Is the Toro 30" Turfmaster HDX a better Lawn mower than the TimeMaster?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- 30" TurfMaster® HDX
Cut more grass in fewer passes than ever before with the TurfMaster's wide 30" deck. You'll tackle hilly terrain and full bags of clippings with ease with a strong MV702 transmission. Every component from top to bottom is made for heavy use in rough conditions, from curbs and trailers to multiple operators. And you'll spend less time refueling with the large one-gallon gas tank. Not only is this mower built to last, it's also designed to give you the professional-quality cut your customers demand for even the most complex mowing jobs. And you can rest easy knowing that Toro stands behind its mowers with 1-year warranty. And as a Toro owner, you'll have access to nearly 3,000 servicing dealers across the U.S. and Canada ready to assist you. Count on it. Dimensions: 41" H x 32" W x 66" L (104.1 cm x 81.3 cm x 167.6 cm)
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When were you going to answer the question you presented in the title of the video? Or even discuss it at all???
Thats a great comment I did not even notice that until you pointed it out.
I might be talking outta my àśś but I'm pretty sure the turfmaster is a comercial grade timemaster but that's just my guess I know the biggest issue with the timemaster was the gas tank size.
I'll stick with my Timemaster 30. Much lighter, more comfortable. I'm solo and have a ton of hours on mine. If you have a crew, stick with good quality 21 or 22" mowers. You'll have less repairs and headaches. For me, the 30" is a true time saver being solo. Great video.
I have been wondering if the timemaster would be a better option for me. I only cut twice a week with about 550 cuts a season as I do other jobs. Thinkng that with a timemaster I can replace every year or every two years before any big issues come along.
@@temujinkhan6326 It will do you fine.
Used Timemaster 30" for the last 6 yrs for 20 lawns every 10 days. After the 3yr mark, there is a cascade of part failure besides the normal maintenance items like belts and cables, like wheel axle assembly, wheel height adjusters, handle bars snapping in half. Is the Turfmaster wear and tear on these parts the same or better? The cables seem to go quickly. I'd have extra of those on hand as well. Over those six years, about $1500 - $2000 has been spent on parts and maintenance items for the (2)Toro Timemasters. Having said all that, the Toro Timemaster has produced a superior cut that I'd assume would be the same for the Toro Turfmaster.
This is our go to unit. Our residential mowing crews are very productive with the HDX. We definitely had transmission issues until Toro upgraded the transmissions but a nice fix by them and no transmission issues since.
Toro just released the new Turfmaster HDX 22235 with the same Kohler CV224 Command Pro engine as the Scag SFC.
I bought two TimeMasters last week for our 70 weekly lawn cutting route. So far I love them.
Next is to build a tailgate/folding ramp to my F150 to roll them on and off the truck.
Check out the ramprack
You haven’t had any problems with running a time master for commercial use?
@@Abel3270 it yet, doing about 60 in town residential lawns.
I have bought a bunch of replacement parts, belts, cables and the idler pulley upgrade kits.
We scrape out the deck grass, sharpen the blades and change the oil weekly.
@@rawe63 So do you think it would be ok if I was doing only 15-20 yards a week? I currently use the honda hrx217
@@emmanuelgonzalez9602 They are overpriced might as well buy a small trailer. There is another guy who makes them saw him on youtube and he makes them for under 1000.
I'm interested in seeing what happens next season with the Scag 30-inch. It's a beast of a machine for sure but supposedly the first iteration had quite a few small problems.
Scag is well made, swivel wheels, revised model but 230 lbs. But the Turfmaster is so much lighter. I looked at the Ferris which can handle any turf. Reliability and light weight paired with good hill climbing, and pickup. That’s what I want.
PS I had a time master and it was horrible. Weak power and Everything broke. I should have gotten a commercial unit. Live and learn.
I am sure this is a good mower but I would definitely NOT decribe it as light !!! That is the main reason I went with the Time Master . I am a solo operator and take very good care of my equipment and it has held up very well !!!
Why doesn't Toro put castor wheels on the front of this mower?? Considering the weight of this mower it would make it so much easier to turn around!!
I just bought a TurfMaster with the Kohler engine today. It’s heavy, but it’s built to last. I use to run a 48” John Deer with what I called the pistol grip in 5th gear. I’m a 5’3” 120lb female.
Nice! Those pistol grips killed my wrist at one time haha. What state and city do you service?
@@LawnThumbs I’ve mowed lawns in Virginia and in Texas. I’m retired now, my stepdad passed away in March so I moved back to Virginia to help my mother out. The TurfMaster is to mow my mother’s lawn. Her 30 yrs old John Deer lawn tractor died. It’s hard to change mowing directions with a lawn tractor. Definitely not a zero turn.
Yeah those pistol grips sure gave me big forearms. lol
I just bought this mower. Quick question. I feel like I’m running behind it when I engage the self propel. You’re walking at a much better pace. Is there an adjustment I’m missing?
Una pregunta Freddy si la transmission empiesa a fallar cual seria la mejor obsion para remplasarla dado a los ploblemas de los primeros modelos, el modelo de mi maquina es año 2016 22210 s/n 316000113
I've sold my exmark 30 and now selling my toro hdx after one season. My guys complain that its to heavy when mowing 5 yards all next to each other around 5k sq ft. We went back to the 21 toro and they love it cus its super fast and light weight. They actually got done at the same time after timing them. The 30 is bulky when turning
Which toro 21" units do you have: Kawasaki or Kohler engine based ones?
@@joeraptor1 the kawasaki engine
@@walterrocha8764 I bought the Toro commercial 21" with the Kohler CV173 engine on it. I haven't been happy with it. It has no power compared to the Kawasaki engine. Dealer adjusted rpms to 3200 and made little difference as the mower doesn't generate enough lift. Starter cord broke at 80 hours and when the temperature drops to 10 degrees celsius or less, it takes 15-20 pulls to get the thing to start when it is cold. Definitely need to look at the kawasaki models next spring.
Excellent real life statement here!!!!. Because of the weight of these 30's(especially a 230lb scag) they beat up the crews and actually reduce productivity. I went with the YBravo Gen II 25" commercial FJ180 Fawasaki 130 lbs. not much heavier then a 21", just as manuverable, only $1400 bucks and the couple of extra inches does increase productivity.
I'm 62 years old and I just deal with it. It's definitely more efficient and saves me time.
I can't figure out how to open the side discharge chute.
The problem is the pulleys and tensioner under the cover. Debris accumulate constantly. You may as well run the darn thing without the cover and blow it off after every use. Only choice is to spend another 1500 or more for a different 30 inch like a Ferris.
Excellent video as always my man. You should have 10x the amount of subs
Awesome, thank you for sharing the knowledge! And 1 Million in revenue?? Wow! That is goals right there! Just my 3rd year here. Long ways to go. Congrats on your success :)
No problem and glad your doing this! Thank you! And we just did 2.1M last season but who’s counting 😂
@@LawnThumbs Love it! Entrepreneurship lifestyle baby! To more millions & adding value to people, cheers!
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@@LawnThumbs congratulations man. What can you recommend to build more clients? I’ve got about 20-25 now and looking to really expand this thing.
@@NoNew42offer more services.
So it has rear wheel self propel?
Thanks for sharing. Great info and review.
Very interesting that you haven't noticed much difference between the Kawasaki and Kohler engines. I bought a commercial Toro 21" in the spring with the Kohler Command Pro 173 cc engine. I have been really disappointed with the mower. It has no power compared to the Kawasaki FJ180v. My dealer adjusted the rpm to 3200 and it still seems to have trouble generating enough lift to give as good of a cut as you see with the Kawasaki engine. I also had a starter rope break at 80 hours and last month, when temperatures dropped to 10 degrees celsius and lower, it would take 15-20 pulls, on average, to get it started.
Kohler has the more powerful engine, Kawasaki is 173cc.
Is there a major difference between this and the ExMark s series 30in
Perhaps I missed it, but I don't believe the question in the title was addressed, much less answered.
I was just about to say the same thing
For that price, the 2022 Scag 30" is looking real good.
50lbs heavier then the new turfmaster(22235) that has the same engine as the Scag.
@@gls3894 true but that scag is going to easly out last the toro. From working in the city runing scags . As long as you keep up with them you can't stop them.
@@drumhead14 Yes Sir, Since my comment I have spoken to 3 crews that I've seen using the Scagg 30". All of them without fail say its a mulching machine and a beast of a mower even on 2 week cuts(majority of lawns in DFW area). The other thing they say is that its heavy and they have the youngsters running them....
Umm so where was the comparison? I was expecting pro cons using a time master vs a hex for commercial useage as the tittle implies
Am I really so much in the minority "looking for a very solid well built small (say 20") mower that is free of bells and whistles and agile" ? Anyone aware of a mower ticking these boxes? Need one for doing small banks or in and around tight spaces that doesn't need replacing halfway thru a season!
21” commercial toro mower. Built like a brick
I wish they had pneumatic tires on them or at least wider rubber tires as it is heavy and leaves ruts. Yes, the Kawasaki is not the strongest engine but it gets the job done.
Mind the air filter on the kawi engine
I use a 30 inch commercial just for jungles and when I come on the regular I use the time master to mow small grass clippings and move faster
I love my timemaster, it's lighter and much cheaper. I plan on upgrading in the end of next season but still won't buy the turfmaster imo
i agree with you
they all break......fix the timemaster....
5:12 I’ll put the description in the link below. That was funny.
Is it broke yet?
Haha no the turf masters never broke on me. I think I had them for about 2 years. Then I was able to trade them in back to the dealer and I was able to get great value for them. Like more than 50% and I used that money towards a 36” grandstand.
Cool👍
Waiting for the Electric version.
timmed blades=bad new when the belt for the blades go. if that happens then you need a belt, blades and spindles. great vid. id like to see a 36 or a 48 walk behind. oh and they should make it so those front wheels can steer instead of having to pivot the machine to turn. so damn heavy
I have both……the timemaster is underpowered
Exactly the same as a timemaster
No way 2500 :(
I got ferries fw15 Honda engine 390cc and with mulch kit cash $-2600
LOL 😂 it crazy 😜
Used I guess
Here in Tacoma at Ace Hardware it's $2850.
The ruts left behind suck big time. NEXT!
clickbaity title if I've ever seen one. no comparison with the timemaster at all.
Costs twice as much.
They didn't even mention the TimeMaster. A big Lawn Thumbs DOWN!
Come on man
Whirld
Two year old mower is now out of date, why wast time talking about history. Have toro not made anything better in two years.
Give me a ferris fw15 32-in hydro push mower.more money but way better than the exmark or Toro