Laura, Juror #4 in Lori Vallow Daybell's trial, speaks out and shares about her experience
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Laura, juror #4 in Lori Vallow Daybell's trial, sits down with EastIdahoNews.com reporter Nate Eaton to share her experience about serving on the jury. She shares details she has never shared before and opens up about the ordeal. Watch in the video player above.
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You can tell she does not take jury duty lightly. She was a good pick.
Dear Laura, I don't know if you'll read this, but I just want to say Thank You. The trauma you went through was not in vain, You brought Justice for those two Children. How many people can say that they brought Justice to this world? You did it. You are a Hero and an Angel.
Yes yes yes!!!!
I agree totally. Thank you Laura, both for doing your civic duty, and for sharing your experience. You’re an amazing young woman. 🇨🇦
Yes, Thank you Laura, so proud of you!! Justice Angel😇
Well said. You can hear how this trial affected her at the time and will have an impact on her for the rest of her life. Thank you Laura for your courage, honesty and for sharing your experience with us. I hope your life is filled with joy, love and peace surrounded by your loving family and friends.♥️
Thank you Nate for sensitively handling this interview.
I'd like to second the crap outta this entire comment. I couldn't agree more. I hope she is given the opportunity to come across this post. Bc there are literally thousands of people out there who want to say this to her and to ALL the jurors.
Her comment about seeing Chad in the trial...." hes a soulless man " hit said it all.
agreed. he is an empty vessel. showing absolutely no emotion, or shame, or reaction, to the evidence being presented. I think he is main of low intelligence, and no moral compass. The children were buried in his back yard, no response.
Amazing.
@@linneawhitaker1750 He wanted desperately to be a big shot. His siblings are successful and he was digging graves. He latched onto the coat tails of that other nutjob woman by writing her book. By taking a page from her book, he was able to tap the lonely, nutty LDS housewives. They're already primed for a cult by being raised in that religion. He bestowed his groupies with super natural powers which they ate with relish.
@@linneawhitaker1750 And from what I heard yesterday when their texts her read, he was just itching to get permission to give the children something to scream about 😮
I still can't get over just how awful he is and she is for so casually listening to that sort of talk.
Maybe Chad is a Zombie 😎😝
The fact that a juror said Alex Cox's death was no way natural causes, says everything.
It was. She doesn't know what she's talking about. He was a walking heart attack. His lungs were full of blood clots and has clogged arteries.
Yes SO AGREE. There are so many concoctions one can buy from middle America. Jungle goo joo not just the regular pharmaceutical lines sold cheap. I think since Alex did frequent visits down south that he had connections to people who knew which goo-joo broth would do whatever, ie cause death, and not be detected.
@@pinkpugginz Think you are one of the very few who believe that he died of natural causes.
Antifibrinolytic drugs can promote blood clotting. Txa is such a drug. It’s used to stop nosebleeds.
I don’t know how, but I think Alex probably figured out he had been used and that he couldn’t expect to be protected for long by the dangerous duo, and he took the coward’s way out. He may have thought he was escaping justice, only to be met by Ultimate Justice.
She is such a strong, ethical, & moral person. Thank God her Dad stepped up to support her. The impact on families is an issue I had not considered before this interview. Nate, I appreciate your humanity & professionalism.
Wonderful interview! Wonderful lady! I hung off every word. I kept thinking about Alex going off to Mexico and was so glad to hear her thoughts about his death. She
is an absolute darling 🇦🇺
agreed.
Agreed 💯
Laura is a juror of great integrity
💯 👍 agree
Was then not now, she is now a Chad daybell lover.. what mother would send a scumbag to death for killing you here kids... Not juror #4 if anyone knows this psychopath tell her husband to get as far away as possible from this psycho and her kids
@@user-kn2bs2eu1k I don’t understand what you are saying.
@@user-kn2bs2eu1kwtf are you talking about?
@@aaronmatheson9730it’s ok Aaron!! This phsyco has no idea what they are trying to say either!!! He is one of Chads fan boi’s , just let the troll be and let’s not feed them!!!
Nate, you are the best kind of journalist. So many interviews that I've watched, the journalist talks on and on instead of letting the other person speak. I appreciate that there's no sense of ego with you and that's commendable. Laura, I'm sure there's a level of vulnerability opening yourself up to talk about your experiences, thank you for being willing to do that.
Agree.
agree too!
Nate has a very natural flow about him that I enjoy.
@@ppw2393 I totally agree.
@@brightbleuwell said!
I’m on call for jury duty in our county, Laura convinced me that trying to make excuses isn’t fair and I willl do my duty if needed thank you Laura
Yeah, he doesn't care. I don't think he was delusional like Lori though. I don't understand why Chad thought he needed to kill the kids. I find it difficult to believe that he actually believed in those ideas and I'm thinking he is just a sadistic person who liked killing people. I also wonder if he's talked to Lori during all these years. I understand there are no jail calls, but maybe he talked on a personal phone somehow. They seem to be still married.
Since my 20s, I've gotten 5 jury summons. All but one settled out of court, and I was disappointed. Finally, a case went to court and I was chosen. It was a great experience, and I found that I was smarter than I'd thought. We, the jury, were commended for our sharp focus and seriousness. I'd love to do it again, but I no longer live in the U.S.
Yes, but if you think it would cause a ton of stress on you and your family it might be best to say no, and do civic service in another way. Though Laura and her father were heavily inconvenienced and were able to work it out, they were very fortunate it did. But no one knows the LONG TERM effects of such imposed duress. ONE CAN OFFER CIVIC SERVICE ANOTHER WAY, that is less deleterious on a person and loved ones.
Same
Why do it?
"I never knew them, but I loved them.". I think she expressed how so many of us have come to feel. So grateful to be able to watch this trial to hopefully see full justice done for J.J., Tylee & Tammy.
Court TV TH-cam channel is covering Chad Daybell’s trial.
I’ve always wondered how the trials affect the jurors and I didn’t realize how traumatic it would be. Thank you for sharing your story. Amazing interview!
You didn't realize that seeing pictures of dead kids was going to be traumatizing?
@@pinkpugginzLet’s all give each other some grace. Laura provided some much needed insight. 🙏✨
@@Nurturing2yes, well put! Giving Grace is paramount 🫶🏽
@@Nurturing2 💗
@@r1133rocco 💙
You deserve an award, sir, with your reporting from Hawaii. You broke open the case. You are asking Lori all these pertinent questions and exposing who she really is by the way she acted. Much respect sir.
Thank you so much Nate☺️
Amazing interview. Having served myself on a three week murder trial in 1995, I understand what she means about trauma - and the case I served didn’t even involve children. She’s a good woman.
God bless you! Thank you for your service & sacrifice!!! 🙏😇💫⚖️
Thank you for your service even if it was ‘95. I can’t imagine the pain it leaves on a person.
I don’t want to detract from this interview but I’ll say this: it opened my eyes to the justice system! There were things happening in jail with the defendant DURING the trial that we weren’t allowed to know. Had we known we might have given him a Murder 2 conviction instead of Manslaughter 1. And yes, deliberations are very intimate.
@@NikiGuerra-ft8is For Lauren, definitely pain. For me, more like cynicism. And unbelief that one human could do this to another. I learned much about humanity those three weeks.
This woman made an amazing sacrifice and I'm so glad she is recovering from the trauma of this trial. She felt more deeply for those children than their own mother.
What a wonderful, heartfelt woman. She’s wonderful and so sincere.
Love her ❤️. I wish her piece of mind, body and sole! 🙏🏽
And well spoken
I can't tell you how proud I am of Laura.
What a very humble gracious lady. Bless her and her family.
Nate, proud of you as well. I Will forever remember you in Hawaii asking the infamous " Where are your children". Thank you for professional journalism.
Bless you and your family.
Congratulations to your little guy graduating.
E X A C T L Y this. Thanks for articulating it so well.
@@BobbiGail Thank you
I really appreciate how authentically this juror responded to your interview. I admire her bravery both serving as a juror during the trial and sharing her story now.
Laura, you are a woman of high integrity. Thank you for all you did.
I "hung on every word" of this interview. Never fast forwarded once and I wanted to hear more! FASCINATING! A must watch for whomever is invested in this trial!
Juror #4, sincere gratitude for serving as a juror and being part of our justice system, as incredibly painful and emotional it must have been. Prayers and blessings for your healing and happiness. 🙏🏿🌅
She was Juror No. 4, not 6.
Juror 4
Hope my kind thoughts are not tarnished by wrong number
@@annfisher3316 I think you can edit comment by clicking on the 3 dots to the right of the comment.
@@LynnD584 Thanks, l was being sarcastic to the perfect people out there 🥱 fixed it
Thank you so much Juror #4 for sharing and helping us understand what it is like. Thank you for serving on the jury. It never hit me that PTSD could be a result of being a juror and how in some ways it could deeply change who you are.
It does leave a lasting impact on a person.
This interview was WONDERFUL!!! Thank you
Laura - sending you heartfelt greetings from Zimbabwe 🇿🇼. I am a mother of 2 sons (now adult), and I just want to say how much I admire your emotional intelligence, calmness and inner strength. Bless you young lady! Imagine the world if it was full of people like you. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
She is amazing! She is exactly who you would want on the jury. She is considerate, respectful and fair. She’s honest and I really like her and I really respect her. I would love to give her a big hug and thank her ❤
Nate, I’ve been following you and this story since the beginning but this is the first time I’ve felt compelled to comment. This interview with Laura, juror 4 in the Lori Daybell trial, is a powerful testament to our jury system. While it’s the attorneys, judge and even the accused who seem to be in the limelight all the time, it is actually the unseen and unsung jury who are the real stars, heroes really. Giving up their own lives for as long as it takes. Thanks for giving me so much to think about and appreciate about American justice.
Great interview. Your integrity, compassion, and professionalism are something every reporter should have. We need more reporters like you. This juror is what every attorney wants to have. Clear minded, albeit emotional- with due cause, and yet still held her judgment until the end. Thank you for serving and giving up your time w/ your family.
Thank you, Laura for putting yourself out there & letting us know your perspective as a juror! As a private person not wanting to be in the spotlight it would be a challenge to be in that position! You did such a good job but more than that, you are a good person. I’m glad to see a person who was on the jury, it gave me hope about how the whole system works. Thank you for your sacrifice- of time & emotional well-being to do the job that you didn’t want to do but needed to be done. Much respect!
Yes, I concur, thank you Laura!!!
@lorievans you said everything I feel as well. Thank you for putting it to words🥹
As a granñy far across the ocean, i salute your work on the jury Laura! Thank you, and thank you Nate for this soulful interview. 🇿🇦💜
I am so grateful for Laura’s (#4) honest conversation with you Nate! She has so much to share and she gave us a gift by doing so. Our world is better because of caring people like her❤️
Thank you Laura for sharing your experience with us. It's fascinating to hear the behind the scenes.
This lady is amazing! She sounds like she's fair, smart and really paid attention to everything. She's the type of person you'd want as a friend. Excellent interview, Nate!
You really couldn't ask for a better individual to be a juror. Well done, Laura. We all appreciate everything you did and endured.
Thank you Laura for being emotionally available to share your experience in this interview. Thank you for your service on that jury.
Nate - thank you for your professionalism and diligence throughout this case.
The best interview I've ever watched. I felt Laura's honesty as she answered questions.
Laura, you are a warrior!
What a powerful interview! As a retired trauma chaplain, I have great compassion for anyone who's experienced the day-to-day horror of what Chad & Lori did.
Thank you Laura for sharing your story. I can't imagine the horror you must have felt seeing what you were shown. Civic duty is difficult and often thankless. So thank you for performing your duty and doing it with thought and consideration.
Thank you Nate for arranging and doing this interview.
Hugs from 🇨🇦
I just want to thank all the jurors for their service. No one really understands the hard thing serving is in a case like this.
Laura is the type of person who should be on every jury. Intelligent, articulate, thoughtful. 😍🇨🇦
Great perspective of the Lori Daybell trial. I am still praying for her jury. I am proud of their effort and I agree with their verdict.
Her name is Vallow NOT Daybell.
I really appreciated this interview and hearing the insights from a juror who was involved in this case. I think we all struggle to comprehend what other humans are capable of. It’s so far from what we would believe is even possible so it is intriguing.
Shout out to her dog - most well behaved pup during an interview
I was thinking the same thing!! Being such a good dog!
Something so soothing about her. Her voice and everything. She has a warmth to her. I bet she’s a wonderful mother.
She has an annoying California uptake to her voice.
@@reneesantiago6496Aren’t you just a little ray of sunshine? Everything you post is negative.
@@gsmith6026 We all have a right to our opinion, likes and dislikes, and I personally don’t like that California uptake of talking.
Great interview. Thank you, Laura! And thank you Nate and East Idaho News!
There is no better interviewer in this country, and there is no better journalist in this country.
Nate is a fantastic journalist! He is so real and has a great ability to put people at ease because he is real/genuine. We need more journalists like Nate!
He is wonderful. But I have add David Muir to the list. He honed his skills in Upstate NY, as a teen... journalism is his destiny as well.
Great interview and welcomed her perspective.
You’re an effective interviewer Nate and watching the cute dog was a plus.
The dog was an extra bonus!
He’s king of the yard. So cute walking around and then sitting with his back to his mom guarding them all. Great dog !!
Nate, this interview is unbelievable thank you! Juror #4 is excellent in educating all of us on what happens being a juror, thank you!
Laura has still got PTSD. I hope she is getting the help she needs. Amazing interview Nate. Laura exudes how we all feel. Such a beautiful human being. 🩷
She truly is the perfect juror. What a level headed lovely lady. 😊
Thank you, Laura, for your respectful attitude towards the process and the people who had to put this terrible story together so that you 17 people could make sense of it and feel that you knew the right thing to do. You seem such a gentle woman, rather self-effacing, yet you took this on, horrors and all. I feel great respect for you and the others. I'm glad you spoke about this, quietly in the garden, with living things all around you and your tea in your lap, rather than in a studio. Be well.
Thank you for serving on that jury. I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts and behind the scenes insights.
19:26- 20:05 OMG I suddenly started crying hearing this. I gave a 2YO CPR after she had just been pulled from an irrigation canal in 2002 in Madison County and those words and feelings about “doing a job” and then having everything hit you afterwards, brought back memories of me finishing my bicycle ride home the half mile (after ambulance and police reports, etc.) and THEN …. smelling throw up, adrenaline or whatever coming down, and by the time I was home I was in complete sobs. I so needed to complete that full cycle, the body can do it if we are in a place to allow the process. Yes, the child survived. I even received a heroism award from Madison County Sheriff’s Office along with the gentleman who pulled the child from the water, attorney Josh Garner, but I wouldn’t speak of it…. rarely, until the last 5-6 years, it was too intimate of playing a part in someone’s life/death.
Now, as for longer trauma…. wish me luck, I’m recently out of college AA, and my goal is to give myself time to heal, to retrain myself and my body that I’m safe and don’t need to live a life of fight or flight (that I’ve been doing since divorce 10 yrs ago. It was harder than I thought, I gave up so much security, but I’m good now, just gotta let my mind/body get that message! 💝
All my love, gratitude and best wishes to you, Laura. Thank you for sharing. (TY Nate, too.)
🫶🏽to you dear person!
Me too. I really appreciate your story and your care for that child.
Thank you for sharing your story, your love, and your gratitude. Prayers and healing faith are heading your way. You are a hero for saving that baby's life. I would've froze up seeing a 2-year-old like that. You got this. I went through life in the fight or flight mode and drank every single day for almost 30 years. I'll be 44 in a couple of weeks and I've been sober now for 5 years and 11 months. Just taking it 1 day at a time. God bless you, babe. ❤🫶🏽
Interesting interview. I think the town hall thing is a good idea Nate. We need to hear from more people after trials.
Praying Larry Woodcock makes it through Loris Arizona trial.
Is something wrong with Larry, health wise.
@@ainokea911 not that I know of. It's just that after Covid, there seems to be a rise in heart attacks and strokes. Not saying at all its the vaccine. Or not being vaccinated etc. I lost count at like 12 people I know dying or having a bad stroke in the last 2 years. Including my dad, and my wife's dad. Our daughters father in law 3 days ago. All the stress and traveling could take a toll. Lori might not go to trial for another year. I'd be surprised if she goes to trial this year. I hope so and hope all the court stuff will be over for Kay & Larry. My dad was only 72 BTW. And traveled a lot from Washington state to Arizona.
@@GeneSawyer People that had underline conditions it affected them. My husband and I took the Pfizer but not until the very end. I was concerned because so many dying. I said I'll wait, my husband didn't want to take it. I had friends that didnt take it. Now the education system kindergarten up has to take the shot. I guess that's the requirement.😪 Sorry to hear about your Dad, your wife's dad and your daughters father-in-law. 😪😪😪
So 3 now out of 17 from Lori's trial. I sure wish more would speak out, even anonymously.
Who was the third one? This was only the second interview I've seen of a juror. First one was shortly after Lori's trial that Nate almost got into trouble for... at least they were trying to create trouble.
@@loveforeignaccentsthere has been 3….this woman a man named Tom and then another male from a year ago right from this channel and Nate
@@tiffanieoverby7803 Yes, I had happened to come across Tom's interview as well this evening. Thank you. I saw another comment about it on another thread prior to this one, and that person was referring to "multiple juror interviews w/Nate". I think there were only the two with Nate and then Tom's with someone else other than Nate.
Amazing (I know that word is so overused, but I can’t think of another right now) testimony. With all that is going on in the country and the world right now, it’s so refreshing to hear from real people like Laura who still believe in and put into practice what is best about America. God bless you, Laura. Thanks Nate for bringing her to us.
Being thoughtful, honest, kind and responsible isn't what's best about America. It's what is best about being human.
Laura reminds us how deeply jurors are effected by trials of violent murders. God Bless you dear lady.
Laura is such an amazing person! Sounds like the whole jury in Lori’s case really did their job!
Nate, you are an amazing man and journalist for sacrificing 4 + years of your life in following this case.
Such an insightful interview…..Greatest appreciation for both of you!!
I just hope the jurors in Chad’s case are just as good.
Thank you to both of you for being part of this timeline.
I felt deeply for the jurors in that trial, amd this one… immensely! I now know we don’t even fathom the pain and trauma they carried throughout this process. Thank you, to the jurors will never be enough. I send my prayers for peace and comfort. Trauma never leaves you, and I can’t imagine having to see those images of those precious children, but thank God, there werent more children murdered by these evil beings!
Thank you Nate, and EIN for always bringing us pure interviews, with an ability by those interviewed to express how they feel and see things, without interruption constantly! My favorite news source period!
What an amazing interview ! It just shows what an empathetic person Nate is because he was able to put Laura at ease and encourage her share all these emotions and feelings.
I’m so glad she got the necessary counselling and that it worked for her.
What a beautiful, beautiful spirit she has. There’s something so intrinsically good about her.
Great juror! Thank you for your sacrifice in serving on this difficult jury. I love the dog in the background. So well behaved!
Thank you both for this interview. She is so steady and reflective; glad she is out there in the world being a good person. Nate, as usual, you are solid and kind.
Thank you for what you did, what you were a part of. The horror of this dissaster I believe will affect all of you the rest of your lives. Please take care of your mental health.
Laura if you read this comment I want to thank you for your service as a juror on what was a case that would take its toll on anyone, but especially a mother. I am so glad that you had your Father to help you with your sons when your husband was traveling for work. I don't know how I would have handled seeing the photos that you saw. I have seen a therapist who practices EMDR and I found it helpful for me as well.
Thank you for sitting down with Nate and sharing your account of your time as juror #4. I wish you well. Hopefully, this current trial will wrap up soon and we can all relax for a bit until Charles's trial.
I'm currently following another trial out of Boston right now (I am a bit of a law nerd) and I agree wholeheartedly, that the system is broken. I think that the defendant was set up by the local PD, as do many people. It's crazy. But I digress, the topic is the Vallow Daybell trial. I also agree that there is something suspicious about Alex’s death. I doubt that they ran a toxicology report to search for drugs that could mimic or cause a heart attack or aneurysm. I forget exactly what it was they said he passed away from. The timing of his death is just too convenient for Lro and Chad Unfortunately, he was cremated so there is no way we will ever know the truth.
Alex supposedly died from pulmonary embolism. I bet there are drugs or poisons or even a plant that will cause blood clots and don’t show up in autopsies, in fact I am sure there are.
Great interview. I had never considered how this effects a juror. She's so genuine. 🔥
I appreciate Laura sharing her story.
What an excellent interview! Thank you, Laura, for sharing your insights with us. Your thoughts were so well articulated and balanced. Thank you for honoring JJ and Tylee. Wishing you full healing 🙏🏻
Thank you Nate and Laura. I'm crying about all this. I feel for her and all the jury members. ✨🥺❤️
This is AN AMAZING INTERVIEW
you might learn from it
For what it's worth
😩🕊️⚖️
Thank you Nate
I want to compliment Nate Eaton on this interview. So informative, with excellent questions asked, chosen from questions sent in by viewers. I think it should be entered for an award. Thank you very much.
Fantastic interview. Thank you.
I agree that Judge Boyce is amazing. I think the way he handled the indictment clerical error was perfect. He beat John Prior to the punch, and I think he's done everything possible to make sure any appeal will be unsuccessful, in both Chad's trial as well as Lori's.
This is the best juror interview I've ever watched. What a warm, kind, candid, and gracious person this lady is. Thank you for sharing.
Great interview. Thank you both.
I think her bond with fellow jurors could be similar to soldiers who had been in battle together.
Laura, thank you for speaking and answering questions. You truly are amazing! Now is time for you to heal from what you went thru. Seek comfort among your juror friends, talk about your feelings whether you think they are related to that experience or not. Let yourself experience what you are feeling but do not isolate yourself. I have no doubt that if needed Nate and his wife will always be available for you. Yes, Nate is a professional but he's shown thru the years he too has been affected. Lean on those you now know and trust. A simple "thank you" doesn't suffice for what you did. I pray you continue to heal and know you are NOT alone!
Love ❤️ the interview with Laura and watching her amazing dog entertain itself, too. ❤️🐾❤️🐾❤️🐾❤️🐾
Thank you ❤️
😂 I was watching her dog as well. So cute and so like a dog!❤🐕
GREAT interview Laura and Nate
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺🦘
I cried for Kay and Larry last night long after we knew everything was fine. They’re tired.. they’ve been dragged through hell. It was a cruel moment. But I’m so glad it worked out for the best.
Thank you Laura for being you. I think you are such a strong woman of integrity! God bless you.
This was an excellent interview. Thank you, Laura for your service 🙏🏻
What a great, honest, fair woman! Thank you for your example to many in how to be a great human!!!
Laura, thank you for your service to our judicial system! I wish you all your fellow jurors all the best! 💖💖
These are important interviews with jurors. Thank you.
Such a good interview! Thank you both.
Hello, Nate, from sunny Florida. What a wonderful interview! Laura’s kindness is palpable; living near her and being a friend with her would be amazing.
What a great interview. What a great juror. Thank you Nate and thank you Juror #4.
She was Juror No. 4.
Terrific interview and insight into what a juror feels and how they go through such a horrific trial. I admire and greatly respect Laura. Very compassionate interview Nate.
Laura Thankyou for just being you .your comment on chad saying he is aye Soulless man was aye very profound statement.much respect to you for your bravery to be interviewed by Nate .
Lovely interview. Our world is a better place, as I understand it, because of Laura’s commitment to honoring our judicial processes. Thank you for your work, Nate - and Laura, thank you for your service.
She mentions Kay and Larry in the first minute. ❤❤❤
Truly “America’s Grandparents.” We love then both. Yesterday, I fell apart thinking there was going to be mistrial and these two dear people would have to yet wait even longer broke me. Thank God, our judicial system came through.
Great interview, Nate! Laura is a kind, honest, up front person, and gives straight answers. I love this video. Thank you, both! A beautiful yard, and the cutest dog , roaming around! 🙏🦋🙏🦋🙏🦋
God bless you Nate and Laura. I'm crying again over children I didn't know but who deserved all the best in life. Rest in Peace JJ, Tylee, Charles and Tammy
Nate, excellence in journalism, AGAIN! Thank you
She is a very smart, well spoken woman. She has tremendous integrity and regard for humanity and justice. Thank you for your service. 💗
Wonderful interview, Laura is such a kind woman and I very much appreciate this ❤️
Thank you so much for your sacrifice, Laura. And thank you Nate, for staying at the top of the top of everything with this case from day 1! I can't believe it's almost at a resolution (if that's at all possible).
Thank you Laura for this amazing interview May you evevtually find peace in your heart.Nate as always was so kind and considerate in this interview. Blessings to you both .
I cried when judge Boyce told her that. What a great man.
Excellent interview! So interesting to hear what she went through in the trial! Laura did wonderful. Great job Nate!!!