I feel so terrible contributing to gossip at work. This isn’t me. My workplace is so toxic and everyone does it so now I’m picking up on bad habits. I dont want to be a part of it at all. Please pray for me. I’m tired of sinning and feel like I’m back tracking on the person I’m supposed to be.
It’s the same at my place of employment. It’s so easy to get caught up in. I’m pulling away from it. It destroys any organization from the inside out. I’ll pray for you and do likewise for me. God bless!!❤❤
Removing toxic people out of your life, even family is not you damaging other people. Just because they are family does not mean they deserve a place in your life.
I have trouble controlling myself when someone is sharing something bad that happened to them and then I want to relate to them and so I tell the story of how something similar happened to me. Then afterwards I realize I've just run that person down again, and even though I feel hard done by it or hurt by then, I still don't want to lower myself and I don't want the toxic event to have lowered me. So I'm getting better at this the more I think about it and listen to these things. Thank you.
I’ve had my. Whole life pulled out from under me from gossip that was true but elaborated. I’ve been lashing out trying to defend myself. My love of 47 years was part of the problem but he’s sick with Parkinson’s LB dementia 💔 we decided to build a home his family didn’t approve so never even came to share our excitement! They took advantage of our stressful situation and took my husband 💔 I can’ hardly function anymore without my husband I miss him horribly because I’ve loved him so much since I was 14
Thank you yet again!!! I love that God's Word is truly a double edged sword... I stand convicted. May God continue to bless you for speaking truth in love. I need to watch this again a few more times and memorize the scripture passages you read to hide them in my heart.
Exactly what I needed! Thank you so much! Gossip is sharing morsels of negative information about someone who is not present to give their side of the story. The gossiper always presents their info as neutral, factual & objective. Proverbs 10:18--Do I want to be a fool? Do I want an associate or friend who is a fool? When has gossip ever produced righteousness? Lord, cover our mouths! Do not allow us to speak foolishness out of our own selfish minds. Wisdom from above is pure, peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy & good fruit, impartial & sincere. James certainly brings it in chapter 3. This is a touchy & vital subject as God will destroy the slanderer Ps 101:5
So glad I found this. Recently went through this, but the worst part it was church leadership doing it. We ended up going to another church because of it. People were intentionally and maliciously being torn down and attacked. Trying to talk to them about what was happening made it worse.
I find it hard to differentiate gossip and normal conversation so I find myself just being shut mouth towards others so I don’t accidentally utter something connotatting gossip. Also with laughter I don’t laugh at a lot of things other people make light of.. but then I second guess and wonder if it was ok for me to share a laugh..?
I can totally relate to the uncertainty about what actually classifies as gossip, but I'm trying to learn. However, I feel like you can join a laugh sometimes. There is a difference between friendly and loving jokes about someones traits or actions, and laughing at them at their expense. So try to discern if the joke is friendly or if it actually hurts the person.
We are all guilty. the heart is desperately wicked, evil to its surrounding influences. The key is, what do we allow to "influence" us then? Three is no one good, only one. May the Lord remind us all to walk the other way.
Good point Jon bought up later about HS days (13 min in) ~ What we say in quiet secret to others, SHOUTS LOUDLY to the one we are speaking to ... ABOUT OURSELVES. We cannot be trusted. We are violators as counselors, advisors, and lawyers then, disqualified. The one we should seek when such things come up for wisdom (not sided votes of approval) is the Lord in prayer, He will reveal to us what is true and right.
My neighbor is a big gossiper. She's home everyday and knows my routine. I don't condone to gossip and I do not trust people who I know gossip. The walls are thin so my neighbors upstairs, downstairs and next door are against me and gossiping about me constantly yet they don't confront me or talk to me and ask me for my side. I leave it all in God's hands. I trust he will do right by me.
May the Lord continue to bless you all….Please keep bringing the Word as the Holy Spirit moves you to🙏🏽 A podcast that declares the Word of God, and NOT man’s wisdom, hard to find……
It almost killed me- but my relationship with God held. The backlash of lies about me is still happening though. I am so very hurt- looking for professional help for gaslighting, now. Thank you.
Amen, a good example and wise reminder - help me/us to guard our mouths. For if we truly love the brethren, we then in honor, in respect, prefer them before us. If we defer to the Holy Spirit's lead as God guides us, how then, can we go wrong? Our emotions, our feelings no matter how strong, does not constitute, truth or reality or fact.
Kyle brings up the strongest point, we are quick to "tear down" but are we looking w an eye towards "restoration" if not, Peter never would had made it ... Jesus reached out to him Chuck Girard (Alisa Childer's dad) wrote a song in the 80s, Don't shoot the wounded. We are a family, we are a team. United we stand, divided we fall.
It's almost a funny sight, we fight those who cannot defend themselves, so it is like shadow punching and knocking them out, even tho they aren't there, although if they were there it would be interesting as to who would stand, and who would get knocked out.
Thank you for this teaching. I appreciate u briefly touching on warning others. Its hard to properly walk the line of warning others and gossip. Please consider flushing that topic out more in the future. To God be the glory!
This is the sin inspired by the enemy. Satan means the slanderer. If the brethren and sistren really love each other., they will not slander each other. That said, there will be tares among the wheat and these brothers do well to watch for wolves. Some will explode when you confront them.
A mess toxic people love to spread and keep gossip about you or another going. They love to stay in the mix of stuff. Whether a lie or the truth idle, people create lies and juicy gossip. If you find yourself amongst the miserable who try to manipulate you to keep connections and communication with people and situations in which no longer serve you because you have outgrown a lot of habits and interactions as well. I don't live my life fully like a christain, yet there are some things that I do love about christainity that have helped me remove the burden of drug addiction. Sadly, abuse and misuse of technology and harassment as well as lies, came from toxic people who were doing the work of the devil. Intentional lies and abuse. The wrong hands were always on me. God will never send toxic manipulates to take over my life and aim to control it as well. I answer to no man, but when I die, I will give an account to the man upstairs. I don't walk around pointing out the sins or wrong of others. I belong to no church. I just visit from time to time. We are not on our time when we feel someone should be free of certain religious beliefs and habits. God is in control and knows the time, the hour, and the day. I see nothing wrong with same sex relationship but more important what I struggled with was drug addiction their for with me being free from that I rather be a walking testimony for those of all walk of life who are struggling with that and being treated or judged harshly for a disease called addiction. Darkness can't drive out. Darkness only light can do that and hate cannot drive out hate only love can do that. If you look at the spirit behind addiction it's a spirit of hate and tare down, waiting to keep people hindered with addiction and the lies that it tells. The enemy of lies. The enemy doesn't want people free from addiction because it has been beneficial in so many ways in the most unhealthy ways to the people . The enemy doesn't want to souls to experience life he wants death on those alive and walking and he also wants tge minds of others to be blind to the fact that he wants no one coming fourth for the change and the healing of souls and the freedom of those who are in and out of prison. He wants to also use the harsh judgment of others to affect others' mental health. Talk more about a graceful, caring God than a messed up judgement. God draws people in with love and truth not abuse
Can I please ask where you get your definition of gossip and slander? I love this podcast and appreciate you guys talking about this really sensitive and hard topic, especially within the church!
The Bible says... “If another believer sins against you, go privately and point out the offense. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back. But if you are unsuccessful, take one or two others with you and go back again, so that everything you say may be confirmed by two or three witnesses. If the person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. Then if he or she won’t accept the church’s decision, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector. Matthew 18:15-17 But we usually do this... If another believer sins against you, go publicly and point out the offense. If the other people listen to your gossip, you have won those people to your sinful behavior. But if you are unsuccessful, talk with one or two others about the problem you had with your friend, and ask them to agree with you that you have been wronged. So that everything you say about how wronged you were, may be confirmed by two or three other gossip minded witnesses. If the person still has no clue that they have wronged you, take your case ("prayer request") to the church prayer meeting. Then if he or she are able to figure out that you are talking about them... then you may hold them at arm's length, until you become so bitter and self-enraged towards the individual that you have a problem with, that you end up being so filled with self-righteous indignation, that it causes you to turn your face from God and you are consumed with so much pain that you are unable to function for the cause of the Lord Jesus Christ. This is a miserable, sinful parody on Matthew 18:15-17
PRO-SOCIAL BENEFITS Gossip is sharing information. You determine whether it’s positive or negative. You determine if it goes in the direction of slander. Gossip can promote cooperation by spreading positive information. When people say “your reputation precedes you“ they have heard gossip in the form of positive information about that person. Which was useful and served a purpose. That said, not correcting gossip that you know is untrue is not useful or helpful and has no pro-social benefit. The Bible teaches not to gossip in a negative or slanderous way.!
Forgive me Lord,my intentions were not to turnish this HR but she just wasn't acting professional towards me and my colleague,we talked Abt her and as if someone heard our conversations,I was looking for a hole to hide until it's time to be exposed passes by as I timidly repent behind drawn curtains, gossip is sweet wen we are sure nobody of flesh and blood is listening in,but all the same there's a level one riches in spirit and SIN BECOMES THE ACTUAL HELL
Is talking to somebody bout about their problems considered gossip? I know a few people that only know me when they wanna talk about their problems they have with somebody
Dear God Please forgive me I am a sinner Romans 1:28 depraved mind All of these sins are relational If we give ourselves over to a debased mind our culture will reflect these things We have to actively watch out for this... We have to be on guard for this ..... Proverbs gives you wisdom to watch out for this Wisdom Proverbs 10:18 Psalm 141:3 Set a guard of my mouth Protect me from becoming a fool Ps 101:5 God will destroy God will not endure!!!!! James 3:13 Good behaviour wisdom... Titus 3:10 Gal 6:10 Matthew 18
I feel so terrible contributing to gossip at work. This isn’t me. My workplace is so toxic and everyone does it so now I’m picking up on bad habits. I dont want to be a part of it at all. Please pray for me. I’m tired of sinning and feel like I’m back tracking on the person I’m supposed to be.
It’s the same at my place of employment. It’s so easy to get caught up in. I’m pulling away from it. It destroys any organization from the inside out. I’ll pray for you and do likewise for me. God bless!!❤❤
Many people gossip out of their jealousy.
Removing toxic people out of your life, even family is not you damaging other people. Just because they are family does not mean they deserve a place in your life.
I was just going to ask about this and saw this comment at the top!
Exactly.... they refused truth, love, so i gave them to God and moved on.
Proverbs 18:21, Life and death are in the power of the tongue.
I have trouble controlling myself when someone is sharing something bad that happened to them and then I want to relate to them and so I tell the story of how something similar happened to me. Then afterwards I realize I've just run that person down again, and even though I feel hard done by it or hurt by then, I still don't want to lower myself and I don't want the toxic event to have lowered me. So I'm getting better at this the more I think about it and listen to these things. Thank you.
Just leave the persons name out.
I’ve had my. Whole life pulled out from under me from gossip that was true but elaborated. I’ve been lashing out trying to defend myself. My love of 47 years was part of the problem but he’s sick with Parkinson’s LB dementia 💔 we decided to build a home his family didn’t approve so never even came to share our excitement! They took advantage of our stressful situation and took my husband 💔
I can’ hardly function anymore without my husband I miss him horribly because I’ve loved him so much since I was 14
Gossip and Slander is an self entitlement that a person uses to cause harm.
Thank you yet again!!! I love that God's Word is truly a double edged sword... I stand convicted. May God continue to bless you for speaking truth in love. I need to watch this again a few more times and memorize the scripture passages you read to hide them in my heart.
Exactly what I needed! Thank you so much!
Gossip is sharing morsels of negative information about someone who is not present to give their side of the story. The gossiper always presents their info as neutral, factual & objective. Proverbs 10:18--Do I want to be a fool? Do I want an associate or friend who is a fool? When has gossip ever produced righteousness?
Lord, cover our mouths! Do not allow us to speak foolishness out of our own selfish minds.
Wisdom from above is pure, peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy & good fruit, impartial & sincere. James certainly brings it in chapter 3.
This is a touchy & vital subject as God will destroy the slanderer Ps 101:5
Thank you for offering this podcast on a very important topic. Super helpful !
“We fear man so much” mic drop
So glad I found this. Recently went through this, but the worst part it was church leadership doing it. We ended up going to another church because of it. People were intentionally and maliciously being torn down and attacked. Trying to talk to them about what was happening made it worse.
I find it hard to differentiate gossip and normal conversation so I find myself just being shut mouth towards others so I don’t accidentally utter something connotatting gossip. Also with laughter I don’t laugh at a lot of things other people make light of.. but then I second guess and wonder if it was ok for me to share a laugh..?
I can totally relate to the uncertainty about what actually classifies as gossip, but I'm trying to learn. However, I feel like you can join a laugh sometimes. There is a difference between friendly and loving jokes about someones traits or actions, and laughing at them at their expense. So try to discern if the joke is friendly or if it actually hurts the person.
We are all guilty. the heart is desperately wicked, evil to its surrounding influences. The key is, what do we allow to "influence" us then? Three is no one good, only one. May the Lord remind us all to walk the other way.
Good point Jon bought up later about HS days (13 min in) ~ What we say in quiet secret to others, SHOUTS LOUDLY to the one we are speaking to ... ABOUT OURSELVES. We cannot be trusted. We are violators as counselors, advisors, and lawyers then, disqualified. The one we should seek when such things come up for wisdom (not sided votes of approval) is the Lord in prayer, He will reveal to us what is true and right.
Thank you for sharing all those truths from the Scriptures. This is a complicated issue and we all need discernment.
If we follow the word of God, we will know what to do. If we are not going to that person we are gossiping.
What a nugget of wisdom im guilty of this im so convicted.
Of all sin, I personally hate Gossip/ slander the most.
My neighbor is a big gossiper. She's home everyday and knows my routine. I don't condone to gossip and I do not trust people who I know gossip. The walls are thin so my neighbors upstairs, downstairs and next door are against me and gossiping about me constantly yet they don't confront me or talk to me and ask me for my side. I leave it all in God's hands. I trust he will do right by me.
Such a great teaching and a blessing Thank you so much ❤ Thank you God 😊
Great episode. Thank you for addressing such an important issue in today's church. This message should be shared! 🙏
May the Lord continue to bless you all….Please keep bringing the Word as the Holy Spirit moves you to🙏🏽
A podcast that declares the Word of God, and NOT man’s wisdom, hard to find……
May mercy prevail over judgement in my life and family in Jesus name Amen. Guilty as charged
When gossip becomes a tool against you to keep you from getting a job, for instance, then you sue!
It almost killed me- but my relationship with God held. The backlash of lies about me is still happening though. I am so very hurt- looking for professional help for gaslighting, now. Thank you.
Trust God to vindicate you. I have bern slandered deepfaked, targeted for gaslighting and worse, but now I stand on Psalm 37
Better to let God help you. I found even professional counselors will betray you and cause you more trouble.
Repeated gossip at work = covert workplace bullying. Creating a toxic workplace.
Thanks very much for this. God actually caught me the other day. Wow God forgive me. Help us O Lord, be more merciful.🙏🙏💜
I'm going to need to listen again. Thank you for this content.
Amen, a good example and wise reminder - help me/us to guard our mouths.
For if we truly love the brethren,
we then in honor,
in respect,
prefer them before us.
If we defer to the Holy Spirit's lead as God guides us, how then, can we go wrong?
Our emotions, our feelings no matter how strong,
does not constitute,
truth or reality or fact.
Thanks God for this message,i really need it,thank you❤ ,God Bless
Kyle brings up the strongest point, we are quick to "tear down"
but are we looking w an eye towards "restoration"
if not, Peter never would had made it ... Jesus reached out to him
Chuck Girard (Alisa Childer's dad) wrote a song in the 80s,
Don't shoot the wounded.
We are a family, we are a team.
United we stand, divided we fall.
This was such a blessing, I also have been studying this topic so I praise God for leading me here. ❤
It's almost a funny sight, we fight those who cannot defend themselves, so it is like shadow punching and knocking them out, even tho they aren't there, although if they were there it would be interesting as to who would stand, and who would get knocked out.
My so called 'husband' is so slanderous. I'm such a wounded soul 😢 but God is my vindicator.
Do you have a pastor to talk to? That's a rotten thing to say
❤ excellent discussion and edification, helped me so much, praise our God!
By the way, Happy Birthday Jon🙏🏻😊
Thank you for this teaching. I appreciate u briefly touching on warning others. Its hard to properly walk the line of warning others and gossip. Please consider flushing that topic out more in the future. To God be the glory!
Warn people about what? We have clear instructions from the word. You go to that person first and then continue to follow the word.
This is the sin inspired by the enemy. Satan means the slanderer. If the brethren and sistren really love each other., they will not slander each other. That said, there will be tares among the wheat and these brothers do well to watch for wolves. Some will explode when you confront them.
Feliz Cumpleanos ~ we sent you something to the church e-mail, and posted a greeting on our youtube channel, blessings, enjoy the day pastor Jon
Thank you so much for this. This is a healing message for me to become a better person. I am grateful.
Very good. Thank you
This was so good!!!
( sad guilt face head down) no comment but one i am so sorry Jesus
A mess toxic people love to spread and keep gossip about you or another going. They love to stay in the mix of stuff. Whether a lie or the truth idle, people create lies and juicy gossip. If you find yourself amongst the miserable who try to manipulate you to keep connections and communication with people and situations in which no longer serve you because you have outgrown a lot of habits and interactions as well. I don't live my life fully like a christain, yet there are some things that I do love about christainity that have helped me remove the burden of drug addiction. Sadly, abuse and misuse of technology and harassment as well as lies, came from toxic people who were doing the work of the devil. Intentional lies and abuse. The wrong hands were always on me. God will never send toxic manipulates to take over my life and aim to control it as well. I answer to no man, but when I die, I will give an account to the man upstairs. I don't walk around pointing out the sins or wrong of others. I belong to no church. I just visit from time to time. We are not on our time when we feel someone should be free of certain religious beliefs and habits. God is in control and knows the time, the hour, and the day. I see nothing wrong with same sex relationship but more important what I struggled with was drug addiction their for with me being free from that I rather be a walking testimony for those of all walk of life who are struggling with that and being treated or judged harshly for a disease called addiction. Darkness can't drive out. Darkness only light can do that and hate cannot drive out hate only love can do that. If you look at the spirit behind addiction it's a spirit of hate and tare down, waiting to keep people hindered with addiction and the lies that it tells. The enemy of lies. The enemy doesn't want people free from addiction because it has been beneficial in so many ways in the most unhealthy ways to the people . The enemy doesn't want to souls to experience life he wants death on those alive and walking and he also wants tge minds of others to be blind to the fact that he wants no one coming fourth for the change and the healing of souls and the freedom of those who are in and out of prison. He wants to also use the harsh judgment of others to affect others' mental health. Talk more about a graceful, caring God than a messed up judgement. God draws people in with love and truth not abuse
Stop repeating or entertaining information you did NOT witness and don't have the ENTIRE truth.
Can I please ask where you get your definition of gossip and slander?
I love this podcast and appreciate you guys talking about this really sensitive and hard topic, especially within the church!
I need to get a handle on this. Im just so traped in this
The Bible says...
“If another believer sins against you, go privately and point out the offense. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back. But if you are unsuccessful, take one or two others with you and go back again, so that everything you say may be confirmed by two or three witnesses. If the person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. Then if he or she won’t accept the church’s decision, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector. Matthew 18:15-17
But we usually do this...
If another believer sins against you, go publicly and point out the offense. If the other people listen to your gossip, you have won those people to your sinful behavior. But if you are unsuccessful, talk with one or two others about the problem you had with your friend, and ask them to agree with you that you have been wronged. So that everything you say about how wronged you were, may be confirmed by two or three other gossip minded witnesses. If the person still has no clue that they have wronged you, take your case ("prayer request") to the church prayer meeting. Then if he or she are able to figure out that you are talking about them... then you may hold them at arm's length, until you become so bitter and self-enraged towards the individual that you have a problem with, that you end up being so filled with self-righteous indignation, that it causes you to turn your face from God and you are consumed with so much pain that you are unable to function for the cause of the Lord Jesus Christ. This is a miserable, sinful parody on Matthew 18:15-17
PRO-SOCIAL BENEFITS
Gossip is sharing information. You determine whether it’s positive or negative. You determine if it goes in the direction of slander. Gossip can promote cooperation by spreading positive information. When people say “your reputation precedes you“ they have heard gossip in the form of positive information about that person. Which was useful and served a purpose. That said, not correcting gossip that you know is untrue is not useful or helpful and has no pro-social benefit. The Bible teaches not to gossip in a negative or slanderous way.!
Forgive me Lord,my intentions were not to turnish this HR but she just wasn't acting professional towards me and my colleague,we talked Abt her and as if someone heard our conversations,I was looking for a hole to hide until it's time to be exposed passes by as I timidly repent behind drawn curtains, gossip is sweet wen we are sure nobody of flesh and blood is listening in,but all the same there's a level one riches in spirit and SIN BECOMES THE ACTUAL HELL
Best to remember Mordecai and Haman ... someone should be honored
So what to do when the people doing the slandering is the elders?
Is talking to somebody bout about their problems considered gossip? I know a few people that only know me when they wanna talk about their problems they have with somebody
Dear God
Please forgive me I am a sinner
Romans 1:28 depraved mind
All of these sins are relational
If we give ourselves over to a debased mind our culture will reflect these things
We have to actively watch out for this...
We have to be on guard for this
.....
Proverbs gives you wisdom to watch out for this
Wisdom
Proverbs 10:18
Psalm 141:3
Set a guard of my mouth
Protect me from becoming a fool
Ps 101:5
God will destroy
God will not endure!!!!!
James 3:13
Good behaviour wisdom...
Titus 3:10
Gal 6:10
Matthew 18
I Was Bullying Victim He Will Not Stop Talking Gossip And Slandering Pls Brother
What if it’s your pastor who is covered in conflict but it’s hidden?
Should you tell someone that you gossiped about them?
How about discussing the teaching of theology with another church member or disagreeing with it ? Is that gossip too?
No
Hector angla
All lies! 🙈😄