.6 hdi 07 plate
It's in the description of the video
Heat copper washers to rose red with bernzo torch, allow to cool and reuse
Hi Tim, thanks for the commend and advice to harden the copper washer. It seems cheaper to just buy the washer than a torch, otherwise the torch would not get much use, although I can always find some use for it. Cheers
@Kristen555 Haha, that's what I thought as well, although if one has a torch it would work also.
Aneal...the process
Sir its dirt cheap not worth to reuse it
A mechanic previously changed my transmission fluid and told me should only ever change half of the content. I never asked why. Do you know any reason for this. And if this is correct, should i drain all from the bottom and then pour back half in or should i only try to stop the draining when it is about half. Thanks for the video. Looks simple enough
Hi Jess, I have never heard this one before to replace half of it and I cannot really find a good reason to do it. It is similar to engine oil, you would not keep half of it inside. It will very quickly pollute the new oil. Just drain as much as yuou can and fill through the filler hole till it drips. Safer than trying to gauge where 1/2 is.
From what I read it is valid for automatic transmissions which are sensitive and can get damaged by a flush, but for manual gearboxes inclusive semi autos (robot-clutch) no problem changing the oil.
Because in automatic trans, the old fluid is retaining clutch friction debris. If your clutches are worn, putting new fluid will make clutches slip.
gj, is this similar to any psa 5° gearboxes?
It should be similar, but the amount of oil might be different.
Peugeot 3008 1.6 hdi normaly holds 75w80w1.8 litre oil and i put 2.6 litre 80w90w am i in trouble as put 800ml extra oil and seems like oil little thick??? Old oil was thinner then what I put in???
Hi Bahadir, there is something going on here. Did you pour it in through the leveller hole or through the top? if it is through the top, you need to open the leveller hole and let it level on its own. If it was through the level hole, then either it is not 1.8L or the car is not really level. Is the car on a level surface? As for the thickness, how many miles has your car travelled? In general I would not expect to be thinner, but it is a bit of a guesswork.
I did poor it from top. 2500ml the then I check car manuel 1.8 litre. I have been driving 100 mile so far .I only change it couple days ago .I haven’t noticed anything except in the morning when is cold gears are not going in nice as before . Use to be gear changing was nice and soft now very little hard to change.but noise level drop little bit which this was What I am looking for . So Did old check the viscosity difference with my old one and new one I mean looklike Old oil was 5w30 and what poor in thick like 20w 40
@@bahadirdogan6208 You need to undo the leveller bolt and it will drain all the excess fluid. I did not quite understand the viscosity writing. More oil will not be good overall. If you look at the top where you poured it, it will have spilled quite a bit from driving. Definitely open the leveller bolt on the side behind the wheel and let it empty.
more molecules thanks I will do it this weekend
Hello have you changed a clutch in your partner? I just did it in mine but the clutch pedal works weird now, I can only feel any resistance in the very bottom of the pedal I assume that might be due to air in the system? Mine looks like it's hydraulic but not sure how to check if there is a cable there? Have you ever bleed the system or adjusted the cable if you got one? I have the same car, same year. Cheers mate!
I have not done it, but the brake fluid and the clutch is shared. You would need to bleed the system. If I am not mistaken, there is a clutch bleed valve on the slave cylinder located at the fron of the gearbox. You may need one of those pressure brake bleeding systems. Easier to use and it will expell the air more efficiently.
If you look on the top of the engine, just underneath the oil cooler (aluminium cooler with fins) the slave cylinder bleeding valve is there. You would need one of those clutch hand-held vacuum bleeding systems to put on top of the bleed valve.
@@moremolecules many thanks for the quick reply boss! :) What if I just bleed it the traditional way just by pushing 5he clutch pedal and releasing the bleed valve? Do you think this won't be good enough? Thanks again I really like your channel, greetings from Liverpool ;)
@@onionridetv Maybe, not too sure, I have not bled it myself. I suspect it could be done the usual brake bleeding way, press clutch and so on. Worth to try and see if it improves. If it does not, then get one of the hand-held clutch bleeding kits.
@@moremolecules will give it a go, thank you!
Great vid, what was in the tube you squeezed into the fill level bolt hole?!?
Gearbox oil
@@moremolecules yeah I know the stuff he pumped into the gearbox was oil , but the toothpaste tube of stuff I was asking about?!?
@@samsonmtx Ahh, not too sure what "toothpaste tube" that is. As far as I can see there was only a syringe to put in the new oil, as it was difficult to pour it in any other way.
It’s at 8mins48… white toothpaste style tube of stuff..
@@samsonmtx Yeah, that is a syringe that I used to put the oil inside the gearbox. I should have probably drilled a hole in the oil cap and put the tube inside and put the oil bottle upside down. Probably a lot better than with the syringe.
After how many miles should gear oil be changed
Good question, they are supposed to be sealed for life or that is what manufacturers tell you. In other words you do not need to replace it, but no one tells you what life is, for the car manufacturers this might be 5 years and even better for them if the gearbox breaks and you buy a new one. Probably 60-80k miles is a good period in my book.
Helpful video and thanks for that. But you should not be using your torque wrenches to unloose bolts.
Hi Alexis, yes I know, but sometimes one cannot avoid it.
@@moremolecules 😁😁😁. I understand. I once did it too but I really did not know I shouldnt. So never did it again. You have the small torque wrench that I also have to buy. I try to tighten all bolts according to right torque settings and need the smaller one for that.
@@alexisamtosta That smaller one is really good and convenient. Some bolts are positioned way too tight and I cannot put anything else in there to tighten them to specification. It has a small head and can be fitted with ease. I also try to do everything by the torque specifications, but some people can do it by hand. I cannot do it, most of the times I would break the bolt and I have done that before as it feels too loose.
@@moremolecules Yes it is handy. Some bolts you can do by hand. Especially when its plastic parts. I also do the spark plugs by hand. Many times bolts just need a snug and thats it.
hello is this the same with 301 HDi Manual Transmission?
Not too sure if you meant 308, but I am not too sure if it is the same manual, but could be.
peugeot 2008 from 2018, same thing? 1.2 gasoline 110hp ?
I do not think it will be the same thing. Mine is 2007, so much older. Generally it should be the same as long it is manual, but not too certain to be honest
Is the same oil for citroen jumper 2002 hdi 2.8? It’s a motorhome.
Hi Dani, I do not really know. If it is the same gearbox, then it should be the same.
more molecules How can i know my gearbox? Is there an serial number that i have to find?
@@D4aniB Can you send me your VIN number on my e-mail address. You can go on the about page and reveal the address. I can then check. Or you can go to public.servicebox.peugeot.com/pages/index.jsp But you need to register
Aneal the old washer, heat it red hot on the kitchen cooker ring,drop into cold water, repeat
Yes, that is a good advice. The washer will become a bit more pliable.
Is the same of Peugeot 208 1.6 hdi?
Hi kal, if it is the same gearbox then it should be the same, but I am not too sure about the 208.
Pls is this info on Citroën c3 2004 model
Hi james, it will be the same as long as the gearbox is the same (BE4R 5-speed manual). There are several different gearboxes, so it depends what you have.
I can't undo the fill bolt it's extremely tight the socket slipped off and has nearly rounded the bolt head
That is rather unfortunate. You have two options, either undo that bolt with some sort of left-hand dril bit or fill the gearbox from the top with a funnel. 1.9L should be OK, unless you measure exactly how much it came out.
Am have problem my gear when I want to change it is very hard
Not too sure if I understand, is it that the fluid change is hard or the gear change is hard?
If you change the transmission oil without changing the gearbox filter, will it affect you, I am thinking of changing the filter when changing the transmission oil
As far as I am aware, there is not a user replaceable filter within the gearbox. Maybe I am wrong.
@@moremolecules Can you please tell me how many liters do I need to change the new oil change gearbox? I'm thinking about replacing 3 liters, is there any surplus?
@@oanthinh6013 Depends on your gearbox/car. Mine was ~1.9L. Generally you put the same amount that you have taken out, but if there is a level hole, you pour it in until it leaks out. Depends on the gearbox of course.
can you please write me the exact dimensions of both cooper washers ty
There are in the desciption of the video, the full details
Hi sir may i know if this is applicable to a 2010 citroen grand c4 picasso?
Hi there, it should be fairly similar, but I am not too sure about the size of oil back in.
@@moremolecules alright thank you so much, do you have any idea where can i find the throttle body? Because i been searching it there are no video tutorial location of throttle body and how to clean them. hope you will make one cheers 🙃😊
@@marchiegalorio5751 Ahh, is this 1.6HDi? The throttle body is just after the intercooler. Should be on the left of the engine, just after the pipes from the intercooler if it is 1.6HDi. If it is a petrol engine, then it is a different position.
Hi my 308 1.6hdi was leaking oil, I thought it was the engine oil but noticed it wasn’t dropping on the dipstick. Now I’m hearing loud grinding/scrapping in 1st and 2nd gears also when idle. Also noise stops when clutch pressed. Would it be due to leaked gear oil?
The clutch noise is simply a noisy clutch, mine does the same. It is not too loud, but still there. You do not really want the gearbox to run on empty, it will disintegrate pretty quickly, of course this will depend on how much oil is left. If I were you I would undo the fill up bolt and top it up and see how much empty it is, better than doing nothing.
@@moremolecules Thanks for replying. I’m going to mechanic soon. He mentioned possible thrust bearing problem too. Probably from leak. I hope I’ve caught it early and not too much damage done. The noise is pretty loud and sounds as if somethings going to break.
@@moremolecules th-cam.com/video/x4_6T9isjgA/w-d-xo.html
Here’s a video. The crackling/rattling is happening whilst idle and 1st n 2nd gears.
@@Joethecatholic This sounds pretty bad, but could it be some sort of loose shield or something. That should not be clutch, but I am not a clutch expert. Hopefully you have caught it early.
hello, on a 92hp 1.6HDi berlingo, it is possible to drain and refill the gearbox oil without removing the battery and not removing the left wheel. You have to turn the wheel completely to the left to have the filler cap. oil, lay a flexible pipe with a funnel and fill. 0:15 0:15
I know how to attach the video
Probably possible, but safer to do with removing the wheel to gain access to the fill plug.
what problem can the citroen c crosser have, after 30 minutes of driving it presents a problem with the automatic transmission pleasee🤝
What is the problem, I could not quite understand.
@@moremolecules my citroen c crosser presents a problem for about 40 minutes of driving, let it rest then it runs fine again when I continue for about 30-40 minutes it presents a problem!! I've changed the electronics, the lamellas still can't be adjusted! What could be the problem, please thank you
@@bardhylsylejmani606 Most problems with the automatic ones is the oil. It is fairly new the citroen c crossover, so probably better to bring it to the dealer to have a say.
@@moremolecules a chano oil bat again problem!!!
HI PEOPLE.IM IN NEED OF HELP.IVE CHANGED A CLUTCH ON 307SW AND I NEED A PICTURE OF THE GEAR LINKAGE ON THE GEARBOX SIDE.ALL THE PLASTIC BARS ETC..DOES ANYONE PLEASE HAVE A GOOD CLEAR PICTURE I COULD GET.ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME
Have a look here www.catcar.info/peugeot/?lang=en
I have a sensodrive Citroen C3 MK1 2006
Do I have to go through the same procedure?
I think that is the automatic AL04 gearbox. That is a completely different procedure. I have one of these in my other car and will eventually do a vido on that, but it is more complex.
@@moremolecules thanks a lot mate
Looking forward to that.
I looked online and it said the Citroen C3 MK1 (2002-2009) comes in three different gearboxes
1. The manual 5 speed gearbox(the one you have)
2. The automatic 4 speed gearbox
3. The sensodrive 5 speed gearbox (which is semi automatic, or tronic as it is otherwise called) which is my model
I'm not sure you have the automatic one or the sensodrive one
Anyways thanks a lot for your help!
@ They are all semi-automatic, in other words there is a manual mode that you can switch to and manually change gears. As far as I know and your model/year there is not one with 5 speed auto. Mine is the second model, semi-automatic triptronic Porsche design, but it is 4 speed.
@@moremolecules it is 5 speed
I checked
@ Interesting, yes I checked as well, there appears to be 5-speed auto. The procedure for the AL04 and the 5-speed should be the same. One needs to check that the temperature of the oil in the gearbox is between >50C, as far as I remember, and then drain the oil. Then the topup is a bit more difficult with a double screw for the oil drain.
Gearbox don't need vent?
Not too sure what I have said, but they do need a vent and it is on top of the gearbox.
Is it the same for peugeot 206 1.4?
Good question, if it is the BE4R 5speed manual gearbox, then it should be the same, although the amount if oil might be different. As far as I know, the position of the two bolts is the same.
@@moremolecules thanks, do you mean matic?
@@boakedogawa No, I meant manual rather than automatic. If it is automatic gearbox, then it will be different.
@@moremolecules owh I see, i though this is for changing the AL4 matic transmission oil.
So for the matic, the bolt is only below the battery?
@@boakedogawa No, it is for the manual one. Unfortunately I do not really know about the automatic gearbox. I can only assume it is similar, but that is just a guess.
Is it same for 3008?
Hi Jas, if it is the same gearbox model it will be the same.
It's worth putting the new bottles in hot water for a while to make the new oil easier to dispense
Yeah, good advice. Should have posted it before I was doing this ;-)
How many miles?
Hi John, I assume you are asking how many miles has the car travelled? At the time of filming it was ~93,000 miles.
dont know what oil you were useing but it was not gearbox oil,as gearbox oil is red,redish.
maybe it was olive oil
Hahaha, it is gearbox oil, see the frame at: th-cam.com/video/95QarTgx4mI/w-d-xo.html
I wonder why gearbox oil is so dirty? i have changed oil in other manufacturer cars and oil was pretty clean...
That's how it is unfortunately.
I would pump oil back into the gearbox using a cheap electric oil transfer pump.
That is a good suggestion, but I suspect the pump will burn out. The oil is extremely viscuous and the pump will have very hard time pushing the fluid.
I would use large syringe purpose made on e bay
Thanks i guess 75 80w oil grade !
Yes it is, 75W80. I have a link to the oil in the description of the video
I think it needs more than 22 NM. It needs 35 NM.
Yeha, quite right. At the end I did 35Nm so it does not leak
Really mate changing GBX oil at 20k you're wasting your time and money !
It's not like engine oil where the oil is carrying contaminants like water & carbon.
In modern industrial maintenance GBX oils are sampled and only changed if found to be out of spec. Oils can remain in constant use for thousands of hours. The sampling is usually looking for metals showing fatigue which leads to failure.
If you're having GBX problems then go looking in the oil for contaminants.
At regular 20k changes you're just throwing away good oil.
If you're going to reuse copper sealing washers anneal them first.
ATB Mitch.
I completely agree that GBX oils can be used for thousands of hours, but the "sealed for life" manufacturers claim is ridiculous. Even sitting around would degrade the oil. I also probably would not replace it every 20,000 miles, it is too much of a waste to do it that often, as you have said. Also, how accessible is testing of GBX oil to general consumers, not really that accessible. Yes, for the commercial users is more than useful and done frequently. With the designed obsolescence, probably ~5 years for car manufacturers, I would certainly change it at ~100k miles, as I have done in the video. Even if it is only a piece of mind.
@@moremolecules but in the manuel writes : do not change the gbx fluid if you don’t have any problems with your automatic gearbox!
@@vladimirart758 Mine was manual and over 100k miles, so in my book that is time for a change.
The automatic gearboxes definitely have a shorter fluid change timeframe. For example, the AL04 in Peugeot/Citroen/Renault definitely need changing. I do not quite remember how frequently
@@moremolecules my Peugeot is 3008 , 2009 1.6 HDI semi automatic gearbox
@@vladimirart758 Yes, these have a different procedure of changing the oil fluid, it is very particular to draining and filling up. There is also an ECU counter that counts the number of miles/km that it has passed. On top of my memory I do not quite remember how long, but I think something in the range of ~60,000miles.
Nice video, but there's no need to change gearbox oil, it's simply not subjected to the same stress as engine oil and is an unnecessary expense as the vehicle will be scrapped/sold long before it fails due to the oil alone.
The oil is usually clear/amber even at 200-300km the fact that yours is brown/gray says more about the wear condition of your gearbox and driving style then the oil itself.
I agree that it is an additional expense, but I plan on driving the car a few more years. It could be a placebo effect, but it seems like gear changes are a bit smoother after the oil change.
@@weekendwarrior7080 I completely agree with you. Car manufacturers are in the business of selling cars and people are generally pretty poor at maintaining their cars. Lifetime of a car is rather difficult to define and it differs between different entities with rather competing/different interests. There was also a scientific paper on the effect of changing the gearbox oil on fuel consumption, which I started to notice, i.e. better fuel economy with nothing much else changed.
Inside of my 6 speed gearbox after 200k km was not an Oil but a mud. Even after second change Oil was dirty. After Oil change, change of gears are slightly better So i dont know what are you Talking about. Iam changing gearbox Oil always after when i buy new used car and always is better.
The manufacturer says the gearbox is sealed for life. They say no need the change the oil. The life of the gearbox is governed by many things including the oil condition. It’s common sense to change the oil because all oil breaks down over time and parts are wearing over time leaving a metal residue in the gearbox contributing to the breakdown of the gear box. I change my gearbox oil every 50,000 because I like my car and want it to last.
@@moremolecules
I got a problem with my peugeot partner 2013. There's a strange noise when the engine runs but when I press the clutch pedal, it goes away.
Can you plz tell me what it could be?
Thx