I own the .43 cal Glock 17 Gen 5 version, I use .43 cal steel rounds. Unfortunately I had to use it on someone in self defense as well as in defense of my brother. The attacker had a good amount of blood and open wounds from a CO2 pistol. I admit, I was surprised. I wasn't expecting my first time shooting it to be for defending my brother or myself, I wanted my first time to be shooting at an old TV or an old abandoned car.
@@dafuqtv3554 Would you care to elaborate about the situation? What was the cause? Where did you hit him, at what distance, and how many rounds did you hit him with? Thanks
wow, now this was truly amazing!! great respect for you for doing this, I've seen some with motorcycle helmets, or thick clothes, most intruders and not gonna be dressed like that, out of respect for you he still had 4 more rounds, I purchased the same handgun but mine has 2 pepper ball up front and the rest are aluminum balls, again thanks for taking one for the team ya crazy nut
Very cool, thanks for kindness, yes Sir I agree 👍 in my vids, there's a vid called she get to shoot me for science. Let here unload four riot balls at me. Chech it out. Thanks again.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel I hope the answer is no, but have you had to use it in a “real” scenario? Or know anyone that has? I ask because there are so many video online but you have .43 50, .68. I know .68 would be good for pepper balls. I want to use those but i want pain to stop without killing. Any input aside from this video would really be appreciated. God Bless.
Thank you for this video GOOD SIR! Hey yall..I got this bad boy with the steel rounds an decided to let the c02 just hangout for 1 week, occasionally taking the mag in/out and to my SURPRISE BOY DID IT PERFORM! This WILL be SOOOO HARMFUL MAYBE DEADLY if hit in head/face within possibly 10 feet. BE SAFE.
I just bought one and I have been tinkering with the rubber over steel. Not impressed to save my life nah, I am ordering the PVC over steel and the aluminum. I am told it will crack a skull. But Idk I think just the show of it will help in 90% of cases the 10% I may run like a girl.
Is it possible to increase or decrease the velocity of this gun? Or it has a fixed FPS? Thanks! I mean its truly powerful and actually much more powerful than I thought!
There is a video of a guy changing the spring inside the magazine to a much lighter spring. This is so that the canister uses more co2 per shot. Some said this improved FPS, some said it did not. I'm going to test it when I get it.
Did u used rubber balls or pvc balls. I do have the pvc balls but I doubt that u guys used those because they r way more painful than those pepper balls
Thanks for a great Video. As you have tried it, felt the pain I mean. I have a question. Do you think that I you loaded the ppq up mit .43cal ball bearings and shot somebody in the head. Would that knock them out? I See and read so many that says it is good for self defence and some says it won't work. So I thought I'd ask you guys, because having tried this you should be able to give an expert advice. Thanks.
I realy don't see myself as an expert, thanks though lol! With the right spring replasement fpr the steel ball's, and the riot ball's, yes it is efective for self defence. For stopping power only though. thank you for your comment, God bless
You are the real stuf. I know yt will use algoritmes to back it down..but your blood is my blood sir. Many thanks for this video! May God bless you and your family.
holy shit man your a real one taking one for the less than lethal team i heard the pepper what were the other rounds and isnt this thing less powerful than the mercury rise tr50 if so damn i wouldnt want to be shot by either and how bad was the pepper
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel This gun shoots 5 joules max. Even with a valve drill mod and suppression of blowback from what I saw in another vid. I will still try on mine but i don't expect more than 6-7 joules max
Thank you for sharing! Entertaining video... Your brother-in-law really enjoyed it and was having fun. No one can wipe off that smile. However, if you have a pistol in your hand, would you run toward the other person to attack?... It is the same as your brother-in-law running toward you to defend A more realistic scenario was you with a knife in hand running towards him...... In a real attack mode, you would have charged the other person no matter what (not turn around)... especially that close... Air pistols and pepper balls have their space and time for use. It is the only protection I carry on me... If someone else has a gun or anything that looks like a gun I would first look for shelter and then fight back. If no shelter is available fight back is the only option...
Those are some nasty wounds from a 5 joule paintball gun. I can only imagine how much the 11-20 joule .50 cal version (Umarex HDP) would feel. Very glad he didn't hit you in the face, that would not have been nice.
It did hurt a bit, the chock stung like hell, but it was the pepper, won't say the real name of them that took me down. I'm not a real big guy, but those rounds are definitely home defence capable.
I live in Europe (the Czech Republic) and own the 11 joule version. Even firing it terrifies me. The first couple of shots make a pretty loud bang, and the rubber/steel composite balls can penetrate a baked bean can, leaving a gaping hole. I wouldn't like to be on the end of one of those if I were wearing just a T-shirt; though I think they would be ineffective against a thick winter coat. But, then, you can always aim for the face (ouch) or use pepper balls. Nasty stuff.
Thanks for doing that for all of us. Tell me is it not good to leave the co2 in the magazine if u don’t use it once it’s pierced u have to use it or lose it? Or it can dry out the seal true or false?
I had one and loved it! I bought solid steel 5gram riot balls for mine, but it was stolen from me after my ex set me up and got me jumped etc...luckily I'm getting my LTC in the next month anyway so 💁
The gun came with the blue rubber balls, not sure what grain they are. Can tell you though, the chock and pepper hurt like hell. The shot to my arm is still healing.
Bryan Childers I think the blue ones are 20.8 grains, the riotballs are about 30.8 grains made from solid pvc with a bearing in the middle, you are crazy mate fair play to you it’s definitely not something you do again in a hurry 😂😂 www.riotballs.com/products/100-x-less-lethal-43-cal-2-0-grams-pvc-w-metal-ball-rb-u2g
I own one and carry it appendix every day with extra mag and always everyday wonder if it will actually do the trick to stop a would be attacker is this real ?? Or are you exaggerating ..and how do I make my ppq more powerful is there a way to open the air port for more fps
Excellent very real video. Your friend shot you in the body. If you were shot in the head, face, balls, knees, most assuredly you would have gone down even faster. You have the toughness most wannabes don’t. And you showed how even an armed attacker could be taken down with riot balls. Excellent work!!!!
Let’s all be honest owners here, these guns will absolutely NOT STOP A MOTIVATED ATTACKER… These can be used to create distance and a few precious seconds to escape and evade or turn the table on an unarmed attacker but you have better have a blade or steel collapsible baton or something similar…
@@CaRlOSRoShI Thanks for Watching, I personally would use the Taser, and the ppq for security work. LOL, but if I had to choose one, I would go with the taser.
@@germanwarrior6463 1.9 grams each .43 caliber should I Modify anything on my Walter ppq whn using soild aluminum rounds balls and will thy do more damage
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel The chock? I have one and Wll it save my life? PVC over steel? this is serious. Im not teasing I am security in church . Cant carry real...
If you had an edged weapon, you could have gutted him despite taking some painful hits- but if an assailant has a pistol as well, why would they charge? I appreciate you taking the hits for science, but I've seen motivated people take multiple rounds from real guns and keep on coming.
This gun packs a punch! It can kill if you shot at the right spot on a human. I've been shot from 40ft away and it took me to the ground crying and I'm 6 ft 5. Perfect for home defense
Co2 replicas do not stop those with intent or under the influence of drugs or alcohol. There is a reason for non leathal 'training for engagement', it's training for the use of lethal force. Please do not confuse the two, it will get people hurt. Please also do not randomly flag just about everything in your environment while chatting to camera, it shows incredibly poor SP and discipline. Be safe and enjoy, but don't play a games in real life...please.
Agreed, except it is the .43 cal that doesn't stop agressors, not any co2 guns. All these .43 should not be used in a self defense context. For that purpose you should use .68 cal with a Tiberius t8.1, or a tippman Tipx, or a Umarex HDX for example. I woudn't consider using anything under 15 joules for self defense. My T9.1 can go up to 40j, but that becomes somewhat less "less lethal" at that power
@@bipbipbip5599 No air/co2 pistol is appropriate for self defence. I have seen individuals maintain a threat with multiple 9mm pistol rounds in them (talon) and 9mm ball through n though. DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH HALF MEASURES PLEASE!
@@Guide504 I mean, if you CAN have a firearm, sure, but if not, a good paintball marker can je a good tool for that purpose, combined with pepper spray
I own the .43 cal Glock 17 Gen 5 version, I use .43 cal steel rounds. Unfortunately I had to use it on someone in self defense as well as in defense of my brother. The attacker had a good amount of blood and open wounds from a CO2 pistol. I admit, I was surprised. I wasn't expecting my first time shooting it to be for defending my brother or myself, I wanted my first time to be shooting at an old TV or an old abandoned car.
I would like to know more about this, Im planning the same gun that you have
Are you being serious?? Did the guy go down was there enough time to zip tie him up after you shot him??
I use my as a less lethal option in the bail bonds industry. Works like magic to get someone to comply so we can cuff them.
@YungShane💯 yup, and they stayed down.
@@dafuqtv3554 Would you care to elaborate about the situation? What was the cause? Where did you hit him, at what distance, and how many rounds did you hit him with? Thanks
Thank you for the video and taking one for the team. As I am Chicagoan I really appreciate your exhibition of an engagement.
Damn.. Your the real deal.. thank you for demonstrating if these pistols are worth self defense.
Lol, thanks, did hurt like hell.
That arm shot looked gnarly man good vid definitely wouldn't wanna get hit in the face with one
that was actually helpful. I'm getting one for my disabled father in law---I thought it B.S. but I'm sold on it. thanks for doing the dirty work!!
Your so welcome
wow, now this was truly amazing!! great respect for you for doing this, I've seen some with motorcycle helmets, or thick clothes, most intruders and not gonna be dressed like that, out of respect for you he still had 4 more rounds, I purchased the same handgun but mine has 2 pepper ball up front and the rest are aluminum balls, again thanks for taking one for the team ya crazy nut
Very cool, thanks for kindness, yes Sir I agree 👍 in my vids, there's a vid called she get to shoot me for science. Let here unload four riot balls at me. Chech it out.
Thanks again.
That was absolutely awesome, I own the Smith & Wesson and the PPQ .43 and absolutely love them both. Great video guys.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. Hurt like shit! Really put me down, pepper works out of them.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel I hope the answer is no, but have you had to use it in a “real” scenario? Or know anyone that has? I ask because there are so many video online but you have .43 50, .68. I know .68 would be good for pepper balls. I want to use those but i want pain to stop without killing. Any input aside from this video would really be appreciated. God Bless.
A lot better video,especially on the recording compared to the 1st one.Thx for sharing
Thank u, we are new, trying to get better at this.
Thank you for this video GOOD SIR! Hey yall..I got this bad boy with the steel rounds an decided to let the c02 just hangout for 1 week, occasionally taking the mag in/out and to my SURPRISE BOY DID IT PERFORM! This WILL be SOOOO HARMFUL MAYBE DEADLY if hit in head/face within possibly 10 feet. BE SAFE.
I have steel rounds in mine as well. And let's just say, they are definitely skull crackers...
Your sacrifice deserves and earned you a new follower/subscription 😅
Well thank you.
Holy .... that looked painfull.I thought "no way that this can stop anyone" guess i was wrong :D Will consider buying one.
I just bought one and I have been tinkering with the rubber over steel. Not impressed to save my life nah, I am ordering the PVC over steel and the aluminum. I am told it will crack a skull. But Idk I think just the show of it will help in 90% of cases the 10% I may run like a girl.
obviously it hurts . Did you use Rubber only bullets ? I have bought steel Rubber coated bullets in .43 and would guess it hurts even more .
What projectile were you using in the ppq for the video please? Composition and weight?
We were using 43 cal 6.8 grain chock, and Pava Fire Head Pepper balls 7 Grain. Thank you for your comment.
Thank you for your sacrifice
Damn i give you props
Respect
Is it possible to increase or decrease the velocity of this gun? Or it has a fixed FPS? Thanks! I mean its truly powerful and actually much more powerful than I thought!
YES YOU HAVE TO GO INSIDE THE GUN AND THERE IS A VID ON YT
What's the video called
@@thisguys8809 "How to Void Your Warranty"
There is a video of a guy changing the spring inside the magazine to a much lighter spring. This is so that the canister uses more co2 per shot. Some said this improved FPS, some said it did not. I'm going to test it when I get it.
@@JackAgainski Its only 60 days though so what difference does it make
What was the "shot and pepper" load? Alternating aluminum and pepper balls?
The other round was chock.
Jon Renalds of Alternate Arms and self defense has uprated magazines for these. also there are hit to puncture mags.
Thanks
Did u used rubber balls or pvc balls. I do have the pvc balls but I doubt that u guys used those because they r way more painful than those pepper balls
Happy to have subscribed
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks for a great Video. As you have tried it, felt the pain I mean. I have a question.
Do you think that I you loaded the ppq up mit .43cal ball bearings and shot somebody in the head. Would that knock them out? I See and read so many that says it is good for self defence and some says it won't work. So I thought I'd ask you guys, because having tried this you should be able to give an expert advice.
Thanks.
I realy don't see myself as an expert, thanks though lol! With the right spring replasement fpr the steel ball's, and the riot ball's, yes it is efective for self defence. For stopping power only though. thank you for your comment, God bless
You are the real stuf. I know yt will use algoritmes to back it down..but your blood is my blood sir. Many thanks for this video! May God bless you and your family.
Thanks man, and may God continue blessings on you and your family.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel ❤️
Were these pepperballs in this video? Or just regular powder balls?
He got me with three chock and two pepper
Thank you
can you make this pistol more powerful? change the spring?
would i have change the spring to use it on rubber ball?
it uses 12gr co2
@@alessampiyonu
thanks
Yes. It comes with one spring for paintballs and pepperballs so they don't break and a strong spring for rubber balls
@@sammikhan464 can you use 16 grm?
Has anyone here tried the 11mm glass marbles? I hear they can shatter bone?
_ouch!_ i recently heard that there is a power adjuster accessible by removing the slide. can you or viewer confirm?
I do beileve there is. Check out Modern air gun sports, they have a review on it.
good day, advise which balls are best to use for defense, i now have dark devils 0.9g. weighs and ruber bals weighs 0.75g
Pava pepper. .43cal not sure of the grain. I do know that they hurt like hell, and four shots put me down.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel what about steel balls ?
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel could you explain a little more did it hurt your eyes or burn your skin or was the hit itself painful?
@@josephmarsh3418 Yes, the chalk, and pepper hurt. The pepper is very affective.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel thank you for the reply much 👍
I just bought one myself Thanks
Ty for the demonstration I’m a unarmed security guard going to buy one of these
It it great for less than lethal.
Buy the quick piercing magazine, you can hold the CO2, and puncher it when you need it.
great video bro!
Thks, there nothing like yours, but I try.
The Eagle will be spreading it's wings soon. Just waiting for my FX crono to come in. Should be interesting.
Damn… I guess they work!
holy shit man your a real one taking one for the less than lethal team i heard the pepper what were the other rounds and isnt this thing less powerful than the mercury rise tr50 if so damn i wouldnt want to be shot by either and how bad was the pepper
The other rounds were plain chock. Brother the PPQ M2 is no joke, it hurt like hello. I was down a good 10 minutes.
Hello guys, the gun you are using for self defense, how many Jules is deploying?
13 15
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel This gun shoots 5 joules max. Even with a valve drill mod and suppression of blowback from what I saw in another vid. I will still try on mine but i don't expect more than 6-7 joules max
GREAT INFO JUST WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW
Thank you for sharing! Entertaining video... Your brother-in-law really enjoyed it and was having fun. No one can wipe off that smile.
However, if you have a pistol in your hand, would you run toward the other person to attack?... It is the same as your brother-in-law running toward you to defend
A more realistic scenario was you with a knife in hand running towards him......
In a real attack mode, you would have charged the other person no matter what (not turn around)... especially that close...
Air pistols and pepper balls have their space and time for use. It is the only protection I carry on me... If someone else has a gun or anything that looks like a gun I would first look for shelter and then fight back. If no shelter is available fight back is the only option...
Thanks for your comment
This is a fu@king awesome test brother! 😂
Sending greetings from the UK 👍
Thank you, and welcome.
Any ideas where to get .43 pepper balls? Everywhere I know has been out of stock for at least 8 weeks.
Ebay
Amazon
Those are some nasty wounds from a 5 joule paintball gun. I can only imagine how much the 11-20 joule .50 cal version (Umarex HDP) would feel. Very glad he didn't hit you in the face, that would not have been nice.
It did hurt a bit, the chock stung like hell, but it was the pepper, won't say the real name of them that took me down. I'm not a real big guy, but those rounds are definitely home defence capable.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel can we have a link to these rounds
I live in Europe (the Czech Republic) and own the 11 joule version. Even firing it terrifies me. The first couple of shots make a pretty loud bang, and the rubber/steel composite balls can penetrate a baked bean can, leaving a gaping hole. I wouldn't like to be on the end of one of those if I were wearing just a T-shirt; though I think they would be ineffective against a thick winter coat. But, then, you can always aim for the face (ouch) or use pepper balls. Nasty stuff.
what about the umarex HDX 68 a .68 cal 40 joule shotgun. i dont think you will have agreat time after being hit from one of those balls 😛
Lol...great video...I enjoy shooting flies and bees in the barn with mines...very fun
Thanks, I'll tell you, those chock balls hurt way worse then the pepper. It's the pepper balls that will but a man down.
Thanks for doing that for all of us.
Tell me is it not good to leave the co2 in the magazine if u don’t use it once it’s pierced u have to use it or lose it? Or it can dry out the seal true or false?
Where do you get pepper balls for a 43 caliber
Amazon
Holy shit that looks really painful!!
I had one and loved it! I bought solid steel 5gram riot balls for mine, but it was stolen from me after my ex set me up and got me jumped etc...luckily I'm getting my LTC in the next month anyway so 💁
Sounds like it wasn't very useful for self defense then. What happened?
Wow you got hit hard🔫
Ouch have you tried the 2 gram riotballs? Would be interesting to see what they do at that range lol
The gun came with the blue rubber balls, not sure what grain they are. Can tell you though, the chock and pepper hurt like hell. The shot to my arm is still healing.
Bryan Childers I think the blue ones are 20.8 grains, the riotballs are about 30.8 grains made from solid pvc with a bearing in the middle, you are crazy mate fair play to you it’s definitely not something you do again in a hurry 😂😂
www.riotballs.com/products/100-x-less-lethal-43-cal-2-0-grams-pvc-w-metal-ball-rb-u2g
Don't think he is interested in getting shot again lol 😂
what rounds did he shoot
.34 cal Chock, and Pepper Pava rounds
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Thank you, and welcome!
Hi my name is Johnny Knoxville and this is the pepper ball!
Pepper, and chock
Please wear eye gear next time
Is that 43 cal 🔫
I own one and carry it appendix every day with extra mag and always everyday wonder if it will actually do the trick to stop a would be attacker is this real ?? Or are you exaggerating ..and how do I make my ppq more powerful is there a way to open the air port for more fps
There is!
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel how ?
@@thisguys8809 By changing the pin and spring in the valve.
Also lubing the barrel helps.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel will just shortening the spring work?
Try first and second with a decent pepper ball - then the 4.3 aluminium balls - and would be happy to oblige you mate !!!!
I'd be happy to be obliged
Please tell me you're not doing this reading glasses
Just bought one and got it pretty quick. Might make a video of my wife shooting me while wearing a shirt, hoodie and vest
Just don't forget the eye protection. Have fun! Booooooya
Pussy do it with just a shirt
I just ordered the glock variant.
I’m looking for pepper balls though, any links?
@@noahmc7804 just look up pepper ball on Amazon
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Next time where bigger safety glasses. Don't want you or anyone else losing a eye!!
You are right,lol. We told each other the same thing. The chalk, and pepper balls are very effective out of the Walther PPQ.
BBs are dangerous bullets. Be careful.
Excellent very real video. Your friend shot you in the body. If you were shot in the head, face, balls, knees, most assuredly you would have gone down even faster. You have the toughness most wannabes don’t. And you showed how even an armed attacker could be taken down with riot balls. Excellent work!!!!
Thanks 😊
Let’s all be honest owners here, these guns will absolutely NOT STOP A MOTIVATED ATTACKER…
These can be used to create distance and a few precious seconds to escape and evade or turn the table on an unarmed attacker but you have better have a blade or steel collapsible baton or something similar…
Agreed
So what would be better this ppq with a better pin , spring and aluminum rounds .34
1.9grams OR m26 taser ??? To stop someone I’m a security guard
@@CaRlOSRoShI Thanks for Watching, I personally would use the Taser, and the ppq for security work. LOL, but if I had to choose one, I would go with the taser.
@@CaRlOSRoShI buy the Umarex TR50, 11 joules version. Also buy devastator 50 cal rounds. It can definitely stop an attacker.
@@mrmax1067 ty brotha
Would those Aluminum rounds work
Not sher. Would lower the FPS due to the wait.
The more the round/ball weighs the closer you will have to be at the target do to velocity drop
@@germanwarrior6463 1.9 grams each
.43 caliber should I Modify anything on my Walter ppq whn using soild aluminum rounds balls and will thy do more damage
I’m a private security been battling homeless drug addicts lately
@@CaRlOSRoShI Thank you for what you do, Do you own and pepper ball gun? They are effective.
wow this is pure rn stuff, I though he was going to loose his eye.. Maybe on the next video.. Cringing
I know you probably don't want to do this again, but what hurts more:
1.) rubber balls
2.) rubber/steel balls
3.) nylon balls
4.) Pepper balls
?
Truth be told, the chock, and pepper hurt way more than the rubber. Thanks for asking.
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel The chock? I have one and Wll it save my life? PVC over steel? this is serious. Im not teasing I am security in church . Cant carry real...
What is the chock? Shock?
@@ourranchairgunfunchannel are you saying chalk? I don't get what the chock balls are?
Btw I fired the rubber balls at a thin plastic bottle of water snd it didn't bust. But those are the only rounds I've fired so far.
look me how steelballs work
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America! FUCK YEAH^^
If you had an edged weapon, you could have gutted him despite taking some painful hits- but if an assailant has a pistol as well, why would they charge? I appreciate you taking the hits for science, but I've seen motivated people take multiple rounds from real guns and keep on coming.
How many J ?
I cronographed it at 650 fpe
How did you get 650 fps out of it
650fps 🤔 nah
Kevin just trynna keep him off her sister
Thank you for joining in, did you sub to the channel, must be subbed to win. good luck!
Thats a .43 ppq t4e. What ball? Pepper balls aren’t worth it my opinion. Unless your .50 or .68 cal
This video is hilarious
Pistle haha
Great gun! Would like to have it in Russia
А что в России нету такого калибра?
This gun packs a punch! It can kill if you shot at the right spot on a human. I've been shot from 40ft away and it took me to the ground crying and I'm 6 ft 5. Perfect for home defense
Yuppers, agreed 👍. Thanks for your comment.
jeez what balls were this?
Chock and pepper
Co2 replicas do not stop those with intent or under the influence of drugs or alcohol. There is a reason for non leathal 'training for engagement', it's training for the use of lethal force. Please do not confuse the two, it will get people hurt. Please also do not randomly flag just about everything in your environment while chatting to camera, it shows incredibly poor SP and discipline.
Be safe and enjoy, but don't play a games in real life...please.
Agreed, except it is the .43 cal that doesn't stop agressors, not any co2 guns. All these .43 should not be used in a self defense context. For that purpose you should use .68 cal with a Tiberius t8.1, or a tippman Tipx, or a Umarex HDX for example. I woudn't consider using anything under 15 joules for self defense. My T9.1 can go up to 40j, but that becomes somewhat less "less lethal" at that power
@@bipbipbip5599 No air/co2 pistol is appropriate for self defence. I have seen individuals maintain a threat with multiple 9mm pistol rounds in them (talon) and 9mm ball through n though.
DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH HALF MEASURES PLEASE!
@@Guide504 I mean, if you CAN have a firearm, sure, but if not, a good paintball marker can je a good tool for that purpose, combined with pepper spray