I've been wanting to build a small home server for Jellyfin for a while now. Glad to see other people are into is as much as I am! Great work from the Open Source community!
Jellyfin is such an impressive project. especially because the emby dude was kind of a dick and taunted the free software community with "oh you have no idea how much work it is" and then fucking blew his project away. Because turns out 10 people doing something together in the open is better than one guy doing something alone in secret
@@Turbojugend27 the only reason I don’t use emby is the restriction of clients not users . I can’t control who signs in and I can’t see what devices or have that control.
Haha is that what happened to Emby? The dude pissed off a bunch of devs on Reddit and they decided to eat his lunch? xD People never learn from the lessons in history. Never taunt and goad smart, determined people into a d!ck measuring contest lol
Thanks for pointing this out to me. Been using plex for a while and was unhappy about how inflexible it is. With Jellyfish is much easier to build my library how I want it rather than how the software wants it. Most importantly, I can keep my original folder structure and names and still have the software treat the data properly and correctly without having to do everything by hand.
Yea, I was looking through some old files, and found things like "plex theme" from the days when plex belonged to the user (buyer), and you could modify it's appearance amongst other customizations. All in all, Plex was there when nothing else was, so I'm happy to be using it for these past 10 years. It's inevitable for things to come along and take a fresh approach to a solution, so onward the journey continues.
As a hardcore user of Plex, Jellyfin will more than likely be the longterm media server that I use if and when plex ever goes down the drain and goes all in on free tv/movie streaming and abandons their roots. But until then I'll keep riding the plex train until the wheels fall off.
Yeah, What kills it for me is the offline viewing, loose internet, it'll work for a day or 2 then its nope can't view your own content! The whole point of me setting up a media server is to have something to watch when the net goes down, and it happens often, country life ya know, So I do have Jellyfin running in a VM on my TrueNAS server just for that reason alone, If Jellyfin gets better or even if they introduce a pay model, I'd have no issues ditching Plex, the way Plex sets things up is a reason I wont support them, its like paying for a giant ad, since ya know it wont default to displaying what you have hosted, just further confuses some people.
I love Jellyfin. I've been using it for a couple years now in a Proxmox container. There are plenty of tutorials for setting up GPU passthrough to the Jellyfin container which honestly is the hardest part of the entire setup. Of course if you're not using virtualization, hardware acceleration practically works out of the box. Same for Intel's iGPU stuff. My only gripe with JF is that I wish their IPTV stuff worked a little better. There is no way to dedupe or manage iptv lists, you have to use something like xTeVe or TVHeadend to get that to work (or use a third party IPTV list editor). There also doesn't appear to be a buffer, so the streams are susceptible to jitter, drops, and freezes. xTeVe, which hasn't been updated in a couple years, helps a lot in this arena, but it also has its problems. But all-in-all, JF is the best media server out there, imo.
I too used plex for years. Understood every aspect of the application, even down to the structure of the database. I started using jellyfin because of a pay wall issue and also plugins. I love jellyfin. I love it so much I'm never going back to Plex. This youtuber nails it.
Interesting - I'm a lifetime Plex Member basically for as long as Plex has lived.... but also think the progress has stagnated and that they are not listening to the community. Going to start checking this out to be honest.
@@PeterKocic It's very much worth it. You can stand up a Jellyfin instance alongside Plex and point it at the same media folders Plex is using, it maintains its own metadata database just like Plex does, so it won't mess up any of Plex's stuff. But IMO, Plex basically doesn't care about the "home media server" aspect anymore, they're solely focused on Plex TV, as they just aren't improving the home streaming aspect that got Plex to be the juggernaut it became. Jellyfin loads media faster, has better playback options, etc. Plex's only real advantage is ubiquity, and certain clients being better. Like... any Smart TV will have Plex on it but not necessarily Jellyfin, but if you use a dedicated streaming device like Shield Pro, AppleTV+, FireStick, Rokku, etc, that doesn't matter as Jellyfin is on all of them. But the Plex apps for iOS and Android seem to have better codec support than the Jellyfin ones, although for Jellyfin Infuse on iOS is great (even if it costs like $100 for a lifetime license... I don't have an AppleTV or I might buy it, as I don't like watching stuff from my phone or tablet anyway). But on a device that has full codec support like the Nvidia Shield Pro and with proper settings (e.g., the Jellyfin app on Android TV defaults to using an inferior player, so change it to libvlc which will Direct Play basically anything), Jellyfin runs circles around Plex IMO.
I dont really like the UI of Jellyfin. Plex is more refined (granted they have more time to refine it). I'm sure jellyfin works fine for you and others, but it's not for me, at least not yet.
@@praetorxyn Plex's UI is customisable. But i guess it depends what you mean by customisable. For example with plex, you can change what appears on the home screen, i,e which library's appear and in which order you prefer. You can also add various suggestions of varying types and categories. So i would disagree with the statement that Plex isn't customisable at all. Also I dont know how often you last used Plex, but it is far from archaic. It is very modern and has a lot of great new UI tools
I actually feel the exact opposite, interestingly enough. I recently switched from plex to jellyfin, and IMO plex’s interface is way too cluttered, and Jellyfin is simple and just plain works without all the unnecessary crap all around the UI
@@ArizonaJewell agree plex is clustered after initial install, but it is super super easy to just remove the extra rubbish from your home screen and side bar. Mine only shows my actual content and I don't even see the plex owned stuff and the UI is clean and modern, the Jellyfin UI doesn't look modern
@dskoul "Dude", it literally compares Jellyfin to Plex in the video title and the video itself starts with Logan talking about Plex in case you haven't even noticed. lol
I use Jellyfin for educational projects such as books, audiobooks and documentaries I share with my group. I have plex just for movies, music and photos. I love both.
After spending a day with Jellyfin, its going to be a no from me. Plex does collections wayyyy better and as someone with a massive media library, that's of utmost importance to me. Collections aren't just for grouping together a cinematic universe, but Jellyfin seems to be under that impression. Weirdly inflexible. Kodi+Emby just feels like Plex 10 years ago with far fewer security features.
Library scans take such a long time in Jellyfin, many times longer than Plex. I like open source SW, but when it is so far behind, I will not sacrifice the ease of use.
Thanks for the demo and info. I have setup both plex and jellyfin on a vm with a graphics card. Not sure which one I prefer but at least both options are there. Have a great day
Wrongly identified movies/shows can be avoided by naming movie/show files correctly. For example the Wicked City file should have been named "Wicked City (1987).mp4". This will then properly identify the movie. This is an issue with Doctor Who shows. anything pre-2005 can be in a folder named Doctor Who, then Series 01, Series 02, etc. But for 2005 and beyond, you need to put those in a folder named "Doctor Who (2005), then each season in it's own season folder named Season 01, Season 02, etc. I use Jellyfin with this naming structure and have no issues. I also use Emby, and use the same naming structure for that as well. Both servers softwares have extensive articles on their forums that explain how folder/file naming works.
Good timing. I just got a seedbox set up and now it's the perfect place to host a jellyfin server so that I can watch my movies and shows without filling the hard drives on my devices. I was able to get it set up and watched the new Rick and Morty episode streamed from my seedbox to my Roku. Cool stuff 👍
Just a tip for mismatching. Use sonarr for media management in series folder format till be {Series TitleTheYear} [tvdb-{TvdbId}] episode format {Series Title} - S{season:00}E{episode:00} - {absolute:000} - [{Quality Title} {MediaInfo VideoCodec}] [{MediaInfo AudioCodec}{MediaInfo AudioChannels}] - [{Release.Group}]
I do the bottom one for Films but TV Shows tend to be Basic. TV Show\TV Show - S01E01.mkv Films tend to be Movie 2000\Movie - 1080P - 7.1 Atmos - 2000.mkv
I'm not convinced. I'm a long-time Plex user. My setup is my media is on a NAS and Plex is on a small dedicated used Linux box. Media is served un-transcoded to everything in the house as they are all able to digest it natively. For the few times I serve outside the home my server hardware does include the appropriate CPU to do light transcoding. Some of the actions you were doing in the Jellyfin are trivial in Plex like changing the artwork or fixing a match. A couple of clicks and you're done. My biggest gripe is I have to manually upgrade the version of Plex. It's not easy or automated. But it's only 5 minutes or so. I'm already invested in a lifetime membership in Plex, but I'm sure a free version of a solid media platform is good for a lot of people. Thanks for the video.
Use Docker... I have a cron job that updates Plex every day, but I've recently spun up a Jellyfin instance and haven't looked at Plex since other than to compare it. Jellyfin runs circles around it IMO, and I've been a lifetime Plex pass user for years. Plex just doesn't care about the whole "home media server" thing anymore, only about Plex TV.
With files becoming so much larger over the years, Im finally building a NAS. Im sick of my stuff being across different external drives and having to buy another drive to shove into my tower. Im just waiting until the rest of the parts to come in. Im guessing 44TB is going to cover me with Unraid. I have been looking at media server applications too since the tech has grown quite a bit since I was playing around with kodi 10 yrs ago. I am probably going to do the Jellyfin route since Im not interested in paying a subscription to watch MY own media. I have zero issues with donating or buying a reasonably priced lifetime license (did it with Launchbox and I was happy to do it). Plex has a lifetime option which feels a little to high for me, but the thing that turns me off now is how they treating the paid customers. Jellyfin it is.
If I didn't have a Plex license already I wouldn't buy one now. The only real advantage Plex has over Jellyfin is ubiquity. Basically every smart TV or smart TV device (e.g. Fire Stick, Roku, etc) is going to have a Plex app, but for example my LG C8 from 2019 does not have a Jellyfin app (but apparently the newer ones running webOS 6 do, and the older webOS 5 TVs like mine will have a Jellyfin app eventually, according to a July update). But if you have a client with proper Jellyfin support like the Nvidia Shield Pro, AppleTV+, etc. and you set it up properly, Jellyfin runs circles around Plex IMO. On the storage, it's probably a little late after 5 months, but it depends on how much of it gets cut into for redundancy. I run RAID 10 in my NAS for both redundancy and speed, and thus my 48 TB is cut down to about 22 TB usable, but I'm glad I did it as I had my first ever drive failure a month or two ago and was able to replace the drive and rebuild the storage pool with no data loss because of it.
@@praetorxyn I'm using UnRaid. Thats a JBOD system. As it stands, I'm using 1 disc for parity right now. I'll probably upgrade the system down the line when its outgrown my modded SAMA IM01 case and I'll put together a rack when I get around to wiring my house. Jellyfin support was fine by me since my TV has access to Jellyfin app.
I run both on my TrueNAS Scale instance and I'm very happy with Jellyfin, it feels less bloated than Plex, and also lets you configure transcoding settings with more customization. On the client side, it's not supported on every os (Eg. Tizen doesn't have an official client), but if you use Android it works oob.
2:52 I use Jellyfin myself and I think it's amazing, but I would actually suggest the opposite given this scenario. Jellyfin is best used on a local network, and Plex is better for multiple users. Obviously, if you already have a Plex setup for personal use, there's little reason to change unless you absolutely despise the fact you need to use their auth servers or hate their ads (both of which I can't stand). You did mention that downloading files remotely is locked behind a paywall, so maybe that's another reason to switch, but Plex also has a massive advantage with their centralized auth and multitude of clients. An advantage which I hope will disappear as Jellyfin matures and gains wider adoption.
@Tek Syndicate Yeah, admittedly I don't access it outside my LAN or have any remote users so I can't exactly comment on performance, though I assume it's fine (when your upload isn't 1.5mbps, lol). My comments on the best usecase (local vs. remote) mostly stem from the fact that Jellyfin's native clients vary wildly in development. Anecdotally, I haven't had many issues with Android TV, but the Roku and Firestick apps are missing many features and crash semi-frequently. The plugin for Kodi is more available and reliable, but the responsiveness and feel of the UI varies per device. As I said in my original comment, I hope that the state of Jellyfin's clients continue to improve because it seems to be the biggest obstacle to potential adopters. In the near future I doubt it'll be much of a contest, but for now it's very much decided on a case-by-case basis.
@@lyingriotman2220 I also prefer it for multiple users because they are easily managed from the admin panel... I can have tons of users... and they can access it from wherever... and they can have different perms and different folder access... and their recently played/resume list is unique. It's really handy for that.
I despise what Plex has become, because of money from the studios, and what it's eventually going to become. I didn't even know that they put personal media libraries behind a paywall now. I was recently setting up Plex clients for a few people, and it's just disgusting. A huge list of streaming services that can be integrated into it. Stupidity. It's already on a black box or smart TV that has those apps, so why add Plex as a layer in between? I found with one client that it was impossible to remove the free Plex content from the side menu. What's the point of me giving people access then if they can just watch it there? I despise their attitude, that people who paid for it aren't customers. If I need support for something I've paid for, I'm at the mercy of their attitude. I loathe their attitude towards file naming. It's geared towards the naming conventions of pirated content, but shhh about any of that. Mockingjay parts 1 and 2, gotta put a year behind those file names, or they WILL be joined into 1 entry. There is a timer, so if I want to fall asleep to a show, and have the sound keep me asleep, it's impossible. People have been asking for an option to disable it for years now, and nothing. Their attitude about transcoding and the formats they choose to use is insanity. No, don't stream AC3, when every device out there can actually play it. Randomly bounce around between AAC, MP3, and OPUS. Don't let me choose the audio format to transcode to. If you have interlaced content and can't directly play it, it turns into 30 progressive frames per second (or 25 for PAL). They don't bob de-interlace it to the full field rate. It's only a matter of time before they pull the plug on personal media altogether.
So jellyfin is a fork from emby so its essentially all features from emby at a certain point. When they decided to go close source the team split up. I get why you would want to go for jellyfin because of the privacy part. It’s just that maintaining and developing mobile apps that are good and on so many platforms is alot of work and prob not something a team can work on full time for free. These things cost money and take up time and resources. I know the mobile apps for emby sucked compared to plex for a very long time and only got good relativley recently. They might have been at a good point when they broke off and made jellyfin but eventually over time, i have a hard time beliving jellyfin will be better than emby feature wise and especially the mobile experience. If you dont care about good apps on other platforms but only using it in the web browser and the privacy part than jellyfin is good, + it’s free. If you want the best experience and most features choose emby.
I totally agree, I think he is basically calling it better because it's "Free". I would rather pay folks for their hard work when it works, Emby is easily imo the best we have and is constantly evolving, who knew we needed a simply thing like knowing when what we are watching will finish haha. Emby is doing gods work and it simply works
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2 questions? 1. Do you keep Anime series episodes and related movies in the same folder? 2. I plan on using Docker, can you share the same folders/libraries between different docker containers.
so its been a minute, but I started with Jellyfin on my QNAP nas in a docker container because it's free, and as you said, better looking. That was good enough for me to give it a go. The problem I had, at least at that time, was the Android tv client was not the greatest and I had issues with playback where it would start tv episodes in the middle and I couldn't rewind or something, I can't remember exactly the issue, but I do remember that the client was ugly and unrefined compared to Plex, so i switched over. No hate for Jellyfin, it wasn't quite ready for my use case at the time. Eventually I'll probably try it again, but I've gotten pretty accustom to the nice features a plex pass offers.
@@stafvh5783 you definitely did. Docker containers don't cost anything. Maybe your looking at a qpkg. Open a terminal and run a docker pull on the image.
I got a lifetime membership to Plex very early on and never used anything else but I'm considering trying Jellyfin out as it looks like a solid alternative
It definitely is a solid alternative even with its issues, But its also free so ya know, they do take their time to fix things as well, it super easy to have people setup on their TV's, but if they forget their login, you will have to reset their password, and Jellyfin works offline all the time, Plex don't unfortunately. Plex does transcode better/faster as well with less resources. I had to give Jellyfin a break, I was using it for about a year but its sorta buggy and needs rebooted often, so I use Jellyfin as a backup and for offline viewing since my internet isn't the most reliable thing. Plex just works for me, although its also annoying in different ways.
Thanks for this. I've been using Plex since the very early days. I love Plex, but I'm really like Jellyfin too. I like the interface and setup was a breeze. I'll probably run bot Plex and Jellfin.
I'm guessing jellyfin has come a long way since I last tried it but it's just not as widely adopted on the vast range of devices that my family members use like smart TVs and such, when I tried it a while back it had inferior playback but that was a while back. The UI I dunno it's so dated in regards to their apps and after dealing with emby for a while I'm sick of this UI personally. Still a great free option tho and is probably giving emby and run for their money in cases.
I have been just playing media files through vlc over a local network but windows default transfer protocols are getting worse with each update to the point where even increasing the buffer within vlc still led to stutter (jumbo frames enabled on the hardware side and all that jazz) and a fairly fat (bandwith) & fast local network. Gave this a try after your lastest video on it and its been great, no noticable loss of quality video wise. It will take a while to get it running how i like it, and it does wierd things like episodes of Father Ted (british/irish commedy) is named and displayed as an anime with a completely different name, something to problem solve anyway which is good for getting to know the software... Anyway rambling aside just wanted to say thanks for putting me onto this as i hate using paid for and closed software like plex, cheers dude!
I'm really new to this been wanting to set up a plex media player on an older computer of mine (8700k/gtx1080) and after seeing this I think I'll switch to jellyfin now as I really like this layout and especially how easy you did it!
@@3STYLER hahaha your right it's still fairly capable even though I've upgraded them now, but they are both kind of special to me. The 8700k is the first CPU I've delidded with LM and the 1080 was my first GPU when I got into pc gaming.
I had jellyfin setup on a Phenom II x3 B75, I had a GTX 1070 in it so if it needed to transcode, the 1070 took that load, worked well, Free version of Plex wouldn't work well on it if it needed to transcode, not enough CPU lol.
Kodi chokes hardware , Plex can't play H265 or large 4K files even on the local network. Jellyfin is good but quite buggy. The best option is Emby. None of the other systems have the "virtual stretch" feature on like Emby does. Emby can do a "vertical stretch" on video files of any resolution.
- Sling media into my eyeballs, lol. My story was pretty much the same with plex bur gradually went over to emby. I have a hard time beliving jeklyfin would be better than emby, it sounds a little vit like you never really tried emby.
You conviced me and few months later i say thank you. I only have Jellyfin for my Anime collection bc it looks gorgeous compared to Plex dimming artwork and a simple image and description. I don't need regular movies to look awesome before i play them but anime is art before playing it. Should be nice if in the future it will support manga content from digital media like .epub, .pdf, etc and it scrolls pages like an slideshow. You know what? every manga i have i made slideshows and now those manga are videos in my library, yes i prefer to read manga with japanese bgm.
I don't use smart TVs, I connect all mine to computers... but they have fireTV, android TV, Roku, AppleTV, MrMC, and Samsung is coming soon. I have no idea what most of that means, lol.
It's coming to LG WebOS and Samsung + Sony and Philips use Android TV soon to be GoogleTV so it's already there and Toshiba and Panasonic mostly use FireTV now so what TV is it that jellyfin is not coming too.
@@teksyndicate I started out with Jellyfin a year ago, as much as I want to like it, I don't. There are a few major thing that pushed me to plex. 1. Much Better transcode, 4k transcode is a none issue now, anyone realized that? I tried transcoding 4k to 320p, without a hitch, no color shifting no nothing, it just works. 2. Subtitle sync issue, a lot of subtitles require transcoding. With Jellyfin, for some video, the subtitle is always out of sync. Subtitle sync is very very important if you consume content from various countries. With Jellyfin, subtitle that works on one client doesn't necessarily means it will works on other client, sometimes you need to figure out the subtitle codec and dealing with the hassle of converting it to other format, a massive hassle. With Plex, it just woks, no, you don't need to pull your hair out. 3. Cross-platform client app that WORKS. Yes! Jellyfin does has a lot of client app for different platform and more is coming (I'm still waiting), but the are a lot of creases haven't been smooth out. Back when I extensively tested Jellyfin (user level kind of extensive...), Web base client worked the best (worked with little issues), followed by Android client, Android TV client was worst. Why is that so? Because different client OS is developed by different people at their free time, compatibility isn't guaranteed. In a nutshell, plex is better and easier to manage after unlocking the paywall, especially if you need transcode and subtitle sync. I chose Plex, this doesn't mean I don't have complaint with Plex, both Plex and Jellyfin have more pros and cons that I did not mention here. Combining all the pros and cons that I did or did not mentioned, Plex still edges out Jellyfin, for a large scales, IMHO. That being said, I'm still looking forward to see Jellyfin grow as I truly love opensource project. BTW, for newbies, do your research before jumping in, my use case doesn't necessarily suit you, take this as a reference and make your own decision, cheers.
I love Jellyfin, but it's implementation outside the browser is pretty buggy sadly.. I suffer through it but man.. I'd pay to get some working apps lol.
Came here to see what the alts were, but as a lifetime Plex subscriber cannot see any additional benefits. I'm happy to pay for the excellent features for Plex, I am happy to pay money for a product. Mobile downloads are great, playing when phone is locked, family and groups work great. UI is great and clean. Never had a problem, worth paying for.
Jellyfin still hasn't really caught up to emby, and while I would prefer to support an open-source approach, I don't think emby is as 'closed' as some might make out. I'd take either over Plex, which became too controlling about 3-4 years ago and lost me when they needed me to log in to their service to connect to my server.
Its light and it works. I just don't see what I could possibly want that Emby isn't easily offering me. Its intuitive and the experience makes the jump from netflix smooth as butter.
Great video, thanks for sharing. Could you do a video on the best way to organize TV shows? I tried several ways, but doesnt seem to work. Jellyfin shows me all episodes of all seasons with the exact same name 😂, impossible to find the right episode.
I’ve tried all three extensively. Kodi/Emby is the only platform I can vouche for. Jellyfin isn’t there yet, there are a lot of missing features. I have no idea why Plex is so big. It’s slower than Windows Vista, it’s interface sucks and the transcoding is TERRIBLE. I highly highly recommended Kodi and Emby.
Kodi is brilliant I used it myself. By the fast the best UI, so fast and configurable. however, I had a very elaborate custom setup and it became a pain re doing my setup everytime they did a major change , especially as I had multiple players. A benefit of plex is most of your setup is do e once on the sever and the player comfit is simple. With kodi, I found having to spend hours configuring each client
They are quite literally the same thing except Emby is slightly more updated but makes you pay for features you could get completely for free with jellyfish.
I like Plex and have used it for so long that I don't even consider it software so much as just a part of my life. I'm glad this project exists though because recently Plex has been adding a lot of.. "new features" let's call it, a lot of which have to do with ads, that I'm a little concerned about what the future holds. For now I am still a die hard Plex user, but if Plex treads a little too far down the ad rabbit hole, I'm thankful there is a good alternative to turn to.
I too am a plex user (paid) and it's just part of my day, I have it set up with the arr apps so it's pretty seamless! I used to use Kofi but I found that I was spending more time tinkering and trying to get stuff to work than I was enjoying the content, so I made the switch. I love supporting open source project so I think that I'll give Emby and Jeolyfin a try
Question: youre able to catogorize but can you subgenre films and tv series...for Instance 2 options. 1 - Button for Films & 1 for Tv shows. 2. Within each of them you might have main genres like Horror, comedy, action etc.. 3. SUB-Genres within each genre. Like in the horror you might want 1 for slasher, 1 for zombie, 1 for creature features etc 4. Within these subgenres still be able to groupovies into their own collections (Like Return of the Living Dead 1,2 3 4 & 5 within the zombie subgenres) Plex seems to allow genres like horror etc but then not subgenres within these groups for grouping without using collections. The problem is if you use collections for the subgenres youre not able to group each film series within the collections as youre already in a collection Cheers
I'd love to give this a try, but I have Plex setup and working on my TrueNAS server. It's already doing what I need it to. Not to mention I don't feel like setting up a new media server. I don't have a ton of free time, so that's a project I don't care to take on.
I could not get MKV working on Plex, and on Jellyfin i could not add a USB SSD to the Pi. Why is it that all those media players are pita to work with.
I have been using Plex for many years now. The free version. It serves my purposes well. Easy to setup and manage libraries and metadata. I am now looking at Jellyfin. Been running it for a few days and dont really find how is it any better than Plex. I dont use hardware transcoding. So dont need a Plex pass. All my media is in a single library subdivided by media types. I have multi-language media and need/want to be able to manage metadata in different languages. It is very easy to do that in Plex. I cant find a way to do that in Jellyfin without having to separate my media into separate libraries for each language. Dont want to do that. With Plex it is easy to update metadata search to indicate language and quickly find the appropriate metadata without typing anything. Cant do that in Jellyfin. I also dont like the user interface. My preference. I will keep playing around with Jellyfin, but I think I will keep Plex as my main media server.
thanks for this interested to see how encoding will work with an older AMD card :) also as good as plex is, I cannot justify paying for it, and normalising volume on plex seems to be an issue I just cannot get around.
Depends how old your talking about. H.264 has been supported since the old HD 7000 series that came out a decade ago. and You'll need at least 300 card for H.265 transcoding. Expect for the current RX 6500XT, it does not have encoding enabled.
Hi, Jellyfin looks great! i was looking for NAS (Synology) software to organize my music collection, have access from everywhere and share them with some of my band members. Would you recommend this for just a large music collection? We are not interested in the movie or other functionalities, just the music option. Would like to hear your opinion!
So frustrating, I have looked at a LOT of reviews, etc., for Jellyfin, and no one covers how to setup for photos. I have thousands of family photos to share with family, but so far have found no servers to do that well or at all. Can you assist?
i had tested this app, and let me tell you that it has the same source-code as emby! & from my experience of testing the both apps, emby is way better and faster than jellyfin! & i had one problem that i couldnt fix it cuz i didnt give it time & effort! but emby is an app ready out of the box, plug n play no worck needed or time waisted (i'm using the free version) yes i saw more option in jellyfin but at the expense of stability & comfort, i choose emby evry time.
I'm a long time Emby user and contributed early on, so I am grandfathered in, and never have to pay again. Its very dynamic and reminds a lot of Kaleidescape. Metadata gathering is autmoatic and easy. It has faults though. ISOs will not play. When I started my movie collection year ago, I used ISOs so that I got the menus and all of the extras. You have to load a different player that plays ISOs and set it as a player just for specific files. Another major annoyance is that they update the software a couple of times a year and then nothing works correctly for about a week. I will give this a try and see if I like it better.
I find it a bit funny that you expect everyone else to work for free, but you not wanting to pay or not liking paywalls, but start your video with a sponsored segment. Appreciate the info on Jellyfin, even though I see no big enough advantages to change up my current setup. It’s good to know what else is available, and I can’t remember I’ve heard about it before.
Are you the guy who made emby? But seriously... If I like open source software that means that I want everyone to work for free and I also do not deserve to eat. Yes. That is what I want. I'm glad you're here to sort that out.
I just wanna be able to stream videos to my Apple Watch. I know it’s a niche usecase, but it’s handy when you’re mostly listening to something and just need to be able to glance at a visual here and there. And I’m sure plenty more people would like to stream music to it. TH-cam works with a 3rd party app these days, but so far not Plex.
I have Plex and tried jellyfin on my windows system. Results: Needed 3 installs to finally get it working. One movie folder added without a problem, after that no folders I try to add show up. Installed app doesn't find the server automatically on the network. Tried 5 different movies where jellyfin was only be able to play one. So the windows version is not that good in my opinion. I would suggest Kodi or Plex with a lifetime pass as they work as expected
So my main (of the many, quite frankly) complaint as a long time plex user is now that I live in an area with very spotty internet service, if the internet is out you can't change profiles on any player. Now, sure, this is an issue that will be resolved shortly as the fiber access gets built into our poor little mountain town, but this is such a ridiculous thing in my mind to have to deal with. If my 4 year old was the last one watching tv in my room, too bad, no Rick and Morty or whatever for me. I'm about to migrate over.
One of my problems with Plex is navigating through it with a remote is kind of slow. Like if I want to navigate to "T" why do I have to go through A to K first. Why not let let me go in reverse A, Z to "T"?
This is the easy part for me, what i struggle with is getting my stuff to play well on my tv. The buffering is extremely slow so i constantly have to wait as if i were in 2011 and i don't know what's causing it
I've ran into a problem with seasons. All the seasons going above 10 would have repeats of season 1 through 9. I figured out what the problem is. It's the numbering. Season folders being named season 1. That would cause duplicate. But if you name it season 01 The season then would not duplicate. I took the server offline to try it out. I have a way to rename folders in mass if you want to speed up folder renaming.
Would you happen to know if theres a metadata renaming thing with jellyfin where it automatically renames the actual file once proper metadata is found (for example: Show.S01E02)?
Thanks for that video, didn't know about these other repos! How do you download your subtitles by the way? They are not automatically downloaded when playing a media file and you cannot set a scheduled task to download all subtitles because OpenSubtitles only permits 20 download per day.
Subbed, I am so sick of Plex and it's bullshit. My library has been completely fine for years and this past year all of my anime is matching to completely random stuff. Lifetime plex pass member... hoping to tackle the migration to Jellyfin this weekend. How does Jellyfin handle OVA's and Movies? Are you able to store say the 10+ DBZ movies in a DBZ collection with the anime episodes? Plex tends to hit the struggle bus on this
How does Jellyfin handle .ass subtitles? I've noticed in a lot of anime I use for Plex that they don't have subtitles for words on screen or the title of the anime, but the subtitles online are only .ass subtitles which I cannot add myself without having subtitles on all the time (just so you know, because of my eyes, I can only use dubbed anime because I can't read words on screen very well thanks to a macular hole in my eye). Thanks to anyone who can answer.
Jellyfin is NOT better then Emby. I've tried both, and used both. I'm using Emby now. Jellyfin is a fork of Emby, so basically they are the same, but Emby has many more options.
This is neat, but Plex maturity makes for a more solid experience. I’ve been using Plex for 8 years. Open source is great as a software engineer I appreciate it but it certainly doesn’t make something automatically better. Plex has a lot of great developers paid full time to make it great and to put an app on every platform. Sometimes you have to be willing to put your money down, and I paid $120 once 8 years ago and they’ve never asked for another penny.
Does JellyFin make sense for people who don't want to "own" movies? I find the price of owning a move far more expensive than just renting it, plus I don't usually watch a movie more than once. Same with music; cheaper to pay a monthly subscription and listen to EVERYTHING rather than buying music. I have a huge collection of CDs from way back, but I don't need them anymore. You don't "own" this stuff anyway. You just have a license to play it privately. So what am I missing? Why would I need JellyFin?
they would need to have support for routers and Nvidia SHIELD devices first and foremost. I use these as servers as well. I have about 5 servers in my home to serve up media. And the way I have it setup is a nightmare.
Why all those media servers forcing you to have VERY specific folder structure? Jellyfin can't scan folder deeper than 3 levels and obviously can't display them properly.
I swapped over to Jellyfin after watching this. I do like Plex, but I can't justify the cost for the 'pro features' as I won't use MOST of them. The one thing I really wanted is mobile phone streaming. With Plex I had to download the video from the NAS and then play it locally, now I don't need to, with Jellyfin it can stream for free from my NAS and I don't need a Plex Pass to do so. My NAS does come with some software to do this, but it's clunky and doesn't work well. Multiple users also is handy, my partner can now use this for her own playlists or whatever without logging in to my account, so all in all pretty good. The only thing I did notice is that Jellyfin works only from top level folders on the NAS, at least in my version and you need to give the user (it creates one) permissions to the folder so it can read/write. It does mention this during install, so I knew about this, but it's easy to miss if you're not paying attention
Looks intuiging, but I purchased a PLEX lifetime pass years back, so no other fees - monthly or otherwise. I use it in/outside the home, via mobile, on my NAS, family has access, etc. - is there any reason to even look at Jellyfin in my case, as it doesn't seem likely...?
@@Asgard2693 The are altered versions of EMBY I've used that have no nag screens and remember my settings but when the is any updates it brakes it again.
@@hicobra I don't know what Nag screens you are referring to... I've used it for 2 years and it's been great no issues, I've flipped between paid and unpaid a few times but ultimately it's been phenomenal some times an update will come in and Bork remote play but I rarely use it so didn't bother with it. I've been running Jellyfin alongside it for the last few weeks and although its based on Emby it's different enough to enjoy it.
@@Asgard2693 Had it on my NAS had it on my LG TV and after a bit the was a 20 second countdown nag timer between videos it was faster to shutdown and open again on the free one but i had to stop using when i was doing my cardiovascular exercise videos.
I've been wanting to build a small home server for Jellyfin for a while now. Glad to see other people are into is as much as I am! Great work from the Open Source community!
Jellyfin is such an impressive project. especially because the emby dude was kind of a dick and taunted the free software community with "oh you have no idea how much work it is" and then fucking blew his project away. Because turns out 10 people doing something together in the open is better than one guy doing something alone in secret
💯
Except Emby still blows it out of the water, especially on the client side of things.......
@@Turbojugend27 Yeah, if I could have the Emby frontend with the Plex backend (Filtering faster, better scanning processes, etc.) that would be sth
@@Turbojugend27 the only reason I don’t use emby is the restriction of clients not users . I can’t control who signs in and I can’t see what devices or have that control.
Haha is that what happened to Emby? The dude pissed off a bunch of devs on Reddit and they decided to eat his lunch? xD
People never learn from the lessons in history. Never taunt and goad smart, determined people into a d!ck measuring contest lol
Thanks for pointing this out to me.
Been using plex for a while and was unhappy about how inflexible it is.
With Jellyfish is much easier to build my library how I want it rather than how the software wants it.
Most importantly, I can keep my original folder structure and names and still have the software treat the data properly and correctly without having to do everything by hand.
Yea, I was looking through some old files, and found things like "plex theme" from the days when plex belonged to the user (buyer), and you could modify it's appearance amongst other customizations. All in all, Plex was there when nothing else was, so I'm happy to be using it for these past 10 years. It's inevitable for things to come along and take a fresh approach to a solution, so onward the journey continues.
As a hardcore user of Plex, Jellyfin will more than likely be the longterm media server that I use if and when plex ever goes down the drain and goes all in on free tv/movie streaming and abandons their roots. But until then I'll keep riding the plex train until the wheels fall off.
Yeah, What kills it for me is the offline viewing, loose internet, it'll work for a day or 2 then its nope can't view your own content! The whole point of me setting up a media server is to have something to watch when the net goes down, and it happens often, country life ya know, So I do have Jellyfin running in a VM on my TrueNAS server just for that reason alone, If Jellyfin gets better or even if they introduce a pay model, I'd have no issues ditching Plex, the way Plex sets things up is a reason I wont support them, its like paying for a giant ad, since ya know it wont default to displaying what you have hosted, just further confuses some people.
I love Jellyfin. I've been using it for a couple years now in a Proxmox container. There are plenty of tutorials for setting up GPU passthrough to the Jellyfin container which honestly is the hardest part of the entire setup. Of course if you're not using virtualization, hardware acceleration practically works out of the box. Same for Intel's iGPU stuff.
My only gripe with JF is that I wish their IPTV stuff worked a little better. There is no way to dedupe or manage iptv lists, you have to use something like xTeVe or TVHeadend to get that to work (or use a third party IPTV list editor). There also doesn't appear to be a buffer, so the streams are susceptible to jitter, drops, and freezes. xTeVe, which hasn't been updated in a couple years, helps a lot in this arena, but it also has its problems.
But all-in-all, JF is the best media server out there, imo.
I too used plex for years. Understood every aspect of the application, even down to the structure of the database. I started using jellyfin because of a pay wall issue and also plugins. I love jellyfin. I love it so much I'm never going back to Plex. This youtuber nails it.
@@d1ddyp0p I would say media playback should be free.
Media should have a cost.but pirates.
Interesting - I'm a lifetime Plex Member basically for as long as Plex has lived.... but also think the progress has stagnated and that they are not listening to the community. Going to start checking this out to be honest.
@@PeterKocic It's very much worth it. You can stand up a Jellyfin instance alongside Plex and point it at the same media folders Plex is using, it maintains its own metadata database just like Plex does, so it won't mess up any of Plex's stuff. But IMO, Plex basically doesn't care about the "home media server" aspect anymore, they're solely focused on Plex TV, as they just aren't improving the home streaming aspect that got Plex to be the juggernaut it became.
Jellyfin loads media faster, has better playback options, etc. Plex's only real advantage is ubiquity, and certain clients being better. Like... any Smart TV will have Plex on it but not necessarily Jellyfin, but if you use a dedicated streaming device like Shield Pro, AppleTV+, FireStick, Rokku, etc, that doesn't matter as Jellyfin is on all of them. But the Plex apps for iOS and Android seem to have better codec support than the Jellyfin ones, although for Jellyfin Infuse on iOS is great (even if it costs like $100 for a lifetime license... I don't have an AppleTV or I might buy it, as I don't like watching stuff from my phone or tablet anyway). But on a device that has full codec support like the Nvidia Shield Pro and with proper settings (e.g., the Jellyfin app on Android TV defaults to using an inferior player, so change it to libvlc which will Direct Play basically anything), Jellyfin runs circles around Plex IMO.
I dont really like the UI of Jellyfin. Plex is more refined (granted they have more time to refine it). I'm sure jellyfin works fine for you and others, but it's not for me, at least not yet.
Jellyfin's UI is a lot more customizable than Plex's... which basically isn't customizable at all. Plex's UI looks archaic at this point.
@@praetorxyn Plex's UI is customisable. But i guess it depends what you mean by customisable. For example with plex, you can change what appears on the home screen, i,e which library's appear and in which order you prefer. You can also add various suggestions of varying types and categories. So i would disagree with the statement that Plex isn't customisable at all. Also I dont know how often you last used Plex, but it is far from archaic. It is very modern and has a lot of great new UI tools
I agree plex ui is beautiful jelly looks like a typical linux ui
I actually feel the exact opposite, interestingly enough. I recently switched from plex to jellyfin, and IMO plex’s interface is way too cluttered, and Jellyfin is simple and just plain works without all the unnecessary crap all around the UI
@@ArizonaJewell agree plex is clustered after initial install, but it is super super easy to just remove the extra rubbish from your home screen and side bar. Mine only shows my actual content and I don't even see the plex owned stuff and the UI is clean and modern, the Jellyfin UI doesn't look modern
Using Plex with the lifetime pass that I got for 50% off two years ago. Can't be happier with it, does everything I want and need.
and it brakes something with every update
@@francisnorthwood7862 Not in my experience, never had an issue in the many years I'm using it.
@dskoul just sharing my experience with Plex over the past 4 years. If you don't care why even bother speaking up?
@dskoul "Dude", it literally compares Jellyfin to Plex in the video title and the video itself starts with Logan talking about Plex in case you haven't even noticed. lol
@dskoul If you didn't care, why did you reply? Seems like you do care.
I use Jellyfin for educational projects such as books, audiobooks and documentaries I share with my group. I have plex just for movies, music and photos. I love both.
After spending a day with Jellyfin, its going to be a no from me. Plex does collections wayyyy better and as someone with a massive media library, that's of utmost importance to me. Collections aren't just for grouping together a cinematic universe, but Jellyfin seems to be under that impression. Weirdly inflexible. Kodi+Emby just feels like Plex 10 years ago with far fewer security features.
Library scans take such a long time in Jellyfin, many times longer than Plex. I like open source SW, but when it is so far behind, I will not sacrifice the ease of use.
Tbh I'm still a KODI user. If not for the streaming aspect of Plex, I feel KODI does everything better.
I agree entirely. Plex is FAR ahead in terms of look, feel, content matching, apps, and delivery. Jelly is nice, but it ain't there yet.
@@andrebraitI'm with you there, Kodi is literally 8,000 times better than anything else out there.
Plex can't even play videos reliably.
Thanks for the demo and info. I have setup both plex and jellyfin on a vm with a graphics card. Not sure which one I prefer but at least both options are there. Have a great day
Wrongly identified movies/shows can be avoided by naming movie/show files correctly. For example the Wicked City file should have been named "Wicked City (1987).mp4". This will then properly identify the movie. This is an issue with Doctor Who shows. anything pre-2005 can be in a folder named Doctor Who, then Series 01, Series 02, etc. But for 2005 and beyond, you need to put those in a folder named "Doctor Who (2005), then each season in it's own season folder named Season 01, Season 02, etc. I use Jellyfin with this naming structure and have no issues. I also use Emby, and use the same naming structure for that as well. Both servers softwares have extensive articles on their forums that explain how folder/file naming works.
Good timing. I just got a seedbox set up and now it's the perfect place to host a jellyfin server so that I can watch my movies and shows without filling the hard drives on my devices. I was able to get it set up and watched the new Rick and Morty episode streamed from my seedbox to my Roku. Cool stuff 👍
Just a tip for mismatching.
Use sonarr for media management in series folder format till be
{Series TitleTheYear} [tvdb-{TvdbId}]
episode format
{Series Title} - S{season:00}E{episode:00} - {absolute:000} - [{Quality Title} {MediaInfo VideoCodec}] [{MediaInfo AudioCodec}{MediaInfo AudioChannels}] - [{Release.Group}]
I do the bottom one for Films but TV Shows tend to be Basic.
TV Show\TV Show - S01E01.mkv
Films tend to be
Movie 2000\Movie - 1080P - 7.1 Atmos - 2000.mkv
I'm not convinced. I'm a long-time Plex user. My setup is my media is on a NAS and Plex is on a small dedicated used Linux box. Media is served un-transcoded to everything in the house as they are all able to digest it natively. For the few times I serve outside the home my server hardware does include the appropriate CPU to do light transcoding.
Some of the actions you were doing in the Jellyfin are trivial in Plex like changing the artwork or fixing a match. A couple of clicks and you're done.
My biggest gripe is I have to manually upgrade the version of Plex. It's not easy or automated. But it's only 5 minutes or so.
I'm already invested in a lifetime membership in Plex, but I'm sure a free version of a solid media platform is good for a lot of people. Thanks for the video.
5 seonds to update Plex in docker! Super easy.
Use Docker... I have a cron job that updates Plex every day, but I've recently spun up a Jellyfin instance and haven't looked at Plex since other than to compare it. Jellyfin runs circles around it IMO, and I've been a lifetime Plex pass user for years. Plex just doesn't care about the whole "home media server" thing anymore, only about Plex TV.
Holy crap. I haven't seen a TekSyndicate video in years. Glad to see you're still kicking. Still great content.
With files becoming so much larger over the years, Im finally building a NAS. Im sick of my stuff being across different external drives and having to buy another drive to shove into my tower. Im just waiting until the rest of the parts to come in. Im guessing 44TB is going to cover me with Unraid.
I have been looking at media server applications too since the tech has grown quite a bit since I was playing around with kodi 10 yrs ago. I am probably going to do the Jellyfin route since Im not interested in paying a subscription to watch MY own media. I have zero issues with donating or buying a reasonably priced lifetime license (did it with Launchbox and I was happy to do it).
Plex has a lifetime option which feels a little to high for me, but the thing that turns me off now is how they treating the paid customers. Jellyfin it is.
If I didn't have a Plex license already I wouldn't buy one now. The only real advantage Plex has over Jellyfin is ubiquity. Basically every smart TV or smart TV device (e.g. Fire Stick, Roku, etc) is going to have a Plex app, but for example my LG C8 from 2019 does not have a Jellyfin app (but apparently the newer ones running webOS 6 do, and the older webOS 5 TVs like mine will have a Jellyfin app eventually, according to a July update). But if you have a client with proper Jellyfin support like the Nvidia Shield Pro, AppleTV+, etc. and you set it up properly, Jellyfin runs circles around Plex IMO.
On the storage, it's probably a little late after 5 months, but it depends on how much of it gets cut into for redundancy. I run RAID 10 in my NAS for both redundancy and speed, and thus my 48 TB is cut down to about 22 TB usable, but I'm glad I did it as I had my first ever drive failure a month or two ago and was able to replace the drive and rebuild the storage pool with no data loss because of it.
@@praetorxyn I'm using UnRaid. Thats a JBOD system. As it stands, I'm using 1 disc for parity right now. I'll probably upgrade the system down the line when its outgrown my modded SAMA IM01 case and I'll put together a rack when I get around to wiring my house. Jellyfin support was fine by me since my TV has access to Jellyfin app.
I run both on my TrueNAS Scale instance and I'm very happy with Jellyfin, it feels less bloated than Plex, and also lets you configure transcoding settings with more customization. On the client side, it's not supported on every os (Eg. Tizen doesn't have an official client), but if you use Android it works oob.
You scrolling through the anime movies section literally looks like my current library in Plex. Fantastic taste
2:52 I use Jellyfin myself and I think it's amazing, but I would actually suggest the opposite given this scenario.
Jellyfin is best used on a local network, and Plex is better for multiple users. Obviously, if you already have a Plex setup for personal use, there's little reason to change unless you absolutely despise the fact you need to use their auth servers or hate their ads (both of which I can't stand).
You did mention that downloading files remotely is locked behind a paywall, so maybe that's another reason to switch, but Plex also has a massive advantage with their centralized auth and multitude of clients. An advantage which I hope will disappear as Jellyfin matures and gains wider adoption.
It works great remotely and I even have it mapped to a domain using ddns. Plus you get all the features so I much prefer it for remote connections.
@Tek Syndicate Yeah, admittedly I don't access it outside my LAN or have any remote users so I can't exactly comment on performance, though I assume it's fine (when your upload isn't 1.5mbps, lol).
My comments on the best usecase (local vs. remote) mostly stem from the fact that Jellyfin's native clients vary wildly in development. Anecdotally, I haven't had many issues with Android TV, but the Roku and Firestick apps are missing many features and crash semi-frequently. The plugin for Kodi is more available and reliable, but the responsiveness and feel of the UI varies per device.
As I said in my original comment, I hope that the state of Jellyfin's clients continue to improve because it seems to be the biggest obstacle to potential adopters. In the near future I doubt it'll be much of a contest, but for now it's very much decided on a case-by-case basis.
@@lyingriotman2220 I also prefer it for multiple users because they are easily managed from the admin panel... I can have tons of users... and they can access it from wherever... and they can have different perms and different folder access... and their recently played/resume list is unique. It's really handy for that.
I despise what Plex has become, because of money from the studios, and what it's eventually going to become. I didn't even know that they put personal media libraries behind a paywall now. I was recently setting up Plex clients for a few people, and it's just disgusting. A huge list of streaming services that can be integrated into it. Stupidity. It's already on a black box or smart TV that has those apps, so why add Plex as a layer in between? I found with one client that it was impossible to remove the free Plex content from the side menu. What's the point of me giving people access then if they can just watch it there? I despise their attitude, that people who paid for it aren't customers. If I need support for something I've paid for, I'm at the mercy of their attitude. I loathe their attitude towards file naming. It's geared towards the naming conventions of pirated content, but shhh about any of that. Mockingjay parts 1 and 2, gotta put a year behind those file names, or they WILL be joined into 1 entry. There is a timer, so if I want to fall asleep to a show, and have the sound keep me asleep, it's impossible. People have been asking for an option to disable it for years now, and nothing. Their attitude about transcoding and the formats they choose to use is insanity. No, don't stream AC3, when every device out there can actually play it. Randomly bounce around between AAC, MP3, and OPUS. Don't let me choose the audio format to transcode to. If you have interlaced content and can't directly play it, it turns into 30 progressive frames per second (or 25 for PAL). They don't bob de-interlace it to the full field rate. It's only a matter of time before they pull the plug on personal media altogether.
Wait, what ads?
So jellyfin is a fork from emby so its essentially all features from emby at a certain point. When they decided to go close source the team split up. I get why you would want to go for jellyfin because of the privacy part. It’s just that maintaining and developing mobile apps that are good and on so many platforms is alot of work and prob not something a team can work on full time for free. These things cost money and take up time and resources. I know the mobile apps for emby sucked compared to plex for a very long time and only got good relativley recently. They might have been at a good point when they broke off and made jellyfin but eventually over time, i have a hard time beliving jellyfin will be better than emby feature wise and especially the mobile experience. If you dont care about good apps on other platforms but only using it in the web browser and the privacy part than jellyfin is good, + it’s free. If you want the best experience and most features choose emby.
I totally agree, I think he is basically calling it better because it's "Free". I would rather pay folks for their hard work when it works, Emby is easily imo the best we have and is constantly evolving, who knew we needed a simply thing like knowing when what we are watching will finish haha. Emby is doing gods work and it simply works
You can bypass the online account issue in Windows 11 Home. During boot up, and at the connect to a network screen, 1. don't connect to any network, 2. use shift+F10 to bring up a command prompt and type the following: OOBE\BYPASSNRO (must be in caps). This will restart your system and allow you to install using a local account. Once the reboot is complete, you can skip connecting to a network and choose the sign in without a microsoft account option.
2 questions? 1. Do you keep Anime series episodes and related movies in the same folder? 2. I plan on using Docker, can you share the same folders/libraries between different docker containers.
so its been a minute, but I started with Jellyfin on my QNAP nas in a docker container because it's free, and as you said, better looking. That was good enough for me to give it a go. The problem I had, at least at that time, was the Android tv client was not the greatest and I had issues with playback where it would start tv episodes in the middle and I couldn't rewind or something, I can't remember exactly the issue, but I do remember that the client was ugly and unrefined compared to Plex, so i switched over. No hate for Jellyfin, it wasn't quite ready for my use case at the time. Eventually I'll probably try it again, but I've gotten pretty accustom to the nice features a plex pass offers.
Jellyfin on qnap nas in a docker seems to cost 5€, so its not free, or did I look in the wrong place?
@@stafvh5783 you definitely did. Docker containers don't cost anything. Maybe your looking at a qpkg. Open a terminal and run a docker pull on the image.
@@turret_sindrone tnx
Forget about everything, I love your library
you had me at Record of Lodoss War. This is a great anime that I thought more people would know.
I got Plex when they were offering lifetime memberships for a $180 one time payment, yeah I'm not switching.
I got a lifetime membership to Plex very early on and never used anything else but I'm considering trying Jellyfin out as it looks like a solid alternative
It definitely is a solid alternative even with its issues, But its also free so ya know, they do take their time to fix things as well, it super easy to have people setup on their TV's, but if they forget their login, you will have to reset their password, and Jellyfin works offline all the time, Plex don't unfortunately. Plex does transcode better/faster as well with less resources. I had to give Jellyfin a break, I was using it for about a year but its sorta buggy and needs rebooted often, so I use Jellyfin as a backup and for offline viewing since my internet isn't the most reliable thing. Plex just works for me, although its also annoying in different ways.
Is that with iptv?
Thanks for this. I've been using Plex since the very early days. I love Plex, but I'm really like Jellyfin too. I like the interface and setup was a breeze. I'll probably run bot Plex and Jellfin.
Yeah but can you use gpu hardware transcoding in docker? I can’t seem to find the answer, otherwise I’d switch from Emby and give it a whirl!
I'm guessing jellyfin has come a long way since I last tried it but it's just not as widely adopted on the vast range of devices that my family members use like smart TVs and such, when I tried it a while back it had inferior playback but that was a while back. The UI I dunno it's so dated in regards to their apps and after dealing with emby for a while I'm sick of this UI personally.
Still a great free option tho and is probably giving emby and run for their money in cases.
Thanks for the look into Jellyfin and I love your taste in anime, sniped a few 80s sci-fi shows I haven't seen before!
I have been just playing media files through vlc over a local network but windows default transfer protocols are getting worse with each update to the point where even increasing the buffer within vlc still led to stutter (jumbo frames enabled on the hardware side and all that jazz) and a fairly fat (bandwith) & fast local network.
Gave this a try after your lastest video on it and its been great, no noticable loss of quality video wise. It will take a while to get it running how i like it, and it does wierd things like episodes of Father Ted (british/irish commedy) is named and displayed as an anime with a completely different name, something to problem solve anyway which is good for getting to know the software...
Anyway rambling aside just wanted to say thanks for putting me onto this as i hate using paid for and closed software like plex, cheers dude!
nice bro im in the process to find out what media server to use and seeing jellyfin like its in real use is really helpfull
So it's like plex but you have to import all of the information yourself? Awesome!
Yeah I tried Jellyfin for a few days, then moved to Emby. Night and day difference, even with having to pay. It's worth it.
I'm really new to this been wanting to set up a plex media player on an older computer of mine (8700k/gtx1080) and after seeing this I think I'll switch to jellyfin now as I really like this layout and especially how easy you did it!
"Older computer" Lol, my actual gaming rig is worse.
@@3STYLER hahaha your right it's still fairly capable even though I've upgraded them now, but they are both kind of special to me. The 8700k is the first CPU I've delidded with LM and the 1080 was my first GPU when I got into pc gaming.
I had jellyfin setup on a Phenom II x3 B75, I had a GTX 1070 in it so if it needed to transcode, the 1070 took that load, worked well, Free version of Plex wouldn't work well on it if it needed to transcode, not enough CPU lol.
Kodi chokes hardware , Plex can't play H265 or large 4K files even on the local network. Jellyfin is good but quite buggy. The best option is Emby. None of the other systems have the "virtual stretch" feature on like Emby does. Emby can do a "vertical stretch" on video files of any resolution.
- Sling media into my eyeballs, lol. My story was pretty much the same with plex bur gradually went over to emby. I have a hard time beliving jeklyfin would be better than emby, it sounds a little vit like you never really tried emby.
You conviced me and few months later i say thank you. I only have Jellyfin for my Anime collection bc it looks gorgeous compared to Plex dimming artwork and a simple image and description. I don't need regular movies to look awesome before i play them but anime is art before playing it. Should be nice if in the future it will support manga content from digital media like .epub, .pdf, etc and it scrolls pages like an slideshow. You know what? every manga i have i made slideshows and now those manga are videos in my library, yes i prefer to read manga with japanese bgm.
It's ok, but still plex has a app on almost all tv's and jellyfin does not and i can't expect all my friends to setup something with jellyfin.
I don't use smart TVs, I connect all mine to computers... but they have fireTV, android TV, Roku, AppleTV, MrMC, and Samsung is coming soon. I have no idea what most of that means, lol.
It's coming to LG WebOS and Samsung + Sony and Philips use Android TV soon to be GoogleTV
so it's already there and Toshiba and Panasonic mostly use FireTV now so what TV is it that
jellyfin is not coming too.
@@teksyndicate I started out with Jellyfin a year ago, as much as I want to like it, I don't. There are a few major thing that pushed me to plex.
1. Much Better transcode, 4k transcode is a none issue now, anyone realized that? I tried transcoding 4k to 320p, without a hitch, no color shifting no nothing, it just works.
2. Subtitle sync issue, a lot of subtitles require transcoding. With Jellyfin, for some video, the subtitle is always out of sync. Subtitle sync is very very important if you consume content from various countries. With Jellyfin, subtitle that works on one client doesn't necessarily means it will works on other client, sometimes you need to figure out the subtitle codec and dealing with the hassle of converting it to other format, a massive hassle. With Plex, it just woks, no, you don't need to pull your hair out.
3. Cross-platform client app that WORKS. Yes! Jellyfin does has a lot of client app for different platform and more is coming (I'm still waiting), but the are a lot of creases haven't been smooth out. Back when I extensively tested Jellyfin (user level kind of extensive...), Web base client worked the best (worked with little issues), followed by Android client, Android TV client was worst. Why is that so? Because different client OS is developed by different people at their free time, compatibility isn't guaranteed.
In a nutshell, plex is better and easier to manage after unlocking the paywall, especially if you need transcode and subtitle sync. I chose Plex, this doesn't mean I don't have complaint with Plex, both Plex and Jellyfin have more pros and cons that I did not mention here. Combining all the pros and cons that I did or did not mentioned, Plex still edges out Jellyfin, for a large scales, IMHO.
That being said, I'm still looking forward to see Jellyfin grow as I truly love opensource project. BTW, for newbies, do your research before jumping in, my use case doesn't necessarily suit you, take this as a reference and make your own decision, cheers.
They can buy a cheap tv stick if they're freeloading from you
Even if there is no actual Jellyfin app you can still access the server through most media apps.
I love Jellyfin, but it's implementation outside the browser is pretty buggy sadly.. I suffer through it but man.. I'd pay to get some working apps lol.
Sold! Been contemplating jellyfin for a while, but this video made it the obvious choice for my application
Came here to see what the alts were, but as a lifetime Plex subscriber cannot see any additional benefits. I'm happy to pay for the excellent features for Plex, I am happy to pay money for a product.
Mobile downloads are great, playing when phone is locked, family and groups work great. UI is great and clean. Never had a problem, worth paying for.
Plex’s new cross platform Discovery/Search feature is a game changer.
Except for the reason to run a media server is to not have to pay for streaming services? Seems useless to me.
@@Turbojugend27 Yea but its not forced only if you want others to use it
Had a workflow 10+ years ago. Didn’t know that so much people still manage their movies like that. I thought that nowadays no one has time for that 😂
Jellyfin still hasn't really caught up to emby, and while I would prefer to support an open-source approach, I don't think emby is as 'closed' as some might make out. I'd take either over Plex, which became too controlling about 3-4 years ago and lost me when they needed me to log in to their service to connect to my server.
Its light and it works.
I just don't see what I could possibly want that Emby isn't easily offering me. Its intuitive and the experience makes the jump from netflix smooth as butter.
🤨 are you sure that it is better then emby?
Great video, thanks for sharing. Could you do a video on the best way to organize TV shows?
I tried several ways, but doesnt seem to work. Jellyfin shows me all episodes of all seasons with the exact same name 😂, impossible to find the right episode.
I’ve tried all three extensively. Kodi/Emby is the only platform I can vouche for. Jellyfin isn’t there yet, there are a lot of missing features. I have no idea why Plex is so big. It’s slower than Windows Vista, it’s interface sucks and the transcoding is TERRIBLE. I highly highly recommended Kodi and Emby.
Kodi is brilliant I used it myself. By the fast the best UI, so fast and configurable. however, I had a very elaborate custom setup and it became a pain re doing my setup everytime they did a major change , especially as I had multiple players. A benefit of plex is most of your setup is do e once on the sever and the player comfit is simple. With kodi, I found having to spend hours configuring each client
Great stuff, but how is it BETTER than Emby ?
I am personally using Emby, and I am only asking out of curiosity.
Why should I switch ?
This is based on emby but fully open and free. So that's the big difference. You can stream online free and nothing is behind a paywall.
They are quite literally the same thing except Emby is slightly more updated but makes you pay for features you could get completely for free with jellyfish.
8:25 one of my favorite movies. I love Ninja Scroll.
I like Plex and have used it for so long that I don't even consider it software so much as just a part of my life. I'm glad this project exists though because recently Plex has been adding a lot of.. "new features" let's call it, a lot of which have to do with ads, that I'm a little concerned about what the future holds. For now I am still a die hard Plex user, but if Plex treads a little too far down the ad rabbit hole, I'm thankful there is a good alternative to turn to.
I too am a plex user (paid) and it's just part of my day, I have it set up with the arr apps so it's pretty seamless!
I used to use Kofi but I found that I was spending more time tinkering and trying to get stuff to work than I was enjoying the content, so I made the switch. I love supporting open source project so I think that I'll give Emby and Jeolyfin a try
Question: youre able to catogorize but can you subgenre films and tv series...for Instance 2 options.
1 - Button for Films & 1 for Tv shows.
2. Within each of them you might have main genres like Horror, comedy, action etc..
3. SUB-Genres within each genre.
Like in the horror you might want 1 for slasher, 1 for zombie, 1 for creature features etc
4. Within these subgenres still be able to groupovies into their own collections (Like Return of the Living Dead 1,2 3 4 & 5 within the zombie subgenres)
Plex seems to allow genres like horror etc but then not subgenres within these groups for grouping without using collections. The problem is if you use collections for the subgenres youre not able to group each film series within the collections as youre already in a collection
Cheers
I'd love to give this a try, but I have Plex setup and working on my TrueNAS server. It's already doing what I need it to. Not to mention I don't feel like setting up a new media server. I don't have a ton of free time, so that's a project I don't care to take on.
oooh damn the Plugins page is sweet.
I could not get MKV working on Plex, and on Jellyfin i could not add a USB SSD to the Pi.
Why is it that all those media players are pita to work with.
I have been using Plex for many years now. The free version. It serves my purposes well. Easy to setup and manage libraries and metadata.
I am now looking at Jellyfin. Been running it for a few days and dont really find how is it any better than Plex.
I dont use hardware transcoding. So dont need a Plex pass.
All my media is in a single library subdivided by media types. I have multi-language media and need/want to be able to manage metadata in different languages. It is very easy to do that in Plex. I cant find a way to do that in Jellyfin without having to separate my media into separate libraries for each language. Dont want to do that. With Plex it is easy to update metadata search to indicate language and quickly find the appropriate metadata without typing anything. Cant do that in Jellyfin.
I also dont like the user interface. My preference.
I will keep playing around with Jellyfin, but I think I will keep Plex as my main media server.
thanks for this interested to see how encoding will work with an older AMD card :) also as good as plex is, I cannot justify paying for it, and normalising volume on plex seems to be an issue I just cannot get around.
Depends how old your talking about. H.264 has been supported since the old HD 7000 series that came out a decade ago. and You'll need at least 300 card for H.265 transcoding.
Expect for the current RX 6500XT, it does not have encoding enabled.
Hi, Jellyfin looks great! i was looking for NAS (Synology) software to organize my music collection, have access from everywhere and share them with some of my band members. Would you recommend this for just a large music collection? We are not interested in the movie or other functionalities, just the music option. Would like to hear your opinion!
So frustrating, I have looked at a LOT of reviews, etc., for Jellyfin, and no one covers how to setup for photos. I have thousands of family photos to share with family, but so far have found no servers to do that well or at all. Can you assist?
At the beginning you mentioned download media, and hardware encoding. Where are the details on that?
Totally agree with you i previously used Plex then Kodi been using jellyfin now at least 2 years
i had tested this app, and let me tell you that it has the same source-code as emby! & from my experience of testing the both apps, emby is way better and faster than jellyfin! & i had one problem that i couldnt fix it cuz i didnt give it time & effort! but emby is an app ready out of the box, plug n play no worck needed or time waisted (i'm using the free version)
yes i saw more option in jellyfin but at the expense of stability & comfort, i choose emby evry time.
Looks cool, but I'll stick to plex. Pretty happy with the service so far.
Facts same here 💯
Why I like this more than plex is it doesn't require me to login to an external website to use it.
@@phaelax and can be used if your internet goes out with minimum effort
Yeah.. I like how Plex works for me for what I do this far.
agree
I'm a long time Emby user and contributed early on, so I am grandfathered in, and never have to pay again. Its very dynamic and reminds a lot of Kaleidescape. Metadata gathering is autmoatic and easy. It has faults though. ISOs will not play. When I started my movie collection year ago, I used ISOs so that I got the menus and all of the extras. You have to load a different player that plays ISOs and set it as a player just for specific files. Another major annoyance is that they update the software a couple of times a year and then nothing works correctly for about a week. I will give this a try and see if I like it better.
I use emby since media browser and I never had problems with update. I just updated hardware and windows. Though I'm curious and will look at Jellyfin
I find it a bit funny that you expect everyone else to work for free, but you not wanting to pay or not liking paywalls, but start your video with a sponsored segment. Appreciate the info on Jellyfin, even though I see no big enough advantages to change up my current setup. It’s good to know what else is available, and I can’t remember I’ve heard about it before.
Are you the guy who made emby?
But seriously... If I like open source software that means that I want everyone to work for free and I also do not deserve to eat. Yes. That is what I want. I'm glad you're here to sort that out.
Hi, how to access my jellyfin from any device far from home ? Need help with this please
Good video. Simple question: does it DVR TV broadcast via a network tuner such as HD HomeRun?
Been a while since a Tek Syndicate video came up in a search. Wassup Logan :)
Yup, Jellyfin looks better than Plex. The UI really is a big success story, it's very sleek and no nonsense.
I just wanna be able to stream videos to my Apple Watch. I know it’s a niche usecase, but it’s handy when you’re mostly listening to something and just need to be able to glance at a visual here and there. And I’m sure plenty more people would like to stream music to it.
TH-cam works with a 3rd party app these days, but so far not Plex.
I love JELLYFIN!!!!! Got mine running In kubernetes on my server! So much better than Plex plus it’s fully open source!!!
You're great at this sort of content! :)
JellyFin is great! I'm just waiting for them to get their client support figured out, then I'm ready to ditch Plex fully!
I have Plex and tried jellyfin on my windows system.
Results:
Needed 3 installs to finally get it working.
One movie folder added without a problem, after that no folders I try to add show up.
Installed app doesn't find the server automatically on the network.
Tried 5 different movies where jellyfin was only be able to play one.
So the windows version is not that good in my opinion.
I would suggest Kodi or Plex with a lifetime pass as they work as expected
So my main (of the many, quite frankly) complaint as a long time plex user is now that I live in an area with very spotty internet service, if the internet is out you can't change profiles on any player. Now, sure, this is an issue that will be resolved shortly as the fiber access gets built into our poor little mountain town, but this is such a ridiculous thing in my mind to have to deal with. If my 4 year old was the last one watching tv in my room, too bad, no Rick and Morty or whatever for me. I'm about to migrate over.
One of my problems with Plex is navigating through it with a remote is kind of slow. Like if I want to navigate to "T" why do I have to go through A to K first. Why not let let me go in reverse A, Z to "T"?
This is the easy part for me, what i struggle with is getting my stuff to play well on my tv. The buffering is extremely slow so i constantly have to wait as if i were in 2011 and i don't know what's causing it
I've ran into a problem with seasons. All the seasons going above 10 would have repeats of season 1 through 9. I figured out what the problem is. It's the numbering. Season folders being named season 1. That would cause duplicate. But if you name it season 01 The season then would not duplicate. I took the server offline to try it out. I have a way to rename folders in mass if you want to speed up folder renaming.
how do you solve the issue where it makes a copy of every movie in your library ? Every movie appears twice ?
Would you happen to know if theres a metadata renaming thing with jellyfin where it automatically renames the actual file once proper metadata is found (for example: Show.S01E02)?
"Never really got into Emby." Proceeds to use emby clone and praise it's UI. XD
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Thanks for that video, didn't know about these other repos!
How do you download your subtitles by the way? They are not automatically downloaded when playing a media file and you cannot set a scheduled task to download all subtitles because OpenSubtitles only permits 20 download per day.
use subscene
Subbed, I am so sick of Plex and it's bullshit. My library has been completely fine for years and this past year all of my anime is matching to completely random stuff. Lifetime plex pass member... hoping to tackle the migration to Jellyfin this weekend.
How does Jellyfin handle OVA's and Movies? Are you able to store say the 10+ DBZ movies in a DBZ collection with the anime episodes? Plex tends to hit the struggle bus on this
How does Jellyfin handle .ass subtitles? I've noticed in a lot of anime I use for Plex that they don't have subtitles for words on screen or the title of the anime, but the subtitles online are only .ass subtitles which I cannot add myself without having subtitles on all the time (just so you know, because of my eyes, I can only use dubbed anime because I can't read words on screen very well thanks to a macular hole in my eye). Thanks to anyone who can answer.
Jellyfin is NOT better then Emby. I've tried both, and used both. I'm using Emby now. Jellyfin is a fork of Emby, so basically they are the same, but Emby has many more options.
Can you make a new video about this after 1 year? what about using Jellyfin also for music and books? there is anyway to add internet radio?
How do I get the names of the movies and shows to display under the thumbnail images when browsing? Mine only shows the images.
Informative video thanks for sharing, setting this up should I use a VPN?
This is neat, but Plex maturity makes for a more solid experience. I’ve been using Plex for 8 years. Open source is great as a software engineer I appreciate it but it certainly doesn’t make something automatically better. Plex has a lot of great developers paid full time to make it great and to put an app on every platform. Sometimes you have to be willing to put your money down, and I paid $120 once 8 years ago and they’ve never asked for another penny.
I paid for the lifetime ownership of Plex and that has worked very well for me so far.
Does JellyFin make sense for people who don't want to "own" movies? I find the price of owning a move far more expensive than just renting it, plus I don't usually watch a movie more than once. Same with music; cheaper to pay a monthly subscription and listen to EVERYTHING rather than buying music. I have a huge collection of CDs from way back, but I don't need them anymore. You don't "own" this stuff anyway. You just have a license to play it privately. So what am I missing? Why would I need JellyFin?
they would need to have support for routers and Nvidia SHIELD devices first and foremost. I use these as servers as well. I have about 5 servers in my home to serve up media. And the way I have it setup is a nightmare.
Why all those media servers forcing you to have VERY specific folder structure? Jellyfin can't scan folder deeper than 3 levels and obviously can't display them properly.
I swapped over to Jellyfin after watching this. I do like Plex, but I can't justify the cost for the 'pro features' as I won't use MOST of them. The one thing I really wanted is mobile phone streaming. With Plex I had to download the video from the NAS and then play it locally, now I don't need to, with Jellyfin it can stream for free from my NAS and I don't need a Plex Pass to do so. My NAS does come with some software to do this, but it's clunky and doesn't work well. Multiple users also is handy, my partner can now use this for her own playlists or whatever without logging in to my account, so all in all pretty good. The only thing I did notice is that Jellyfin works only from top level folders on the NAS, at least in my version and you need to give the user (it creates one) permissions to the folder so it can read/write. It does mention this during install, so I knew about this, but it's easy to miss if you're not paying attention
Which nas do you have? I had issues with permissions on Synology, but none on Asustor nas units...
Looks intuiging, but I purchased a PLEX lifetime pass years back, so no other fees - monthly or otherwise. I use it in/outside the home, via mobile, on my NAS, family has access, etc. - is there any reason to even look at Jellyfin in my case, as it doesn't seem likely...?
Plex is defiantly better
EMBY for me is the way forward! However I'm happy to try new platforms
EMBY has to many nag screens that takes the fun out of using it (So I don't)
@@hicobra does it?? Mines been really simple and straightforward!
@@Asgard2693 The are altered
versions of EMBY I've used that have no
nag screens and remember my settings
but when the is any updates it brakes it again.
@@hicobra I don't know what Nag screens you are referring to... I've used it for 2 years and it's been great no issues, I've flipped between paid and unpaid a few times but ultimately it's been phenomenal some times an update will come in and Bork remote play but I rarely use it so didn't bother with it.
I've been running Jellyfin alongside it for the last few weeks and although its based on Emby it's different enough to enjoy it.
@@Asgard2693 Had it on my NAS had it on my LG TV and after a bit the was a 20 second countdown nag timer between
videos it was faster to shutdown and open again on the free one but i had to stop using when i was doing my cardiovascular exercise videos.