You are absolutely right. There are absolutely too many absolutelies in this absolutely awesome video. You are absolutely "that guy"for pointing that out.
2 points: 1. I'm not sure you're C class anymore. When we can't tell the difference between you and AJ from a distance! And 2: Really missed you in the moto Academy! You and AJ had next level synergy.
Mid pack c class that’s great. Story of my life hahaha. Awesome video wish I could afford one at the moment. My YZ250 2 smoker will do until I can. Great video cam !
One of the best traits with Yamaha is they track better allowing you to carry speed. Especially on chop heading up to large jump faces, and with deceleration bumps into turns. Also lean angle bumps coming out of turns. No bike will track like a yz
Shout-out CameraManCam! Great video. I tried to switch to the YZ250f for 2024 too but all the dealerships would not budge on their price. So I stuck with Kawasaki and got the new KX for 2/3rds what the YZ was being quoted.
Thanks for the C class review. That's likely more useful to more people than an A class or pro review. Also...I suspect many A class riders in YT comments are C class riders in real life 😂
Super great review. Most realistic I feel for a lot of people. I’ve been hearing the same thing over and over again and that’s picking your favorite color because the new bikes are just that good. I think all of them lack something and you will have to personalize these bikes no matter what but my heart is still set on a YZ250F. Hope to buy one in the next coming years.
As a taller guy, gripping is difficult. My boot gets hung on the frame every once in a while. It makes you sit on the tank to ride it which is amazing. Once you get the right map on it, it barks. I hated the map from the factory and switched to a passive/aggressive map. Ive been in love with it after i figured the app out.
Pipe, ecu mapping, a mild porting and head work with good fuel will make it just as good as anything on the market in terms of power.. and porting and head work isn't very expensive, exhaust isnt too outrageous if you don't go with titanium or find a dentless used system, just repack the slip on. It turns great but I don't like the suspension, the shock in particular but it can be changed.
I have the same gripping the bike problem with my brand new '23 YZ250 2 stroke, since they narrowed the bike. I don't get arm pump on my older YZ450 (It's wider), so looking for ways to fatten the mid section of the bike. I am now going to try Steg Pegs to help grip with my legs.
I'm a beginner thinking of switching from street to mx/dirt riding. Do you think this is a better option than the new 150 SX? I just want something thats gonna work and be super reliable.
need more info to suggest answers. like how long might it take to put 100 hrs on a dirt bike. cuz if only two years, than know the 150 will be so much cheaper and easier to maintain. next, are you thinking of riding tighter trails where you seldom get to 4th gear?... if so the 150 will be happier in that condition as well as feeling way lighter when changing directions quickly. are there big hills in your area that you can hit at high speeds? is there soft or sandy soil that can be deep and boggy? then you may prefer a 250F as they last longer in high load conditions like sand and mud. a 125 or 150 that's always using full power in sand will loose power in only 20 hours and need a top end rebuild to freshen it up. the 150 is a nice step up from a 125 and is easier to ride, but best not to limit yourself to a Euro brand to get a 150. the YZ2125 is a great bike to learn on. it's quick if you keep the revs up and is friendly for beginners. consider buying any old used 125 to get a taste for what you want without spending so much. then while out riding, try some buddy's bikes and see how you like modern 4 strokes. just don't get a 450. it's not good for beginners. but the better answer to all the above, is neither... get a trail bike with old school 4 stroke power like a TTR230 or CRF230. if you are under 5.8' and really want the best start in the off road experience, make it the Kawasaki KLR140RF with its 18/21" wheels. its cheap brand new and is way more fun than most bikes if the trails are fairly smooth and a little bit tight, because its low and light and super easy to pick up, but still capable for an adult. once you get used to the dirt then go back to this question of what to get in terms of more performance. it's about having fun and being happy, not feeling cool and trying to fit the mold.
Actually a fantastic review full stop. Real world views 👌🏻 One thing though (not sure about 2024) but check out your manual. I'm sure the suspension comes with 'packing' oil and the manual states to have it serviced after 5hrs? I had mine done at 20hrs and the guy said any longer and my shock body would've been toast. There was just foam left in there! Bike is night and day better now!
I'm 6'2 on a '23 YZ250F, going to go with the Works Connection lowered peg mounts. They come in aluminum or Ti, not sure if they'll stick out like stock though?
I agree with the skinny feeling but I've gotten used to it and past the arm pump on my 23 YZ450f. I moved the bars to the rear mount with the clamp in the forward position, feels a lot better for me and I am 6'2". I do have to wear earplugs with this bike or I get a splitting headache by the end of the day.
Absolutely: Said 5 TIMES, (one or two were "Absolute") Try an older year footpegmount, Or grind that top portion down as low as the teeth of the pegs. Then triangular metal rasp each tooth both sides to make en nice and sharp. And If u want to sell her or trade for a kawi keep us in the loop
10k? F off with that BS! I paid $7500 for my 22 kx450 OTD. I wouldn't buy a Yamaha just because Brian Deegans a POS. Specifically what he did at Lorettas last year.
Good point ts, have the 450 2023 but still my favorite. The pegs and the contact part of the kneews are really where it need improvement. The 450 isn’t that loud but the 250 yes.
Good one! Like you say, in 2024 most of bikes is very solid. Did go for the yz250f this year and works solid. Did put a Yoshi R12 on qucik tho and sounds very very nice. ( but i like hard/loud) :)
I'm B fast and let me tell you, when you start hitting rutted corners with stock suspension and weighing north of 200lbs, you're going to need to replace your stock suspension, I went with racetech. With stock suspension, I was feeling everything and bottoming out on with nearly any air/speed.
good catch on the footpeg mounts! That's actually a big deal to me as I'm taller and the one of the reasons for staying on yamaha for my next bike is that the rider triangle is supposedly better for taller riders so higher footpeg platform not really appealing. I don't really worry about loss of low end as I don't really like arm jerking torque rolling through corners. It would be cool if you could do a follow up on using the mapping. The other thing I'm really curious about is how much engine braking can be tuned out rolling through corners. Great review!
Yamaha notoriously builds bikes with small rider triangles. This bikes no different. It’s better than the old chassis but it’s still cramped for big guys. I’m 6’2 and every single mod I’ve had to do has been related to rider triangle. -5 -5 ti pegs, bars. It needs a wing seat, idk what to do about footpeg mounts yet but -5 -5 helped.
@@user-mo8tm4jw2l Yeah same height. I ride a 2017. I wonder if there are specs for which bike has biggest riders triangle. I'm thinking ktm might be better?
@@JimG1964 ktms and hondas are built for big guys, ktm specifically needed nothing. Been a while since ive personally set a red bike up for me but ive ridden them and they are built for tall guys too. The rest of the manufacturers tend to fit 5'9-5'10 guys perfect stock. Yamaha being the best of the bunch now after the changes they made but its still a bit tight stock for stock. for reference, i also own ktms and huskies.
Not only is the bike loud but it’s not even a good loud. It sounds like crap!!! I put a PC pipe on mine and it helped a little. It also doesn’t help that the air filter is right in your lap so it intensifies the sound even more. Honestly I don’t know that I’d own another bike. It’s the only bike I’ve ever owned as a adult so I have nothing to compare it to. I love it.
All reasonably fair assessments. As a smaller rider, I don’t really notice how difficult it is to actually squeeze with your knees, but I can see it being a problem for bigger guys. My last three bikes have been KTM group with the most recent being the 23’ generation…this YZ dollar-for-dollar is a better value compared to them. You’ll pay 2k more and will be left wanting to drop another $1,000 for suspension.
Every ktm I own ended up with kyb conversions and highly worked shocks or kit shocks and kit forks. I love the 22 chassis 4 strokes and I love my 19 tx 300 (carb model) but it requires kit suspension for me to be able to keep the same pace as anything blue. Lol. I sold my fc450. Kept my 2ts and bought a yamaha for my moto bike, kept my 300 for my worcs bike. 😂😂😂 Sometimes the wallet and your choice in suspension dictates what bike you buy 😂😂. I figured with what kit suspension would cost me I can fix anything “wrong” with the Yamaha.
For real. Like others said in the comment thread too, for anyone other than fast intermediate/A/Pro-Expert, just go ahead and pick which color plastic you like best because it’s not likely you’ll shave 20 seconds off a lap time going from one to another. Suspension-wise though, it’s hard to beat the blue ones as their baseline setting works really well across multiple skill levels and terrain.
I absolutely love mine. I’m soo glad I got one. I got the Flo foot pegs and there is now no problem with the feet. Winged seat as well. Love it! Came from a 22 crf250r. This Yamaha motor is much more powerful
Don’t listen to this guy about the air filter! 😂 it’s very secure and you can see the pressure it puts on the filter. Pegs mounts are fine I have no problems with them and none of my friends have problems nor my son who is a C rider. The 25 yz they did change it so you can order mounts.. seat is fine but too each is their own. Older Kawasaki were just as loud if not louder. I had one and at the track I hear some that are louder. He complains about price?!! Try a Ktm is 2 grand more.😂😂 my son got his 24 yz250f for $9000 otd.. my 24 was a bit more cause I got the anniversary. Also I rode other 24 yz250f’s and some are different. Some have really good bottom and others a tad less. I put a Stevie map in mine and absolutely love it..
It’s really annoying that no matter what bike yku get you have to invest money into it to make it work…10k dirt bike and yku are going to spend $400 at least just to be able to grip it properly.
See I im a shorter guy at 5’6 and the foot pegs and seat don’t bother me Also was $10,200 after tax and dealer fees???!!! I got my 24 50th anniversary edition for about $10,800 before down payment
Thick bike=easier grab and less effort. Thin bikes can make your lower body work less efficiently because of your knee placement to your feet. Kawis suck to ride for me now because of my 23 yz250f
extra loud or not, everyone needs to be wearing ear plus when on any dirt bike. you will have less stress, ride faster and... wont go deaf. find an ear plug that is firm and does not bother your ears (practice when not riding to make sure they don't itch or bother). the key to ear plugs is to put them way way in, let it set a minute, them tug them out to where its more comfortable and you can still hear a bit more. it's about 1/3 back out. cut off the outer 20% of any ear plug you use in in a helmet. if they stick out they will catch on the helmet and drive you crazy or fall out. if your worried about hearing other bikes, dont worry. you can actually hear other sounds better with ear plugs in. just make sure they are not all the way in. you are trying to reduce the sound a bit, but not get the full 29db noise reduction of the plug. lastly, if you ride in the hills and change elevation quickly, you will need to get music stage ear plugs. they are vented and will allow for the pressure changes. unfortunately if they are too long they wont work, cuz they cant be clipped off.
Wait til you ride behind one with an fmf pipe. The stock mufflers fairly quiet. Damn Yamahas obnoxiously loud lol that’s for sure. Earplugs are a must. I came off ktms. It is a bummer to have to buy stuff but ya know what it could be worse. Could be a ktm and you could need kit suspension to get the bike to feel anywhere near as good as the kyb stuff on that 250. Each bike has its things they need. Try -5 -5 pegs. Helped my arm pump @6’2. helps your knees move to a spot they can grip a bit better and opens the rider triangle for a larger guy. I run a 999 bend bar. Forward mount flipped rear. Probably doing a wing seat myself soon I run them on everything else. Lol. Also grip tape is your friend. That’s helped a lot with staying in the correct position on the bike.
Air filter and gas tank setup is such garbage, pipe sounds like absolute shit, timing chain goes to shit in less than 40 hours. Stock suspension is unbeatable other than that it’s a shit box.
@@gw4717 terrible front forks Thoe the motor is probably better than the new yzs but most 14 to 18 250fs yz get well over 100 hours when they went electric start seem to be the issues
How many times did I say "Absolutely" in this video?
too many but ur cam so its okay
About as many times that Deegan says "Defiantly" in an interview.
You are absolutely right. There are absolutely too many absolutelies in this absolutely awesome video. You are absolutely "that guy"for pointing that out.
Was there any oil on your Air Filter? Very critical and just wanted to make sure you were aware.
2 points: 1. I'm not sure you're C class anymore. When we can't tell the difference between you and AJ from a distance! And 2: Really missed you in the moto Academy! You and AJ had next level synergy.
Mid pack c class that’s great. Story of my life hahaha. Awesome video wish I could afford one at the moment. My YZ250 2 smoker will do until I can. Great video cam !
Yamaha changed the foot peg mount on the 2025 YZ 250/450 f … they now have a cutout so you have your foot right next to the frame
I feel you on the seat issue. I’m only 5 foot 10 and I’m about to buy a wing seat for my 23 250F. Such a pain to grip with my knees
I have a 23' and got the wing seat. You'll love it! Breaks in after a few hours of riding too. I love it!
One of the best traits with Yamaha is they track better allowing you to carry speed. Especially on chop heading up to large jump faces, and with deceleration bumps into turns. Also lean angle bumps coming out of turns. No bike will track like a yz
Shout-out CameraManCam! Great video. I tried to switch to the YZ250f for 2024 too but all the dealerships would not budge on their price. So I stuck with Kawasaki and got the new KX for 2/3rds what the YZ was being quoted.
The clips you rolled in of you riding looked like you’re knocking on B class door to me! Thanks for the honest feedback!
Thanks for the C class review. That's likely more useful to more people than an A class or pro review. Also...I suspect many A class riders in YT comments are C class riders in real life 😂
Super great review. Most realistic I feel for a lot of people. I’ve been hearing the same thing over and over again and that’s picking your favorite color because the new bikes are just that good. I think all of them lack something and you will have to personalize these bikes no matter what but my heart is still set on a YZ250F. Hope to buy one in the next coming years.
that's why I love my yz250FX... best bike at age 65
Grind the top of the mount. My 19 is similar. i tried the works mounts and I still had to grind them down.
Bro doesn’t cease to bring fire content every video 🔥
hey what did you do to fix the foot pegs mount ?
As a taller guy, gripping is difficult. My boot gets hung on the frame every once in a while. It makes you sit on the tank to ride it which is amazing. Once you get the right map on it, it barks. I hated the map from the factory and switched to a passive/aggressive map. Ive been in love with it after i figured the app out.
Best review I've ever seen! Kudos man, thanks for giving an unbiased review!!
Hi did you fix the problem with the ridiculously large footpeg brackets?? I have a new Yamaha 450 and it’s a major problem for me. Thank you
Suzuki still takes the cake for me. For us average riders that may not get out as often. Not having to worry about batteries is a huge plus.
Pipe, ecu mapping, a mild porting and head work with good fuel will make it just as good as anything on the market in terms of power.. and porting and head work isn't very expensive, exhaust isnt too outrageous if you don't go with titanium or find a dentless used system, just repack the slip on. It turns great but I don't like the suspension, the shock in particular but it can be changed.
If they had just the electric start I’d buy one. I’m also old. IM NOT KICK STARTING MY DIRT BIKE!
@@BrianLatimerFishing 500 2 stroke is way outta the question for you then huh🤣
Lmao ..that's funny
@@yamahakid450fdon’t forget suspension, stock Suzuki suspension settings are unrideable
Was there any oil on your Air Filter? Very critical and just wanted to make sure you were aware.
I have the same gripping the bike problem with my brand new '23 YZ250 2 stroke, since they narrowed the bike. I don't get arm pump on my older YZ450 (It's wider), so looking for ways to fatten the mid section of the bike. I am now going to try Steg Pegs to help grip with my legs.
Bigger knee pads
I almost got a Yamaha so glad I didn't got anew Husqvarna fc 350 and won't ever ride anything else now so good
I'm a beginner thinking of switching from street to mx/dirt riding. Do you think this is a better option than the new 150 SX? I just want something thats gonna work and be super reliable.
need more info to suggest answers. like how long might it take to put 100 hrs on a dirt bike. cuz if only two years, than know the 150 will be so much cheaper and easier to maintain. next, are you thinking of riding tighter trails where you seldom get to 4th gear?... if so the 150 will be happier in that condition as well as feeling way lighter when changing directions quickly. are there big hills in your area that you can hit at high speeds? is there soft or sandy soil that can be deep and boggy? then you may prefer a 250F as they last longer in high load conditions like sand and mud. a 125 or 150 that's always using full power in sand will loose power in only 20 hours and need a top end rebuild to freshen it up.
the 150 is a nice step up from a 125 and is easier to ride, but best not to limit yourself to a Euro brand to get a 150. the YZ2125 is a great bike to learn on. it's quick if you keep the revs up and is friendly for beginners. consider buying any old used 125 to get a taste for what you want without spending so much. then while out riding, try some buddy's bikes and see how you like modern 4 strokes. just don't get a 450. it's not good for beginners.
but the better answer to all the above, is neither... get a trail bike with old school 4 stroke power like a TTR230 or CRF230. if you are under 5.8' and really want the best start in the off road experience, make it the Kawasaki KLR140RF with its 18/21" wheels. its cheap brand new and is way more fun than most bikes if the trails are fairly smooth and a little bit tight, because its low and light and super easy to pick up, but still capable for an adult. once you get used to the dirt then go back to this question of what to get in terms of more performance. it's about having fun and being happy, not feeling cool and trying to fit the mold.
Actually a fantastic review full stop. Real world views 👌🏻
One thing though (not sure about 2024) but check out your manual. I'm sure the suspension comes with 'packing' oil and the manual states to have it serviced after 5hrs? I had mine done at 20hrs and the guy said any longer and my shock body would've been toast. There was just foam left in there! Bike is night and day better now!
you can get taller footpegs or get different mounts
I'm 6'2 on a '23 YZ250F, going to go with the Works Connection lowered peg mounts. They come in aluminum or Ti, not sure if they'll stick out like stock though?
I bought those and they work great! I'm 6' and felt cramped.
I agree with the skinny feeling but I've gotten used to it and past the arm pump on my 23 YZ450f. I moved the bars to the rear mount with the clamp in the forward position, feels a lot better for me and I am 6'2". I do have to wear earplugs with this bike or I get a splitting headache by the end of the day.
Absolutely: Said 5 TIMES, (one or two were "Absolute") Try an older year footpegmount, Or grind that top portion down as low as the teeth of the pegs. Then triangular metal rasp each tooth both sides to make en nice and sharp. And If u want to sell her or trade for a kawi keep us in the loop
Cameraman Cam! Love the content.
10k? F off with that BS! I paid $7500 for my 22 kx450 OTD.
I wouldn't buy a Yamaha just because Brian Deegans a POS. Specifically what he did at Lorettas last year.
Good point ts, have the 450 2023 but still my favorite.
The pegs and the contact part of the kneews are really where it need improvement. The 450 isn’t that loud but the 250 yes.
Good one!
Like you say, in 2024 most of bikes is very solid. Did go for the yz250f this year and works solid. Did put a Yoshi R12 on qucik tho and sounds very very nice. ( but i like hard/loud) :)
I'm B fast and let me tell you, when you start hitting rutted corners with stock suspension and weighing north of 200lbs, you're going to need to replace your stock suspension, I went with racetech. With stock suspension, I was feeling everything and bottoming out on with nearly any air/speed.
good catch on the footpeg mounts! That's actually a big deal to me as I'm taller and the one of the reasons for staying on yamaha for my next bike is that the rider triangle is supposedly better for taller riders so higher footpeg platform not really appealing. I don't really worry about loss of low end as I don't really like arm jerking torque rolling through corners. It would be cool if you could do a follow up on using the mapping. The other thing I'm really curious about is how much engine braking can be tuned out rolling through corners. Great review!
Yamaha notoriously builds bikes with small rider triangles. This bikes no different. It’s better than the old chassis but it’s still cramped for big guys.
I’m 6’2 and every single mod I’ve had to do has been related to rider triangle.
-5 -5 ti pegs, bars. It needs a wing seat, idk what to do about footpeg mounts yet but -5 -5 helped.
@@user-mo8tm4jw2l Yeah same height. I ride a 2017. I wonder if there are specs for which bike has biggest riders triangle. I'm thinking ktm might be better?
@@JimG1964 ktms and hondas are built for big guys, ktm specifically needed nothing. Been a while since ive personally set a red bike up for me but ive ridden them and they are built for tall guys too. The rest of the manufacturers tend to fit 5'9-5'10 guys perfect stock. Yamaha being the best of the bunch now after the changes they made but its still a bit tight stock for stock.
for reference, i also own ktms and huskies.
@@JimG1964Kawasaki
@@JimG1964 Kawi
Best review I’ve seen
Not only is the bike loud but it’s not even a good loud. It sounds like crap!!! I put a PC pipe on mine and it helped a little. It also doesn’t help that the air filter is right in your lap so it intensifies the sound even more.
Honestly I don’t know that I’d own another bike. It’s the only bike I’ve ever owned as a adult so I have nothing to compare it to. I love it.
Motor is awful, falls off so quick
I’d like to see more mid pack C class reviews from Cameraman Cam.
All reasonably fair assessments. As a smaller rider, I don’t really notice how difficult it is to actually squeeze with your knees, but I can see it being a problem for bigger guys. My last three bikes have been KTM group with the most recent being the 23’ generation…this YZ dollar-for-dollar is a better value compared to them. You’ll pay 2k more and will be left wanting to drop another $1,000 for suspension.
Every ktm I own ended up with kyb conversions and highly worked shocks or kit shocks and kit forks. I love the 22 chassis 4 strokes and I love my 19 tx 300 (carb model) but it requires kit suspension for me to be able to keep the same pace as anything blue. Lol. I sold my fc450. Kept my 2ts and bought a yamaha for my moto bike, kept my 300 for my worcs bike. 😂😂😂
Sometimes the wallet and your choice in suspension dictates what bike you buy 😂😂. I figured with what kit suspension would cost me I can fix anything “wrong” with the Yamaha.
For real. Like others said in the comment thread too, for anyone other than fast intermediate/A/Pro-Expert, just go ahead and pick which color plastic you like best because it’s not likely you’ll shave 20 seconds off a lap time going from one to another. Suspension-wise though, it’s hard to beat the blue ones as their baseline setting works really well across multiple skill levels and terrain.
“Yeah he does” 👌🏻
I was really excited about the update, but now I'm leaning more towards the previous year model. Am I crazy?
I absolutely love mine. I’m soo glad I got one. I got the Flo foot pegs and there is now no problem with the feet. Winged seat as well. Love it! Came from a 22 crf250r. This Yamaha motor is much more powerful
@@Tommymurraydrums Ok. I totally appreciate that, but do you think it is better than the 2022 or 2023 model?
Good review, different perspective I like it
That’s why I got a used 24 250f used for 6500 4k less goes a long way
Awesome review! I bet the foot peg thing is annoying.
Don’t listen to this guy about the air filter! 😂 it’s very secure and you can see the pressure it puts on the filter. Pegs mounts are fine I have no problems with them and none of my friends have problems nor my son who is a C rider. The 25 yz they did change it so you can order mounts.. seat is fine but too each is their own. Older Kawasaki were just as loud if not louder. I had one and at the track I hear some that are louder. He complains about price?!! Try a Ktm is 2 grand more.😂😂 my son got his 24 yz250f for $9000 otd.. my 24 was a bit more cause I got the anniversary. Also I rode other 24 yz250f’s and some are different. Some have really good bottom and others a tad less. I put a Stevie map in mine and absolutely love it..
It’s really annoying that no matter what bike yku get you have to invest money into it to make it work…10k dirt bike and yku are going to spend $400 at least just to be able to grip it properly.
Thanks Cam. Great amateur review.
Hope you don't ride in to dusty conditions. That air filter looks like it could use some filter oil!
See I im a shorter guy at 5’6 and the foot pegs and seat don’t bother me
Also was $10,200 after tax and dealer fees???!!! I got my 24 50th anniversary edition for about $10,800 before down payment
Thick bike=easier grab and less effort. Thin bikes can make your lower body work less efficiently because of your knee placement to your feet. Kawis suck to ride for me now because of my 23 yz250f
Yup,! I would rather ride a 2000' ish 125 2 Stroke!
hell yeah
You can tell the new bike is missing low end because Deegan hasn't been able to get his starts he did on the old yz250f in supercross.
His bike IS NOT OUR BIKES! Completely worked.
Can't even compare the two. His bike is completely different than the production yamahas lol
extra loud or not, everyone needs to be wearing ear plus when on any dirt bike. you will have less stress, ride faster and... wont go deaf. find an ear plug that is firm and does not bother your ears (practice when not riding to make sure they don't itch or bother). the key to ear plugs is to put them way way in, let it set a minute, them tug them out to where its more comfortable and you can still hear a bit more. it's about 1/3 back out.
cut off the outer 20% of any ear plug you use in in a helmet. if they stick out they will catch on the helmet and drive you crazy or fall out. if your worried about hearing other bikes, dont worry. you can actually hear other sounds better with ear plugs in. just make sure they are not all the way in. you are trying to reduce the sound a bit, but not get the full 29db noise reduction of the plug.
lastly, if you ride in the hills and change elevation quickly, you will need to get music stage ear plugs. they are vented and will allow for the pressure changes. unfortunately if they are too long they wont work, cuz they cant be clipped off.
Wait til you ride behind one with an fmf pipe. The stock mufflers fairly quiet. Damn Yamahas obnoxiously loud lol that’s for sure. Earplugs are a must.
I came off ktms. It is a bummer to have to buy stuff but ya know what it could be worse. Could be a ktm and you could need kit suspension to get the bike to feel anywhere near as good as the kyb stuff on that 250.
Each bike has its things they need. Try -5 -5 pegs. Helped my arm pump @6’2. helps your knees move to a spot they can grip a bit better and opens the rider triangle for a larger guy. I run a 999 bend bar. Forward mount flipped rear. Probably doing a wing seat myself soon I run them on everything else. Lol. Also grip tape is your friend.
That’s helped a lot with staying in the correct position on the bike.
Damn I just paid $8,000 for mine before tax and title. Mines the fx tho.
Ya that foot pegs and stock mounts do suck..
aye mx 23
Foot pegs are fine for me
Hopefully yz450f 2025 is better
I suspect you're not riding on the balls of your feet. That would be a huge screw up by yamaha.
Air filter and gas tank setup is such garbage, pipe sounds like absolute shit, timing chain goes to shit in less than 40 hours. Stock suspension is unbeatable other than that it’s a shit box.
Yep get a Husqvarna fc 350 best bike ever no problems at all bike is so bad ass you will forget all about a Yamaha 😂
@@gw4717 I have 6 ktms no need for a husky
@@gw4717 terrible front forks Thoe the motor is probably better than the new yzs but most 14 to 18 250fs yz get well over 100 hours when they went electric start seem to be the issues
Bikes garbege, worst 250 motor and the rider triangle is awful. I fell for the bs hype myself
What do you like instead?
I don't know how much a c class rider matters
About as much as your personal opinion…
@morley3810 no problem
@@christophervillarreal8565 just like yours
@@shawnhorne9296 I didn’t give my opinion you 🤡
There's more c riders than pro, a, and b combined.