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- Whiplash vs Monsoon full fight!
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Shock Damage! Whiplash vs Monsoon | Battlebots | Discovery
• Shock Damage! Whiplash... - บันเทิง
The REAL Fight of the Week right here! 🔥🔥🔥
2nd best main event so far, very close decision too. Funny how when monsoon appealed, it changed from split to unanimous for whiplash, totally backfired
Although don't really understand that as pretty sure it became unanimous because one judge ended up changing control to 3-0 for Whiplash which is like unheard of. Believe Monsoon easily deserves 1 control point as not like they were completely out of control. I mean even Shatter got 1 control point from all judges despite flopping around most of the fight by firing the hammer nowhere near Horizon. Like almost never do we see any team sweep control or aggression no matter how lopsided it is and this was far from being a lopsided fight in any area. Think Whiplash deserved the win hands down just not 3 control points. Can understand why Monsoon did it though as chances are their fight with Deathroll is going 3 minutes so really no need to hold onto it.
@@wisewolftony I rewatched the fight and before whiplash lost one side drive, I saw NO control from monsoon whatsoever. Even when whiplash lost drive, monsoon couldn't capitalize on it. Beta vs rotator seemed to be the only 3-0 control fight since it was beta 100% pushing rotator, but I can kinda see why this one was 3-0 even tho it didn't felt like it at all. Plus monsoon ran into the killsaws a few times, and you lose control points for it. You don't just gain one point for simply having one time or second of control, it's comparative. So 90/10 control could be 3-0, not 2-1. Monsoon never tried to flank whiplash or attack his weak points at all either, that probably didn't help
@@jonathanf2392 rotator was able to briefly get under beta at some parts
@@studious_yt97 exactly, beta still got 3-0 control. You don't just get 1 control point just because of one moment you get underneath your opponent
@@jonathanf2392 you wouldn’t give 3-0 control to whiplash in whiplash vs black dragon? (Champions) black dragon didn’t get under them a single time and was lifted a lot
This is what should have been battle of the week last episode. Such a good fight
Yep...instead of the unnecessary Riptide carnage. I understand how folks like damage, but not simply for the sake of showing off their weapon on an already-disabled robot. Riptide didn't deserve any kind of recognition for that...other than condemnation!
Dude said "Beautiful Las Vegas" lmao has he been outside?
honestly? whiplash has never been the best bot, while I don't usually like repeating taglines the thing that has made whiplash good really has always been Matt's driving: he's just that tiny bit faster to reassess to regain control to respond and to come up with a plan and he's one of the most natural people there when it comes to intuitively working out how things are going to interact between the bots. being able to know what is going to happen as a result of your actions is obviously important for both information flow and for what actions you can take and being that _little_ bit faster to get back to doing what you want to be doing is incredibly important in _any_ competition with mutual interference let alone something like a bot fight where almost every interaction changes how everything works, Biteforce being designed specifically for this was what made Biteforce so utterly terrifying to go up against and being good at it is what makes all of the best bots and/or teams in the field the best bots and/or teams in the field. it sounds dumb and videogamey but all of this together _actually does_ mean that with Matt driving Whiplash the bot is functionally faster more likely to win groundgame a touch more resistant to damage and just generally a tiny bit better in almost every way.
whiplash isn't getting worse, the other drivers are just finally getting more competent in general, he's still _absurdly_ good at this but the margin of advantage that affords is narrowing.
Whiplash is also getting used to a total revamp, we know bots are usually at their weakest after they do a revamp (example: Bite Force getting beaten by Chomp of all bots after they fully revamped)
@@Dubstepper yeah, you right.
bad example though: that judges decision was quite literally the result of the judges repeatedly assuming that chomp hitting the floor was chomp hitting biteforce...or at least that's what they claimed. there really did always seem to be a lot of truth to the rumors that chomp got handed most of it's judges decisions regardless of what happened in the match: it's a _great_ way to vilify a team especially when they are represented as so fake and toxic, real shame too since how they actually acted towards other people was usually a lot closer to that time they stayed up all night to make Witch Doctor's replacement weapons than all those times the show made it look like someone was sleeping with the producers or fixing bets or whatever the heck other reason you (the audience) can come up with to justify things.
Good fight that could've went either way
I love how the TH-cam "Most rewatched" heat map tells you exactly where to fast-forward to :)
Oh you like AI huh? Wait till it deletes your lover
How come there is no new episode on the discovery app this week???
March madness
there will not be an episode this week or next, toavoid competing for TV viewers with march madness (culturally signifigant amerian college basketball tournament)
i watch these as much for Faroque as I do for the bots.
This was an AMAZING match 5/5
I'm glad that the dude with the mohawk is back on Team Monsoon.
MONSOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
Thanks discovery!
Great fight
This should be an instant do-over. I don't even know or care who got designated winner, it just wasn't decided in any way.
Secundo, Whiplash "preserving" the spinner for the last half a minute warrant a big loss on aggression points.
Is this the new episodes because I want thoes
monsoon got robbed. monsoon is one of the most unique designs i've seen, but its biggest vulnerability is the angled sides. they need to mount forks on both sides, so instead of deflecting the enemy bot, it would pull it straight into the spinner.
similar to what sawblaze has, but they'd need forks that would work both ways. if it gets flipped, then forks would be same.
hard to explain, but i have perfect design done in my head already. with this design enemies wouldn't be able to push it around so easily. monsoon only has very small angle where it can hit
I just realized, either way, tantrum or whiplash is going one and threee
It's hard to win when one side has the reputation. Although Monsoon seemed to have won that one, they would have to have done significantly better than their (more well known) opponent in order to win. Fair? No, but it seem to be the BattleBot way.
I don't know, they scored plenty of damage points, but did nothing to control and were not aggressive through the whole match. You can't win on any one bracket alone, the sad thing is damage is still worth more than either of the other two. If they wanted to win on damage alone, they needed a knockout, if that failed, which it did, they need to at least score some other points. Their weapon performed great, too bad they didn't go on the attack with it, then they would have got some aggression points, or maybe pinned the opponent, and got some control points, but they didn't. So they lost.
The match was scored as by the judges (I'd imagine knowing how the rules work and how they score fights) monsoon won damage 2-1 whiplash won functionality 2-1 and whiplash won control 2-1 if not 3-0? Monsoon Controlled 0% of this fight and didn't manage a single side shot or shot of the back of whiplash and whiplash pushed it around and had it using its own weapon to drive itself into the air? Loosing more points on functionality?
Go watch some of the fan videos made on battlebots, you'll understand the rules a bit better and won't say stuff like "it's the battlebots way"
The copperhead, riptide judges decision is a great place to start
Ladies & gentlemen the 3 judges at arenaside have turned in a 25-20 decision for the red square, WHIPLASH!
Well, they got that one wrong.
It's not the first time at all. Loads of bad calls the past 2 years. Really bad calls...
monsoon won. Other than that one pulverizer shot all whiplash did was drive forward and eat shots.
I thought so too. Especially because whiplash’s main weapon stop functioning mid way.
Honestly I thought whiplash deserved the win. Monsoon definitely wins the damage category but control definitely goes to whiplash and I think whiplash was also the more aggressive robot because it just went at monsoon for the entire fight. Just my thoughts
@@ZeroS115 whiplash’s main weapon is the lifter not the spinner.
and yet between the two bots whiplash was the one with more remaining functonality, you really do need to watch things a lot more clo...actually that's really not the problem here is it?
if you're gonna spout an opinion about a thing then you need to actually give the thing some thought before spouting the opinion. you do NOT need to be an expert or even do a good amateur job but you DO need to observe, think it over, and actually form an information model to base that opinion on.
to be fair I honestly expected the judges decision to go to Monsoon: it would be a _wrong_ decision but it's what I expected after watching the fight because while monsoon was more damaged (as in Monsoon had a significantly greater loss in functionality) and had done a terrible job of controlling or even being actively involved in the fight the damage that Whiplash had taken was far more *visible* than the damage that Monsoon had taken and they care a great deal about the degree of visibility of damage regardless of anything the rules say.
They outscored them, you saw it. Do you not understand how they score matches?
Two bots enter one bot leaves. Thems the rules
Good bout, but my main impression is that after all these years, and the arena hazards are still random trash. They've gotta just get rid of the Pulverizer and saws, because they're just incredibly unfair, and apparently they can't be made to function consistently.
what about the holes in the ground, in season 1 spikes would come out.
Im.not sure what you mean by "unfair". Not arguing just curious what you meant. The hazards don't do a lot of damage, but that's so random chance doesn't frag you, the opponent has to work for a knock out, not just get lucky the other bot got land mined. They're there for control bots to score points, it demonstrates control.
in one episode, Minotaur managed to break a pulverizer, and it was hollow.
It has no weight at all, it probably just tickles, even the most fragile robot.
This match was alright. I would of chose the Horizon vs Shatter fight instead. That or the rematch between Minotaur vs End Game from World Championship 6. That match was pure hype! 😁
You mean Minotaur vs Witch Doctor. That's happening again
What are you talking about? Horizon Vs shatter was not better
Your opinion tho
I love how that guy was just holding his... partner... that whole time :D
🙂👍🏻
Please stop saying that a disk spins at 225 MPH. At which point are you measuring that? Its spins XX amount of RPMs
It's the tip speed: RPM * 60 * distance from center of axle to tip tooth * 2 * pi = speed.
This is because Battlebots has a tip speed limit and RPM doesn't say much without knowing the diameter of the weapon.
For example Minotaurs drum spins at maximum ~10000RPM while Witch Doctors weapon spins at around 5000RPM, but both have a tip speed of 250 mph because Minotaurs drum is smaller than Witch Doctors disc.
I disagree. If your weapon works use it. If you weapon is down for a significant portion of the fight then that goes against you.
It's ranked by damage at the end, if it works at the end, it works. They are inspecting survivors at the end for judge calls.
@@sinisterthoughts2896if you shut your weapon down then you can’t do any damage with it that can be judged at the end. LikeI said it goes against you.
Never question the judges decision!
Just some bad driving around. Thanks for all the sparks, love Battlebots fans
Wonder if the self aware AI would be interested in these shows? Send IT a link. :)
I couldn't help but notice the guy in the guy holding the girl in the corner...cringe. 😬 reminds me of my first girlfriend, in like fifth grade.
Dude, it's just people being affectionate. That's on you if it weirds you out to see people who are not afraid of what others think of their love. If an embrace puts you off, you might do some thinking on that.
I understand him perfectly. I also wouldn't let go of her if I were him.
That guy holding on to his girlfriend during the fight was just creepy AF.
@@matty2na It's not PDA though. It looked more like kidnapping...lol...
Think: Security blanket.
I remember my first girlfriend....it's like junior high level behavior. I thought it was cringe too
@@necrede hahaha.... Probably a true assumption!
That's his sister, they're a bit different over there.
How did Whiplash win again???
By outgrowing them, and being more aggressive. Damage alone does not win, unless it's a knockout. They outperformed them with skill. To be fair, monsoon didn't really pull any maneuvers, establish control or pin whiplash, and the weren't very aggressive. They just slowed turned and waited for whiplash to attack, that's the opposite of aggression, which they know they are scored on.
Whiplash did great, was in full control. Fair decision by the Judges. Monsoon fans seething
Lmfao, close my arse, Whiplash did nothing but push Monsoon around because it has more HP. Monsoon did far more damage to whiplash. Just because Monsoon was "flipped" shouldn't count as taking a hit, it's literally part of the design for monsoon. What can you do, BB is a scripted AF show. Don't believe me, if you ever get the opportunity, ask any contestant.
There’s more than 1 category in judging
That guy needs to stop hugging his gf in the battlebox, I'm sure he's a good guy but he looks so needy doing that
LOL..That was my very first thought. Glad someone else noticed.
You guys sound insecure. Yoi ever think she might like it? Seriously, you are completely overlooking her thoughts in the matter and just assuming. Which is even creepier when you think about you guys are focusing on a guys hugs and intersecting yourselves in the matter and ignoring the girl... maybe talk to your therapists about it. Seriously though, you might consider therapy if seeing affection causes you discomfort.
bro... monsoon totally deserved that win
By not driving around, getting herded like livestock, and failing to get a knockout? Because that's how you lose a decision. Either knock'em out, or out score them, and they failed at both.
is cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Let the girl go....jeeeeez. Stand on your own two feet.
Stay out of other people's relationships weirdo. Nobody wants to hear you projecting your insecurities about affection.
All right I don't agree with that
Judges are shite now. Very biased in some respects.
Very close fight. Maybe wrong decision but the judges are the final decision.
Is this Bot Fighting Sport illegal?
Nope!
Of course it's legal!
No. Hamster fighting is illegal. Bot fighting is legal.
Bro? Illegal??? lmao if it were kinda hard to hide a place like this all covered in lights and sounds not to mention being broadcasted on live TV, like this would have been shut down so long ago if it were illegal which it is obviously not
Why would it be? And if it were do you think it would be a TV show and all over TH-cam?
That guy is so annoying… we don’t care you have a gf. Let her go. Makes me so uncomfortable
So you get uncomfortable seeing people being comfortable with eachother? You get uncomfortable witnessing affection? Seriously, that is kind of sad. I hope you find a relationship where you can feel confident expressing your affection in public, and not be insecure about it. I mean it, it's a wonderful feeling I hope everyone can find.
@@sinisterthoughts2896 For starters… SHE didn’t look that comfortable to me, in fact she sorta looked slightly uncomfortable. Second, PDA in general should be kept at the minimum, your sharing a space with other people… so act like it and be respectful of them and their space. Third, I’d argue it’s shows the opposite of “confidence” if you feel the need to things like he is. What it is he’s doing is he’s holding on to her as if she’s a piece of property, as if to claim “This is mine!”. Makes it seem like he’s scared she’ll walk off somewhere on her own or scared of random guys approaching her, it makes him seems insecure. (It looks as if he feels the need to constantly be letting everyone know “Hey, this right here is my gf!, We’re dating!“). Basically, there’s a big difference between showing you S/O an appropriate amount of affection while out in public vs whatever tf he’s doing… one is completely fine and the other comes off extremely possessive & creepy.
(Now let it be known, I know absolutely nothing a bit those 2 or their relationship… I’m simply describing the vibe I got from seeing them a couple times in a few different of these videos. I can get a vibe from said clips but it’s important not to jump to conclusions based seeing no more than a minute of them together.)
Thats his sister
oh my god go back to 4chan man
Meh battle..
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Did you watch the fight…?
same ol favoritism
You mean outscoring a well designed but poorly driven bot.
Worst judges ever
wdym?
yes they are blind monsoon is a BEAST
It's pretty clear that monsoon won this he took no damage and whiplash lost its main weapon for most of the fight the dive on the left side
@@heath6499 I think what really pushed the judges to make that call was whiplash controlling the fight for the majority of the time and that first big hit/push at the very beginning was what gave whiplash the edge it needed to win in the judges desicion
@@rumple54a beast that didn't score any points besides damagen which alone does not win a score card.
OMG, I didnt know the U.S. Govt. had control of the scorecard.... Taking that into account, WooHoo! Whiplash wins.... ugh...
tf you talking about
@@anenglishchap1499 he’s saying that it’s rigged for the us teams. In doing so promptly ignoring that endgame had several close decisions on their way to win the championship
The government had nothing to do with this
@@davemacharoni3730dude, monsoon sucked at aggression and did no control. They got outscored pure and simple. I have no love for whiplash, but that was obvious. It was a good match, and close, but whiplash simply outscored them.damage alone is not enough for a decision, control and aggression are also scorable factors, and monsoon drove like a lame duck and wasn't aggressive.
Dude, this ain't that crappy Chinese version.
useless, neither had a useful weapon.
I’d say monsoon did good damage. It disabled one side drive, and opened whiplash like a can of tuna. It just sliced instead of throwing.
@@davemacharoni3730 shush dave, don't feed the trolls
Jesus Christ when are they gonna get rid of Faruq. His bits are so hard to watch.
Some people love it. It's hit orissa for me. It also serves the purpose for time filler so they can fill the time bracket. Matches go quick, have him drag it out. Matches go fast, he gets to the point. Elegant solution really.