I can understand WB telling Prince he was putting out too much music to a degree. As a teenage fan, at that time, it's was rough coming up with the money to buy the new album, the 7 inch and 12 inch singles for the b-side songs and extended a-sides, the protégé albums and singles... etc. I remember in 87, I made a deal with my friend Mark that I would buy the SotT album and the Prince singles and 12 inches and he bought Madhouse 16 and Sheila's 3rd album and their singles. Then we would share them and dub them on cassettes. Hahaha. Those were the days!
IMO , i think prince wanted to put all of that into one album as a collective whole . You wouldn't have to buy it separate. They (WB) wanted him to compete with Michael and all these other artists, while prince was more concerned about getting his message / artistic endeavors to the people. My best example is the crystal ball album , which was originally a 3 disc set that unfortunately got cut down to become sott, as warner bros was more focused on album sales than actual artistry. So if it wasn't for them fans would have had a 3 disc set in 1987 instead if 2 disc. -*Prince also stated at one point in his career that he used to record songs / albums as long drawn out pieces but had to be taught to cut them down.
Artist's can't stop creating...and put out what they create...it's their livelihood...the Industry (Warner Brother's) is referencing their control of cash flow from this cash cow...to protect their INTEREST...not the consumer...lol
exactly it's prince at his best that concert film is so underrated some people have no idea how amazing those performances at the sign o the times tour was
@@michaelsevilla3697But it is not underrated. Prince himself failed this album. He focused on Europe and gave the US this film instead of a tour to support the album. So the album only sold 1 million and only got 4 singles, 4 singles off a double album? So no it was not underrated. People had plenty of time to “rate” this album and they chose not to. Remember it only sold 1 million. Prince himself just released a new album one year after it, that killed any chance of more singles.
I saw the Sign Of The Times tour back in 1987 in Dortmund, Germany. It was amazing that I had seen him Live the first time back in 1986 in New York with the Parade Tour. To see him following year was awesome and out of the USA. It was a great show. Great year for Icons of the music industry. I heard Sign Of The Times wasn't toured in America. So I got an exclusive. Prince was awesome. He made the movie Sign O the Times. Nothing like being there Live.
I waited a minute before making a comment. The one thing I surely heard plainly stated by Rod Stewart as I recall was something like "IF Prince was a "black" man we'd be in trouble". Wow, what a comment. It appears that he had the entire music establishment shook & on edge because of the rollercoaster of success he was experiencing at that time. This better defines the alleged competition the media said was taking place between Prince & MJ at that time. They always hype stuff into existence or more than what it is (mole hills into mountains) just to run a psy-op on the fans which are nothing but consumers to them. Actually HOW MUCH or WHAT PERCENT of the revenues does the ARTIST get to keep? They are the ones out there giving their all (blood,sweat & tears) to keep their fans satisfied. I realize that Prince made some what looks like errors in his business dealings in respect to having great talent he had signed & produced yet just kept them in limbo & sitting on a shelf & not allowing them to tour & promoting them. I am referring to Jill Jones namely. Same mistake already made with firing Jam & Lewis & allowing Andre Cymone to exit stage left. He was so busy "acquiring" new people to work with that he just put others in the vault like he did his creations which he felt were not ready just yet. The Stewart statement let me see that although Prince had played up the "ambivalent race" card & his management team pushed that to promote an air of mystique the industry & other artists KNEW how they saw him...as a "black" man who was taking over & a serious threat to their hallowed "white" rock & roll genre. In other words Prince had them SHOOK! Maybe this is why he told WB upon signing him to their label to "NOT make me "black". We all know that music has no color & that sound is a frequency. Frequencies do have differing band widths that register to the human eye as "colors" in the visible spectrum. Honestly, the ONLY color that any of them was really interested in was GREEN...as in green DOLLARS. The other stuff was merely smoke & mirrors to achieve a desire outcome. That's how the industry game is played. Prince played 4D chess while others were playing checkers.
Excellent video. Had he toured for SOTT and came to the states and I still saw Lovesexy, I would've seen him on 4 tours in a row within 5 years. As it was I saw him 3 times over 4 years. In hindsight, I was just used to his constant output. He just didn't stop. I can't say that about any of my other favorites except Stevie in the 70s. 4 albums recorded in a year and a half. Including this movie, I DID see him 4 times in a row cuz this WAS after all a concert movie
Unfortunately no. I've only been to Paris 3 times and it was for music business. The tours I saw were Purple Rain in 85 at Nassau Coliseum, Parade in 86 at MSG (they were selling Parade T shirts and merch so despite what people say, it still counts as the tour 😉), Lovesexy in 88 at MSG and Musicology at the Philly Spectrum in '04. Didn't really have any interest in seeing him live during the 90s stuff
As I look back on it, WB had a valid point. Prince was definitely over saturating the market with his material. You could not have convinced me of that at the time, because I couldn't get enough of Prince back then. But, the Purple Yoda was doing too much and not letting his albums flourish before he released another one....
U only live once. U gone FUNK up yo giftz/life, 4 dis lame azz Monopoly/Life game, these buzzardz, got us playin? Datz y he wuz like - SCREW THEY GAME - man! They cheatin anywayz. ( & DUH lame azzes, MADE DUH GAME!!!!! ) Ain't no fun, playin wit cheaterz!
Finally someone else gets it! I was/am like you, I bought all the albums and 12” singles. I went to all the concerts. Then I became a radio DJ and saw him from WB’s point of view. One good thing personally for me though. My station got a Lovesexy CD that had the songs separately. If you remember Lovesexy normally had just one song, all the tracks ran together. The radio CD was rare and my station didn’t like the CD so I grabbed it for myself.
cool 2 c the dutch footish. sott the movie is not that good 2 me, Prince is the best Live performer ever and then do a playback movie . .. 80's second half is the peak of it all. (but i told u this allready) (thx bro)
How do these videos keep getting better and better? This video is amazing. I remember going to see this in the theatre and being a little pissed that it wasn’t a live US tour. I was so greedy lol
You weren’t greedy. It was bad marketing/promotion on his part. If he “played the game” at some moments in his career, it would’ve given him the financial and artistic freedom for future projects that he wanted.
@@keeganhill6140 I LOVED SIGN O THE TIMEZ!!!! Saw it countless timez, @ da movie theater & I paid each time. Only did dat 1 otha time. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - STAR WARS. YUPPERZ!!!! Prince REALly wuz a Purple Yoda, 2 me!
Sinnik22, I love every one of your videos. I'm exhausted just listening to what Prince could accomplish in one day, he seemed to be super-human. Watched this one twice!!!
I love Cat-scat and her Jacking. Without her energy and her choreographies, without the funky climate through Eric + Atlanta the success would not be so Big Thank U S22 💜👌
I love what you're doing. I'm wondering why are we only getting remasters, and vinyls? Where is the rest of his music? We do want to hear & experience them too!!!
Those voices we all have in our heads, that say shit like "did I leave the oven on" "do I have enough money saved" "do I look fat in this" imagine those voices writing 'sign o the times' 'when 2 r in love' 'u got the look' etc ALL at the same time!!! People like Prince only come around once in a lifetime
Oh man, AMAZING work and video as always my friend!! I couldn't wait to watch this one since I already posted my experience with getting a bootleg Black Album cassette in the mail from a mysterious local DJ. But an extra "DAAYYUUUHM" for your creative work on that album cover montage @5:51!!!!🤯🤯🤯 Just INCREDIBLE work!! You have got to do a how-to film/video production series!! These are the best videos on youtube man!!
Once again thank you. As far as sign of the times. The heart scene was so sexy.💜 Now hearing cat say he was sliding and her hair was stuck. I have to laugh. Love me some prince.💜💜💜
I love that Cat-I’m not going to say any names….cut to Jill Jones. This is the stuff! So many levels. Rod Stewart. Fire from the start!!! Thanks again!
February 1988, I'm in the wrecker stow looking at Prince records and dude sells me bootleg of the black album. I haven't even listened to your video yet, but you get a LIKE for that, b/c for 30 years people been telling me I'm crazy
When you think about what Marylou Badeaux who was working in Warner Bros. said that Prince wasn't so compatible with members of the company. He wasn't into convening with a lot of the staff members in the company. It wasn't his thing. So she believes a lot of people weren't into fighting for him and his wishes. Especially during the time he started wearing Slave on his cheek. She said a lot of them in the company was offended that he did that. She tried to explain to them why he was doing that. She said people couldn't absorb it as fast as you are putting it out. Looking back. She was right. When Sign O the Times came out. I was still listening to it waiting for the Bad Album to come out in 1987. So from March to August I was consumed with that Album. In between while living in Europe Terence Trent D'arby came out with his brilliant debut. But, Prince was already bored after touring with Sign O Times. By 1988 he had a complete new concept called Love Sexy. I was like WTF. But, he challenged his supporters to keep up. Believe me we tried. I'm still digesting the Emancipation Album. Some music on all his albums I still have to back too and listen. But, that is the fun part of being a Prince supporter.
This post is very informative, the transcription is great. I always found Christy Turlington 2 B the most beautiful woman in the world, she's ABSOLUTELY HIGH CLASSY just like Prince. So much great facts.. Thank U S22👍💜☸
Hey man or woman, whoever you are, keep doing this! Your docuseries is great! I appreciate the research and work that you invest to tell an accurate story.
But Mick is still out there touring. The fans are still buying tickets. Mick found a way to ride the waves of a changing culture. Prince had to do the same.
Over saturation within any sales market is a bad thing. That’s why with certain products they may wait to release an item months in advance even if it’s already created.
In regards to what rod Stewart said if Prince was white, we would all be in trouble. Even though he was black, they should have all been in trouble anyways after hearing SOTT and SOTT should have been the NUMBER 1 album of both 87/88 and I'm really hoping that the Super Deluxe Edition will win the Grammy for BEST historical album like it should have won over U2 Joshua tree 34 YEARS AGO. I posted raving about it on the Grammys blog.
Oddly enough I remember Prince’s SOTT concert film not getting the proper recognition even though it was critically acclaimed. U2’s Rattle and Hum comes out a few months later and it hits #1 which already added to my disdain for them when they beat out Prince for that Grammy
@@j_ocrates23 U2 wuz on point! Don't hate them, cause of da game. Bono, wuz probably just a better politician, than Prince. Prince done told u - I DON'T CARE 2 WIN AWARDZ. Da lil guy, had roomZ FULL of awardz, anyhowz. So...........
@@aavalestormiconicperformer DAT PART, Iconic! I wanted 2 SCHMACK REALity n2 him, @ sum pointz! Hmmmmmmm Dichotomy During da 1st 5 yearz, they said he wuz a lil terror. An azzwhole. A narcissistic, pompous, beeyatch! Full of himself. @ da end....... Itz like he 4got, or sumpon. I felt so sorry 4 him, @ certain pointz. He had it rite, those 1st 5 yearz!!!! PURE FUNky GENIUS
SOTT's best concert film of al time hands down, at par with Purple Rain if you ask me. I never reay got into the Black Album but when hey did some tunes in the Lovesexy film.... it came to life and I understood that skinny dude with the high voice a little bit more better. Love the crowd doing the wave and the Madhouse banner. Great footage.
MJ, prince was sleeping with shelia on that tour and prince would of lost that if Jill was there. She would of been too tempting to him. He knew what he was doing, to get what he wanted. He could of called Jill at any time if it wasn't working out with shelia. But not the other way around. Prince always took sex on his tours, he didn't have time to go out looking for it. Really smart man early on to.
I guess you could say he was as driven by the sex of it as much as he was by the music. I realise no one is perfect, but no wonder Jill left in the end - bitter - and didn't speak for years. Ultimately Jill got over it and they made up, which is a good thing.
@@rodb66 Yep. Did a very good solo self titled album in 1987. Didn't do well for all sorts of reasons, but WB and Tipper Gore were two of them. What was mentioned on this video didn't exactly help either.
Jill Jones and The Family has the distinction of having the most "Prince" album of all the people he's worked with. I wished that he would have kept those albums and released them himself.
@@KKMDStyle Lol the excuse that “real fans listened” “people didn’t know music” no people are not about buy a album every damn year. Just because your precious prince didn’t get burnt out doesn’t mean others didn’t.
@@KKMDStyle For an example “ If I was your girlfriend” probably his best song but the sign o of the times concert version because he wanted to do Camille’s voice in the album version? Why??? Why?? His regular voice would’ve made that a hit but he tried to be smarter than he actually was. He tried to be smarter than he actually was plenty of times. Stop revising history, Prince was not relevant music wise anymore in the 90s or 2000s. He was relevant due to changing his name.
I understood then as well as now why WB was concerned about output. Especially coming off from the debacle of UTCM. With that being said, the worst thing that he didnt do was tour the states. If he had did that, it would gave SOTT much needed promotion. And possibly beating U2 at the Grammies. Anyhow, it's funny of the people who worked with him, take credit of what he did....ok LOL
Kinda a little off topic but I think if Housequake was second single (at the time a lot of radio stations were already feat in heavy rotation) the album/ hype would’ve blown up and because of the way tour bookings are the decision to tour States had to be made right around time of second single. Housequake woulda made that tour happen - and it woulda been huge - U got the look comes next and rest is history. Downside is we would’ve never gotten Black Album and Lovesexy - so maybe things worked out for best
2:37 to 2:51 this is what pisses me off about Prince. Why does he keep using recordings of people WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION???? Had they not told him it was someone else's rap he would've had his ass sued!
By the way for those who were blessed to experience the LOVESEXY TOUR in the US it was the most beautiful and phenomenal Visual and Musical experience that has ever been expressed 🙏🙏😁😁😁
0:20 What's S3E6? A zip code? 1:08 Ok. But then if Prince was White he wouldn't be Prince. You can't know what you know till ya land on the wrong side of the fence. I can vouch for that! Does Rod Stewart imagine that he would be Rod Stewart if he was Black??? Come on! 1:29 There's ALWAYS someone who can absorb as fast as you put out. And you should NEVER slow down!
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I can understand WB telling Prince he was putting out too much music to a degree. As a teenage fan, at that time, it's was rough coming up with the money to buy the new album, the 7 inch and 12 inch singles for the b-side songs and extended a-sides, the protégé albums and singles... etc. I remember in 87, I made a deal with my friend Mark that I would buy the SotT album and the Prince singles and 12 inches and he bought Madhouse 16 and Sheila's 3rd album and their singles. Then we would share them and dub them on cassettes. Hahaha. Those were the days!
IMO , i think prince wanted to put all of that into one album as a collective whole . You wouldn't have to buy it separate.
They (WB) wanted him to compete with Michael and all these other artists, while prince was more concerned about getting his message / artistic endeavors to the people.
My best example is the crystal ball album , which was originally a 3 disc set that unfortunately got cut down to become sott, as warner bros was more focused on album sales than actual artistry. So if it wasn't for them fans would have had a 3 disc set in 1987 instead if 2 disc.
-*Prince also stated at one point in his career that he used to record songs / albums as long drawn out pieces but had to be taught to cut them down.
Class of 87 here! I def remember those days!
Artist's can't stop creating...and put out what they create...it's their livelihood...the Industry (Warner Brother's) is referencing their control of cash flow from this cash cow...to protect their INTEREST...not the consumer...lol
@@MayMay-lk4kz
YUPPERZ!!!!
Dude, my friends and I spent so much money on buying music by Prince associated acts especially in the 80's.
"It just comes through me." Spoken like a born artist. ❤️
or, spoken by a born artist. 💜
@@onesong2001 Ok, grammar shark. You got me.
I really wish he toured the US for the Sign O’ The Album. It would’ve been a bigger hit, in my opinion.
exactly it's prince at his best that concert film is so underrated some people have no idea how amazing those performances at the sign o the times tour was
@@michaelsevilla3697But it is not underrated. Prince himself failed this album. He focused on Europe and gave the US this film instead of a tour to support the album.
So the album only sold 1 million and only got 4 singles, 4 singles off a double album?
So no it was not underrated. People had plenty of time to “rate” this album and they chose not to. Remember it only sold 1 million.
Prince himself just released a new album one year after it, that killed any chance of more singles.
I saw the Sign Of The Times tour back in 1987 in Dortmund, Germany. It was amazing that I had seen him Live the first time back in 1986 in New York with the Parade Tour. To see him following year was awesome and out of the USA. It was a great show. Great year for Icons of the music industry. I heard Sign Of The Times wasn't toured in America. So I got an exclusive. Prince was awesome. He made the movie Sign O the Times. Nothing like being there Live.
Dam. You saw probably the most limited engagement shows.
@@Sinnik22 Yes I most likely did. I'm grateful. He was in a real good mood the evening we saw him my colleagues and I in Dortmund,Germany back in 87.
Thank you for making these !!! Always professionally made. I appreciate so much !!!
Glad you like them!
I loved having new Prince music every time I turned around. That's something to remember fondly these days when artists average one album per decade.
They only made 1 Prince and he was too much.
What a lie, it’s every 2-3 years. Something Prince should’ve done.
I loved all the new music but he really did over saturate the market.
You got a thumbs up BEFORE I clicked to play it. I know this one is gonna be GOOD...as your usual!
Thank you dude. We appreciate it.
I waited a minute before making a comment. The one thing I surely heard plainly stated by Rod Stewart as I recall was something like "IF Prince was a "black" man we'd be in trouble". Wow, what a comment. It appears that he had the entire music establishment shook & on edge because of the rollercoaster of success he was experiencing at that time. This better defines the alleged competition the media said was taking place between Prince & MJ at that time. They always hype stuff into existence or more than what it is (mole hills into mountains) just to run a psy-op on the fans which are nothing but consumers to them. Actually HOW MUCH or WHAT PERCENT of the revenues does the ARTIST get to keep? They are the ones out there giving their all (blood,sweat & tears) to keep their fans satisfied. I realize that Prince made some what looks like errors in his business dealings in respect to having great talent he had signed & produced yet just kept them in limbo & sitting on a shelf & not allowing them to tour & promoting them. I am referring to Jill Jones namely. Same mistake already made with firing Jam & Lewis & allowing Andre Cymone to exit stage left. He was so busy "acquiring" new people to work with that he just put others in the vault like he did his creations which he felt were not ready just yet. The Stewart statement let me see that although Prince had played up the "ambivalent race" card & his management team pushed that to promote an air of mystique the industry & other artists KNEW how they saw him...as a "black" man who was taking over & a serious threat to their hallowed "white" rock & roll genre. In other words Prince had them SHOOK! Maybe this is why he told WB upon signing him to their label to "NOT make me "black". We all know that music has no color & that sound is a frequency. Frequencies do have differing band widths that register to the human eye as "colors" in the visible spectrum. Honestly, the ONLY color that any of them was really interested in was GREEN...as in green DOLLARS. The other stuff was merely smoke & mirrors to achieve a desire outcome. That's how the industry game is played. Prince played 4D chess while others were playing checkers.
Excellent video. Had he toured for SOTT and came to the states and I still saw Lovesexy, I would've seen him on 4 tours in a row within 5 years. As it was I saw him 3 times over 4 years. In hindsight, I was just used to his constant output. He just didn't stop. I can't say that about any of my other favorites except Stevie in the 70s. 4 albums recorded in a year and a half. Including this movie, I DID see him 4 times in a row cuz this WAS after all a concert movie
WoW. Ever see him overseas?
Unfortunately no. I've only been to Paris 3 times and it was for music business. The tours I saw were Purple Rain in 85 at Nassau Coliseum, Parade in 86 at MSG (they were selling Parade T shirts and merch so despite what people say, it still counts as the tour 😉), Lovesexy in 88 at MSG and Musicology at the Philly Spectrum in '04. Didn't really have any interest in seeing him live during the 90s stuff
I saw Prince twice in concert, bought all his albums and yes, I owned a bootleg of The Black Album. Prince was a genius!
PRINCE is rolling his eyes in his grave🤣🤣🤣😍
Everybody who wanted one had a bootleg of The Black Album. It was the most bootlegged album in history.
As I look back on it, WB had a valid point. Prince was definitely over saturating the market with his material. You could not have convinced me of that at the time, because I couldn't get enough of Prince back then. But, the Purple Yoda was doing too much and not letting his albums flourish before he released another one....
U only live once. U gone FUNK up yo giftz/life, 4 dis lame azz Monopoly/Life game, these buzzardz, got us playin?
Datz y he wuz like - SCREW THEY GAME - man!
They cheatin anywayz. ( & DUH lame azzes, MADE DUH GAME!!!!! ) Ain't no fun, playin wit cheaterz!
Prince thought that his art was for the moment. Like if he created a concept in 1983 he couldn’t let it bake til 1985. I get it.
@@Sinnik22
I say.... If ur n2 1999 & PURPLE RAIN iz out, KEEP BUMPIN 1999!
Whutz DUH problem?!?
Finally someone else gets it! I was/am like you, I bought all the albums and 12” singles. I went to all the concerts.
Then I became a radio DJ and saw him from WB’s point of view.
One good thing personally for me though. My station got a Lovesexy CD that had the songs separately. If you remember Lovesexy normally had just one song, all the tracks ran together. The radio CD was rare and my station didn’t like the CD so I grabbed it for myself.
Thank you 🙏🏼 the truth
Thank U brother. Gonna enjoy/watch me this 2night. Again a deep bow 2 U sir.
💜🐾
cool 2 c the dutch footish. sott the movie is not that good 2 me, Prince is the best Live performer ever and then do a playback movie . .. 80's second half is the peak of it all. (but i told u this allready) (thx bro)
ROCK HARD IN A FUNKY PLACE IS.... UNSTOPPABLE
Prince and Michael put fear in every artist.
All phases these dudes perfected the craft.
A great big thank you for making these great videos.
Thanks for thinking they’re great. It really means a lot.
How do these videos keep getting better and better? This video is amazing. I remember going to see this in the theatre and being a little pissed that it wasn’t a live US tour. I was so greedy lol
You weren’t greedy. It was bad marketing/promotion on his part. If he “played the game” at some moments in his career, it would’ve given him the financial and artistic freedom for future projects that he wanted.
@@keeganhill6140
I LOVED SIGN O THE TIMEZ!!!! Saw it countless timez, @ da movie theater & I paid each time. Only did dat 1 otha time. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - STAR WARS.
YUPPERZ!!!! Prince REALly wuz a Purple Yoda, 2 me!
Sinnik22, I love every one of your videos. I'm exhausted just listening to what Prince could accomplish in one day, he seemed to be super-human. Watched this one twice!!!
I've waited for you to touch on this subject!🔥 Great video
It keeps getting better and better 💜☮️
thank you much
as always..thank you so much
as long as you still riding we are doing the lords work
0:11 Great! I was needin' a bit of groovy funk ta cheer me up!
You good?
@@Sinnik22 No Superbad.
I love Cat-scat and her Jacking. Without her energy and her choreographies, without the funky climate through Eric + Atlanta the success would not be so Big
Thank U S22 💜👌
I love what you're doing. I'm wondering why are we only getting remasters, and vinyls? Where is the rest of his music? We do want to hear & experience them too!!!
Those voices we all have in our heads, that say shit like "did I leave the oven on" "do I have enough money saved" "do I look fat in this" imagine those voices writing 'sign o the times' 'when 2 r in love' 'u got the look' etc ALL at the same time!!!
People like Prince only come around once in a lifetime
“Those kind of cars”
Another EPIC open. Chills.
You da best tho!
Starting to get into the good stuff now!!!
Yup. Hope you’re enjoying it.
Awesome!! Keep em coming!
Thank you!
Oh man, AMAZING work and video as always my friend!! I couldn't wait to watch this one since I already posted my experience with getting a bootleg Black Album cassette in the mail from a mysterious local DJ. But an extra "DAAYYUUUHM" for your creative work on that album cover montage @5:51!!!!🤯🤯🤯 Just INCREDIBLE work!! You have got to do a how-to film/video production series!! These are the best videos on youtube man!!
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Some of that music was for beyond his time aunt his time for those listening
Well done.. Top Notch Work as Always Sinnik 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Definitely appreciate the time and effort you put into every episode ✨✊🏽✨ Salute!
Once again thank you. As far as sign of the times. The heart scene was so sexy.💜 Now hearing cat say he was sliding and her hair was stuck. I have to laugh. Love me some prince.💜💜💜
Cat is a character
@@Sinnik22 I love her.❤️
I could listen to Cat's stories all day! I hope there will be a documentary made about her life. She's a phenomenal dancer! 😍
@@danavixen6274 ...and a phenomenal choreographies creator! 🕺💃👌
I love that Cat-I’m not going to say any names….cut to Jill Jones. This is the stuff! So many levels. Rod Stewart. Fire from the start!!! Thanks again!
Love it. Thank you!
Awesome!!!!
Thanks!
Thanks for this!
Glad you’re liking this.
Another incredible video. So much amazing content, thank uuu 👏🏼👏🏼
We appreciate every bit of encouragement
@@Sinnik22 ohhh, there's more than one of you?
February 1988, I'm in the wrecker stow looking at Prince records and dude sells me bootleg of the black album. I haven't even listened to your video yet, but you get a LIKE for that, b/c for 30 years people been telling me I'm crazy
I have my store bought black album copy too. Bout to post a picture. U tell me if it’s similar to yours.
When you think about what Marylou Badeaux who was working in Warner Bros. said that Prince wasn't so compatible with members of the company. He wasn't into convening with a lot of the staff members in the company. It wasn't his thing. So she believes a lot of people weren't into fighting for him and his wishes. Especially during the time he started wearing Slave on his cheek. She said a lot of them in the company was offended that he did that. She tried to explain to them why he was doing that. She said people couldn't absorb it as fast as you are putting it out. Looking back. She was right. When Sign O the Times came out. I was still listening to it waiting for the Bad Album to come out in 1987. So from March to August I was consumed with that Album. In between while living in Europe Terence Trent D'arby came out with his brilliant debut. But, Prince was already bored after touring with Sign O Times. By 1988 he had a complete new concept called Love Sexy. I was like WTF. But, he challenged his supporters to keep up. Believe me we tried. I'm still digesting the Emancipation Album. Some music on all his albums I still have to back too and listen. But, that is the fun part of being a Prince supporter.
I love this. It feels like a real time account while prince was shifting muses and inspirations.
This post is very informative, the transcription is great. I always found Christy Turlington 2 B the most beautiful woman in the world, she's ABSOLUTELY HIGH CLASSY just like Prince. So much great facts..
Thank U S22👍💜☸
Hey man or woman, whoever you are, keep doing this! Your docuseries is great! I appreciate the research and work that you invest to tell an accurate story.
Everytime we get a compliment somehow we’re energized
@@Sinnik22 Then here’s another one; I just discovered your channel and it’s AWESOME!
@@taffysaur and another. I love these videos! 💜💜💜
During his illustrious career he epitomized "I ain't talking fast. Your just listening slow."
Curse of his genius
Love Prince 💜💟💜💟💜💟💜💟💜
Mick and Rod was already in TROUBLE
They just didn’t know it
But Mick is still out there touring. The fans are still buying tickets. Mick found a way to ride the waves of a changing culture. Prince had to do the same.
@@nancypatricia511 that still don't make him better than Prince
@@airsign81
Gittin old, iz a beeyatch!!!
@@airsign81 Nobody said that Jesus Christ, Prince fans are childlike.
Over saturation within any sales market is a bad thing. That’s why with certain products they may wait to release an item months in advance even if it’s already created.
In regards to what rod Stewart said if Prince was white, we would all be in trouble. Even though he was black, they should have all been in trouble anyways after hearing SOTT and SOTT should have been the NUMBER 1 album of both 87/88 and I'm really hoping that the Super Deluxe Edition will win the Grammy for BEST historical album like it should have won over U2 Joshua tree 34 YEARS AGO. I posted raving about it on the Grammys blog.
Oddly enough I remember Prince’s SOTT concert film not getting the proper recognition even though it was critically acclaimed. U2’s Rattle and Hum comes out a few months later and it hits #1 which already added to my disdain for them when they beat out Prince for that Grammy
@@j_ocrates23
U2 wuz on point! Don't hate them, cause of da game. Bono, wuz probably just a better politician, than Prince. Prince done told u - I DON'T CARE 2 WIN AWARDZ. Da lil guy, had roomZ FULL of awardz, anyhowz. So...........
We need that Sign O The Times full concert video with all the songs
Dope!
Prince was too hard on himself. He was beyond great and that was not good enough for him.
“Great wasn’t good enough” helluva epitaph
@@Sinnik22 LOL
@@aavalestormiconicperformer
DAT PART, Iconic!
I wanted 2 SCHMACK REALity n2 him, @ sum pointz!
Hmmmmmmm
Dichotomy
During da 1st 5 yearz, they said he wuz a lil terror. An azzwhole. A narcissistic, pompous, beeyatch! Full of himself.
@ da end....... Itz like he 4got, or sumpon. I felt so sorry 4 him, @ certain pointz. He had it rite, those 1st 5 yearz!!!! PURE FUNky GENIUS
@@Einnor084 Facts.
Wish id experienced sot live, i just love Cats sincerity and man did i thrash this on DVD 😅🙏💜
Prince and Michael blew everybody off the charts including The Rolling Stones and they did not have to be White.
Micheal was corny prince had swag
@@reginaldwilliams6241
MJ, just wanted 2 appeal 2 da children. Datz all. His muzak, wuz on point, tho. Go back & listen. ( SPEED RACER & BADD aside. )
@@reginaldwilliams6241 MJ was corny?🤣 gangsters would go crazy for MJ. No gangster ever went crazy for Prince.
@@reginaldwilliams6241 Wrong.
@@mechajay3358 Micheal was corny....they didn't have to be white but they did have to act like females. Checkmate
That is hilarious that Rod Stewart said that. He was right though.
SOTT's best concert film of al time hands down,
at par with Purple Rain if you ask me. I never reay got into the Black Album but when hey did some tunes in the Lovesexy film.... it came to life and I understood that skinny dude with the high voice a little bit more better. Love the crowd doing the wave and the Madhouse banner. Great footage.
CAT'S FUNNY..."Prince just didn't like Nelson George"...Heard her say this on a Podcast also...
Cat is a scream 🙀
I found it strange that Jill Jones was not on the Sign O' The Times Tour. Just released her solo album so would have been an ideal time.
MJ, prince was sleeping with shelia on that tour and prince would of lost that if Jill was there. She would of been too tempting to him. He knew what he was doing, to get what he wanted. He could of called Jill at any time if it wasn't working out with shelia. But not the other way around. Prince always took sex on his tours, he didn't have time to go out looking for it. Really smart man early on to.
I guess you could say he was as driven by the sex of it as much as he was by the music. I realise no one is perfect, but no wonder Jill left in the end - bitter - and didn't speak for years. Ultimately Jill got over it and they made up, which is a good thing.
I didn't know Jill was a singer too.
@@rodb66 Yep. Did a very good solo self titled album in 1987. Didn't do well for all sorts of reasons, but WB and Tipper Gore were two of them. What was mentioned on this video didn't exactly help either.
Jill Jones and The Family has the distinction of having the most "Prince" album of all the people he's worked with. I wished that he would have kept those albums and released them himself.
I had no problem with the frequency of Prince releases except when the record labels held back his releases.
Then you’re the reason why it was his downfall
@@KKMDStyle Lol the excuse that “real fans listened” “people didn’t know music” no people are not about buy a album every damn year. Just because your precious prince didn’t get burnt out doesn’t mean others didn’t.
@@KKMDStyle For an example “ If I was your girlfriend” probably his best song but the sign o of the times concert version because he wanted to do Camille’s voice in the album version? Why??? Why?? His regular voice would’ve made that a hit but he tried to be smarter than he actually was. He tried to be smarter than he actually was plenty of times. Stop revising history, Prince was not relevant music wise anymore in the 90s or 2000s. He was relevant due to changing his name.
@@KKMDStyle Lol the “art”😂🤣 you’re not Prince stop it
@@KKMDStyle Did I ever say it did? That’s why people are realizing that Prince played himself 🤣 embarrassing
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that cat! thank you bruh
I understood then as well as now why WB was concerned about output. Especially coming off from the debacle of UTCM. With that being said, the worst thing that he didnt do was tour the states. If he had did that, it would gave SOTT much needed promotion. And possibly beating U2 at the Grammies. Anyhow, it's funny of the people who worked with him, take credit of what he did....ok LOL
"If Prince was white, we'd all be in trouble!" #hurtfulfacts
Don't get it talent is talent race don't matter
Rod Stewart 😁
It shouldn't but it does in terms of sales and distribution.
Netflix should hire you to make their Prince documentary
Shelia E wasn't too nice to cat she said this about Shelia in an interview
Kinda a little off topic but I think if Housequake was second single (at the time a lot of radio stations were already feat in heavy rotation) the album/ hype would’ve blown up and because of the way tour bookings are the decision to tour States had to be made right around time of second single. Housequake woulda made that tour happen - and it woulda been huge - U got the look comes next and rest is history. Downside is we would’ve never gotten Black Album and Lovesexy - so maybe things worked out for best
2:37 to 2:51 this is what pisses me off about Prince. Why does he keep using recordings of people WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION???? Had they not told him it was someone else's rap he would've had his ass sued!
@CJ Jr. journey? i know it's a joke but i don't get it
By the way for those who were blessed to experience the LOVESEXY TOUR in the US it was the most beautiful and phenomenal Visual and Musical experience that has ever been expressed 🙏🙏😁😁😁
Premiere Crew.
GC in the Heezy
💜💜💜💜💜
Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pay them extra for the after shows.
According to Morris Hayes he did and sometimes with a little bit extra.
He did.
Prince always asked permission to use other people’s material.
Nice way of saying he tried to steal stuff
i knew i liked rod stewart 4 a reason
he told the truth
I bet Prince's company and Barbara Walter's playing his music and her voice..For that I'm headed out✌
0:20 What's S3E6? A zip code? 1:08 Ok. But then if Prince was White he wouldn't be Prince. You can't know what you know till ya land on the wrong side of the fence. I can vouch for that! Does Rod Stewart imagine that he would be Rod Stewart if he was Black??? Come on! 1:29 There's ALWAYS someone who can absorb as fast as you put out. And you should NEVER slow down!