No, Not even Close...And How would You "Know??" Yes, He was a dynamic guitar slinger, But most of His Songwriting isn't great though 1999 was. Frankly, I'm weary of "fans"
Prince will always be held in the highest regard. But he is one of the greatest to ever play music. Even he would acknowledge and praise those who paved the way before him.
It would be Very easy to think that Prince was born with a guitar in his hands.. I Do Not understand how people, other musicians, etc. said that they didn't know he was that good on the guitar.. Where the hell were these people at from 1978 to 2016 ?? Did they have ears ?? WTF, guys and gals.. Prince played Many instruments Very Well, but what he could do with a guitar was Pure Magic !!
UNDERSTAND...AND I TOLD YOUNG MUSICIAN EVERYDAY..IF YOU PLAY YOUR INSTRUMENT EVERY DAY..U GOING TO BE GOOD..IT'S LIKE GOING TO A GYM...IF U WORK OUT IN A GYM..U BOUND TO SEE YOUR BODY CHANGE..MY STUDIO IS MY GYM.... I'M LOU FERRIGNO STATUS NOW,LOL
I mean to be fair a lot had to do with access. I didn’t get into prince until I got in college. I wasn’t born when Prince was at his commercial height. My parents weren’t prince fans and you couldn’t easily find old videos of his.
Those Parade shows were so tight. The Dirty Mind in NYC in 1982 and Parade in Detroit 1986 shows are my favorite shows Prince ever played. This footage you’ve found is gold. The late Parade tour footage and Cat on Star Search. Wow! This might be my favorite episode. Bravo!
I'm today years old when I found out that Raphael Saadiq played for Shelia E & a lil bit for Prince. WOW!! Also I loved that Wendy & Lisa dark long crinkly hair & glasses era ❤❤
I already knew Tony Toni Tone played with Prince. In their song Born Not To Know from the Who? album, they sing a line "Things are getting crazy, I ain't wearing paisley" was a reference to when they walked away from the Madhouse project.
Susanna Hoffs-who STILL looks youthful- definitely was the dark brunette type Prince was into during this era. Prince was a born multifaceted musician! 🎵 🎶
I saw a rare video of the two bands standing on stage. He smashed a guitar, and Rev stood there refusing to let the other (NPG) come on stage. A lot of emotions in that video !
The bit about leaving McDonald's applications in their luggage? Priceless. ...now just imagine working at McDonald's, and Prince walks in and asks if you have any applications?!
Prince had a lot of great talent around him musicians when can name a lot of them great artists like...Tony Toni Tone one of my favorite r&b groups late '80s and mid-90s
Thank U Sinnik for this new episode! I always learn new stuff about my all-time musical hero! Love it 💜 ... I just hope u have enough material for a Season 4, 5, 6, and many more! hehe ;-))
Prince did fire them through Sheila. Two different transactions. They were fired as Sheila’s tour support. The Madhouse thing was unrelated to the tour.
Like a musical magnet he attracted the very best and influence them to be even better... Amazing.. had no idea Toni Toni Toni had been so involved with Prince... very interesting and eye opening. Starting to wonder who Prince didn't work with.. ;)
@@marvinbennett8384 Never did.. but I will for sure. Got it on my list of things to whatch.. Just looked at it.. and it seem well done. Thanks for the recommendation.
Prince cleaned house! Even (a very simple bottom of the train thing) the fan club, which I was helping to develop, was done too. Around the SOT tour, our info was shipped to England. He went in a different direction across the board.
YEAH I TO CONTINUED WHERE PRINCE LEFT OFF ON THE "MADHOUSE" SITUATION...WE BOTH LOVE JAZZ AND WE BOTH LOVE MILE...PROBABLY NEXT YEAR I WORK ON A "MADHOUSE" OF COURSE ON MY VIBE OF JAZZ. TO BAD ERIC LEED TURN ME DOWN WITH THAT IDEA..HE MADE "MADHOUSE" POPPED WITH THAT SAX,LOL
People are making a connection between T!T!T! and the Madhouse project. From the information presented here, or from other places that I have found information on the subject either in reading or listening to interviews, I do not make that connection. Eric Leeds does not mention them Madhouse was created to display Eric's sax talent. Prince was going to use T!T!T! as part of Sheila's band and they declined because they wanted mo' money and artistic freedom. Correct me.
Your comment is confusing. A lot of members? Members of what? west and Lisa? Do you mean Wendy and Lisa? Were picked from the inside of what? Where does Mike Melvoin come into the picture?? I know that cell phones can be difficult to use but this makes little sense without guessing what you mean.
@Tony Thanks for the interpretation. Were you appointed? That was also my interpretation. But I wanted them to explain what they meant. But seeing as you got two thumbs up and what looks like a stamp of approval from Sinnik22, I will go with that.
Steve Polius, What constitutes "a lot of members?? There were/are only five members of The Revolution. And it is WENDY"S dad, Michael Melvoin, NOT Lisa's dad, Gary L. Coleman, who MIGHT have had some power to help Prince crossover, having been a one-time president of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. But there is no basis for believing that the choice of any of the members of The Revolution was to somehow get some kudos from someone who had any power to pull strings to help Prince cross over. That is insulting to Prince. Lisa Colman came in contact with Prince because a friend of hers, who was a secretary for Steve Fargnoli, Prince's manager, gave Lisa a heads-up when Steve had put the word out that Prince needed a girl keyboardist to replace Gayle. Prince had no idea who Lisa was, let alone her father. And Lisa didn't know who Prince was. Prince was about to send her back to California because he didn't think they could get along. And then he heard her play . . . . . It was because of her talent and the classical training that she brought that she was chosen . . . and that she was white . . . . for aesthetic purposes, of course. Wendy, a childhood friend of Lisa, had been traveling with The Revolution. When Prince became aware that Dez was unhappy, he was looking for a new guitarist and heard Wendy playing in her hotel room, not realizing that she even played guitar or, at least, had never heard her play before. How does all of that add up to Prince picking Lisa and Wendy because of who their dads were????? Where are they even in the picture??? From the information that has been presented here for the past two seasons of this series, there is no basis to draw that conclusion. Your comment, if I have indeed I interpreted it correctly, puts Prince in a place where he is some sort of inside trader and that he didn't believe in himself. That cheapens his talent and genius. Every decision that Prince made, good or bad, was because he believed in his talent. It also puts Lisa and Wendy in a place of having no talent, and are simply there because their daddies were big in the music business. How did you come to your conclusion from listening to these episodes???? 😂😂😂😂
@Tony Why would you answer my question that I directed to one person by responding to another, i.e. sinnik22?? You felt qualified to answer in someone else’s stead because you hold the same opinion. To Alexander Nevermind, you commented: "Also Wendy and Lisa has their daddy’s connections in the industry to help him crossover, etc.” (S3E1 comments section) Explain how that worked!!! How did “their daddies” accomplish that for Prince?? Prince pulled off some shady things, but that sure ain’t one of them. And you didn’t hear that here. The only way "their daddies" contributed to the cross-over of Prince was by passing on their genes!! Why are you, AGAIN, responding to my comment as though it is directed toward you? Why did you take everything that I was addressing to SOMEONE ELSE and convolute it into something that I did not even say? What business is it of yours to tell me how seriously I should take something that I decide to listen to? You freely flit around the comment sections and give your thoughts and opinions, some of which are very unsubstantiated. If we can’t know much about the decisions that Prince made, then how can you make the statement that Prince used Lisa and Wendy’s connection to their fathers to help Prince cross over? So if we can’t know, how can you make that statement as though you can know? But when they were doing "the white people count" before the concerts and watched the cross-over happen as the tour progressed, please tell me how "the daddies" were involved in making that happen? Oh, we can know by Prince's actions the decisions that he made. It was Prince that made that happen by composing music that appealed to the white population's taste: by composing music in the genres of pop, rock, and punk and melding them with funk!! By making the statement about Prince using "connections" to cross over, you strip Prince of the genius that he demonstrated in his quest to break out of the boxes that black artists had been forced into. You strip him of his heroism. Why are you here?
I saw this man 5 times, lovesexy (opening night Minneapolis) parade tour, 3121 residency etc. Personally lovesexy show was life changing, no one like Prince will ever happen again and there's oceans of talented musicians but.
PRINCE RIP WAS A DARKLIGHT REBELLING ANGRY PIPELINED FOCUSED...COMING INTO THE LIGHT....WHEN HE MET & PLAYED WITH LARRY GRAHAM - BASSIST & WHEN HE MET MACEO PARKER. HORN PLAYER THEN HE KNEW HE ARRIVED.. FOR SURE... WHY DO I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE EVERY MUSICIAN HE MET & PLAYED WITH WAS PRACTICE TILL HE MET THE MASTERS LARRY AND MACEO I'LL WAIT!!! TALK TO ME!!! jb.ok
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The GREATEST musician that ever walked the face of the planet.
Well he's one of them. They're a couple of more.
One of the greatest family...
No, Not even Close...And How would You "Know??" Yes, He was a dynamic guitar slinger, But most of His Songwriting isn't great though 1999 was. Frankly, I'm weary of "fans"
Prince will always be held in the highest regard. But he is one of the greatest to ever play music. Even he would acknowledge and praise those who paved the way before him.
Narrow-minded commentary for sure. 🙃
It would be Very easy to think that Prince was born with a guitar in his hands.. I Do Not understand how people, other musicians, etc. said that they didn't know he was that good on the guitar.. Where the hell were these people at from 1978 to 2016 ?? Did they have ears ?? WTF, guys and gals.. Prince played Many instruments Very Well, but what he could do with a guitar was Pure Magic !!
UNDERSTAND...AND I TOLD YOUNG MUSICIAN EVERYDAY..IF YOU PLAY YOUR INSTRUMENT EVERY DAY..U GOING TO BE GOOD..IT'S LIKE GOING TO A GYM...IF U WORK OUT IN A GYM..U BOUND TO SEE YOUR BODY CHANGE..MY STUDIO IS MY GYM.... I'M LOU FERRIGNO STATUS NOW,LOL
I mean to be fair a lot had to do with access. I didn’t get into prince until I got in college. I wasn’t born when Prince was at his commercial height. My parents weren’t prince fans and you couldn’t easily find old videos of his.
Well said
Those Parade shows were so tight. The Dirty Mind in NYC in 1982 and Parade in Detroit 1986 shows are my favorite shows Prince ever played. This footage you’ve found is gold. The late Parade tour footage and Cat on Star Search. Wow! This might be my favorite episode. Bravo!
Susanna gave homegirl a look when she said her and Prince shared a mic..😂
Feels like this one was made for me. Raphael Saadiq is one of my all time favorites.
I'm today years old when I found out that Raphael Saadiq played for Shelia E & a lil bit for Prince. WOW!!
Also I loved that Wendy & Lisa dark long crinkly hair & glasses era ❤❤
Raphael dated Sheila E sister
Raphael dated Sheila E sister
I already knew Tony Toni Tone played with Prince. In their song Born Not To Know from the Who? album, they sing a line "Things are getting crazy, I ain't wearing paisley" was a reference to when they walked away from the Madhouse project.
Yeah I remember hearing that
I like Tony Toni. Tone what happen to they just dropped out of sight
Oh wow, Mad House! I remember them, Great time to revisit that project.. Great work keeping the Prince community entertained!
Thanks, will do!
Madhouse was/is hella amazing! ❣️
Raphael Saadiq one of the best underrated songwriters guitarist/ bass player ever man him and his brother DaWayne Wiggins of Tony Toni Tone
Absolutely!!💥💥💖💖🙌🙌
no doubt
Raphael thinks A LOT of his musical precense. He should; but, it's rather inflated.
He kills it on Luke Cage. Another great one as usual and these comments add so much flavor!
I KNOW you didn't 🤣, Prince. That child was wild. He was something else, in every sense of the phrase.
Susanna Hoffs-who STILL looks youthful- definitely was the dark brunette type Prince was into during this era. Prince was a born multifaceted musician! 🎵 🎶
I saw a rare video of the two bands standing on stage. He smashed a guitar, and Rev stood there refusing to let the other (NPG) come on stage. A lot of emotions in that video !
The bit about leaving McDonald's applications in their luggage? Priceless.
...now just imagine working at McDonald's, and Prince walks in and asks if you have any applications?!
Cold blooded
Your dedication and personal care shows though and shines....... As always. Thank you so much.
So nice of you
Prince had a lot of great talent around him musicians when can name a lot of them great artists like...Tony Toni Tone one of my favorite r&b groups late '80s and mid-90s
Dude! Watching this right now! Got me feeling like it's Christmas up in here!
leave me a cookie next time
Prince's music will live on through the fans and world-wide airplay.❤️❤️❤️❤️
You’re not wrong
Great episode! Can't wait for the next one💜💜💜
Thank U Sinnik for this new episode! I always learn new stuff about my all-time musical hero! Love it 💜 ... I just hope u have enough material for a Season 4, 5, 6, and many more! hehe ;-))
I hope so too!
He fired Tony Toni Tone now I really want to hear this
Great stuff! Had never seen the Star Search footage of Cat. Nice find!
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow Prince surely do know how to find talented musicians
Long or short, I enjoy it all....
Thats something you won't hear often....
Imma leave that where you dropped it
@@Sinnik22 LOL!!!! :0
@@Sinnik22 I find the short ones disappointing.
Best episode .. hands down. Amazing content & editing
What in particular helped you make that decision?
I dig these videos Sinnik22! 🦇👍🎯
keep it coming...love the feedback
*this was sooooo GUUUUD & JUICY!!! thanx ever so!!!* #BlessUP 🎸💜👑
Glad you enjoyed it
Informative upload.
He could take any musical format and make u believe in the fact that he was genius extraordinaire🌟🌟👍👍❤️❤️
Power fantastic prince
I'm.noticing every episode is just as good as the other there's so much content from start 2 finish
Prince did NOT 🔥 Tony Toni Tone. They wouldn't sign under Prince's Paisley Park label and went on to find a better deal ( which They did ).
Prince did fire them through Sheila. Two different transactions. They were fired as Sheila’s tour support. The Madhouse thing was unrelated to the tour.
Once again, you have provided us with amazing footage along with accurate history of the GOAT!!!
thanks ..love when your stuff posts
Thanks for listening. SHARE
Another great one!❤️
Yay, thank you!
R.I.P. PRINCE.
As always, EXCELLENT doc!!!👍👍🎹🎶🎼
Thanks for listening
Like a musical magnet he attracted the very best and influence them to be even better... Amazing.. had no idea Toni Toni Toni had been so involved with Prince... very interesting and eye opening. Starting to wonder who Prince didn't work with.. ;)
No problem!
U never seen the documentary "all loyalty no royalty" ?
@@marvinbennett8384 Never did.. but I will for sure. Got it on my list of things to whatch.. Just looked at it.. and it seem well done. Thanks for the recommendation.
@@julienceaser yeah bruh that brother who sung "whatever u want" Dwayne? Was screwed up
@@marvinbennett8384 Wow I'll keep that in mind when I watch it .. thanks.
Sheila E had a good ear for musicians because Prince hired most of her band members.
PRINCE 🤴🏽IS THE MOZART OF OUR GENERATION AND TIME. SINNIK ✌🏿
Prince cleaned house! Even (a very simple bottom of the train thing) the fan club, which I was helping to develop, was done too. Around the SOT tour, our info was shipped to England. He went in a different direction across the board.
THE MISSING PUZZLE OF THE MUSICIAN WAS JAE LOGAN
YEAH I TO CONTINUED WHERE PRINCE LEFT OFF ON THE "MADHOUSE" SITUATION...WE BOTH LOVE JAZZ AND WE BOTH LOVE MILE...PROBABLY NEXT YEAR I WORK ON A "MADHOUSE" OF COURSE ON MY VIBE OF JAZZ. TO BAD ERIC LEED TURN ME DOWN WITH THAT IDEA..HE MADE "MADHOUSE" POPPED WITH THAT SAX,LOL
Loving ALL the info on Prince.
Thank You!
Our pleasure!
Nice.... 🙌💜 #prince #royalbadness
People are making a connection between T!T!T! and the Madhouse project. From the information presented here, or from other places that I have found information on the subject either in reading or listening to interviews, I do not make that connection. Eric Leeds does not mention them Madhouse was created to display Eric's sax talent. Prince was going to use T!T!T! as part of Sheila's band and they declined because they wanted mo' money and artistic freedom. Correct me.
Interesting, as always.
BUT IF COURSE P WAS GONE 💕 LOVE 3 T WE ALL FUNKY FROM THE BAY **** SONS OF FUNK
What people got to know is
A lot of members specially west an Lisa
Were picked from the inside
Notably Lisa’s dad 😂😂
explain
Your comment is confusing. A lot of members? Members of what? west and Lisa? Do you mean Wendy and Lisa? Were picked from the inside of what? Where does Mike Melvoin come into the picture?? I know that cell phones can be difficult to use but this makes little sense without guessing what you mean.
@Tony Thanks for the interpretation. Were you appointed? That was also my interpretation. But I wanted them to explain what they meant. But seeing as you got two thumbs up and what looks like a stamp of approval from Sinnik22, I will go with that.
Steve Polius, What constitutes "a lot of members?? There were/are only five members of The Revolution. And it is WENDY"S dad, Michael Melvoin, NOT Lisa's dad, Gary L. Coleman, who MIGHT have had some power to help Prince crossover, having been a one-time president of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. But there is no basis for believing that the choice of any of the members of The Revolution was to somehow get some kudos from someone who had any power to pull strings to help Prince cross over. That is insulting to Prince.
Lisa Colman came in contact with Prince because a friend of hers, who was a secretary for Steve Fargnoli, Prince's manager, gave Lisa a heads-up when Steve had put the word out that Prince needed a girl keyboardist to replace Gayle. Prince had no idea who Lisa was, let alone her father. And Lisa didn't know who Prince was. Prince was about to send her back to California because he didn't think they could get along. And then he heard her play . . . . . It was because of her talent and the classical training that she brought that she was chosen . . . and that she was white . . . . for aesthetic purposes, of course.
Wendy, a childhood friend of Lisa, had been traveling with The Revolution. When Prince became aware that Dez was unhappy, he was looking for a new guitarist and heard Wendy playing in her hotel room, not realizing that she even played guitar or, at least, had never heard her play before. How does all of that add up to Prince picking Lisa and Wendy because of who their dads were????? Where are they even in the picture??? From the information that has been presented here for the past two seasons of this series, there is no basis to draw that conclusion.
Your comment, if I have indeed I interpreted it correctly, puts Prince in a place where he is some sort of inside trader and that he didn't believe in himself. That cheapens his talent and genius. Every decision that Prince made, good or bad, was because he believed in his talent. It also puts Lisa and Wendy in a place of having no talent, and are simply there because their daddies were big in the music business. How did you come to your conclusion from listening to these episodes???? 😂😂😂😂
@Tony Why would you answer my question that I directed to one person by responding to another, i.e. sinnik22??
You felt qualified to answer in someone else’s stead because you hold the same opinion. To Alexander Nevermind, you commented: "Also Wendy and Lisa has their daddy’s connections in the industry to help him crossover, etc.” (S3E1 comments section) Explain how that worked!!! How did “their daddies” accomplish that for Prince?? Prince pulled off some shady things, but that sure ain’t one of them. And you didn’t hear that here. The only way "their daddies" contributed to the cross-over of Prince was by passing on their genes!!
Why are you, AGAIN, responding to my comment as though it is directed toward you?
Why did you take everything that I was addressing to SOMEONE ELSE and convolute it into something that I did not even say?
What business is it of yours to tell me how seriously I should take something that I decide to listen to? You freely flit around the comment sections and give your thoughts and opinions, some of which are very unsubstantiated.
If we can’t know much about the decisions that Prince made, then how can you make the statement that Prince used Lisa and Wendy’s connection to their fathers to help Prince cross over? So if we can’t know, how can you make that statement as though you can know?
But when they were doing "the white people count" before the concerts and watched the cross-over happen as the tour progressed, please tell me how "the daddies" were involved in making that happen?
Oh, we can know by Prince's actions the decisions that he made. It was Prince that made that happen by composing music that appealed to the white population's taste: by composing music in the genres of pop, rock, and punk and melding them with funk!!
By making the statement about Prince using "connections" to cross over, you strip Prince of the genius that he demonstrated in his quest to break out of the boxes that black artists had been forced into. You strip him of his heroism. Why are you here?
Clips of Saadiq on Questlove Supreme Podcast
I saw this man 5 times, lovesexy (opening night Minneapolis) parade tour, 3121 residency etc. Personally lovesexy show was life changing, no one like Prince will ever happen again and there's oceans of talented musicians but.
What happened to Eddie M?
Peanut head Raphael lol
💯💯💯💯
Cool
The truth
Smart decision sheila e fired them
How dare Raphael diss Wendy
12:42 did she say bout it? lol
You were lil thick there it looked good why did you lose It? Hope you weren't sick the lil swoleness looked GOOD
PRINCE RIP WAS A DARKLIGHT REBELLING ANGRY PIPELINED
FOCUSED...COMING INTO THE LIGHT....WHEN HE MET & PLAYED WITH LARRY GRAHAM - BASSIST &
WHEN HE MET MACEO PARKER. HORN PLAYER THEN HE KNEW HE
ARRIVED.. FOR SURE...
WHY DO I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE EVERY
MUSICIAN HE MET & PLAYED WITH
WAS PRACTICE TILL HE MET THE
MASTERS LARRY AND MACEO
I'LL WAIT!!! TALK TO ME!!!
jb.ok
💜🐾
bro, did u know . . Levi posted this episode on his fb-page . . ?
BRUH! Nisi just DM’d me the screenshot cuz I’m not on fb. I saw you represent. U a real1. Thanks.
I wonder if Lisa was jealous that's why she didn't join in when he performed on stage with The Bangles?
I suspect it was more like you sacked me so nah
@Tony
She had a girlfriend ... Wendy.. wondering if P tapp that to
Most boring act around Prince ever.
@Tony the rappers that were around Prince npg era
The Bangles were boring as hell…